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02:21:18  <chapel>jesusabdullah: whats the drug?
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02:51:21  <chapel>jesusabdullah: you'd be surprised, can't say I'd know, but my gf has been on various meds for depression and similar
02:51:41  <chapel>mostly curious what would be limited
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03:51:00  <jjjohnny>jesusabdullah: is this a mental drug or a physical drug?
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03:51:57  <jjjohnny>replace drug with "syndrom" or "malady"
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03:57:36  <jcrugzz>most of those drugs limit the brain in some fashion :/
03:57:41  * jcrugzzdoesnt trust big pharma
04:09:50  <jjjohnny>i guess i meant is it intended for psychological effect
04:10:08  <jjjohnny>i dont trust bug pharma or the phychiatry industry
04:10:45  <jcrugzz>jjjohnny: yea the whole incentive structure behind it is a bit off
04:13:14  <jjjohnny>jcrugzz: i believe most psychic and bodily malfunctions can be healed without drugs
04:13:39  <jjjohnny>* herbs not included in the definition of drugs
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04:15:31  <jjjohnny>MASTER YOURSELF FIRST
04:15:31  <LOUDBOT>I WOULD LOVE TO EAT YOUR TOAST
04:16:35  <jcrugzz>jjjohnny: i fully agree, i used to be prescribed some of them drugs
04:16:49  <jcrugzz>and my memories from that time period are quite blurry, even the episodic memories
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04:17:51  <jjjohnny>also it is not well known that one goes through a mostly psychic maturation not unlike puberty in the mid-late twenties
04:18:57  <jjjohnny>and our culture of separation and disconnection exasperates psychic syndromes
04:19:14  <jjjohnny>but i am also a purveyor of mumbo and jumbo
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04:23:02  <jcrugzz>jjjohnny: according to who? ;)
04:24:41  <jcrugzz>jjjohnny: most people do not see reality at face value
04:24:53  <jcrugzz>and its difficult to
04:26:14  <jjjohnny>jcrugzz: and it becomes much harder to when the "official" diagnoses is: autism, bipolar, ADD, etc
04:27:57  <jcrugzz>jjjohnny: indeed, but its ok to take these drugs. society said it was ok
04:28:27  <jcrugzz>the rationalization -> the brain trap
04:30:35  <jjjohnny>TBH, I think austism is caused by a lack of affection, nurturing, sympathy, and rough housing, and exasperated by disabilities in communication
04:31:17  <jjjohnny>which disability is not the child's, but the parent and teacher and doctor
04:31:59  <jcrugzz>jjjohnny: i think thats part of it, but i still think its possible that there can be chemical imbalances of sorts. the approach taken to "balance" them just should not be drugs
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04:33:31  <jjjohnny>but: a lack of affection, or play, will have chemical effects...
04:33:53  <jcrugzz>jjjohnny: yes, environment is a huge underestimated factor in growth
04:33:59  <jcrugzz>and development
04:34:13  <jcrugzz>because we dont want to say people are bad parents
04:34:20  <jjjohnny>oh i do
04:34:33  <jjjohnny>i don't want to blame them, I just want them to know
04:34:56  <jcrugzz>yea education without major rejection is always the most difficult part
04:37:58  <jjjohnny>forgiveness is a part of that. forgiving oneself is hard, harder still if you think you bred and raised a child with "mental disoders"
04:38:53  <jcrugzz>jjjohnny: yea, the layers of self deception have to be stripped away, piece by piece
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04:42:51  <jcrugzz>i can picture the reactions people would give
04:43:04  <jcrugzz>thinking you were so insensitive
04:43:31  <jjjohnny>yeah but then I would tell it was true and then they would feel insensitive
04:43:48  <jjjohnny>and then i would share some my mumbo gumbo
04:43:57  <jcrugzz>good conversation starter
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04:54:05  <jjjohnny>If I was a child in today's world, and attended better schools, I would probably be pegged for autism.
04:54:35  <jjjohnny>I aint bragging!
04:55:50  <jcrugzz>its easier to label kids than actually see what their needs are (since different kids have different needs educationally)
04:55:59  <jcrugzz>the education system is just very 1dimensional
04:56:04  <jcrugzz>read the textbook
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08:53:43  <juliangruber>substack: I want to write a c transform that fakes anonymous functions, like https://gist.github.com/juliangruber/6682110
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16:01:53  <jjjohnny>Raynos: you still working at the lingo startup?
