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02:03:14  <chrisdickinson>thlorenz: how did you make the gif for https://github.com/thlorenz/floodgate ?
02:03:38  <thlorenz>:) http://www.cockos.com/licecap/
02:03:44  <chrisdickinson>nice!
02:03:45  <thlorenz>it's very nice
02:03:48  <chrisdickinson>also, `cdl`?
02:03:51  <thlorenz>and free
02:03:58  <thlorenz>cdl is the cli for cardinal
02:04:02  <chrisdickinson>awesome.
02:04:26  <thlorenz>chrisdickinson: https://github.com/thlorenz/cardinal
02:04:32  <chrisdickinson>just installed :)
02:04:36  <chrisdickinson>great work!
02:05:11  <thlorenz>thanks, just the beginning - all part of making this stream visualization spike proper modules: https://github.com/thlorenz/nebraska-spike
02:05:27  <thlorenz>you can actually run it, but you won't get your cursor back ;)
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04:50:29  <jesusabdullah>AvianFlu: hello
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05:57:52  <guybrush>please upvote this issue https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=248987
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08:19:55  <mirkokiefer>anyone who can recommend a good browser library which just does dom binding?
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12:04:54  <substack>dominictarr: yo
12:05:15  <brianloveswords>substack: yessss
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12:05:36  <brianloveswords>substack: also, my buddy Atul wrote that tap prettifier: https://github.com/toolness/tap-prettify
12:05:44  <substack>hooray!
12:05:47  <brianloveswords>(cc isaacs ^^)
12:08:57  <substack>dominictarr: I'm out back near all the trash
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12:09:11  <substack>can't get on your wifi from the front
12:09:20  <dominictarr>oh nearly done
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12:19:10  <creationix>dominictarr, hey, I changed my proposed API slightly, want to know what you think
12:19:14  <creationix>(stream api)
12:19:23  <dominictarr>of course
12:21:08  <creationix>dominictarr, https://gist.github.com/creationix/5e44b03ec3e24e5daa05
12:22:32  <creationix>dominictarr, so all events are not the same interface on emitter functions, but it's still a pull stream
12:22:41  <creationix>and pull returns true if ondata was called sync
12:23:40  <creationix>*not/now
12:24:29  <creationix>one variation I have in mind is obj.ondata(fn) instead of obj.ondata = fn
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12:24:35  <creationix>but that ends up being a lot more code in most places
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12:27:30  <dominictarr>creationix: I can't really tell how it works
12:28:44  <dominictarr>how does pull return a value?
12:28:57  <dominictarr>you call pull and then it calls ondata?
12:29:11  <dominictarr>just like streams2?
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12:31:21  <creationix>sortof like streams2
12:31:27  <creationix>return just returns true or false
12:31:33  <creationix>*pull just returns..
12:31:41  <creationix>the data is always in ondata
12:31:53  <creationix>but pull returns true if it called ondata before returning
12:32:14  <creationix>I see I forgot a call to read in there
12:32:39  <creationix>and if you're not worried about stack overflow with a sync stream, you could always just call .pull at the end of ondata
12:34:48  <creationix>dominictarr, I'm about to hit the road to strangeloop (driving)
12:35:07  <creationix>but my wife is driving and I have lte on my laptop. I'll implement a larger example with this
12:35:12  <creationix>cat, merge, etc..
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12:41:08  <dominictarr>okay cool
12:41:24  <creationix>dominictarr, any comments so far?
12:41:30  <creationix>or do you need more context
12:41:35  <dominictarr>oh, creationix I think you really need abort on cat
12:41:46  <creationix>dominictarr, yeah, I'll have that
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13:36:04  <creationix>dominictarr: alright, I'm on the road. I'll implement cat and friends in the new interface now
13:36:42  <mbalho>\o cat and friends o/
13:40:23  <creationix>mbalho: :)
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13:58:34  <johnkpaul>when I use browserify with the require: true option, if I want to require a module from the browser CLI, what is my base directory?
13:58:43  <johnkpaul>is it the same as the entry file?
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14:31:44  <juliangruber>substack: I really need to start doing less serious/productive things again. could've been hit by the "burnout" everyone's talking about
14:40:58  <ednapiranha>juliangruber: don't burn out!
14:41:05  <ednapiranha>i almost had that a few times this year
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14:41:24  <substack>silly things!
