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19:03:45  <noffle>any solar panel recommendations for charging a lenovo laptop?
19:07:18  <substack>how durable do you need the panels to be?
19:10:09  <noffle>substack: they'd probably need to be able to survive being in a backpack
19:11:55  <substack>I think most of the backpack would be full of panels to power a laptop
19:12:10  <substack>running is one thing but charging is another matter
19:12:23  <ogd>for usb-c http://www.quickertek.com/products/cjuicz.html
19:13:44  <substack>32 watts isn't much
19:14:01  <substack>I would think you'd need at least 60 watts, probably more than that
19:25:03  <substack>also, the ratings are the maximum you'll get off a panel under ideal conditions
19:29:05  <noffle>seems like I might have a better time using a raspberry pi workstation instead of a laptop
19:51:53  <gildean>substack: hmm? running has a hard limit to power whereas charging only requires enough voltage
19:52:57  <gildean>32W would just charge at half speed vs. 65W if the voltage is the same
19:53:43  <substack>but it seems as though you'd want to use your computer and charge at the same time
19:53:51  <substack>since there are only about 5 or 6 hours of sunlight on a good day
19:54:10  <gildean>also the power supplies that laptops have must run and charge at the same time so they have to be quite a bit more powerful than what only charging requires
19:54:36  <gildean>substack: or maybe you only need the laptop at night? who knows
19:55:40  <substack>those are questions for noffle
19:56:45  <gildean>my thinkpad has a 120W power supply tho'
19:56:59  <gildean>more power === more power
20:46:11  <noffle>it might work: daytime physical hacking and exploration, then nighttime hacking under the stars
20:46:33  <noffle>I'm still figuring out what usage would look like
20:46:56  <noffle>exploring off-grid alternatives
20:48:55  <substack>bugs flock to bright screens in the dark
20:54:02  <substack>there are quite a few forks in the db
20:54:09  <substack>wrong channel
20:57:40  <noffle>ha hadn't thought of that
20:57:50  <noffle>cocoon myself in a hacker bugnet
20:59:07  <substack>I've been hacking outside every night for the past few weeks
20:59:12  <substack>was also a big issue in guyana
20:59:25  <substack>you can hack outside, but the bugs are annoying
20:59:43  <substack>but I should have my hmd later today, which solves that particular issue
22:20:01  <mappum>substack: what kind of HMD?
22:20:37  <substack>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AXVWNGA/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=38MKCGIYNUKKC&coliid=I3CBKE0XSRHYGQ
22:22:10  <mappum>interesting, is that going to be ok to code on?
22:26:00  <substack>not sure yet, will know later today when I get the hdmi cable
23:06:32  <mikolalysenko>the goddamn future is going to be way more cyberpunk than even the most cynical satirists of the last generation imagined
23:08:14  <substack>techno nomads wandering around a neoliberal rentier economy with a corrupt, militarized police force
23:08:17  <substack>yep
23:13:25  <mikolalysenko>how it all ends up is anyone's guess. what is post-cyberpunk?
23:13:42  <mikolalysenko>probably won't live to see it, so doesn't matter
23:16:55  <substack>I don't know about that, it's very unstable
23:22:13  <mikolalysenko>maybe AI's replace us all. wouldn't that be a great fucking joke if humanity's last cultural movement was something as crass as cyberpunk
23:22:27  <substack>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-3WcrQy8K4
23:23:16  <jfhbrook>my future employee is doing a background check on me
23:23:26  <jfhbrook>which includes me telling the background check company what jobs I did in the past
23:23:37  <substack>...which is their job
23:23:44  <jfhbrook>right?
