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00:38:24  <ogd>feross: do you see the weird whitespace character in bittorrent-protocol index.js?
00:38:47  <ogd>feross: it caused an error in the chrome extension when i opened devtools for the extension
00:39:45  <feross>ogd: yeah, i see it
00:39:47  <ogd>feross: i think you just need to replace the weird whitespace character with a normal one
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00:42:09  <feross>fixed and pushed a new version of bittorrent-protocol
00:42:18  <feross>^ ogd
00:43:48  <feross>ugh, some tests are failing now because i pushed some other changes with the fix.
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02:25:35  <hoobdeebla>unfortunately i won't be at nodeaz tonight
02:25:56  <hoobdeebla>my mom is like 'you/'ve had too much tech this week'
02:26:58  <ogd>get your mom the facebook movie dvd and then be like
02:27:06  <ogd>DONT YOU WANT ME TO BE THE NEXT ZUCKERBERG MOM???
02:27:06  <LOUDBOT>I SHOULD WRITE THE SPECS FOR FARNSWORTH, BUT I DON'T WANT TO, ITS TOO DIFFICULT, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY SHOULD LOOK LIKE SINCE I'VE NEVER READ A FORMAL SPEC OF A LANGUAGE, GOT ANY IDEAS APEIRON?
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02:27:52  <hoobdeebla>oh shit, i posted this in ##stackvm, it was meant to be in ##phxtech :|
02:27:56  <hoobdeebla>:|:|:|:|:|
02:28:33  <hoobdeebla>i derp so much
02:28:42  <hoobdeebla>it's not even funny anymore
02:28:50  <ogd>its ok until youre in college
02:29:07  <hoobdeebla>lol
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02:37:06  <substack>hoobdeebla: do it aneeeewaaaay
02:37:07  <substack>sneak out
02:37:24  <substack>sneak out to go to hacker meetups that is some serious cred
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02:38:10  <hoobdeebla>in PHX for reference
02:38:24  <hoobdeebla>she was gonna let me go too
02:38:46  <hoobdeebla>but since #hackphx was this weekend and i was at it for like 16 hours, she's like NOPE!
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02:39:48  <hoobdeebla>but it's mlk day
02:39:55  <hoobdeebla>so i was gonna go
02:39:57  <hoobdeebla>:|
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02:45:15  <hoobdeebla>i'm trying to get her into coding as well
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03:29:27  <ogd>rvagg: can you show this as the default workshopper verification message? http://i.minus.com/izyuqbwYKNQEG.gif
03:30:34  <rvagg>ogd: need to use that lib that tmpvar made to render pictures to the console
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05:07:54  <grncdr>rvagg: is there a supported way to introspect which leveldown backend I might have?
05:09:00  <grncdr>see these commit comments for what I'm talking about: https://github.com/daleharvey/pouchdb/pull/1241#discussion-diff-9027458
05:09:59  <grncdr>I want to be able to ask the leveldown instance passed as `opts.db` to levelup whether it's ephemeral, or at least what it's name is
05:11:00  <grncdr>I know I could do `db.name` but that requires all leveldown backends to be implemented as named functions, (and never change their names) which I'm not sure if I can rely on that
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05:48:03  <owen1>any ideas why browserifying my js file doesn't display the youtube video? http://pastebin.com/6C15udET (it works without browserify)
05:50:18  <rvagg>grncdr: yeah, there's no real way other than some kind of feature detection
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05:54:06  <grncdr>rvagg: would you accept a PR that adds a property to MemDOWN?
05:54:56  <grncdr>maybe MemDOWN.ephemeral = true?
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05:58:27  <rvagg>grncdr: maybe .name='MemDOWN'?
05:58:40  <rvagg>I guess ephemeral might be helpful
05:59:09  <grncdr>.name already === 'MemDOWN' so I might just go with that...
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05:59:56  <grncdr>I can't really see there being a lot of competing in-memory abstract leveldown backends… :)
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06:04:01  <othiym23>Domenic_: a table of contents on the WHATWG streams spec would definitely not go amiss
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06:40:55  <eugeneware>owen1: I think it's because the onYouTubeIframeAPIReady function needs to be global. Add it to the window or global object I would guess.
06:41:11  <eugeneware>browserify will wrap the code in a closure.
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06:51:22  <substack>owen1: there are some modules to wrap youtube's terrible api on npm already
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07:01:53  <owen1>eugeneware: i'll give it a shot! thanks
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07:02:42  <owen1>substack: (: ok, i'll look for those if eugeneware's trick will not work. btw, what's the name of the package you wrote for mixing youtube with audio?