14:41:56  <substack>johnkpaul: is that the same as -r ?
14:43:05  <johnkpaul>substack: b.bundle({require: true, debug: true}
14:43:12  <johnkpaul>I think that's the same as -r
14:44:04  <johnkpaul>I have a global require in my browser console when I add that option
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15:37:13  <jesusabdullah>juliangruber: ednapira_ I feel that
15:37:32  <jesusabdullah>I've burnt out just enough that I don't do anything interesting after $work
15:37:35  <ednapira_>jesusabdullah: juliangruber: i started learning spanish and running regularly.. like 10k every couple of days
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15:37:42  <jesusabdullah>daaang
15:37:46  <jesusabdullah>yeah I don't run for shit
15:37:47  <ednapiranha>jesusabdullah: i find learning a language really good
15:37:50  <ednapiranha>for programming breaks
15:37:52  <jesusabdullah>asthma like crazy
15:38:04  <jesusabdullah>ednapiranha: I read about forth last night, does that count?
15:38:06  <ednapiranha>same kind of logic for syntax memorization and grammar structure
15:38:09  <ednapiranha>lol
15:38:20  <ednapiranha>jesusabdullah: if you're ever bored or whatever check out duolingo
15:38:23  <ednapiranha>they do a really good job
15:38:41  <ednapiranha>only have french, english, german, italian, spanish and portuguese afaik
15:39:06  <jesusabdullah>forth is neat cause you can bootstrap a useful language in like, less than 1000 lines of assembler
15:39:17  <jesusabdullah>without even really trying
15:39:27  <jesusabdullah>it's like the bare minimum for an interpreted language
15:40:16  <ednapiranha>i wrote a parser for an interactive fiction game engine once
15:40:19  <ednapiranha>lol
15:40:21  <ednapiranha>if that counts
15:48:36  <jesusabdullah>oh it counts
15:51:23  <substack>johnkpaul: when you -r name:exportedname then you've got to require('exportedname') exactly in the consuming code
15:51:42  <substack>because require() doesn't have any module resolution machinery inside of it
15:53:56  <johnkpaul>substack: ah ok, so I can't just require any module from my browser console
15:54:53  <substack>you've got to export them explicitly
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17:03:40  <juliangruber>ednapiranha jesusabdullah: great hearing that I'm not the only one! I ironically dropped all the hobbys and other things to focus on programming
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17:04:06  <ednapiranha>juliangruber: break it up with other logic hobbies :)
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17:04:17  <juliangruber>ednapiranha: yeah :D
17:04:26  <ednapiranha>juliangruber: it's terrible. now i use garmin to track my running
17:04:27  <ednapiranha>and hiking
17:04:30  <ednapiranha>so it's all about the stats
17:04:31  <ednapiranha>:P
17:04:32  <ednapiranha>lol
17:04:37  <juliangruber>ednapiranha: I also like the idea of writing fun modules instead of focusing on production stuff
17:04:48  <ednapiranha>juliangruber: yep. quirky projects are fun
17:04:53  <juliangruber>ednapiranha: and algorithmic music also seems quite fun
17:05:05  <ednapiranha>juliangruber: if you can build quirky things and then share w/ friends to test/play with it together
17:05:18  <ednapiranha>it really helps with even the ux of your apis
17:05:34  <juliangruber>yeah right, doing things with friends...most of my friends in my home town drink and smoke
17:05:38  <ednapiranha>lol
17:05:44  <juliangruber>ednapiranha: yeah sounds like fun
17:05:56  <ednapiranha>juliangruber: are you going to realtimeconf?
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17:07:11  <juliangruber>ednapiranha: nah, can't afford
17:07:17  <juliangruber>maybe next year!
17:07:38  <juliangruber>should have reacted to the cfp :D
17:08:23  <ednapiranha>juliangruber: i couldn't go to jsconfeu
17:08:30  <ednapiranha>but i heard it was awesome! :) did you have a good time?
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17:09:01  <juliangruber>ednapiranha: i wasn't at jsconf
17:09:13  <juliangruber>but I was at nodeconfeu and spoke to some of your mozilla folks :)
17:09:19  <juliangruber>who were pretty awesome
17:09:20  <ednapiranha>oops
17:09:23  <ednapiranha>nodeconfeu
17:09:28  <ednapiranha>nice!
