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| <dominic_> | ATTENTION STACKVM! WE MUST PREPARE FOR AN EXPEDITION TO CASSINI |
| 00:53:46
| <LOUDBOT> | INTERGALATIC APARTHEID YOU GUYS |
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| <dominic_> | https://twitter.com/CassiniSaturn/status/455845397395546112/photo/1/large |
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| <dominic_> | LOUDBOT YOU TOO |
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| <LOUDBOT> | YOU COULD EVEN SAY SHE'S SWEET TO ME |
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| <substack> | haha yes |
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| <dominic_> | WE'LL NEED YOUR IRREVERANT HUMOR TO KEEP US FROM MURDERING EACH OTHER ON THE LONG SPACE VOYAGE |
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| <LOUDBOT> | OF COURSE IT IS AWESOME, IT IS IN AUSTRIA |
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| <substack> | dominic_: http://lebron.technology/ |
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| <dominic_> | substack: damn straight |
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| <dominic_> | obviously there is gonna be a cache of alien modules in the center of that hexagon, and possibly also an outpost of the alien race that ryan dahl is from. |
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| <jesusabdullah> | http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/231e4m/julie_pagano_its_dangerous_to_go_alone_battling/ I wonder why this is doing so shitty on reddit |
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| <rowbit1> | substack, pkrumins: Encoders down: 50.56.32.168 (dev4) |
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| <jesusabdullah> | ahahahaha |
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| <jesusabdullah> | substack did you buy that who the fuck bought that |
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| <jesusabdullah> | the marketing's unstoppable |
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| <jesusabdullah> | substack: seriously where the hell did lebron.technology come from it is amazing |
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| <jesusabdullah> | ogd: you are my motherfucking hero. LeBroN stack 4 lyfe. |
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| <mikeal> | jlord: you around? |
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| <mikeal> | i'm trying to use sheetsee |
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| <mikeal> | the GET for my spreadsheet is giving me a 400 response |
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| <mikeal> | i made it publicly viewable (not editable) |
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| <ogd> | mikeal: make sure you're not using "new spreadsheets" is what jlord says |
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| <ogd> | mikeal: also make sure you do both viewable and "publish to the web" |
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| <mikeal> | what is "new spreadsheets" |
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| <mikeal> | i literally copied the spreadsheet for node school events |
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| <mikeal> | ya, i did viewable and publish to the web |
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| <mikeal> | ogd: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgOubEckSqTEdGJRbHg4cFJyM0NweUxySmJkLUhGblE&usp=drive_web#gid=0 |
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| <mikeal> | can you/she tell me if that is using new spreadsheets? |
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| <ogd> | Its old. New one has plural spreadsheets in URL |
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| <mikeal> | ok |
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| <mikeal> | wtf |
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| <ogd> | Google is beta testing a backwards incompatible spreadsheet right now |
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| <mikeal> | if you pull that key out the url and try to use it you get a 400 response |
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| <mikeal> | grrrr |
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| <ogd> | Look at chrome dev tools on nodeschool.io and see if anything is different |
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| <mikeal> | there isn't if i use the key from nodeschool.io it works fine :) |
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| <dominictarr_> | isaacs: ping? |
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| <mikeal> | also, how is 400 Bad Request the right response for this |
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| <mikeal> | 400 response with a body of "The spreadsheet at this URL could not be found. Make sure that you have the right URL and that the owner of the spreadsheet hasn't deleted it." |
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| <mikeal> | that's a 404 bro |
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| <mikeal> | what's weird about this is that i remember the last time i made a spreadsheet public the key changed |
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| <mikeal> | but this time it did |
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| <mikeal> | er didn't |
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| <mikeal> | got dammit |
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| <mikeal> | i figured it out |
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| <mikeal> | why does google has a "share" publish to the web and then and entirely different publish to the web feature |
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| <dominictarr_> | feross: haha, yeah... there are just too many things to write. |
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| <dominictarr_> | also I want to make an offline github issue client |
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| <feross> | dominictarr_: i would use the offline issue client |
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| <dominictarr_> | that would "checkout" the issues into a directory, |
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| <dominictarr_> | in markdown... with --- (<hr>) separators |
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| <dominictarr_> | between comments |
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| <dominictarr_> | then I could write a reply... and then the client could detect it's changed, and push it |
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| <dominictarr_> | I need most of this to do feedopensource anyway... |
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| <dominictarr_> | a similar thing for email would be cool. Then you could actually use :wq to send an email. |
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| <dominictarr_> | or maybe :wq then mv into send folder. |
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| <mikeal> | jlord: any specific reason that sheetsee disables doubleClick zoom on maps? |
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| <mikeal> | i'd also love to know how you created such a stylized map :0 |
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| <mikeal> | i've been poking around the mapbox project editor but the best i could do was get the water to be the same color as my background :) |
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| <dominictarr_> | isaacs: you there? |
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| <feross> | dominic_, dominictarr_: check it out: https://github.com/feross/cyberhobo |
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| <feross> | “Offline git push and npm publish for cyberhobos” |
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| <dominic_> | feross: already reading the code |
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| <feross> | it’s really basic and i really have no idea if it will work |
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| <dominic_> | I'm gonna find out |
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| <feross> | i think it might work for simple one-person codebases |
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| <feross> | for those of us who maintain our own modules and don’t have to worry about others pushing while we’re offline, i think it could work |
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| <dominic_> | I needed an animated gif that picture with lightning coming off my hands |