23:23:54  <jfhbrook>I don't think this is particularly *skeevy* just *annoying*
23:24:05  <jfhbrook>and they can wait until thursday or maybe next week
23:24:11  <jfhbrook>cause I'm way too cranky to look all that shit up
23:24:48  <mikolalysenko>it is uncomfortable employers are often way too interested in your personal life
23:24:59  <jfhbrook>I mean
23:25:07  <jfhbrook>I honestly don't *know* my employment history that well
23:25:09  <jfhbrook>I move around a lot
23:25:10  <substack>they want to make sure you won't unionize the workforce
23:25:16  <mikolalysenko>like stay out of my bubble creepy tech co., this is my personal space
23:25:17  <jfhbrook>I don't feel the need to keep in contact with prior employers
23:25:21  <mikolalysenko>hahaha
23:25:31  <jfhbrook>I just write it in my resume and move on with my life
23:26:19  <substack>for an industry that "can't find enough qualified workers" they are picky as fuck
23:26:25  <substack>and have no interest in on the job training
23:26:33  <jfhbrook>well
23:26:40  <jfhbrook>mostly true, except
23:26:50  <mikolalysenko>because it is all mercenary. do you have any loyalty to one of these awful institutions?
23:26:51  <jfhbrook>industry is willing to hire code boot camp people
23:27:15  <mikolalysenko>honestly boot camp people can sling rails shit as well as the best
23:27:26  <mikolalysenko>there's nothing to differentiate yourself with that work
23:27:26  <jfhbrook>that's the point, they know enough to be useful but not good
23:27:31  <jfhbrook>and you can *train* them to be good
23:27:33  <mikolalysenko>it is assembly line bullshit
23:27:42  <substack>rails has made huge strides in deskilling tech labor
23:27:44  <substack>yes indeed
23:27:52  <jfhbrook>also added bonus: code camp candidates appear more diverse than CS graduates
23:27:59  <jfhbrook>that could just be a new york thing though
23:28:38  <substack>people go into ridiculous amounts of debt to enroll in those code camps
23:28:53  <jfhbrook>which is probably part of why they all seem to give a shit
23:29:15  <mikolalysenko>boot camp people got nothing to lose
23:29:17  <mikolalysenko>they're all in
23:29:24  <mikolalysenko>and very exploitable labor
23:29:44  <substack>they've got to pay down that debt and probably other debts, they are not going to rock the boat
23:29:57  <mikolalysenko>and honestly, for most startups they don't need fancy high powered 10x or whatever programmers
23:30:28  <mikolalysenko>they just need grunts who will keep their heads down and grind out shitty code to keep up with whatever hallucinations their management/vcs are imagining
23:30:36  <jfhbrook>I mean, 10x is a load anyway, but yeah definitely, you can do a lot with a bunch of ultra-jr devs and a few senior devs to do code review and mentorship
23:30:38  <mikolalysenko>actings as a kind of human compiler
23:30:50  <jfhbrook>of course, I want to be that mentor
23:30:59  <jfhbrook>I want to take bootcamp grads and make them good coders
23:31:03  <mikolalysenko>right, I was using 10x metaphorically
23:31:22  <mikolalysenko>the reality though is that most startups don't need senior developers
23:31:33  <mikolalysenko>because they are just implementing boring business logic
23:31:45  <mikolalysenko>all the hard stuff is done in postgres
23:31:46  <substack>and yet, look at this thread https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12202865
23:31:51  <substack>almost all of them want senior people
23:31:56  <mikolalysenko>stupid
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23:32:04  <mikolalysenko>they don't need it and can't afford it
23:32:17  <substack>but they're not ordinary businesses
23:32:28  <substack>their valuation depends on the people working for them
23:32:32  <substack>they are literally selling humans
23:32:41  <jfhbrook>to me, senior just means "has been down a trail or two" at this point
23:32:49  <jfhbrook>like I'm certainly no algorithmic wizard
23:33:02  <jfhbrook>don't hire me to do mission critical hard math that needs to have a low runtime complexity
23:33:05  <jfhbrook>I am not that person
23:33:12  <mikolalysenko>I mean, I can do that shit
23:33:18  <mikolalysenko>but most start ups don't need it
23:33:19  <jfhbrook>but I can sure whip up a crud app and wire shit up to dbs and queues and shit
23:34:00  <mikolalysenko>they just need some one who can correctly translate human concepts into code
23:34:02  <jfhbrook>oh also it's official now
23:34:08  <jfhbrook>my new job title is officially "Senior Engineer"
23:34:16  <mikolalysenko>congratulations!
