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00:07:37  <mk30>owen1 i also think the list is about right. agree with ogd that there isn't really a downside to following them (except having to pay more attention than you might otherwise be to how your actions affect others - which isn't really a downside at all...it's something that most of us strive to do in general...become aware if tehre's something that we're doing that hurts others and then stop doing that)
00:08:00  <mk30>also, the cost to continuing to do those things is alienating women
00:08:07  <mk30>i can 100% guarantee that
00:09:17  <mk30>but if that's a cost that your colleagues are willing to accept, in exchange for avoiding having to pay attention to how they may be hurting others, then that's their business.
00:12:39  <mk30>fwiw, i've experienced every one of the "no-no's" on the list and even when the person doing the "no-no" didn't notice that they did it, _i_ noticed it and it felt shitty. it also felt shitty to know that people in my own community - a community where i thought that all of us considered each other competent, etc. - in fact wasn't really thinking of me and people like me at all.
00:13:38  <mk30>one last thing - even if someone does do something that is exclusive (for ex, having the default avatar look male)
00:14:09  <mk30>if someone points out that that's messed up, you can either react by taking that seriously
00:14:17  <mk30>or by dismissing it, getting argumentative, etc.
00:16:00  <mk30>and you can imagine which path leads to better outcomes. :) we all make mistakes, but when mistakes are pointed out to us, we can choose how to react and in that reaction, we can either contribute to rectifying the mistake or in making it worse.
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00:25:46  <owen1>mk30: i'll forward your reply to my team. thanks
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00:57:12  <mk30>owen1 :D
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01:12:54  <yoshuawuyts>hah, I like the suggestion of neutralizing "How would you explain it to your mom?" with "How would you explain it to your cat?"
01:13:15  <yoshuawuyts>"javascript for cats" ^__^
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04:30:16  <yoshuawuyts>This is slightly concerning - https://github.com/webpack/webpack/pull/861#issuecomment-77569830
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04:35:04  <terinjokes>yoshuawuyts: i really think that was supposed to be taken as a joke
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07:25:05  <yoshuawuyts>terinjokes: that single patch changes 2500 lines, I have no idea what is and isn't supposed to be a joke
07:26:06  <terinjokes>i'm referring specifically to the comment
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07:27:58  <terinjokes>since multiple people had commented saying that it had worked, and the original question reads (to me) as asking what's the breaking change for the major version bump
07:28:09  <terinjokes>but, i could also be reading too much in between lines :/
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07:30:18  <yoshuawuyts>terinjokes: haha. If it's a joke, it's very ironic. Webpack seems to bundle like 40 transforms in its core
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07:30:59  <terinjokes>i don't think you need to read between lines (except this one) to know my position on /that/
07:31:22  <yoshuawuyts>haha, yeahhhh same.
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08:14:01  <substack>yoshuawuyts: it's really hard to make semver work well for projects with a large surface area
08:14:12  <substack>it's hard for browserify too, particularly when features span multiple packages
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09:03:04  <yoshuawuyts>terinjokes haha, won't be in Tokyo for quite a while ^^ Wish I was though, wanna check it out!
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15:43:19  <domanic_>feross, hey are you in berlin yet?
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16:31:49  <domanic_>mk30, http://www.theonion.com/article/condo-board-maintains-purity-of-bloodline-through--37721
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17:01:18  <domanic_>pfraze, also: https://github.com/ssbc/scuttlebot/pull/215
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17:28:34  <mk30>domanic_: have you seen http://www.theonion.com/article/report-nations-gentrified-neighborhoods-threatened-2419
17:30:07  <domanic_>oh yes, that is a true classic
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18:56:53  <isaacs>substack: Hey, can you take a look at this and either merge or tell me no? https://github.com/substack/node-deep-equal/pull/24
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23:14:56  <substack>isaacs: I'll look at it in a bit!
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