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00:16:19  <defunctzombie>ogd: ping
00:16:25  <ogd>yo
00:16:29  <defunctzombie>https://github.com/maxogden/dependency-check/blob/master/index.js#L8
00:16:37  <ogd>yes
00:16:39  <defunctzombie>ironically enough you did not use dependency check on dependency check
00:16:44  <ogd>lol
00:16:57  <defunctzombie>this is missing from the package.json file :)
00:17:12  <ogd>its in devDependencies on my local copy.. hmm
00:17:20  <ogd>yea https://github.com/maxogden/dependency-check/blob/master/package.json#L26
00:17:25  <defunctzombie>yes
00:17:33  <ogd>oh but its a normal dep
00:17:36  <ogd>oOOPS
00:17:40  <defunctzombie>so that might be something to fix for the program checks
00:17:54  <defunctzombie>only stuff in test or tests folder should be under devDeps maybe
00:18:05  <defunctzombie>or allow user to specify ignore folder and have some defaults
00:18:12  <ogd>ok fixed, haha
00:18:14  <defunctzombie>nice
00:18:49  <ogd>defunctzombie: yea i was thinking of adding --ignore modulename
00:19:07  <ogd>and a --no-dev to disable devDependencies checking
00:19:10  <defunctzombie>dunno what that would be useful for
00:19:29  <ogd>i have a case where i have a dependency that is only used as a browser field override for browserify
00:19:35  <ogd>so it doesnt show up in my code anywhere
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00:19:41  <defunctzombie>ah
00:19:57  <defunctzombie>yes that would be a usecase
00:20:08  <defunctzombie>so I have a usecase
00:20:24  <defunctzombie>what if my app doesn't have an entry point in package.json
00:21:01  <defunctzombie>I was trying to run dep check on my "app" type project
00:21:17  <defunctzombie>but it wants to look for index.js
00:21:23  <ogd>have you tried --entry foo.js
00:21:25  <ogd>or does it still error
00:21:29  <defunctzombie>let me try that
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00:21:46  <defunctzombie>yea, still errors
00:21:52  <ogd>ah ok, i can make that not fail
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00:26:10  <ogd>defunctzombie: ok should work now
00:27:10  <defunctzombie>ogd: you should use commander to do options parsing :p so it actually works haha
00:27:34  <defunctzombie>dependency-check --entry app.js --unused package.json
00:27:44  <defunctzombie>that line doesn't work with whatever you are using
00:27:47  <defunctzombie>anyhow.. unrelated tho
00:27:50  <ogd>put --unused at the end
00:27:51  <defunctzombie>cause it still doesn't work :(
00:27:56  <defunctzombie>dependency-check package.json --entry app.js --unused
00:28:04  <defunctzombie>still fails on me with cannot find module index.js
00:28:15  <defunctzombie>unless that is the wrong command
00:29:01  <ogd>if you do DEBUG=* before it what does it log for 'entry paths'
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00:29:34  <defunctzombie>dependency-check parsing package.json +0ms
00:29:38  <defunctzombie>then I see resolve
00:29:42  <defunctzombie>with two items
00:29:45  <defunctzombie>the current folder
00:29:49  <defunctzombie>and ./index.js
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00:29:56  <defunctzombie>then it errors
00:30:08  <ogd>defunctzombie: are you sure you installed the latest version? it should always debug log 'entry paths'
00:30:16  <defunctzombie>1.1.4
00:30:35  <ogd>hm weird
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00:30:44  <defunctzombie>oh strange
00:30:49  <defunctzombie>ok
00:30:53  <defunctzombie>I just installed again
00:30:57  <defunctzombie>and now I get it working
00:31:06  <ogd>i blame npm
00:31:06  <defunctzombie>oh oops
00:31:10  <defunctzombie>I forgot the -g
00:31:20  <defunctzombie>on the latest install in one of my terminals :/
00:31:21  <defunctzombie>haha
00:31:24  <ogd>heh
00:31:41  <defunctzombie>this is where --version support helps
00:31:52  <defunctzombie>I tried to do dependency-check --version but could not
00:32:11  <defunctzombie>oh damn
00:32:17  <ogd>just write a module called global-module-version <foo> that finds foo's package.json and logs the version :)
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00:32:20  <defunctzombie>so what do I do about modules that are for client side js use?
