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02:16:54  <Kovensky>Domenic: (having only read the slides linked in the agenda) "import ... from 'foo' with crossorigin: 'anonymous', manifest: 'manifest.list'"; manifest.list has integrity hashes for each resource?
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02:33:05  <Kovensky>that way only the high volatility data comes out-of-band
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13:11:02  <annevk>Haha, I like the fail-safes in https://github.com/domenic/proposal-import-meta
13:11:23  <annevk>If this doesn't happen quickly, we can always do it worse even quicker
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14:45:29  <Domenic>So to disallow import.meta in scripts, I'm thinking some kind of early error? Not e.g. parametrizing the grammar. bterlson?
14:47:35  <Domenic>Not really sure what prose to use for the early error though, i.e. not sure if it's allowed to disallow based on such non-local information as "in a module"
14:47:47  <bterlson>Domenic: you can do it
14:48:03  <bterlson>static semantics for `import.meta`: it is a syntax error if the current goal symbol is module
14:48:37  <Domenic>ah perfect
14:49:21  <bterlson>I think you might have to say `goal symbol of the lexical grammar`
14:49:27  <bterlson>err, syntactic grammar
14:49:39  <bterlson>although spec does not always say this
14:51:37  <Domenic>(This part of the presentation reminds me of what Claude did with the proxy invariants)
14:53:41  <Domenic>Elsewhere I found "When Module is the syntactic goal symbol"; seems good.
14:53:55  <bterlson>Domenic: great
14:54:03  <bterlson>thanks for re-using existing conventions
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15:13:03  <Domenic>Halfway done... https://domenic.github.io/proposal-import-meta/
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16:05:20  <Domenic>Can we not loop over Lists with a "for each" in the spec??
16:05:34  <Domenic>Nah, we can
16:05:41  <Domenic>Map just doesn't
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16:51:42  <Domenic>Tadaaaaaaa https://domenic.github.io/proposal-import-meta/
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17:01:40  <bterlson>Domenic: For each Record {[[Key]], [[Value]]} p that is an element of importMetaValues
17:01:44  <bterlson>the type annotation there is strange I think
17:01:49  <Domenic>Precedent exists
17:01:58  <Domenic>bterlson: https://tc39.github.io/ecma262/#sec-map.prototype.clear
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17:02:33  <bterlson>*shrug*
17:07:34  <annevk>Why express indifference when proven wrong? I see people do that and I never understand it
17:07:50  <annevk>If anything being proven wrong seems like a reason to do something
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17:40:02  <jmdyck>They're both correct: it's strange, but precedent exists. There are lots of strange things in the spec.
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17:52:59  <bterlson>annevk: yeah I don't think I was wrong
17:53:17  <bterlson>in the presence of precedence I don't care which convention he uses
17:53:23  <bterlson>hence: *shrug*
17:54:08  <annevk>You don't want to normalize them at that point?
17:54:20  <bterlson>I would like to
17:54:39  <bterlson>it requires careful thought that doesn't need to be done at this time for domenic's proposal
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18:29:03  <Domenic>Bonus https://github.com/domenic/proposal-import-meta/blob/master/HTML%20Integration.md
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18:51:42  <xjamundx>I think the room itself is muted n the hangouts.
18:57:24  <xjamundx>fixed!
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19:52:14  <Havvy><bstrie> does ecma make specs public domain?
19:53:20  <rwaldron>Havvy can you be more specific, re: "public domain"?
19:54:01  <rwaldron>All of the specs have a copyright
19:54:40  <rwaldron>One couldn't take an Ecma spec and mass produce it for sale
19:55:20  <Havvy>So what are their licenses?
19:55:58  <rwaldron>https://www.ecma-international.org/ecma-262/7.0/index.html#sec-copyright-and-software-license
19:56:32  <Havvy>Thanks.
19:57:02  <bterlson>Havvy: definitely no
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20:41:05  <rwaldron>aklein Domenic is Sam Goto on irc? (possibly a non-obvious user name?)
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20:43:48  <aklein>rwaldron: I don't think so
20:43:59  <rwaldron>lol, was that him ^^
20:44:21  <aklein>oh,um...maybe? :)
20:44:26  <rwaldron>haha
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20:45:50  <rwaldron>sgoto hello!
20:46:06  <sgoto>hey, there :) now it works :)
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