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19:26:19  <caitp>so v8 has some tests that say `class C { x = new.target }` is legal, and asserts that it evaluates to class C (in the case of `new C`) --- but the spec says the initializer is a function, is called via Call() (in DefineField), so shouldn't `new.target` always evaluate to undefined in a class field initializer?
19:28:58  <caitp>you know what, ignore all that, the test asserts that it evaluates to undefined
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20:12:10  <devsnek>seems like an awkward interaction
20:12:32  <devsnek>isn't it being a function more of an implementation detail
20:12:57  <devsnek>linclark: what's that framework you use for your slides?
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20:33:46  <Bakkot>devsnek: not exactly; we decided the easiest way to think about the scope the initializers run in was that the thing they are most similar to is a method
20:33:51  <Bakkot>e.g. `this` is the instance
20:34:06  <Bakkot>(there's no good interpretation for `arguments` so it is syntactically prohibited)
20:34:39  <Bakkot>but new.target and super, as the other remaining function-body things, work like they do in methods
20:37:29  <devsnek>it surprised me at least that new.target is undefined
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23:43:12  <Bakkot>TabAtkins (or anyone else): do you know the right place to ask questions about the CSS spec?
23:43:56  <TabAtkins>W3C irc server, #css room. Or just open an issue on our GitHub
23:43:57  <ljharb>so you're saying that currently, visibility: hidden?
23:44:08  <Bakkot>thanks!
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23:48:35  <Bakkot>join message fo irc.w3c.org says "This server is generally restricted to use by W3C staff and collaborators". Guess I'll go with github.
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23:59:28  <Bakkot>... lol, definitely meant CSP, not CSS
23:59:32  <Bakkot>too many acronyms