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09:40:54  <Altreus>Anyone heard from pkrumins-kit recently?
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16:38:59  <prettyrobots>Any nice blog posts on profiling Node.js?
16:39:10  <prettyrobots>I've run a program with `--prof`, but I can't find a way to visualize it.
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17:08:02  <thlorenz>prettyrobots: I used to be able to load v8.log into chrome://tracing, but it seems to not work anymore
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17:08:38  <thlorenz>see: https://github.com/thlorenz/v8-perf/issues/4
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17:09:32  <thlorenz>prettyrobots: this could also help: https://github.com/thlorenz/v8-profiling
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17:09:57  <thlorenz>specifically https://github.com/thlorenz/v8-profiling#processing-tick-data
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17:50:10  <prettyrobots>@thlorenz: When did it stop working. I can install an old Node.js to get to it.
17:52:44  <thlorenz>prettyrobots: not related to node, but to version of Chrome
17:53:17  <thlorenz>I'm not sure, but maybe they no longer keep this working since the Chrome Devtools timeline has part of that functionality now
17:53:26  <thlorenz>stopped working about 2 months ago
17:53:49  <paul_irish>thlorenz: you've seen profviz right
17:54:18  <paul_irish>optimizeLegibility
17:54:21  <paul_irish>whoops
17:54:27  <paul_irish>https://v8.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/tools/profviz/profviz.html <===
17:55:29  <thlorenz>paul_irish: https://github.com/thlorenz/v8-profiling#in-the-browser yeah :)
17:56:15  <thlorenz>not exactly same functionality though as chrome://tracing
17:56:23  <paul_irish>aye
17:56:37  <paul_irish>i'm not sure if it was intentional that v8 logs now fail in trace-viewer
17:56:44  <thlorenz>I miss the ability to interact with things and see my code executing in relation to v8 events like GC:Scavenge
17:57:07  <thlorenz>:( any intent to fix it or will it be deprecated in favor of devtool timeline?
17:57:17  <thlorenz>*devtools
17:57:20  <paul_irish>https://github.com/google/trace-viewer i can cc an engineer on any issue you file
17:57:34  <paul_irish>no tracing will live for a while
17:57:52  <paul_irish>it'll only die when timeline can do everything it can
17:57:55  <paul_irish>which we're not close to yet
17:58:29  <thlorenz>wow awesome, thanks, I'll file an issue - all I can say though is that same v8 logs that could be loaded before produce undesired results now
17:58:58  <paul_irish>toss some screenshots in there
17:59:12  <paul_irish>im pretty sure we still want v8 logs to work in tracing
17:59:13  <paul_irish>so
17:59:19  <paul_irish>valid regression
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18:23:34  <thlorenz>paul_irish: https://github.com/google/trace-viewer/issues/622
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18:29:41  <prettyrobots>thlorenz: Thank you.
18:29:50  <thlorenz>prettyrobots: np :)
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18:40:27  <prettyrobots>demariuschrite: You can't see any scrollback.
18:42:52  <prettyrobots>https://gist.github.com/bigeasy/e58f97b67258cd19fe78
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18:43:26  <prettyrobots>https://v8.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/tools/profviz/profviz.html
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18:44:17  <prettyrobots>And...
18:44:17  <prettyrobots>https://github.com/thlorenz/v8-profiling#processing-tick-data
18:44:44  <prettyrobots>demariuschrite: ^^^ scrollback is in the gist.
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18:51:55  <prettyrobots>demariuschrite: https://gist.github.com/bigeasy/e58f97b67258cd19fe78
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18:58:10  <prettyrobots>When I run profviz.html, I get a log of:
18:58:17  <prettyrobots>I get a lot of:
18:58:17  <prettyrobots>Code move event for unknown code: 0x2a6955c91ea0
18:58:25  <prettyrobots>And not much else.
18:58:36  <prettyrobots>Forgotten switch to node?
18:58:50  <prettyrobots>Missing switch? Am I invoking Node.js correctly.
18:58:51  <prettyrobots>?
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20:17:28  <therealkoopa>Is anyone pretty familiar/use seaport?
20:18:04  <prettyrobots>paul_irish: If I really want those visualizations, should I attempt to install an older version of Chrome?
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21:35:33  <prettyrobots>thlorenz: I'm not having much luck with any of the visualization tools.
