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| <substack> | mbalho et all: http://dry.ly/full-streams-ahead |
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| <mbalho> | oooh |
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| <mbalho> | uses requirebin even ooooooh |
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| <substack> | yes! |
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| <mbalho> | dguttman: nice jorb |
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| <egradman> | yay dguttman |
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| <thlorenz> | mbalho: do you think we can get css support into requirebin? |
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| <mbalho> | thlorenz: sure |
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| <mbalho> | thlorenz: i havent figured out what the UX/UI should be for multiple files |
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| <thlorenz> | cause that is the only reason I put my d3-visualization on codepen - I needed CSS |
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| <thlorenz> | mbalho: it could just be tabs (assuming all your JS is just one file) js|css|maybe html |
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| <thlorenz> | html is much less important |
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| <thlorenz> | dguttman: funny we worked on very similar things at the same time |
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| <mbalho> | i was thinking JS + HTML only, both in one horizontal editor area but separated by a horizontal separator |
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| <guybrush> | also what do you think about supporting `require('git://github.com/me/foo.git#commitish')` in requirebin? |
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| <mbalho> | guybrush: needs to get added to wzrd.in first |
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| <thlorenz> | mbalho: yeah and include css in the html? |
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| <mbalho> | yep |
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| <mbalho> | thlorenz: the html would be the entire html source |
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| <guybrush> | but in general do you think this is a bad idea? if not i may look into wzrd.in |
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| <mbalho> | guybrush: not a bad idea |
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| <thlorenz> | dguttman: even the names are so similar stream-vi(s|z) |
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| <mbalho> | thlorenz: and then requirebin would just magically insert a bundle.js script tag at the end of the <body> when it runs |
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| <thlorenz> | mbalho: makes sense |
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| <thlorenz> | dguttman: here is mine in case you are interested: http://thlorenz.github.io/stream-viz/ |
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| <thlorenz> | dguttman: so I guess they are more different than the similar names would suggest |
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| <guybrush> | mbalho: oh actually now that i think of it defining the dependencies in a editable package.json would make more sense |
| 17:51:17
| <guybrush> | an idea: while you edit the JS-code in the editor it will update the package.json live |
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| <guybrush> | and you can set the dependencies yourself, this is also usefull when you want to use a specific version of a package in npm |
| 17:52:05
| <guybrush> | so you would have 3 editors: 1) html 2) js 3) package.json |
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| <guybrush> | so in the simplest case, one just edits the js and hits the play-button, which will use default html and automatically created package.json with all dependencies set to "latest" |
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| <thlorenz> | guybrush: if I only edit html it needs to update immediately since it can reuse the bundle |
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| <dguttman> | mbalho: thanks =) |
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| <guybrush> | oh right i didnt think the html thing through haha |
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| <dguttman> | thlorenz: wow, I even thought of using a z first |
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| <dguttman> | but for some reason went with "s" and it was available |
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| <dguttman> | went with that ;) |
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| <thlorenz> | dguttman: :) maybe I was a bit quicker with securing that name ? |
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| <dguttman> | funny thing is I didn't check z after I went with s |
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| <dguttman> | yours is pretty rad though |
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| <thlorenz> | I mean I just created this very recently like about 2 weeks ago |
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| <thlorenz> | thanks, I like yours as well, basically visualizes the chunk rate - super easy to understand |
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| <thlorenz> | dguttman: mine is a bit more involved since it visualizes streams under the hood, I'll have to write a blog to explain this better |
| 17:59:04
| <thlorenz> | working on stream-view as well which will allow you to visualize actual streams running on your server in order to debug bottlenecks and such |
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| <dguttman> | awesome |
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| <thlorenz> | dguttman: you should probably upgrade to streams 2/3 or at least have an alternative version, since people should probably move to that API sooner or later |
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| <dguttman> | thlorenz: yeah, you're probably right |
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| <thlorenz> | dguttman: you could try to see what happens if you just switch out through with rvagg's through2 |
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| <dguttman> | thlorenz: breaks the write example: http://requirebin.com/?gist=6843372 |
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| <thlorenz> | ah, weird - the link you sent me is using through though - better to use through2 there as well |
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| <dguttman> | think I'd need to specify object mode |
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| <mbalho> | substack: with lexicographic-integer if i do lexi.pack(123, 'hex') is there any way to convert the hex string into the byte array (e.g. output of lexi.pack(123)) so that i can use lexi.unpack(byteArray)? |