00:32:23  <ogd>where foo is a command in your path that was installed with -g
00:32:33  <defunctzombie>heh
00:32:48  <defunctzombie>it seems that dependency check can't traverse to those
00:32:54  <defunctzombie>which makes sense
00:32:57  <ogd>defunctzombie: do they have a separate entry point?
00:33:00  <ogd>you can do multiple
00:33:04  <ogd>--entry foo.js --entry bar.js
00:33:05  <defunctzombie>hm
00:33:10  <defunctzombie>ok I will try that
00:33:14  <defunctzombie>they kinda have an entry point
00:33:17  <defunctzombie>they are client side
00:33:22  <defunctzombie>so yea.. I guess they do
00:35:22  <defunctzombie>cool
00:35:28  <defunctzombie>module helped me clean up some things
00:35:30  <defunctzombie>very nice
00:35:34  <ogd>w00t!
00:35:44  <ogd>i found 3 extraneous deps in one of my own projects today too hehe
00:36:07  <ogd>i had to convert my require(path.resolve(bla blah)) to require('./blah blah') first cause detective only does the latter
00:36:25  <defunctzombie>yep
00:36:42  <substack>ogd: I have another crazy idea that might make detective absurdly fast
00:36:52  <substack>using https://github.com/dominictarr/js-tokenizer
00:37:28  <defunctzombie>substack: iirc detective is not the slow part of the stack anymore
00:37:37  <defunctzombie>tho I could be wrong.. haven't benched in a while
00:38:11  <defunctzombie>before switching to anything like that tho I would make sure that actually handles the javascript out there
00:38:24  <defunctzombie>would suck pushing a parser change and then it can't parse current valid es5 :)
00:38:36  <defunctzombie>like happened with some of the es6 stuff
00:38:48  <defunctzombie>those people should just have to do their own magic
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00:40:52  <substack>not looking forward to what a mess that is going to create
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00:44:52  <defunctzombie>nope
00:44:54  <defunctzombie>not at all
00:45:35  <substack>my plan is to just maintain parity with node, whatever node does
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00:51:59  <defunctzombie>makes sense
00:52:05  <defunctzombie>which really means whatever v8 does I htink
00:52:07  <defunctzombie>*think
00:54:28  <ogd>substack: with minimist if you do `dependency-check --entry app.js --unused package.json` is it correct that minimist sets 'app.js' and 'package.json' as values of the preceding -- args
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00:59:48  <substack>ogd: correct, unless you set opts.boolean
00:59:57  <ogd>ohhh
01:02:20  <ogd>substack: oh wait, i have to know what arguments by name i want to treat as booleans? would 'foo --bar baz' get 'baz' in the _ array if 'bar' was set as the boolean option?
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01:03:49  <ogd>substack: so minimist treats `--foo=bar` and `--foo bar` the same, would it be a valid request for a mode where only `--foo=bar` sets {foo: 'bar'} otherwise all standalone `--` arguments get treated as booleans meaing `--foo bar` would return {foo: true, _: ['bar'[{
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01:05:11  <substack>I think that would be too surprising
01:05:27  <substack>or at least, seems like a really narrow use-case
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01:07:23  <ogd>substack: for example right now in dependency-checker you can't do `dependency-check --entry=app.js --unused package.json`, you have to do `dependency-check package.json --entry=app.js --unused`
01:07:32  <ogd>substack: defunctzombie hit that earlier
01:08:11  <ogd>substack: whereas with e.g. npm you can do `npm install --save foo` or `npm install foo --save` and both work
01:08:36  <substack>ogd: just add 'unused' to opts.boolean
01:09:33  <ogd>substack: wouldnt it make sense to have a general option though? e.g. treat all `--arg` as boolean, unless they are specifically `--arg=something`
01:09:45  <substack>no
01:10:22  <ogd>IMO it makes sense because there is lots of precedent elsewhere in CLI argument parsing land, but i figured you might have some opinion on this
01:10:31  <substack>many command-line tools use `--foo bar` and many tools use `--foo=bar`
01:10:36  <substack>minimist picks one
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01:10:53  <substack>or rather, picks that those are equivalent unless specified otherwise
01:11:13  <ogd>i get that, i just dont get why it can't be a general option rather than a argument-by-argument one
01:11:45  <substack>I don't understand your use-case very well.