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23:34:29  <jfhbrook>I mean, it's hilariously meaningless but now I can say it with almost a straight face
23:34:46  <jfhbrook>rather than "I guess you could say I'm kinda senior" I can say "my employer thinks I'm a senior dev"
23:34:49  <substack>seƱor engineer
23:34:55  <jfhbrook>:D
23:35:40  <mikolalysenko>if we are in a bubble, it is a bubble in engineering salaries
23:36:02  <mikolalysenko>people will eventually figure out that most of the stuff that needs doing doesn't require really advanced skills
23:36:39  <jfhbrook>oh yeah, I got a raise on what was already an obscene salary
23:36:50  <substack>paulg has a terrible essay where he argues that overqualified people should fill relatively menial technology jobs
23:36:59  <mikolalysenko>what bullshit
23:37:12  <mikolalysenko>it is just a stop gap until AI replaces all that stuff
23:37:20  <mikolalysenko>or maybe not whatever
23:37:31  <mikolalysenko>it just has to get good enough, then there is no more work there
23:37:39  <jfhbrook>tbh I'll be okay with it if suddenly tech salaries aren't obscene anymore but merely comfortable
23:37:50  <jfhbrook>it'll suck having to leave this expensive-ass city but
23:37:54  <mikolalysenko>what if they get "uncomfortable"?
23:38:15  <mikolalysenko>what if you can't pay rent and have to become a hobo?
23:38:25  <substack>you're completely subject to the whims of financial capital pumping up real estate bubbles
23:38:45  <jfhbrook>well keep in mind that when I say "comfortable" I mean "can move back home and pay rent and eat ramen" or something
23:38:54  <jfhbrook>I won't be supporting anyone else so that helps
23:39:01  <jfhbrook>but like, I have backup plans
23:39:09  <jfhbrook>I can, for instance, start trying to grow and sell weed
23:39:19  <jfhbrook>or, stop smoking weed and try working for my parents
23:39:25  <jfhbrook>maybe get into construction management
23:39:50  <mikolalysenko>just watch automation take that job away next
23:39:56  <jfhbrook>I have an engineering degree so that helps
23:40:19  <jfhbrook>I'm not counting on the "literally everyone is fucked" scenario here, in case that wasn't clear---if everyone's fucked, everyone's fucked
23:40:38  <jfhbrook>if some tech bubble crashes, that sucks for overpaid startup tech jobs but that doesn't mean the rest of the economy also bottomed out
23:40:51  <jfhbrook>also, my family has extensive experience farming
23:41:00  <substack>in alaska though?
23:41:06  <substack>short growing season
23:41:13  <jfhbrook>yeah substack lots and lots of potatoes
23:41:29  <jfhbrook>you can pickle summer squash to make it keep long periods
23:41:37  <jfhbrook>you can can damned near anything
23:41:48  <jfhbrook>and animals live through the winter
23:41:59  <mikolalysenko>some little house on the prairie shit
23:42:21  <mikolalysenko>but who knows how it all shakes out
23:42:29  <jfhbrook>I mean, more like what you see in those shitty alaska reality shows but yeah
23:43:01  <jfhbrook>speaking of
23:43:12  <jfhbrook>substack: I ever tell you about Alaska Railroad Fans?
23:43:21  <jfhbrook>substack: and about all the fucking loonies that watch Railroad Alaska?
23:43:37  <substack>I haven't heard of this.