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17:12:32  <johnkpaul>substack: you mean export reach individual module explicitly inside the module, or in the browserify build script?
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17:45:05  <trevnorris>mbalho: yeah. np. there are still some performance things I can do, and it still doesn't support file streams.
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18:01:16  <ednapiranha>anyone here work on winston?
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18:19:38  <jesusabdullah>ednapiranha: no but I used to, what's up?
18:19:56  <ednapiranha>jesusabdullah: a colleague of mine was having some issues integrating it w/ his logging needs
18:20:06  <jesusabdullah>ednapiranha: lol sounds about right
18:20:18  <ednapiranha>and he wasn't sure about the specifics of how winston handled certain technicalities :)
18:20:27  <ednapiranha>so i was hoping someone could maybe verify and add a comment? :D
18:20:31  <ednapiranha>i'll show you the bug
18:20:44  <jesusabdullah>sounds good
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19:20:42  <jcrugzz>anyone have experience rendering latex in the browser? say like for blog posts or something of the sort
19:24:50  <mint_xian>jcrugzz: http://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/ does.
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19:25:07  <mint_xian>Just for the math stuff using http://www.mathjax.org/help/user/
19:27:02  <jcrugzz>mint_xian: ahh ok thanks.
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19:40:33  <jesusabdullah>jcrugzz: yeah, mathjax is your best bet
19:41:00  <jesusabdullah>jcrugzz: for full TeX, HeVeA works relatively well, pandoc can also handle that kinda thing
19:43:01  <defunctzombie>pkrumins: substack: can you guys add an entry to the testling /etc/hosts that also routes to 127.0.0.1? something like: "foobar.localhost" or whatnot
19:43:18  <defunctzombie>so ajax requests can target http://localhost and http://foobar.localhost
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20:12:44  <substack>defunctzombie: I added a testing.localhost
20:12:53  <substack>want some more?
20:12:54  <defunctzombie>substack: nice! imma try it out
20:13:00  <defunctzombie>substack: I just needed one
20:13:05  <defunctzombie>so I could test the CORS stuff
20:13:07  <substack>oh hmm but that is only the server
20:13:37  <substack>much more tricky to do that on the browser machines
20:13:47  <defunctzombie>hm
20:14:01  <defunctzombie>actually… now that I think about it
20:14:06  <defunctzombie>I think I can do something fancier
20:14:17  <defunctzombie>I can ask the main web server for its ip address
20:14:23  <defunctzombie>and then use that in requests
20:14:48  <defunctzombie>that won't work only if the page is also served up by ip
20:14:52  <defunctzombie>which it might be
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20:15:47  <substack>I think it's running on git.testling.com
20:16:15  <defunctzombie>so when it serves up the client side js in a browser
20:16:23  <defunctzombie>what url does it open for the browser?
20:16:25  <defunctzombie>git.testling?
20:17:42  <substack>yes
20:32:40  <jcrugzz>jesusabdullah: thanks, helping out a buddy of mine who wants to post his research up in an easy fashion
20:33:29  <jcrugzz>i was looking for a way to possibly render it to html server side, but it doesnt seem like that exists currently
20:33:38  <jcrugzz>if it does, that would be ideal
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20:34:00  <jcrugzz>preferably in node of course
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20:35:50  <AvianFlu>OMG MAH NODEZ R INTEROPERATIN' SLOWER THAN EXPECTED
20:35:50  <LOUDBOT>I LIKED MACS BEFORE THEY WERE MAINSTREAM
20:36:10  <AvianFlu>I ALWAYS KNEW LOUDBOT WAS SECRETLY A HIPSTER
20:36:10  <LOUDBOT>THERE WAS THIS ONE DICK THAT WOULDN'T STAY LICKED
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20:37:31  <jesusabdullah>jcrugzz: HeVeA
20:38:11  <jesusabdullah>jcrugzz: I kinda wanna have a blog site that embeds pdfs into the post part using pdf.js, but that sounds hard
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20:40:07  <jcrugzz>jesusabdullah: was just looking at that, can i just spawn that as a child process and have it do its magic and then output it to the browser?
20:40:38  <jesusabdullah>jcrugzz: I would think so
20:40:44  <jcrugzz>word
20:40:53  <jesusabdullah>jcrugzz: you'd have to check the man page, worst case some tmpfiles
20:40:56  <AvianFlu>check out substack's streaming html stuff
20:41:02  <AvianFlu>hyperspace et al
20:41:13  <AvianFlu>I bet you could get hilarious with that and some child procs
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20:41:27  <jcrugzz>AvianFlu: i think thats what im gonna do
20:42:36  <dominictarr>jesusabdullah: is there a thing to render latex on web?