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| <feross> | dominic_: pull request |
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| <dominic_> | feross: the only thing is that it will be easier to test if there is a way to skip the connectivity test - assume it's offline |
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| <feross> | maybe —offline passed into any command could do that |
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| <feross> | it’s 3 am here though and i need to sleep |
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| <feross> | you could git clone, modify it, and just run “./cyberhobo.js git push” manually |
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| <feross> | dominic_: night! hope this module works out as I plan on using it too |
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| <dominic_> | haha, okay cool |
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| <dominic_> | night! |
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| <substack> | there are many intermediate states between "offline" and "online" |
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| <substack> | like "china" or "flaky" |
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| <dominictarr_> | yeah, maybe you are behind a captive portal that doesn't allow anything but 80 and 443 |
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| <dominictarr_> | substack: also 'techconf' which is only slightly about full blown offline |
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| <substack> | also! http://npm.taobao.org/ |
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| <substack> | when in china |
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| <dominictarr_> | it says that 40k packages are waiting for sync!!! |
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| <dominictarr_> | this is just not an acceptable state of affairs |
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| <dominictarr_> | haha, someone from linked in just asked me if I want to join a network of elite javascripters on linked in. |
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| <dominictarr_> | I told them we already had that on IRC, but if they where to open source linked in, I'll reconsider. |
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| <substack> | I don't know what linked in is for |
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| <dominictarr_> | apparently they saw my open source report card, and wanted to invite me to there elite javascript club |
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| <substack> | speaking of |
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| <substack> | dominictarr_: did you catch the discussion mmalecki and I had yesterday? |
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| <dominictarr_> | substack: you where working on a timetracking thing and invoice generator |
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| <substack> | yes |
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| <dominictarr_> | is this your cyber-daylaborer idea? |
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| <substack> | exactly |
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| <substack> | so the next piece |
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| <substack> | is a job board |
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| <substack> | but it will be very different |
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| <substack> | instead of submitting jobs to a public board, you submit them to individual hackers |
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| <substack> | and the jobs are ideally granular and describe what the software should do, not how it should be written |
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| <dominictarr_> | right - so this would be better for subcontracting than for end users |
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| <dominictarr_> | aka "business people" |
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| <substack> | yes |
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| <substack> | so anyways |
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| <substack> | hackers will get 2 kinds of job proposals |
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| <substack> | project descriptions and iterations |
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| <substack> | project descriptions are high-level project scope and requirements |
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| <substack> | those get broken down by a hacker into iteration items |
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| <substack> | and when a hacker gets a description or an iteration they can do: |
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| <substack> | * accept the job for themselves |
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| <substack> | * refer the job to another hacker who would be a good fit |
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| <substack> | * delegate a section of the work to another hacker they trust |
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| <substack> | * promote the job to the public board |
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| <substack> | * veto the job completely |
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| <substack> | kind of like the actor model |
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| <substack> | hackers crunch away at the requirements racking up billable hours with clocker that are fed into invoicing scripts |
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| <substack> | and then businessfolk cut the checks |
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| <substack> | and the system would demand and ensure certain freedoms like the ability to publish any pieces as reusable components whenever hackers see fit |
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| <dominictarr_> | right |
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| <dominictarr_> | how will you handle maitainance? |
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| <substack> | not sure yet |
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| <substack> | but that is mostly handled by full-timers |
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| <dominictarr_> | could you predict/estimate the need for maintainance? |
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| <dominictarr_> | like, add some extra bit that your system holds in escrow, that is not paid out until the maintance is done? |
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| <dominictarr_> | and assume a exponential decay depending on how much effort the initial outlay is? |
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| <substack> | I wouldn't handle any of the money things, only invoice generation and coordination |
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| <dominictarr_> | oh right okay |
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| <dominictarr_> | substack: it's definately good to be able to do professionally the stuff your best at, and leave the other stuff out. |
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| <dominictarr_> | so you can get into an interesting niche |
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| <substack> | I mostly just want people to have the opportunity to have low-investment money when they need it so they can spend the rest of their time doing whatever they want |
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| <substack> | a money pump to subsidize mad science |
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| <substack> | work a few hours a week, get by |
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| <substack> | we're right on the cusp of widespread augmented reality anyways |
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| <substack> | so that you can hack your surroundings with data instead of physical items |
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| <calvinmetcalf> | substack: halting states ftw |
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| <jesusabdullah> | https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en?hl%3Den#!topic/nodejs/Jf6zI4zXH7A ahahahaha |
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| <jesusabdullah> | substack: ^^ |
