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00:02:37  <dominic_>maksimlin: sure! will do!
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01:08:12  <jjjohnny>dominic_: where did ur laptop get stolen?
01:13:03  <dominic_>wellington
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01:14:19  <dominic_>jjjohnny: from wellington - what it looked like, is that someone came in off the street and grabbed the first valuable thing they saw, then bolted.
01:14:42  <dominic_>there was a gap where my laptop was on a messy table, and none of my friends had touched it.
01:18:31  <substack>oh no!
01:19:31  <substack>dominic_: keep on eye on http://wellington.craigslist.org/search/sya?query=+ anyways
01:20:30  <dominic_>substack: in NZ everyone uses http://www.trademe.co.nz/
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01:22:53  <dominic_>substack: and too late because I've left NZ anyway. gonna downgrade to something that is less of a class distinction! a thinkpad
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01:23:47  <substack>trashy computers are great like that
01:23:51  <substack>you can get them used for cheap too
01:23:55  <substack>in good condition
01:25:52  <dominic_>rvagg: it looks like the google leveldown has improved considerably since you first ran those benchmarks.
01:26:10  <dominic_>it's now the fastest, and has the smoothest performance.
01:27:30  <dominic_>although - I will make these benchmarks easily runnable
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01:42:09  <jjjohnny>dominic_: all you need to do is sew your computer's components into your hobo overcoat
01:42:44  <dominic_>jjjohnny: perfect.
01:43:09  <jjjohnny>helpful in those cold climes
01:43:10  <dominic_>I'm looking for a suitable screen for a wearable though, that is the weak point to that particular idea.
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01:43:22  <jjjohnny>mine some coin to stay warm
01:43:30  <substack>dominic_: an overcoat made of castAR reflective material
01:43:59  <substack>doesn't ship til september though
01:44:32  <jjjohnny>i think i'm eventually leaning toward a pico projector type thing for the screen
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01:46:07  <dominic_>jjjohnny: yeah exactly - normally in scifi you have one thing mounted on your arm too.
01:46:08  <substack>you could be like that mormonism guy
01:46:19  <substack>the guy who looks into his hat to read the plates
01:46:38  <dominic_>people could do that with their "smartphones", but they don't
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01:48:08  <jjjohnny>a chestplate that extends, inside of which a screen
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01:49:02  <jjjohnny>and e-ink is the future of coding
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02:03:51  <dominic_>jjjohnny: I wish it didn't take so long to get usable DIY hardware though.
02:03:56  <dominic_>also linux drivers
02:04:17  <dominic_>... that is why it's so hard to run linux on a tablet.
02:04:33  <dominic_>maybe we need a testling for kernels/os
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02:05:32  <dominic_>you get stacks of hardware, boot it with various stuff, and then test it automatically...
02:06:08  <dominic_>hmm... you could do automatic tests of audio and graphics by generating/parsing QR codes etc
02:06:44  <dominic_>check the graphics work by presenting QR code on screen - then test harness scans that with a web cam
02:07:03  <dominic_>and vice versa - also similar for audio.
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03:18:44  <jesusabdullah>substack: I want to whine at you about the PRs I get. Come here.
03:19:09  <jesusabdullah>substack: I have a PR on ecstatic for changing typeof x !== 'undefined' && x !== null to use x != null
03:19:16  <jesusabdullah>substack: and one to .npmignore tests
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03:19:27  <jesusabdullah>substack: ugh
03:19:48  <jesusabdullah>Oh, it's not even .npmignore, it's the "files" directive in the package.json---ie, whitelisting
03:20:01  <jesusabdullah>I need to be meaner about PRs
03:21:40  <substack>jesusabdullah: just close them with "nope"
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03:22:00  <substack>"nope. nope. no no no no no. nope. not going to do that. nope. just... no"
03:22:28  <jesusabdullah>substack: lol inorite? I'm too nice.
