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00:08:44  <ogd>substack: how much traffic does the browserify github repo get? https://github.com/substack/node-browserify/graphs/traffic (page is private to everyone except you)
00:08:50  <ogd>substack: also how many referrals from browserify.org does it get?
00:11:18  <substack>20,743 views in the last 2 weeks
00:11:27  <substack>4,138 from browserify.org
00:11:34  <substack>5,123 from google
00:11:42  <ogd>nice, not bad
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00:14:20  <rook2pawn>so does anyone else work around 2nd and mission?
00:15:03  <rook2pawn>looking to improve my commute with fellow node friends on the bart to east bay
00:15:12  <defunctzombie>ogd: substack: at courseoff we use browserify for website and mobile apps!
00:15:37  <substack>defunctzombie: https://github.com/substack/node-browserify/wiki/browserify-in-the-wild
00:15:54  <defunctzombie>oooo
00:16:16  <ogd>oh we should probably link to that from the quotes thing
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01:03:31  <rowbit1>substack, pkrumins: These encoders are STILL down: 184.106.106.46(dev-ie8-1)
01:04:09  <jesusabdullah>substack: http://www.reddit.com/r/javascript/comments/20ttu2/gulpbrowserifyshimangularboilerplate_a/ Try saying this 10 times fast
01:04:19  <jesusabdullah>gulp-browserify-shim-angular-boilerplate
01:04:29  <ogd>lol
01:04:55  <jesusabdullah>I'm sure it's useful XD
01:06:03  <pkrumins>ogd: typo at browserify org: "all of it's dependencies"
01:06:11  <pkrumins>should be "all of its dependencies"
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01:07:40  <jesusabdullah>hahaha I kinda wanna see a project that's entirely dependencies
01:07:53  <pkrumins>you had one
01:07:57  <jesusabdullah>only require statements, function calls and configuration
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01:12:51  <rvagg>ogd: re workshopper, there's this thing now: https://github.com/rvagg/workshopper-boilerplate which can dump files into your cwd for you, containing whatever starting code you need
01:12:57  <dominictarr> jesusabdullah anticodegolf competition to build largest project that is only composing modules
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01:38:19  <defunctzombie>I had a revelation about packaging, specifically about version info
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01:38:26  <defunctzombie>I don't think it should go in package.json
01:38:35  <defunctzombie>but should always be in history.md or changelog file
01:39:09  <defunctzombie>that way after a release, you can easily add an "unreleased" line
01:39:24  <defunctzombie>and make the decision about major minor patch version when it comes time to make/tag the release
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02:07:49  <jjjohhny>PRIME ARITY TIME
02:07:50  <LOUDBOT>BECAUSE I DO WITH MY MELODICA PEOPLE ALWAYS THINK IM COOLER THAN I SEEM
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04:50:04  <feross>just published this: https://github.com/feross/zelda -- thoughts?
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05:11:17  <ogd>feross: re: https://twitter.com/feross/status/446509647436869632 so what i was thinking is maybe if you are in code/foo, which is a git clone
05:11:25  <ogd>feross: and foo has bar and baz as deps
05:11:40  <ogd>feross: if you did zelda inside foo it would clone code/bar and code/baz if they didnt already exist
05:11:57  <ogd>feross: and then maybe even delete foo/node_modules/bar and foo/node_modules/baz
05:12:04  <phated>feross: <3 amazing
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05:45:31  <feross>ogd: yeah, that might work
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05:52:24  <ogd>feross: it'd be interesting to see if the current zelda implementation (auto linking) is more intuitive to newbs than the one i' use
05:53:34  <feross>ogd: how do we test it?
05:54:59  <ogd>feross: if we make a 'how to write a module' workshopper for node school we can A B test it at node school events
05:55:19  <ogd>feross: but that is probably too much work
05:58:29  <substack>oh that would be rad
05:58:53  <substack>ogd: when do you want to start doing weekly workshoppers?
