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00:55:57  <defunctzombie>substack: can you publish browserify 2.36.0 ?
00:57:34  <defunctzombie>pkrumins: that page needs some styling love :)
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06:40:41  <dominictarr_>substack, &yet is feeding you! awesome!
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20:17:56  <mikolalysenko>man. I am really frustrated with the lack of latex support in github
20:18:04  <jesusabdullah>haha tell me about it
20:18:13  <jesusabdullah>what do you have in mind, particularly?
20:18:34  <mikolalysenko>I'm trying to put together some demos for my thesis proposal presentation
20:18:48  <mikolalysenko>but in doing so I have some modules that I wrote which I want to document
20:19:09  <mikolalysenko>but writing this document with being able to use subscripts/superscripts/integral symbols is really difficult
20:19:24  <mikolalysenko>err without
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20:21:18  <jesusabdullah>oh, yeah
20:21:25  <substack>mikolalysenko: add it to https://github.com/isaacs/github/issues
20:21:27  <jesusabdullah>mathjax or whatever would be sick
20:21:43  <mikolalysenko>substack: I actually opened this issue a couple of times
20:21:53  <mikolalysenko>in fact, if they just added support for base64 urls it would be enough
20:22:17  <substack>oh cool
20:22:18  <mikolalysenko>since then I could use this: https://github.com/mikolalysenko/texdown
20:22:24  <substack>what about this approach? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12502440/markdown-formula-display-in-github
20:22:35  <substack>using an external site to do the rendering and embedding images
20:22:40  <substack>oh also
20:22:40  <mikolalysenko>it works, but it is really brittle
20:22:47  <substack>you can use relative image urls in markdown files
20:22:57  <mikolalysenko>yeah, I've tried that but it gets ugly
20:23:10  <mikolalysenko>and you get a bunch of small image file dingle berries in your repository
20:23:19  <mikolalysenko>which you could move to the gh-pages branch...
20:23:45  <mikolalysenko>but then updating the document becomes nasty, since you need to check out the branch, rebuild, push, checkout master, etc.
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20:25:25  <mikolalysenko>also the other problem is formatting the images, some of the latex services default to white background black text which looks bad on npm for example
20:26:02  <mikolalysenko>it is also a shame google dropped mathml from chrome...
20:28:18  <mikolalysenko>in an ideal world you'd be able to write tex in markdown and it would compile it to mathml, which would work on whatever browser you like
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20:32:29  <guybrush>mikolalysenko: do you know about pandoc?
20:33:31  <guybrush>example 17 http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/demos.html
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20:45:23  <jesusabdullah>pandoc rocks btw
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21:16:53  <mikolalysenko>guybrush: yeah, I've tried pandoc. the real problem is the github workflow is kind of awkward
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21:31:28  <ehd>mikolalysenko: in which regard?
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21:45:55  <substack>jesusabdullah: a rocket ship?
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21:54:51  <mikolalysenko>ehd: the problem is basically the output from pandoc either produces an HTML document or a pdf file, which github doesn't display nicely like markdown
21:55:19  <mikolalysenko>or if you do turn it into markdown, you get a bunch of random junk images in your github project directory for each equation
21:55:53  <mikolalysenko>it would be better if you could base64 url all that stuff into your document, but github disallows those for some reason
21:56:10  <mikolalysenko>so really there is no easy way to add equations to a github markdown document right now
21:57:48  <ehd>are formulas you'd want to use in markdown usually single-lined?
21:58:52  <ehd>like, the input
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22:14:33  <defunctzombie>st_luke: I demand you not fix the bug
22:14:39  <st_luke>ok
22:14:39  <st_luke>np
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22:15:10  <mikolalysenko>ehd: usually yes, or I'd want to put them inline into text
22:15:27  <mikolalysenko>for example declare some map $f : \mathbb{R}^n \to \mathbb{C}$
22:16:04  <mikolalysenko>or write out an integral equation like, $\int \limits_{G} f(y) g(y^{-1} x) d \mu(y)$
22:17:00  <ehd>mh isn't there a webserver which turns those into pngs and serves them over a cdn? :D
22:17:14  <mikolalysenko>ehd: there are a few but they have problems
22:17:26  <mikolalysenko>like they tend to go down randomly, and they get slow
22:18:07  <mikolalysenko>so short answer is yes you can do that, but longer answer is that the results aren't very good
22:18:19  <mikolalysenko>also the equations they tend to produce are usually small/low resolution
22:18:28  <mikolalysenko>and sometimes have artefacts like bad aliasing around the fonts
22:18:52  <ehd>aww, meh :(
22:19:07  <mikolalysenko>if you use mathml or mathjax it looks way better and more professional
22:19:16  <ehd>also ![…](http://foo.bar.com/$x y z$) isn't too nice in markdown i guess
22:19:24  <mikolalysenko>well that's the other catch
22:19:39  <mikolalysenko>since you need to escape out all the tex characters using %s
22:19:51  <mikolalysenko>so it ends up still requiring a preprocessing step anyway to get it right
22:20:06  <mikolalysenko>(unless you can read escaped unicode or whatever)
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22:20:41  <mikolalysenko>so if you make the wrong sized image for the text it just looks weird
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23:07:07  <hij1nx>substack: is it possible to add to the module lookup path so that browserify knows to look in other folders for require('modulename')? i think i figured this out before maybe i forgot.
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23:24:04  <rowbit>Hourly usage stats: [developer: 0, free: 7]
23:24:04  <rowbit>Daily usage stats: [developer: 4, free: 1619]
23:25:33  <jcrugzz>:2b
23:25:40  <jcrugzz>fail
23:33:02  <hij1nx>jcrugzz: qa!
23:33:11  <hij1nx>:)
23:33:47  <jcrugzz>irssi totally needs to be more responsive to esc ;)
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23:43:25  <hij1nx>jcrugzz: have you tried wee-chat? its like irssi but a thousand time better
23:44:27  <jcrugzz>hij1nx: yea? ill have to check it out
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