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08:26:02  <ogd>wa7son: https://gist.github.com/SlexAxton/4989674
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20:17:29  <ogd>freeman-lab: substack: feross: feel free to come hack at our place in oakland
20:17:49  <mikolalysenko>ogd: are you in oakland now?
20:17:56  <ogd>mikolalysenko: just this week
20:18:00  <mikolalysenko>ah damn
20:18:06  <mikolalysenko>I'm going to be moving there next month
20:18:08  <ogd>mikolalysenko: yea sorry. but i try to visit often
20:18:09  <ogd>mikolalysenko: nice
20:18:33  <ogd>mikolalysenko: you find a place to live?
20:18:37  <mikolalysenko>yeah
20:18:51  <mikolalysenko>I was out there last week and got a place, now I am back in madison packing things into boxes
20:19:05  <mikolalysenko>rent is pretty nuts
20:19:08  <ogd>mikolalysenko: nice congrats
20:19:35  <ogd>mikolalysenko: haha yea. in 2010 when i moved here it was 2-3x as expensive as portland. and that was before the current rent hike began
20:19:47  <mikolalysenko>whoa, how cheap is portland?
20:20:27  <ogd>mikolalysenko: well at the time it was cheaper but rent has gone way up there now too
20:20:33  <mikolalysenko>in madison I am paying 1300/month, but it is for a really nice place downtown
20:20:39  <mikolalysenko>but you can get way cheaper stuff if you don't have pets
20:20:41  <ogd>mikolalysenko: so now its probably only 50% cheaper than oakland
20:21:27  <mikolalysenko>sf is even worse though
20:22:24  <mikolalysenko>cheapest place I saw in SF was some tiny loft apartment in the tenderloin for $2800/month, with deranged hobos shouting and defecating on the doorstep
20:22:29  <ogd>jesus
20:22:59  <mikolalysenko>no way my dog could deal with that
20:23:35  <mikolalysenko>there are probably some cheaper units that don't allow pets
20:24:12  <ogd>mikolalysenko: did you get a job out here too?
20:24:18  <mikolalysenko>yeah
20:24:33  <mikolalysenko>still not sure if it was the right thing to do, but financially it makes sense
20:24:37  <ogd>mikolalysenko: nice, no more secret job moonlighting
20:25:00  <mikolalysenko>want to save up some cash and then maybe move some place cheaper
20:25:16  <ogd>mikolalysenko: thats what i did :)
20:25:34  <mikolalysenko>yeah
20:25:39  <mikolalysenko>grad school set me back financially a bit
20:25:54  <mikolalysenko>not much savings, but also not much debt
20:26:11  <mikolalysenko>so need to make up some lost ground
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20:50:23  <freeman-lab>ogd: super sweet, i can head there around 2, send me the address?
20:50:30  <ogd>yep will do
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22:10:40  <wa7son>mafintosh: want to hack up?
22:26:40  <mafintosh>wa7son: we're at the house
22:27:07  <mafintosh>wa7son: feel free to swing by
22:27:21  <wa7son>mafintosh: cool - I’ll just finish up here and jump on the bart
22:27:51  <mafintosh>wa7son: cool! we'll be here all day
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