07:08:42  <owen1>eugeneware: works. thank you!
07:08:49  <eugeneware>hoorah!
07:09:07  <owen1>the problem i have is youtube is blocked in china (:
07:09:28  <owen1>i wonder if baidu/youku has crappy API as well..
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08:13:12  <juliangruber>dominictarr: you have 2 multiply implementations inside math-buffer
08:13:26  <dominictarr>juliangruber, yes. the first one is wrong
08:13:46  <dominictarr>because I wrote that before I knew how to count.
08:14:40  <dominictarr>I've only just learnt how to count, and am quite excited about it.
08:15:36  <dominictarr>it took me until I was 1e years old, I blame the NZ state school system, for never teaching me about the bitshift operator.
08:17:27  <dominictarr>juliangruber, the multiply that just uses shift and add is the correct one.
08:17:50  <dominictarr>ALSO NOTE: divide is only shift and subtract! long division is very easy in binary!
08:17:58  <juliangruber>dominictarr: i'm basically retarted when i have to work with bit ops
08:18:10  <juliangruber>yeah i remembered that from cs
08:18:36  <dominictarr>yeah, you need to rewire your brain a bit
08:19:07  <dominictarr>but you need that to survive when you leave dynamic forrest and enter crypto-cave
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08:51:45  <dominictarr>substack, this looks very interesting: cs.cmu.edu/~rwh/papers/tgcc/tgcc.pdf
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09:27:05  <dominictarr>all off a sudden I have an urge to build a 3d printable dogecoin atm that only takes coins.
09:27:25  <dominictarr>one quarter == 100 dogecoins
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09:59:40  <joates>the name of a product cannot guarantee the success of the product..
09:59:54  <joates>unless the name is "Doge" (the 1 exception :))
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10:33:04  <dominictarr>learning math on wikipedia is so fucking hard, because they don't link to the meanings of the symbols.
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11:14:30  <dominictarr>juliangruber, okay, math buffer now has power with mod
11:14:36  <dominictarr>still needs more testing though
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11:15:19  <joates>dominictarr: is there any info/doc about connecting a wallet addr to a github user acc ?
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11:24:48  <joates>dominictarr: (feedopensource) i just spoofed yr wallet :-P https://xtco.in/iteration/xtcrypto/funding-project/1PTAwipYpP63uNrcxfm5FewxRdZyar6ceu but still can't get the badge to render :(
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11:26:19  <dominictarr>joates, think it might be hardcoded in the regexp to match the feedopensource domain -
11:26:45  <joates>dominictarr: k.. i'll look thx
11:26:51  <dominictarr>needs to read that from configuration and put it in the regexp.
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11:29:51  <joates>dominictarr: actually.. i gave up the cross domain setup, i'm querying feedopensource.com but trying to get it to pull iteration data from my xtcrypto project.
11:31:46  <joates>.. which it does, but it's hanging on the rendered badge response (it timesout eventually).
11:32:08  <joates>*timeouts
11:33:08  <joates>dominictarr: i lied, i doesn't timeout !!!
11:34:41  <joates>dominictarr: link in 2nd comment ^^
11:49:26  <dominictarr>joates, do the api methods work via the command line?
11:50:10  <joates>dominictarr: yes but they return an empty array
11:51:06  <joates>dominictarr: hence this error -> Error: could not find iteration
11:59:16  <joates>dominictarr: it seems to me as if the wallet addr used in the iteration issue absolutely must exist in the dominictarr/feedopensource repo ??
12:00:27  <joates>dominictarr: i just can't see any logic in the code that would cause that :(
12:00:39  <dominictarr>yeah, it identifies valid iterations that have a link to the badge with the wallet you gave it.
12:01:03  <dominictarr>see here: https://github.com/dominictarr/feedopensource/blob/master/api/iterations.js#L8
12:01:40  <dominictarr>currently, you have to have a link to the badge on feedopensource.com
12:02:09  <dominictarr>but if you changed this it would allow stuff on your server.
12:02:45  <dominictarr>see here: https://github.com/dominictarr/feedopensource/blob/master/api/iterations.js#L45-L51
12:03:01  <dominictarr>if it doesn't match the progress bar regexp, it skips that issue.
12:07:11  <joates>dominictarr: can i add you as a collaborator on "github.com/xtcrypto/project" and you create an iteration issue ?