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| <substack> | need more java -> js transpilers clearly |
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| <gildean> | substack: only if you want to write applications in a clean and elegant manner |
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| <jesusabdullah> | :D :D |
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| <pfraze> | kind of an interesting concept if it performs well |
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| <mikeal> | jlord: how did you get the street map data layer out of your map? |
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| <mikeal> | i'm in their editor and i can't see how to get it out |
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| <mikeal> | i think i figured it out, TileMill |
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| <isaacs> | ircretary: tell dominictarr pong |
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| <ircretary> | isaacs: I'll be sure to tell dominictarr |
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| <jesusabdullah> | nexxy: police car?? You're okay? |
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| <nexxy> | yeah |
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| <nexxy> | wife witnessed an almost murder scene |
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| <nexxy> | down on the break waters |
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| <jesusabdullah> | jesus that's nuts |
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| <mikeal> | crazy |
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| <nexxy> | 'almost' in the sense that it turns out a fisher just caught a giant sting ray and cut its fins off |
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| <jesusabdullah> | Glad you weren't in trouble or anything tho |
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| <nexxy> | but we didn't learn that until we were in the company of over a dozen police |
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| <nexxy> | and EMS |
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| <nexxy> | it was sad either way |
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| <mikeal> | where are the break waters? |
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| <nexxy> | and pretty traumatizing |
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| <nexxy> | mikeal, just outcropping of rocks into the ocean |
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| <nexxy> | with cement poured over them |
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| <nexxy> | like jettys |
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| <jesusabdullah> | not a fan of fishing nexxy ? |
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| <mikeal> | near you house |
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| <nexxy> | https://www.google.com/maps/@37.767625,-122.293979,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m5!1e2!3m3!1s32814482!2e1!3e10 |
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| <nexxy> | mikeal, yeah |
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| <nexxy> | ^ that is like a block from our house |
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| <jesusabdullah> | you live in alameda nexxy ? |
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| <nexxy> | yeah |
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| <jesusabdullah> | I think my friend miah lives near you |
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| <jesusabdullah> | neat |
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| <nexxy> | ohh |
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| <nexxy> | yeah I have miah on twitter |
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| <nexxy> | mikeal, I have a question for you actually |
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| <nexxy> | can I PM you? |
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| <mikeal> | sure |
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| <jesusabdullah> | cool nexxy, she was one of the first people I met in SF, made me feel welcome |
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| <nexxy> | awesome! I should meet her sometime |
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| <jesusabdullah> | Yeah totes |
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| <thlorenz> | feross: does cyberhobo npm publish the code as it was when I executed the command initially? |
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| <thlorenz> | or does it just run it on whatever I have at that later point in time? |
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| <feross_> | thlorenz: currently it does the dumb thing |
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| <thlorenz> | thought so - couldn't find any persistence in the code |
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| <feross_> | but i’m hoping to improve it to handle these edge cases as they come up |
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| <thlorenz> | that's dangerous ;) |
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| <thlorenz> | feross: you could store things in level or so |
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| <feross_> | thlorenz: good point. i think i should just save the git commit hash |
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| <feross_> | and checkout the correct commit before running publish |
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| <thlorenz> | feross: another crazy idea: build a docker image with the command already set |
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| <thlorenz> | then when you run the container it'll run the command on the exact code that you had |
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| <feross_> | thlorenz: interestig |
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| <thlorenz> | feross: if interested look into dockerode or dockops - that should make it quite simple |
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| <thlorenz> | only drawback = docker only runs without hassle on linux (somewhat of a nuisance on MacOS) |
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| <jesusabdullah> | thlorenz: you can run it on osx? o__o |
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| <thlorenz> | jesusabdullah: yes via virtualbox |
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| <thlorenz> | jesusabdullah: I wrote a module that sets it up for you: docmac |
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| <jesusabdullah> | oh yeah |
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| <jesusabdullah> | oh neat |
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| <thlorenz> | so the client app is running on mac, but the server sits inside VB (it's all rest anyhow) |
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| <thlorenz> | but it's not as nice as just running it in linux |
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| <thlorenz> | so I have this vagrant thing that sets things up for me and then I just do 'vagrant ssh' |
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| <thlorenz> | jesusabdullah: this is the vagrant - just run it to give it a try: https://github.com/thlorenz/vagrant-sandbox/tree/docker |
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| <thlorenz> | it includes all my nifty setup like vim, plugins, etc. :) |
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| <jesusabdullah> | word |
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| <thlorenz> | jesusabdullah: oh and docker listens on socket, so best is to add vagrant to the docker group |
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| <thlorenz> | so you don't have to sudo everytime - gotta update the docs accordingly |
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| <thlorenz> | feross: I got it, just call `npm pack`, store the resulting tgz and then publish that later |
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| <thlorenz> | feross: https://github.com/feross/cyberhobo/issues/1 |
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| <feross_> | thlorenz: nice! will look into that after work |
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| <thlorenz> | feross: cool, will totally use it while coding on plane and/or park with lots of interlinked modules to not forget to push out these versions |
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