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00:59:23  <ogd>we should make a node module that works with this https://github.com/chrisballinger/BLEMeshChat
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01:11:08  <ogd>found via https://ianix.com/pub/ed25519-deployment.html
01:11:13  <ogd>some good stuff in there
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20:49:59  <terinjokes>this predates me knowing you all (by just a little bit)
20:50:15  <terinjokes>mmmify, that is
20:50:38  <substack>that was me just making a rant
20:50:45  <substack>modules are so complicated now >_<
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20:53:29  <terinjokes>substack: indeed. i had to explain to someone recently why modules aren't what mmmify recommends
20:53:38  <terinjokes>and even then I still didn't believe my answers :/
20:56:34  <substack>well, the modules they have used do work that way because they compile down to something like commonjs
20:56:59  <substack>a full polyfill for es6 module bindings would be extremely complicated if you can even build that at all
20:57:10  <substack>probably would require a source transform
20:57:28  <terinjokes>everyone's doing source transforms, iirc
20:57:59  <terinjokes>but I meant the way the import and export works
20:58:00  <substack>incomplete ones though
20:58:23  <substack>because you'd have to use proxies to encapsulate the spooky action at a distance of es6 module bindings
20:58:37  <substack>which would make modules slow and they wouldn't work on older engines
20:58:41  <terinjokes>why something like `const {foo, bar} = import foobarer` wasn't picked instead
20:59:18  <terinjokes>and why they have to do `import { * as foobar } from foobarer` to get all the exports
21:04:52  <substack>there were reasons. I don't think they were good reasons but standards folk wrote aplenty about it
21:05:49  <substack>they pretty much do whatever they want and use the standards process itself to shield whatever they decide
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