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00:25:58  <jjjohnny_>check for IFTTT email
00:26:08  <jjjohnny_>i dont even use for long time
00:26:20  <jjjohnny_>but got one aksing permissions
00:30:04  <jjjohnny_>these protests are small and effective
00:31:50  <joepie91_>jjjohnny_: ?
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00:39:24  <joepie91_>jjjohnny_: &
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00:44:59  <jjjohnny_>whatdya want joey
00:46:52  <joepie91_>was wondering what this was refering to: [01:30] <jjjohnny_> these protests are small and effective
00:46:53  <joepie91_>:p
00:47:26  <jjjohnny_>ferguson protests
00:47:44  <jjjohnny_>shittin down highways with < 100 people
00:47:52  <jjjohnny_>shuttin*
00:50:07  <joepie91_>ahhh
00:50:09  <joepie91_>yep
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02:03:13  <jjjohnny_>http://youtu.be/uT0uaZ5Ymeo
02:03:35  <jjjohnny_>paramilitary agents set fires in ferguson
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02:12:44  <substack>jesusabdullah: I fixed some ecstatic range header bugs https://github.com/jesusabdullah/node-ecstatic/pull/124
02:13:23  <substack>you can actually crash any ecstatic server with a range: 1-2 request
02:13:56  <substack>*2-1
02:22:00  <jesusabdullah>I see
02:22:56  <joepie91_>that's... concerning
02:24:01  <jesusabdullah>ehh
02:24:11  <jesusabdullah>there's lots of random weirdo bugs in there
02:24:20  <jesusabdullah>static fileservers have a lot of edge cases
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02:25:05  <joepie91_>jesusabdullah: edge cases like what?
02:25:08  <joepie91_>(serious question)
02:25:33  <jesusabdullah>hmm
02:25:38  <substack>well now it's a little bit better
02:26:17  <substack>I'm not worried, clients should gracefully reconnect and not expect that servers should be particularly reliable
02:26:50  <jesusabdullah>it's a lot of branching joepie91_ like, for instance, for 404s it has to correctly handle bad stats, then try to handle the case where there's a 404.html to show off and the case where there isn't a 404.html, just lots of twisty little passages
02:27:49  <jesusabdullah>but if you want to know some specific oddball edge cases, the best place to go is the test suite---half the tests are weird cases people ran into over the years https://github.com/jesusabdullah/node-ecstatic/tree/master/test
02:27:59  <joepie91_>mm, doesn't seem like a particularly complex thing to me, compared to other production stuff...
02:28:02  * joepie91_goes look
02:29:22  <joepie91_>jesusabdullah: can you point me at a particular one? all the ones I've looked at so far seem pretty normal
02:29:53  <jesusabdullah>On the grand scheme it's not terrible, it's just that it's a lot more than "the uri is the filename, fs.createReadStream"
02:30:10  <joepie91_>hrm. :P
02:30:31  <jesusabdullah>https://github.com/jesusabdullah/node-ecstatic/blob/master/test/common-cases.js#L60-L68
02:30:42  <jesusabdullah>These came up when uri encoding was behaving strangely
02:31:08  <jesusabdullah>you have to split on / then decode the uri components then join on / iirc
02:32:17  <jesusabdullah>https://github.com/jesusabdullah/node-ecstatic/blob/master/test/common-cases.js#L84-L94 compression support adds a few code branches---various combinations of compressed forms being available (or not available) and headers indicating (or not indicating) that compressed is acceptable/desirable
02:32:56  <joepie91_>idk, doesn't seem too complex to me
02:33:00  <jesusabdullah>https://github.com/jesusabdullah/node-ecstatic/blob/master/test/common-cases.js#L74-L78
02:33:04  <joepie91_>but perhaps I'm corrupted by having written a WHOIS parsing library
02:33:05  <joepie91_>lol
02:33:16  <jesusabdullah>404 resolves to 404.html which exists so it should return the contents of 404.html but with a code 200
02:34:02  <jesusabdullah>none of the cases in and of themselves are that complex but there are a lot of little gotchas like that
02:34:10  <jesusabdullah>things where it took years for someone to stumble on it
02:35:21  <joepie91_>meh, idk :P
02:35:27  <jesusabdullah>it's just whack-a-mole
02:37:08  <joepie91_>well, again, perhaps WHOIs parsing has corrupted me, heh
02:37:30  * joepie91_mumbles something about .co.ph
02:37:44  <joepie91_>hm, may have been .co.th actually
02:40:36  <joepie91_>jesusabdullah: https://github.com/joepie91/python-whois/commit/ae547d09704f1e1a5a43c617a8568b19f7e3e342
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09:33:11  <owen1>The State of JavaScript in 2015 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8679245
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09:43:22  <joepie91_>owen1: having done frontend JS crap for some 10 years now, this post is greatly amusing me :)
09:44:55  <owen1>joepie91_: (: in what way?