01:12:12  <ogd>the use case is the same as `npm install --save foo` vs `npm install foo --save`, i have boolean options
01:12:44  <ogd>but i find it annoying to have to tell the argument parser which ones are booleans and which ones arent, cause it adds another point in the code where i have to make sure to update whenever i add new arguments to a module
01:13:21  <ogd> `npm install --save foo` vs `npm install foo --save` should both parse to {_: ['install', 'foo'], save: true}
01:14:23  <ogd>e.g. 'dont treat --save as a key/value pair with the next argument, treat it as a boolean', but as a module level preference and not a special case for that one argument by name
01:15:46  <ogd>i agree there isn't a correct answer as to what `npm install --save foo` should parse to though, it could be argued either way ({_: ['install'], save: 'foo'} or {_: ['install', 'foo'], save: true})
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01:19:18  <substack>I'm warming to this suggestion
01:19:24  <substack>would probably accept a PR
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01:19:52  <substack>ogd: are you in east oak? I'll be at dimond park
01:20:02  <ogd>downtown, goin to open oakland
01:24:35  <defunctzombie>this is why you gotta specify if it is a boolean or if it expects args
01:24:40  <defunctzombie>otherwise it is ambiguous
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02:15:07  <jjjohnny>you cant pick just one
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02:16:27  <jjjohnny>stagas: yo instead of a script app, i want to pay you btc to turn various DSP functions into modules
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02:17:03  <jjjohnny>cuz like i already got a script app gonna wax that one bruh just sayin
02:18:17  <jjjohnny>stagas: actually I would merge ours
02:18:27  <jjjohnny>and substacks
02:18:32  <jjjohnny>into one
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02:18:49  <jjjohnny>featurely speaking
02:19:14  <jjjohnny>but its the modules
02:19:44  <substack>I want to make a search box for npm synth modules
02:20:10  <substack>we can tag them in a certain way so they show up on npmjs.org under /browse/keyword
02:20:48  <jjjohnny>dsp?
02:20:53  <substack>browserify cdn will be useful to making the require() calls work
02:20:58  <jjjohnny>amfm
02:21:21  <substack>dsp means something different
02:21:33  <substack>it's a broader term
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02:21:44  <jjjohnny>jsynth
02:22:02  <jjjohnny>JSynth
02:22:21  <jjjohnny>but yeah we need these functional synth modules
02:22:39  <jjjohnny>snares shakers rattlers n shit
02:22:55  <jjjohnny>LPFs, HPFs
02:24:22  <substack>sfx
02:24:34  <jjjohnny>my last tweet is the greatest tweet
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02:25:33  <jjjohnny>u have my permission to retweet it
02:25:35  <jjjohnny>https://twitter.com/johnnyscript/status/479070072434991104
02:25:59  <jjjohnny>remix it, make it your own
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05:20:49  <jjjohnny>fivk ju
05:24:36  <ogd>http://momspaghetti.ytmnd.com/
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12:08:45  <domanic>https://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/gkrichar/papers/eval-ecoop-2011.pdf
12:08:56  <domanic>"The Eval That Men Do"
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15:46:58  <mmalecki>domanic: https://github.com/koentje/awesome-batteryInfo
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17:15:16  <mmalecki>domanic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poutine
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17:57:49  <ogd>ಠ_ಠ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQTpYx0OIXY&t=41m15s
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21:03:54  <jjjohnny>WIFI HIFIVE
21:03:54  <LOUDBOT>ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED: KEEP RUNNING
21:04:01  <jjjohnny>LOUDBOT: tweet me
21:04:01  <LOUDBOT>jjjohnny: FUK THE ELITE UP DOWN STRANGE CHARM BOTTOM TOP QUARKS
21:04:15  <jjjohnny>thas not what i wanted
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23:40:16  <domanic>substack, you *HAVE* to use this as your photo on next conference website http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fslant.investorplace.com%2Ffiles%2F2013%2F10%2Fgoogle-privacy.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fslant.investorplace.com%2F2013%2F10%2Fgoogle-privacy-goog%2F&h=480&w=640&tbnid=ujeOj_XnO4_70M%3A&zoom=1&docid=w4LfzUlXtxbjDM&ei=FiOiU-e-AobP0QWWvYHQDA&tbm=isch&ved=0CB8QMygFMAU&iact=rc&uact=3&dur=952&page=1&start=0&ndsp=18
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23:52:15  <ogd>domanic: ahahahahaha investorplace.com
23:53:08  <ogd>substack: whoa you found a scraper bike in seattle https://secure.flickr.com/photos/substack/3131573795/
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23:58:52  <domanic>mmalecki, underwater robots! https://secure.flickr.com/photos/substack/
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