12:08:05  <joates>dominictarr: then feedopensource.com should be able to parse that repo.. correct?
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12:18:42  <dominictarr>joates, it won't matter whether I create it, it requests the collaborator list from github.com/xtcrypto/project
12:18:58  <dominictarr>so it will be the collaborators from that probject.
12:19:30  <dominictarr>okay relocating.
12:19:40  <joates>dominictarr: my wallet doesn't work -> https://github.com/xtcrypto/project/issues/1
12:19:51  <joates>..but yours does ??
12:20:05  <joates>dominictarr: am i being dumb ?? i don't get it
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13:21:15  <joates>rowbit: tell dominictarr ok, i got it working -> https://xtco.in/iteration/xtcrypto/project/1HcPJnizgeEUTQ6UC2brE2sHjHQKyWy8E8
13:21:35  <joates>oh crap, howto do a bot tell pls?
13:22:13  <joates>it's a diff bot isn't it
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13:44:02  <jcrugzz>joates: its ircretary
13:44:18  <joates>jcrugzz: thx
13:44:40  <joates>ircretary: tell dominictarr ok, i got it working -> https://xtco.in/iteration/xtcrypto/project/1HcPJnizgeEUTQ6UC2brE2sHjHQKyWy8E8
13:44:40  <ircretary>joates: I'll be sure to tell dominictarr
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15:28:05  <defunctzombie>thlorenz: when you ahve time, checkout that stack-mapper stuff
15:28:27  <defunctzombie>thlorenz: it actually is needed to fix a bug in zuul when dealing with traces
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15:29:41  <thlorenz>defunctzombie: waiting for you to fix the IE issues actually
15:29:46  <defunctzombie>thlorenz: I did
15:29:51  <thlorenz>once that's done I'll merge immediately
15:29:58  <defunctzombie>thlorenz: https://github.com/thlorenz/stack-mapper/pull/2
15:29:59  <thlorenz>ok :) didn't see a comment
15:30:14  <defunctzombie>last line of the comment
15:32:02  <thlorenz>defunctzombie: why'd you remove all the
15:32:05  <thlorenz>\ns
15:32:05  <thlorenz>?
15:32:14  <defunctzombie>cause that shit is dumb
15:32:16  <thlorenz>I need those so my test output is nicely structured
15:32:26  <defunctzombie>use a better test output tool then
15:32:30  <thlorenz>well, now it's harder to read the tests
15:32:35  <defunctzombie>I used zuul
15:32:39  <defunctzombie>and read them just fine :)
15:32:43  <thlorenz>ah I could pipe through faucet I guess :)
15:33:13  <defunctzombie>not my fault tap output is retarded :)
15:33:37  <thlorenz>ok went out as a patch
15:33:42  <defunctzombie>cool
15:33:48  <defunctzombie>thanks!
15:33:53  <defunctzombie>this will be good
15:34:00  <defunctzombie>I am gonna merge jasmine stuff into zuul too
15:34:06  <defunctzombie>so now we have jasmine support!
15:34:25  <thlorenz>saw that, but that's just sad :(
15:34:47  <thlorenz>the jasmine support I'd add would be 'PLEASE DON"T USE JASMINE ANYMORE'
15:34:47  <defunctzombie>hahaha
15:34:54  <defunctzombie>yea, I agree
15:34:57  <defunctzombie>but what can ya do
15:35:08  <defunctzombie>people are gonna use what they are gonna use :/
15:35:13  <thlorenz>yeah, I get it, you gotta please as many ppl as possible
15:35:21  <defunctzombie>also, if they have tests already written
15:35:28  <defunctzombie>this is important to be able to run those tests
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17:32:41  <Domenic_>othiym23: Raynos: sorry for being mia yesterday on streams stuff; was pretty sick most of the day. will be spending more time on it after work today.
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17:33:50  <Domenic_>In particular I need to do a comparison with W3C streams (https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/streams-api/raw-file/tip/Overview.htm) since we're having a phone call to try and converge the two specs tomorrow.
17:33:58  <Raynos>Domenic_: no worries. Couldn't work on it yesterday either
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18:03:44  <Raynos>Domenic_: feel free to ping when you have a comparison draft, ill review
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18:44:55  <owen1>i am trying to build a google handgout replacement using webRTC. is it even possible? even simpleWebRTC that is used by talky is not that great.
18:45:00  <owen1>(in terms of performance)
18:52:16  <jory>owen1: You might want to check out meatspac.es and the associated projects that it uses.