09:45:49  <joepie91_>owen1: well, realistically... if I compare the absolute nightmare that JS dev was 10 years ago, to the current high-churn situation
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09:46:11  <joepie91_>then rewriting your codebase every year because of a new set of favourite libraries/frameworks/whatever would STILL take less time than doing it manually 10 years ago
09:46:20  <joepie91_>when every browser had its own opinion of what was "standard", even across versions
09:46:35  <joepie91_>and half of what people take for granted in the JS world now either didn't exist or only existed in theory
09:46:51  <joepie91_>I therefore consider the current situation a net win :P
09:49:02  <owen1>ahah. yeah
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13:38:23  <juliangruber>is there a `this.push('')` for streams in object mode?
13:38:29  <juliangruber>substack isaacs Domenic ^
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14:12:36  <juliangruber>i'm calling `this._read()` directly now and that works
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17:04:43  <calvinmetcalf>domanic: http://calvinmetcalf.com/post/104082905653/porting-node-js-crypto-to-the-browser-part-1-all
17:05:16  <domanic>calvinmetcalf, reading
17:05:42  <calvinmetcalf>domanic: it's long
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17:46:20  <domanic>calvinmetcalf, okay I have a comment
17:47:13  <domanic>key derivation is important - but even at best using a password isn't a very great way to encrypt something
17:47:51  <domanic>key derivation is more or less about taking a weak source of entropy (memorable passwords, and the way humans use them) and try to make it stronger
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17:54:46  <phated>isaacs: thanks again
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17:59:00  <calvinmetcalf>domanic: so I should add a disclaimer on key derivation that using a password is generally a bad idea to begin with?
17:59:52  <domanic>calvinmetcalf, I feel that would be helpful
18:00:27  <domanic>the really important thing for people to understand are the principles
18:00:38  <domanic>the properties that various algorithms and cyphers have
18:01:16  <domanic>so key derivation is about making it harder to check that a given hash output corresponds to a particular plain text input.
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22:12:21  <ogd>brianloveswords: heya i think nodeschool.io dns is b0rked?
22:14:09  <brianloveswords>ogd sry just saw this, replied on twitter – our dns provider is under attack, all of their sites are fucked right now :(
22:14:19  <brianloveswords>ogd: https://twitter.com/dnsimple, http://dnsimplestatus.com/
22:18:50  <ogd>brianloveswords: oh damn
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22:21:09  <joepie91_>brianloveswords: any idea how big the attack is?
22:22:38  <brianloveswords>joepie91_: I don't, but this is the first time they've been taken down in the years I've been using 'em.
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23:06:04  <brianloveswords>ogd: OH we can send people to nodeschool.github.io in the meantime, can't we?
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23:54:19  <thealphanerd>substack: I got to the bottom of why the test suite stopped working on osx for watchify
23:54:20  <thealphanerd>https://github.com/paulmillr/chokidar/pull/186
23:54:21  <thealphanerd>pr in
23:54:32  <thealphanerd>same weirdness I was running into earlier with $TMPDIR
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