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20:12:29  <bterlson>jackhorton: welcome :-D
20:24:43  <jackhorton>Thanks! Brian had told me to come here for a question related to hourCycle in the newest Intl spec. I am working on implementing this right now but I am confused as to how the resolution of -u-hc and options.hour12 is supposed to work -- to me, it looks like it will force countries that prefer 0-indexed 24 hour time and 1-indexed 12 hour time (en-US and en-GB come to mind) to make the wrong decision about which
20:24:43  <jackhorton>default hourCycle to use?
20:25:08  <bterlson>caridy: ^
20:25:15  <bterlson>zbraniecki: ^ :-P
20:26:38  <caridy>there is an open issue for that
20:26:42  <caridy>with some debate from this morning
20:26:58  <jackhorton>ah, how convenient. Sorry for not checking there first!
20:27:26  <caridy>https://github.com/tc39/ecma402/pull/204
20:31:05  <jackhorton>For what its worth, my initial reading of that issue is slightly different than what I was looking into (though I did also notice that the returned locale string and resolvedOptions().hourCycle wouldn't align in some cases).
20:33:19  <jackhorton>in a locale like en-US that, to my knowledge and from what I can tell from playing around with ICU, prefers h12 for 12-hour time (and prefers it above all others) and h23 for 24-hour time, I think the hourCycle resolution will say that new Intl.DateTimeFormat("en-US", { hour: "numeric", hour12: false }).resolvedOptions().hourCycle === "h24"
20:36:05  <caridy>IIRC, the idea was always that if they are providing the hour12 option (true or false), we do the fallback mechanism as before.
20:37:05  <caridy>but I think the point of contention is not that, but the shape of the resolved options
20:44:07  <jackhorton>Is the fallback mechanism as before ~= how hour12 and hourNo0 were resolved in Intl 4.0?
20:44:51  <caridy>yes, I think so!
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