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16:36:19  <spion>some early stage thoughts while learning about BDD, TDD and how to apply them to databases effectively: https://gist.github.com/spion/6687314
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17:20:56  <Raynos>jjjohnny: yes
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17:32:07  <jjjohnny>Raynos: any desire to leave off and do something new?
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18:35:31  <Raynos>if something better comes along sure.
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19:18:04  <jjjohnny>Raynos: what's yr email address?
19:18:39  <Raynos>jjjohnny: https://github.com/Raynos
19:19:14  <jesusabdullah>Raynos only communicates through github issues
19:21:10  <jesusabdullah>jjjohnny: what was that web site you had that did livecoding with js again?
19:21:17  <jesusabdullah>jjjohnny: wasn't it a requirebin gist?
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20:18:15  <py1hon>substack: Have you looked at rust?
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20:21:10  <substack>py1hon: I've never written anything in it
20:23:00  <py1hon>substack: someone I was talking to on sunday was telling me about it
20:23:10  <py1hon>...it seems to have a lot of good ideas in it
20:24:44  <py1hon>curious what your thoughts on it are
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20:53:06  <jjjohnny>jesusabdullah: synth.fm but it is not exactly apparent how to use it (ask me how), or requirebin.com?gist=6093984
20:57:15  <jesusabdullah>cool
20:57:17  <jesusabdullah>thanks :)
20:57:58  <jjjohnny>eventually my synth.fm one will use browserify-cdn like requirebin
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20:59:24  <jjjohnny>other gists 6094039, 6094056, 6110578
21:02:48  <jesusabdullah>word
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21:04:48  <substack>jjjohnny: return Math.sin(time * 2 * Math.PI * (441 * Math.pow(2 + Math.sin(time / 4), Math.floor(time * 8 + Math.sin(Math.floor(time * 4 % 8) / 8 * time % 1) * 32) % 10 / 8)))
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21:08:42  <jjjohnny>substack aaaahhh thats amazing
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21:09:02  <jjjohnny>that's robot happiness right there
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22:04:40  <jjjohnny>jesusabdullah: how do you like your new gig?
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22:08:40  <jesusabdullah>jjjohnny: it's not bad! working on a thing right now
22:13:03  <jjjohnny>you like SLC? you ever seen SLC Punk?
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22:15:31  <defunctzombie>substack: ping
22:16:06  <substack>pong
22:16:31  <defunctzombie>substack: got a minute to take a look at a testling test?
22:16:34  <substack>ok!
22:16:49  <defunctzombie>https://ci.testling.com/shtylman/xrequest
22:17:03  <defunctzombie>that test fails for everything across the board for me
22:17:16  <defunctzombie>I am trying to make a basic ajax and cors test based on some of hte stuff we talked about
22:17:23  <defunctzombie>locally it works with the testling CLI tool
22:17:37  <substack>Uncaught AssertionError: "File not found.
22:17:48  <defunctzombie>hm
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22:19:13  <defunctzombie>substack: how did you see that?
22:19:23  <substack>defunctzombie: I clicked on some of the test results
22:19:36  <defunctzombie>I did too.. the IE ones and early chrome ones
22:19:55  <substack>it doesn't look like we set PORT anywhere in the testling runner
22:19:58  <defunctzombie>oh I see, some of the later ones have some other test
22:20:09  <defunctzombie>substack: did I mess up the test server or something?
22:20:28  <substack>nope, it's just a slight divergence in how the testling command works and how the testling server works
22:20:46  <substack>try running the server on a hard-coded port maybe?
22:20:53  <substack>like 8320
22:22:56  <defunctzombie>substack: I followed the testling server example
22:23:02  <defunctzombie>and I think it had that PORT env var
22:23:21  <defunctzombie>https://github.com/substack/testling-server-example
22:23:23  <defunctzombie>that one
22:23:36  <defunctzombie>I think
22:23:47  <substack>hmm
22:23:48  <defunctzombie>I recall at one point the stuff changed from hardcoded port to env var
22:24:03  <defunctzombie>cause there would be issues with hardcoded port and multiple servers?
22:24:09  <substack>there would yes
22:24:33  <substack>I'll try to get your test running locally, one sec
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22:33:21  <defunctzombie>in my module or otherwise?
22:33:44  <jesusabdullah>jjjohnny: I've not, but yes SLC is cool
22:34:23  <substack>defunctzombie: just in my local testling build
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22:35:16  <jjjohnny>jesusabdullah: its a kewl film, watch it
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