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| <thlorenz> | dguttman: yes do: through2({ objectMode: true}, ..) |
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| <mbalho> | i wish through and through2 were just one module |
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| <mbalho> | that masked all the complexity of streams2 in a simple interface that only worked on node 0.10 and above |
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| <thlorenz> | mbalho: actually after I looked into streams2 closer for my talk, I find them quite nice |
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| <thlorenz> | it's verbose, but much easier to implement them correctly |
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| <thlorenz> | mbalho: also in the far future we could deprecate through and then use that name for through2 |
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| <mbalho> | yea |
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| <thlorenz> | mbalho: I usually write: var through = require('through2') - anyways |
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| <mbalho> | substack: nvm figured it out, just gotta parse the hex pairs in the string using parseInt(hex, 16) |
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| <mbalho> | thlorenz: i just wish it was one module and not 2 modules :) |
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| <thlorenz> | mbalho: agreed |
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| <guybrush> | mbalho: basically the dependencies here could be put into another editable-field so one can change them before doing the request https://github.com/maxogden/browser-module-sandbox/blob/master/index.js#L63-L67 |
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| <thlorenz> | it could check for node version and or presence of readable-stream |
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| <thlorenz> | could be kinda confusing though |
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| <mbalho> | guybrush: yea totally |
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| <mbalho> | guybrush: i had planned to make the little dependencies box in the UI in the bottom right into a package.json editor but never did it |
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| <guybrush> | i will tinker around and send you PR's if i get something working |
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| <mbalho> | guybrush: so that when you require a module it automatically puts the version number of the latest release into there and saves it in a package.json when your app gets saved |
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| <mbalho> | guybrush: nice! |
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| <guybrush> | right |
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| <mbalho> | guybrush: jesusabdullah wrote browserify-cdn in case you have questions |
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| <guybrush> | but it should be updated maybe everytime you write something into the js-editor? |
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| <mbalho> | i guess every time you add a new require(), theres already an api that emits the list of required modules in there somewhere |
| 18:17:41
| <guybrush> | oh nice |
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| <mbalho> | it uses require('detective') to do that |
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| <thlorenz> | substack: reproduced browserify-circular bug: https://github.com/thlorenz/browserify-circular-bug |
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| <thlorenz> | checked in node_modules to make sure that this will always repro |
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| <nexxy> | WAT |
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| <AvianFlu> | OMG WAT DO |
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| <LOUDBOT> | ATHLONGS ARE THE NEW AMDG PROCESSORS THAT ARE GOING TO COMPETE WITH THE INTEL CUNTIUM PROCESSORS GEARED TOWARDS MOBILE PHONES |
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| <jez0990> | Domenic_: nice ljxs talk - I didn't realise things in that world were quite like that :) |
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| <chilts> | jez0990: are they up somewhere to watch? |
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| <jez0990> | chilts: mostly, I think http://2013.lxjs.org/conference |
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| <jez0990> | names are links to videos |
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| <chilts> | thanks :) |
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| <Domenic_> | jez0990: thanks!! :) |
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| <isaacs> | Raynos: yo |
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| <isaacs> | Raynos: this is lower latency than twitter, probably |
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| <Raynos> | isaacs: agreed |
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| <isaacs> | Raynos: so, yeah, for coffee, there's lots of great places. |
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| <Raynos> | sweet |
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| <isaacs> | mostly depends on how long you plan on sitting there. |
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| <isaacs> | i like modern coffee the best, and it's pretty near to 12th st bart |
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| <Raynos> | that sounds good |
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| <Raynos> | isaacs: any particular time work for you? |
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| <isaacs> | thursday? whatever |
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| <Raynos> | 2ish then ? |
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| <isaacs> | oh, i guess i have a thing in the morning |
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| <isaacs> | so, yeah, 2 works |
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| <Raynos> | cool. |
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| <owen1> | mmalecki: if i remember he uses lenovo x120e with debian + dwm. or something similar |
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| <tim_smart> | substack: https://gist.github.com/806984c3318abf04becf :/ |
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| <tim_smart> | That's a lot for an eventemitter |
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| <mbalho> | i get 253 822 7508 |
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| <mbalho> | browserify 2.29.1, node 0.10.18 |
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| <tim_smart> | mbalho: 2.34.0 here |
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| <tim_smart> | mbalho: I get 253 lines on 2.29.1 as well. Must be a recent thing |
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