05:59:22  <ogd>as soon as npm inc gets their big table
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09:39:16  <jjjohhny>i
09:39:31  <jjjohhny>i'm willin to go down hard in the ES6 showdown if there is one
09:39:48  <jjjohhny>pull out the knife
09:40:02  <jjjohhny>the penknife, natch
09:41:02  <jjjohhny>a crowd rally can shut it down. bigger, more important legislation has gone unfinished
09:43:36  <jjjohhny>unless you consider the importance of javascript to the futreWorld to be pretty fucking great!
09:47:19  <rowbit1>Hourly usage stats: [developer: 0, free: 46]
09:49:08  <jjjohhny>DON'T GIVE ME A KNIFE, GIVE ME A PENCIL, STAT, IMMA USE IT TO WRITE && IMMA USE IT TO STAB
09:49:09  <LOUDBOT>MUST EAT BRAN FLAKES
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10:14:27  <jjjohhny>or are we gonna fork JS to run in anarchyOS where this no DOM, only the command line, files and servers and a window manager?
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10:19:07  <jjjohhny>hey guess what the DOM is a window manager
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15:29:04  <airportyh>defunctzombie: https://gist.github.com/airportyh/9666135
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16:46:34  <rowbit1>substack, pkrumins: These encoders are STILL down: 50.56.32.168(dev4)
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16:50:23  <creationix>Domenic_, is this typical Q usage or is it being misused here? https://github.com/openpeer/opjs/blob/master/lib/core/Contact.js#L50-L54
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16:52:57  <Domenic_>creationix: it looks inefficient at least
16:53:32  <Domenic_>nesting is generally only necessary when you need to use an asynchronously-retrieved value to do another async call
16:53:45  <Domenic_>and in this particular case everything is completely independent so might as well just do them in parallel
16:54:01  <creationix>right, unless of course there are side-effects that require the dependency
16:54:25  <Domenic_>yeah
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17:00:30  <creationix>Domenic_, does .then always return a promise
17:00:37  <creationix>or does it sometimes return undefined?
17:00:46  <Domenic_>creationix: always a promise
17:01:11  <creationix>same for Q.reject()?
17:01:34  <Domenic_>yeah
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17:39:43  <ogd>chrisdickinson: question re: raf, what would you think of a PR that added require('raf')(el, func) where func just does the equivalent of rafInstance.on('data', func) for you
17:39:54  <ogd>chrisdickinson: right now raf just takes (el)
17:39:55  <chrisdickinson>sgtm!
17:39:58  <ogd>chrisdickinson: kewl
17:40:23  <ogd>chrisdickinson: i think it looks confusing to have .on('data' to people who dont know about the streams api
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17:49:49  <ogd>chrisdickinson: sweet https://github.com/chrisdickinson/raf/pull/10
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18:56:15  <jjjohhny>what vim js syntax plugin should I use?
19:00:14  <jjjohhny>i am getting incomplete syntax HL
19:00:31  <jjjohhny>is it cuz im on an ARM chromebook>
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20:34:59  <jjjohhny>a cli csv to json tool pls
20:35:27  <jjjohhny>how am I gonn get errors on the top level csj-json module damn
20:35:38  <jjjohhny>such dissapoint
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20:55:34  <jjjohhny>yay
20:55:54  <thlorenz>defunctzombie: I suppose 'vagrant share' also works via local tunnel?
20:56:13  <thlorenz>for instance: http://rusty-reindeer-0715.vagrantshare.com/ accesses a server running on my machine behind a corporate firewall
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22:46:36  <rowbit1>substack, pkrumins: These encoders are STILL down: 50.56.32.168(dev4)
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22:47:20  <rowbit1>Hourly usage stats: [free: 26]
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23:25:16  <rvagg>... dominictarr: pong, where'd he go?
23:26:15  <rowbit1>substack, pkrumins: testling server winIE9 + chrome + firefox + opera + safari + all nightly (rackspace) is down!
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23:29:16  <substack>this is really rad http://hvnodeschool.awesomesauce.com/
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23:31:41  <ogd>substack: that is so cool
23:35:09  <substack>wow also this module: https://www.npmjs.org/package/phase-align
23:35:42  <substack>npm is such a candy store
23:36:42  <ogd>hah nice
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23:47:20  <rowbit1>Hourly usage stats: [free: 24]
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