20:42:59  <jcrugzz>dominictarr: http://hevea.inria.fr/
20:43:00  <jesusabdullah>dominictarr: mathjax can do LaTeX-style equations
20:43:09  <jcrugzz>i was gonna check that out
20:43:11  <jesusabdullah>dominictarr: hevea can render latex docs as html
20:44:11  <dominictarr>aha, cool
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20:47:15  <jesusabdullah>jcrugzz: I put my research docs in github repos---see https://github.com/jesusabdullah/anisotropy
20:54:58  <dominictarr>jez0990_: https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2012/10/when_will_we_se.html
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20:58:19  <jcrugzz>jesusabdullah: oh nice
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20:58:55  <fuz>hi guys, what sort of mad science is happening here?
20:59:03  <jesusabdullah>uhhhhh
20:59:15  <jesusabdullah>I'm on hiatus
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21:02:12  <jesusabdullah>AvianFlu: http://imgur.com/gallery/9duVHcx
21:03:11  <fuz>jez0990_, is this where you discuss alternative computing interfaces and collaborative tools?
21:03:46  <jesusabdullah>fuz: sometimes
21:04:00  <fuz>i'm the author of this: https://github.com/samsquire
21:04:03  <fuz>woops
21:04:06  <fuz>https://github.com/samsquire/ideas
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21:07:56  <defunctzombie>substack: could add a git2.testling.com or anything really that points to the same server
21:08:16  <defunctzombie>any name that resolves to something that will route to the server would work I believe
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21:11:11  <thlorenz>defunctzombie: I want to use the browser-resolve strategy to resolve sass files
21:11:46  <jesusabdullah>you so SASSy!
21:11:49  <thlorenz>do you thinkg we could pull out a more generic module here that browser-resolve uses? and then the one I'm writing?
21:11:52  <thlorenz>jesusabdullah: :)
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21:13:29  <thlorenz>defunctzombie: in my case I'd look for sass-main or so in the package.json which I'd resolve and import
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21:16:25  <defunctzombie>thlorenz: take a look at npm-css
21:16:34  <thlorenz>cool, thanks
21:16:45  <defunctzombie>thlorenz: it will show you how I did it for generic css files
21:17:04  <defunctzombie>the more generic module that does what you want is resolve
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21:17:24  <thlorenz>to be clear, I want to be able to walk my module deps and include the sass/css that they include
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21:17:58  <defunctzombie>yea
21:18:03  <thlorenz>npm-css looks like it just works with paths, not packages ?
21:18:17  <defunctzombie>it does packages too
21:18:23  <defunctzombie>you can @import "module-name"
21:18:37  <defunctzombie>and it will include the css file specified by "package.json:style" field
21:18:38  <thlorenz>cool - will have a closer look
21:18:44  <defunctzombie>I need to make that readme better
21:18:54  <defunctzombie>the way I use it typically is for stuff like clock-input
21:18:56  <defunctzombie>or ios-overlay
21:19:00  <defunctzombie>I have a widgets.css file
21:19:08  <defunctzombie>which only has @import for the widgets I want to use
21:19:29  <thlorenz>still, shouldn't we pull out some common resolve functionality here?
21:19:32  <defunctzombie>that way I don't mess with preprocessor stuff for that
21:19:39  <thlorenz>i.e. resolve any 'foo's in all the package.jsons
21:19:40  <defunctzombie>it is all there in the resolve module
21:20:20  <defunctzombie>the thing is that for style files you only need one
21:20:29  <defunctzombie>so it isn't like browser-resolve where there is overriding things and such
21:20:43  <defunctzombie>so resolve is what you want
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21:20:49  <thlorenz>ah. got it so https://github.com/substack/node-resolve IS the common functionality
21:21:00  <defunctzombie>yep
21:21:05  <thlorenz>thanks
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23:08:27  <niftylettuce>front page of HN "Show HN: Complete Linux Mint (Ubuntu) Setup for Node.js Developers"
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23:29:28  <defunctzombie>Raynos: iirc you use less. Do you use any middleware to compile on the go?
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