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15:53:20  <ogd>feross: nice hack haha feross: nice hack haha "If the user has consented to media access, this should also allow WebRTC to gather all possible candidates and determine the absolute best route for media traffic."
15:53:48  <feross>ogd: yeah haha
15:53:48  <ogd>feross: but means we need to request audio/video in order to get the best chance for data channels?
15:54:13  <feross>ogd: i mean technically, you'll get more possible routes if you request video/audio, but i think it's fine
15:54:25  <feross>ogd: see "Mode 2" which is what data channels will get with no video/audio
15:54:32  <ogd>ah ok
15:54:52  <feross>they'll get the user's public interface (or VPN ip, if they're using a VPN) and their local address (i.e. 192.168.x.x. or 10.x.x.x)
15:55:13  <feross>that means the file transfer over local network use case is still really fast
15:55:34  <ogd>ah cool
15:55:42  <feross>ogd: all this prevents is the user's real IP address from being revealed if they're using a VPN
15:55:57  <feross>ogd: that will only get revealed if they allow audio/video, i guess?
15:56:55  <feross>(we're talking about https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-shieh-rtcweb-ip-handling-00 in case anyone is wondering)
15:57:09  <feross>(since i posted this in #webtorrent, but ogd replied here :))
15:57:21  <ogd>oh oops
16:00:41  <ogd>feross: alright finished reading it, its actually not as bad as i thought it would be
16:01:13  <feross>ogd: yeah, totally reasonable i think
16:01:24  <feross>honestly, even Mode 1 for video/audio isn't necessary IMO
16:01:58  <feross>but i guess it only applied if the user's VPN/proxy is set up in a non-private mode anyway (i.e. it's allow some traffic to talk directly to the public internet)
16:02:03  <feross>*applies
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18:02:28  <yangwao>I might join, it's always good to bring with you some vpn router as well :)
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