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00:32:31  <timoxley>Domenic: ahh, nice!
00:32:45  <timoxley>Domenic: I've hacked together this thing to try support as many es6 features as possible, maybe it's useful to you https://github.com/requireio/node6
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00:33:13  <Domenic>timoxley: oh wow, yeah i was pretty sure i was going to want to build something like that... very cool!
00:34:59  <timoxley>Domenic: for the most part you can use it wherever you'd normally use `node`
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01:41:57  <feross>hey, have you guys had any complains from linux users being unable to run command line scripts?
01:42:12  <feross>it seems like `#!/usr/bin/env node` might not do the trick anymore
01:42:28  <feross>because the node binary is named “nodejs” in ubuntu 13.10+
01:42:31  <feross>see: https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Installing-Node.js-via-package-manager#ubuntu-mint-elementary-os
01:43:04  <feross>so users need to do `sudo apt-get install nodejs-legacy` in order to get `node` to work
01:43:50  <feross>it seems like chris lea’s PPA doesn’t have this problem
01:44:14  <feross>but ubuntu users will probably just use apt-get since it contains a 0.10.x version
01:44:32  <feross>i just noticed that `nodejs` works on OS X so perhaps we should just do `#!/usr/bin/env nodejs` from now on?
01:45:09  <feross>thoughts?
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01:54:52  <feross>here’s the relevant issue if anyone is interested: https://github.com/feross/webtorrent/issues/59#issuecomment-43460595
01:59:08  <Wraithan>feross: the nodejs thing is because some old ass HAM radio setup claimed a bunch of the noun namespace years ago even though they barely use it
01:59:32  <Wraithan>feross: and other platforms are totally fine using node as the name, ubuntu is the odd duck, not others.
02:00:08  <feross>that’s unfortunate
02:00:13  <feross>so are we just going to make those fools `apt-get install nodejs-legacy` to use our programs?
02:00:26  <Wraithan>or install the PPA to stay up to date on node
02:00:43  <Wraithan>Ubuntu is generally pretty far behind, and once 0.12 comes out it will be again
02:00:54  <feross>okay, i’m fine recommending that to people
02:01:47  <Wraithan>if you read the thread on why they stuck with nodejs instead of node, you'll see that they figure they can bully node into changing its binary name
02:03:46  <phated>note: ubuntu was on 0.6 until (probably) the latest release
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08:17:39  <rowbit>substack, pkrumins: These encoders are STILL down: 166.78.114.172(dev-ie11-2)
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08:23:42  <greweb>an open platform for GLSL transitions: http://GLSL.io/ , if you have any feedback :-)
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12:26:33  <ogd>feross: would it make sense to ask for run-parallel to take a concurrency option? e.g. to do 3 at a time
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13:28:43  <domanic>I think this deserves a special prize: https://www.npmjs.org/package/lodash.noop
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18:05:12  <feross>ogd: depends on how much code it adds to the package. if it’s <=5 lines, i’d happily add it
18:05:29  <feross>ogd: i’m trying to keep these super lightweight
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18:29:34  <Kesla>feross, ogd: I've been thinking about doing a run-limited, that does exactly that. Give me a couple of hours and I might have something ready.
18:30:02  <ogd>Kesla: nice
18:30:17  <ogd>Kesla: maybe run-concurrent is a more straigtforward name?
18:31:05  <Kesla>Ogd: true, much better. Let's go with that
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19:01:55  <ogd>substack: so i ruled out https://github.com/substack/pushover/pull/29 as the cause of the hanging i was getting in git-http-backend
19:02:17  <ogd>substack: but i think perhaps git-http-backend isn't sending the correct responses back... still working on narrowing down my test case
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19:03:08  <ogd>substack: if i push a huge repo to git-http-backend the client immediately says it has written 100% but in reality it just sits there uploading w/o updating any stdout, and the backend is receiving data. but if it's a big enough repo it will take too long and the client will time out
19:03:28  <ogd>substack: so i think maybe git-http-backend should be responding with some sort of progress events, but it's hard to find any info about how the git-receive-pack wire protocol actually works
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19:23:17  <Raynos>gozala: pong
19:23:43  <Raynos>gozala: saw your tweet. want to do that example in mercury then compare notes :)
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19:46:49  <Kesla>feross, ogd https://www.npmjs.org/package/run-concurrent there you go. Reusing loads of the fantastic work feross has done already on run-parallel
19:47:00  <Kesla>ogd warning, there might be bugs :)
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19:58:01  <feross>Kesla: nice!
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20:17:42  <rowbit>substack, pkrumins: These encoders are STILL down: 166.78.114.172(dev-ie11-2)
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20:20:20  <thlorenz>Kesla: just to save you some time have a look at https://github.com/thlorenz/runnel ;)
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20:21:21  <thlorenz>feross: btw try/catch is not an issue if it's around a function call since the function itself doesn't get deoptimized, but it's a hell of a time saver in case something goes wrong
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20:40:48  <feross>thlorenz: haven’t run into this issue yet, but i’ll totally add try/catch the first time i do
20:41:14  <feross>thlorenz: i want to be very conservative about adding new code/features to run-parallel, run-series, run-auto, and run-waterfall
20:41:20  <thlorenz>feross: :) that's how exactly how runnel involved -- feels like you are just in earlier stage
20:41:37  <feross>thlorenz: maybe ;)
20:41:40  <thlorenz>I get that, but sometimes less code is not worth the extra hair you pull
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20:42:45  <feross>thlorenz: so explain the issue to me again
20:42:50  <thlorenz>feross: in a way it's cool to have a super slimmed down (albeit less helpful in case of errors) version and one that's a bit more code, but more helpful
20:43:14  <feross>is the issue that if one of the functions throws, then none of the others will execute?
20:43:22  <thlorenz>if your lib invokes a callback and that one blows up you have no context at all
20:43:38  <thlorenz>yep you'll have almost no info to help you fix it (I was there)
20:43:50  <thlorenz>I was using creationix's step
20:43:59  <thlorenz>then I got frustrated and wrote runnel
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21:45:22  <guybrush>hey substack this line seems wrong? https://github.com/substack/seaport/blob/master/lib/protocol.js#L54
21:45:26  <guybrush>not sure though :p
21:46:17  <guybrush>i mean this event is not documented anyway
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21:48:16  <guybrush>anyway, i ran into a problem with one of my things where i ping the client to make sure the connection is still up - now i think i have to ping the server too so the client knows about the broken connection too haha
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21:49:15  <guybrush>i thought `s = net.connect(); s.on('error',fn)` would cover this problem, but apperently it doesnt
21:51:26  <guybrush>or maybe look for when last ping happened, not sure - thats why i looked into seaport how its working there
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21:53:21  <Domenic>People have mentioned putting zip in the browser a few times. Come discuss on not-a-mailing-list if you guys are interested: http://discourse.specifiction.org/t/a-zip-api-in-the-browser/14
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22:22:10  <creationix>Domenic: I'm using pako for zlib in js-git
22:22:25  <creationix>it's quite fast and not huge like the enscriptem port
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22:49:08  <terinjokes>i thought i saw a PR for browserify to switch to paki as well
22:49:11  <terinjokes>pako*
22:51:38  <guybrush>as of browserify@3.39.0 you get pako with require('zlib')
22:52:02  <guybrush>see https://github.com/substack/node-browserify/pull/721
22:52:57  <guybrush>actually its a shimmed version of pako to be in parity with node's zlib
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23:29:42  <rowbit>substack, pkrumins: A developer is waiting in the queue for explorer/11.0
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23:46:21  <rowbit>Hourly usage stats: [developer: 5, free: 27]
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