18:52:32  <owen1>jory: interesting. thanks
18:52:33  <jory>We don't stream the video, but it does get the webRTC up and running
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19:05:27  <grncdr>gah dem bikesheds
19:06:15  <grncdr>so many PRs go "here's a simple improvement" … "hey thanks! it would be cool if we also did $pet_feature"
19:09:31  <chapel>grncdr: what repos?
19:10:38  <grncdr>hm, actually I should just keep it to myself
19:10:42  <grncdr>sorry!
19:11:03  <grncdr>you can check my public GH activity if you really want to know
19:11:22  <chapel>grncdr: no worries, this is a great place to talk about the woes of OSS
19:11:23  <grncdr>also, it's not an observation about that particular repo, more about a general phenomena
19:12:53  <grncdr>I think I could spin it into an argument for small modules over frameworks / larger projects
19:13:10  <grncdr>because it never happens with repos that are mostly maintained by one person
19:14:05  <grncdr>it's always the PRs against some repo that covers a really broad use-case and have lots of contributors who might chime in
19:16:14  <grncdr>I think the large projects also increase the level of frustration I feel because I've always had to read a lot more code to figure out what the change I need is
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19:27:22  <pfraze>grncdr, maybe contributor rules? I've seen GitHub stick em right in the PR and issues GUI
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20:17:52  <thlorenz>substack: should we make a tools page that lists things like chrisdickinson beefy defunctzombie zuul and exposify?
20:17:59  <thlorenz>on the wiki I mean
20:18:16  <substack>thlorenz: sure, sounds good
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20:18:33  <thlorenz>ok, then I'll also explain how to extract source maps there
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20:20:56  <grncdr>hm, i just had a thought
20:21:22  <grncdr>has anybody done a test-watcher that instruments require and then watches the files that your test file required?
20:22:53  <grncdr>so like, if I my test requires '../somefile' then the watcher will re-run the test if '../somefile' (or any of it's recursive requires) change
20:23:16  <grncdr>I feel like I saw this somewhere, but I can't remember where, and now I really want it ;)
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20:33:11  <thlorenz>substack: https://github.com/substack/node-browserify/wiki/browserify-tools
20:33:27  <thlorenz>probably should tweet it and ask ppl to add more tools
20:33:38  <thlorenz>also we should link this from the Readme
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20:52:21  <chrisdickinson>ogd: i've gotta run to a meeting in like 10 mins, but in sideband mode i don't think you can/should suppress the flush packet on the main data stream
20:53:32  <chrisdickinson>in sideband mode each of the data streams is prepended with the incoming length + 1-byte for type, followed by the data; i think the flush packet might be part of one of the data streams
20:53:40  * chrisdickinsonwill think on it for a bit
20:53:47  <chrisdickinson>i definitely ran into this with my git stuff
20:53:47  <ogd>chrisdickinson: ah cool thx
20:53:54  <chrisdickinson>if that's wrong I apologize!
20:54:05  <ogd>chrisdickinson: another approach i was thinking might be possible is to dynamically create post-receive hooks
20:54:12  <ogd>chrisdickinson: but i havent figured out if thast possibl eyet
20:54:34  <chrisdickinson>on the server end?
20:54:37  <ogd>chrisdickinson: if you could comment on that issue it'd be helpful for other ppl who might be debugging
20:54:41  <ogd>chrisdickinson: yea
20:54:43  <chrisdickinson>will do
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20:58:57  <thlorenz>substack: https://github.com/substack/node-browserify/pulls/thlorenz
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21:03:09  <othiym23>Domenic_: I got partway through BaseWritableStream last night, but I'm sort of in the jaws of a bootstrapping problem for getting the tests to pass, so I didn't push anything
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21:22:17  <Raynos>othiym23: what you mean bootstrapping tests?
21:23:56  <othiym23>Raynos: if I'm testing pipeTo, I need enough of a WritableStream to have a dest for the pipeTo, so yeah
21:24:48  <othiym23>after I have a working BasicWritableStream, I'll probably create a degenerate version I can stick in the tests for direct testing without relying on the implementation
21:25:08  <othiym23>but implementing BaseWritableStream has taught me a lot about how writables work, unsurprisingly
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21:47:04  <thlorenz>mmalecki: just curious how do you do C on a MAC?