23:43:51  <jfhbrook>so back in college a buddy of mine made a facebook group called "Alaska Railroad Fans."
23:43:54  <jfhbrook>like with the period
23:44:02  <jfhbrook>"Take pictures of your train ride!" was in the description
23:44:06  <jfhbrook>there were 12 of us, no big deal
23:44:16  <substack>I took the train once, it took forever
23:44:17  <jfhbrook>then alaska reality tv happens, namely a show called "Railroad Alaska"
23:44:28  <jfhbrook>now it's at 1600 people and still growing
23:44:31  <jfhbrook>but here's the thing
23:44:52  <jfhbrook>think about the kind of people that would watch Alaska reality shows, and then follow a group that's only about the show by association AND has a funky title
23:44:53  <substack>it was mostly europeans on the train
23:45:02  <jfhbrook>it's a very weird slice of the world
23:45:22  <jfhbrook>some of them are cool, some alaskans, some photographers, some model railroad and actual railroad enthusiasts
23:45:26  <jfhbrook>those people are great
23:45:42  <jfhbrook>then there's random southerners with bad taste in tv, and those fall into a few categories
23:46:05  <jfhbrook>some of them only play bad facebook games and it's like ok you also have bad taste in software
23:46:22  <jfhbrook>some of them just share pictures of their grandkids, maybe posts about food and nice places to visit, and they're nice
23:46:26  <jfhbrook>but SOME of them
23:46:27  <jfhbrook>hooooo boy
23:46:30  <jfhbrook>I saw this dude the other day
23:46:43  <jfhbrook>I'm totally paraphrasing here but some of the stuff on his page
23:47:02  <jfhbrook>stuff like, "If you don't think #bluelivesmatter unfriend me right now because "
23:47:34  <jfhbrook>and "Liberals will always be wrong and liberalism is incurable, so let's start armed insurrection and put all the LIEberals against the wall"
23:48:01  <jfhbrook>some other people sharing racist obama memes
23:48:08  <jfhbrook>like the monkey kind
23:48:17  <jfhbrook>oh god what else have I seen
23:48:28  <jfhbrook>posts talking about rounding up and shooting muslims
23:48:37  <jfhbrook>just, like, all the people that are avid trump supporters
23:49:00  <jfhbrook>I've really really had to take some stances on how I feel about group moderation because of this
23:49:31  <mikolalysenko>those people are atavistic cave men, relics from a forgotten era
23:49:33  <jfhbrook>some groups it's nbd because you're just looking for spammers, or it's a group where you have to deal with people fighting or getting upset at each other for some high-drama reason
23:49:41  <jfhbrook>but then there's
23:49:45  <jfhbrook>shit I'm getting alerted
23:49:53  <mikolalysenko>you can treasure their posts as some kind of horrifying time capsule
23:50:16  <mikolalysenko>like you open it, and *tada* there's some fucking fossilized dog shit in there
23:50:23  <jfhbrook>okay it's a bs alert afaict
23:50:51  <mikolalysenko>alerted, drunk whatever
23:51:17  <mikolalysenko>should probably stop posting now, I'm too fucking drunk
23:51:54  <jfhbrook>anyways mikolalysenko it's like, a smaller version of moldbug at lambdaconf
23:51:59  <jfhbrook>I've had to make that decision
23:52:03  <jfhbrook>for multiple people
23:52:12  <jfhbrook>and I won't lie, I made a few mistakes and I still do
23:52:34  <mikolalysenko>there is a zen take on this
23:52:42  <jfhbrook>I like really have to make sure I'm not bouncing people for being conservative, y'know? which means I have to accept some things I find offensive
23:52:49  <mikolalysenko>which is you never really know what is a mistake or not
23:52:57  <jfhbrook>and by offensive I mean like, supporting prayer in schools or saying that global warming is a hoax
23:53:30  <mikolalysenko>sometimes these things are too goddamn high order to actually figure out, so you just do it and see what happens