21:37:43  <thlorenz>yep, chrome://tracing was the shit, but it'll be fixed soon (holding paul_irish to it)
21:37:59  <prettyrobots>% node --prof --track_gc_object_stats --trace_gc_verbose --log_timer_events load.js
21:37:59  <prettyrobots>Error: unrecognized flag --log_timer_events
21:37:59  <prettyrobots>Try --help for options
21:38:11  <thlorenz>you need node 11+ for those flags
21:38:20  <prettyrobots>Okay.
21:38:27  <prettyrobots>Thank you. One step at a time.
21:38:34  <prettyrobots>demariuschrite: ^^^
21:38:43  <thlorenz>mainly the --log_timer_events which is essential to get a call graph
21:39:19  <demariuschrite>thanks.
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21:43:56  <therealkoopa>nrw: I noticed some activity on seaport's project from you. Are you still using seaport?
21:48:45  <nrw>therealkoopa: I am not. I had two systems built around Seaport (both using seaport heavily) that I have now migrated off. Are you looking for some particular info?
21:49:12  <therealkoopa>nrw: Just running into a lot of issues with it, and one of them is really killing me.
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21:49:34  <therealkoopa>nrw: And the issue looks super familiar to something you submitted a PR for back in June
21:49:49  <therealkoopa>nrw: https://github.com/substack/seaport/issues/68
21:49:52  <therealkoopa>What did you switch to?
21:50:13  <therealkoopa>I saw defunctzombie_zz https://github.com/defunctzombie/node-spaceport
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21:53:30  <nrw>therealkoopa: did you try my fork of seaport? That looks like one I fixed.
21:53:59  <therealkoopa>nrw: Not yet. Looks like some of your fixes made it in, though.
21:55:05  <nrw>therealkoopa: and appointments, I mostly found myself tracing bugs back to Seaport. In my experience, any problem with seaport broke the whole system and I couldn't tolerate a single point of failure like that.
21:55:40  <nrw>therealkoopa: I just do the "service registry" work in an ansible hosts file.
21:56:40  <therealkoopa>nrw: Okay, yea I use chef so it should be easy enough to have it have the service registry stuff.
21:56:47  <therealkoopa>I did enjoy the seaport queuing feature
21:56:58  <nrw>therealkoopa: I've been really happy with the consistent results and ease of maintenance of just routing services when I run a deploy script
21:57:17  <nrw>therealkoopa: seaport would be great if it was reliable.
22:00:38  <therealkoopa>totally
22:03:26  <prettyrobots>thlorenz: Okay. It is now working.
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22:03:56  <prettyrobots>But, I'm not quite sure what I'm looking at. Are there any good articles on how to read the profile report or interpret the Graphviz visualization?
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22:08:03  <thlorenz>prettyrobots: couldn't find any which is why I started https://github.com/thlorenz/v8-profiling in order to capture some of that info
22:08:16  <thlorenz>if you find anymore please file an issue on the repo so we can include it
22:08:24  <prettyrobots>thlorenz: Ah. Well, I have a great big profiling project.
22:09:40  <prettyrobots>node load.js 14.86s user 0.91s system 104% cpu 15.148 total
22:09:43  <prettyrobots>versus
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22:09:55  <prettyrobots>node load.js --leveldown 0.12s user 0.03s system 96% cpu 0.156 total
22:10:28  <prettyrobots>A pure JavaScript implementation for LevelUP.
22:11:07  <prettyrobots>A long way to go from 15 -> 0.15.
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22:26:00  <niftylettuce>just released new framework
22:26:11  <niftylettuce>http://eskimo.io (also on front page of Hacker News)
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22:44:39  <gozala>substack: does modern browserify still have an option to export require globally
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23:15:04  <substack>gozala: anything you load with -r behaves that way
23:15:13  <substack>browserify -r yo -r holmes
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23:15:53  <niftylettuce>substack: so many comments to me "love your icon"... I auto-respond "made by @substack"
23:15:55  <niftylettuce>lol
23:16:16  <niftylettuce>i gave peteris a shout out in that blog post to catonmat
23:17:43  <substack>gozala: then you can do require('yo') and require('holmes') in the outer scope
23:17:46  <substack>niftylettuce: neat
23:18:19  <gozala>substack: oh I did not realize -r was doing it thanks
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