21:47:21  <mmalecki>thlorenz: with great deals of pain and suffering
21:47:50  <thlorenz>no seriously :) I'm using vim and check my stuff with scan-build
21:47:58  <thlorenz>about to dive into gdb
21:48:03  <mmalecki>oh. same here, vim + clang
21:48:18  <mmalecki>never heard of scan-build
21:48:23  <thlorenz>not having valgrind sucks, but hopefully that'll be fixed
21:48:29  <thlorenz>a scan-build is nice
21:48:52  <thlorenz>mmalecki: https://twitter.com/thlorenz/status/424952750410305536
21:49:18  <thlorenz>what else am I missing out on that a linux would give me mmalecki?
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22:01:54  <jcrugzz>thlorenz: use that instruments program
22:02:04  <jcrugzz>spotlight instruments
22:02:11  <mmalecki>^ that, this stuff's pretty neat
22:02:22  <mmalecki>thlorenz: but Linux has way saner fs layout
22:02:27  <jcrugzz>a gui for dtrace aint too shabby
22:02:28  <mmalecki>thlorenz: and you don't need to use brew
22:02:42  * mmaleckiis full of hate for brew right now
22:03:28  <jcrugzz>mmalecki: it makes me sad
22:04:18  <thlorenz>jcrugzz: I tried that, but it didn't work for me
22:04:28  <mmalecki>yeah. I think I'll get a Linux laptop
22:04:57  <mmalecki>cause every moment of fucking with C/C++ makes me miserable here
22:04:59  <mmalecki>ugh
22:04:59  <thlorenz>mmalecki: but you can always clone and make no?
22:05:20  <thlorenz>mmalecki: you can install linux on a mac I think
22:05:27  <mmalecki>thlorenz: yeah, except how much nicer is it to just `yum install imagemagick` and have working installation :) ?
22:05:38  <mmalecki>thlorenz: it's also privacy reasons for me, so not so sure about Mac
22:05:45  <mmalecki>anyway
22:05:53  * mmaleckigoes back to scanning PDF417's
22:06:02  <thlorenz>mmalecki: yeah that makes sense - I'm still waiting on the npm for C libs, but seems like it's not an easy problem to solve
22:06:10  <mmalecki>why did americans put so niche barcode on their driver licenses is beyond me
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22:07:05  <mmalecki>thanks Obama!
22:07:05  <thlorenz>jcrugzz: I guess I gotta read some docs about instruments like how to create a template and give it another go ;)
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22:09:19  <jcrugzz>thlorenz: how i used it was just find the compiled executable and type in the arguments i wanted to pass it in some menu
22:09:34  <jcrugzz>but yea its not very intuitive
22:09:57  <thlorenz>hm I just ran 'instruments' and it gave me all these options - one of which was a template I'm supposed to supply
22:10:21  <jcrugzz>thlorenz: well im still on 10.8
22:10:24  <jcrugzz>but when i open it
22:10:29  <jcrugzz>i just click "leaks"
22:10:39  <jcrugzz>under OS X -> memory on the left side
22:10:51  <jcrugzz>then choose target is where i find my executable
22:10:57  <thlorenz>oh shoot there is an app
22:11:05  <thlorenz>I never even tried
22:11:28  <thlorenz>jcrugzz: awesome will play with that tonite
22:12:33  <jcrugzz>thlorenz: enjoy the dtrace magic :)
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22:12:40  <thlorenz>I will :)
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23:27:12  <grncdr>substack: could you recommend a way to have async cleanup in tape tests?
23:27:34  <grncdr>monkey-patching t.end doesn't seem to work because it can be called multiple times :\
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23:28:06  <grncdr>and t.on('end', cleanup) doesn't work because it will start the next test before cleanup has completed
23:28:22  <grncdr>my specific use case is to restart a server for each test
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23:34:45  <grncdr>what I've been doing is patching a 'cleanup' method onto test, and requiring top-level tests to call t.cleanup() instead of t.end() when they are finished
23:35:04  <grncdr>it's workable, but I wonder if tape should support that workflow directly
23:35:07  <substack>function cleanup (cb) { ... }
23:35:19  <substack>I don't think it should. You can just use programming.
23:35:27  <substack>it's much more flexible for tape to not natively support that
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23:40:36  <grncdr>this is true
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23:44:37  <thealphanerd>hai guys :D
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23:56:12  <grncdr>hi
23:57:16  <grncdr>substack: just remembered the other reason I thought maybe tape should do it: if a test errors, cleanup won't be run
23:58:38  <substack>true, but that's also true if the process completely bombs
23:58:51  <substack>cleanup is good to run at the start of the tests anyways