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02:42:15  <owen1>substack: are u working on some voxel.js echo-system but for 2d games?
02:44:59  <substack>owen1: I'm just making a silly game
02:45:29  <owen1>ahahh
02:46:29  <owen1>just fyi, the dominant html5 framework is 300k. it's great but not modular. here is the maintainer's reaction to modularize it - www.html5gamedevs.com/topic/4536-modularize-version-of-phaser/
02:48:50  <owen1>"Module version hell. In terms of looking after so many different modules, cross checking a change to one doesn't break a version of another, explaining to end users why maybe their Sprite doesn't do X because they've only got module version Y installed. That's a whole other level of support I really don't fancy entering! Not to mention the increased dev time for me maintaining so many independent packages."
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02:58:19  <substack>owen1: I see it completely the opposite.
02:58:35  <substack>when they're separate I don't need to worry about most of that stuff
02:58:40  <substack>and when they have granular versioning
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04:06:07  <owen1>substack: exactly. i think the main reason is he didn't planned it in a modular way and now he is 'stuck'
04:06:50  <owen1>plus he is not coming from the node/npm world, but from flash world
04:07:02  <owen1>so his ideas were shaped accordingly
04:08:20  <substack>that's the problem with non-modular code
04:08:22  <substack>you get stuck
04:11:21  <owen1>plus less people can help since it's 40,000 lines of js. not the easiest to reason about
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04:15:50  <owen1>and the community have to wait for the leader to publish new version, and the velocity slows and there is less innovation.
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