03:24:15  <jesusabdullah>substack: haha, his last comment is, "will rebase soon". Best reply? "Don't bother." *close*
03:25:38  <jesusabdullah>substack: okay with slightly more tact https://github.com/jesusabdullah/node-ecstatic/pull/99#issuecomment-39925361
03:25:43  <jesusabdullah>substack: but only slightly
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03:29:40  <dominic_>jesusabdullah: don't .npmignore tests! one day a great hero will come and write a thing that runs all the tests on npm!
03:29:58  <dominic_>I HAVE PROPHETISED IT!
03:29:58  <LOUDBOT>COME HERE SO I CAN LICK YOUR TEARS
03:30:15  <jesusabdullah>dominic_: inorite?? It's like, how many times have I `cd ./node_modules/dumb_dep && npm test`ed?
03:30:20  <jesusabdullah>dominic_: A NUMBER OF TIMES
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03:30:52  <dominic_>that said, I will take a PR that fixes a typo
03:31:32  <jesusabdullah>Oh yeah, same
03:31:48  <jesusabdullah>Nah, the other PR was just, like, changed zero functionality and wasn't particularly more readable
03:32:02  <jesusabdullah>I would've rather seen that logic refactored into a helper function tbh
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04:51:41  <dominic_>rvagg: so, I'm doing a benchmark where I update a single key 10000 times with varing concurrency
04:52:33  <dominic_>And the total time taken _INCREASES_ linearly with concurrency - any guesses why this might be? threads?
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04:53:45  <dominic_>It's based on your benchmark where concurrency just means you trigger the async loops many times, and the async loop continues until the max number have been saved.
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04:55:57  <dominic_>I this was single threaded it would be flat, wouldn't it?
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05:03:10  <rook2pawn>anyone know of a way to throw errors in bluebird .then so they go to the domain error handler?
05:06:56  <rook2pawn>substack: https://github.com/rook2pawn/dsp-stream/tree/master/web-examples
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05:33:02  <jesusabdullah>wow I actually caused the spumko team to make joi work with browserify
05:33:09  <jesusabdullah>that's pretty sweet
05:35:18  <dominic_>rvagg: hmm, on further investigations (comparing to a pure js leveldown implementation) I see the same pattern - so may it's in javascript?
05:37:35  <rvagg>dominic_: try running it with a UV_THREADPOOL_SIZE environment variable set to some number greater than 4
05:37:55  <rvagg>dominic_: it's 4 by default, leveldown should try and use all of them, but if you increase that number via env var then you'll get greater concurrency
05:38:25  <rvagg>dominic_: BUT, google's leveldb isn't so fantastic with multiple threads, you should try leveldown-hyper to see how much it changes, they've put a ton of work into greater concurrency speed
05:38:29  <rook2pawn>dominic_: did you write domains-tragedy?
05:39:39  <dominic_>rook2pawn: no, I havn't used domains
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05:42:54  <dominic_>rvagg: hmm, doesn't seem to make much difference in my test.
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05:53:00  <dominic_>rvagg: hmmm... or maybe what I'm seeing is overhead in javascript?
05:54:49  <substack>jesusabdullah: yeah good work!
05:54:52  <substack>jesusabdullah: also this! https://github.com/spumko/joi/issues/233
05:55:20  <dominic_>oh no... I was testing totally the wrong thing!
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06:11:30  <dominic_>rvagg: okay it makes sense now!
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07:33:09  <jjjohnny>LOL
07:38:35  <dominic_>substack: http://edition.cnn.com/2014/04/08/tech/forget-wearable-tech-embeddable-implants/index.html?hpt=hp_c5
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14:01:49  <mikolalysenko>someday I need to audit all of my modules and upgrade everything to 1.0.0/^
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21:41:07  <dominic_>ircretary: tell mikeal that a good strategy for indexes is to recheck for deletes on reading the index.
21:41:08  <ircretary>dominic_: I'll be sure to tell mikeal
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