01:49:35  <jfhbrook>oh, substack, so to answer your original question, someone did in fact try to make a better version of this *kind* of--this data/analytics company wrote their own package manager and environments management system, and it's ultra janky but the ergonomics are a lot better for people that want to use python for practical local work
01:50:20  <jfhbrook>they couldn't like, replace setup.py and packaging as a publisher, but they could redo the user-side half of the equation