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00:02:33  <mbalho>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_invented_here
00:02:37  <mbalho>ughh i hate that term
00:02:45  <mbalho>lets coin a new term that describes the problem more accurately
00:03:00  <mbalho>and probably we'll need to rewrite the wiki article
00:04:21  <mikolalysenko>lol
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00:15:40  <ralphtheninja>I need an ajax uploader that can be browserified, any suggestions?
00:16:00  <ralphtheninja>i.e. I want to get it from npm :)
00:16:50  <mbalho>sooo wookiehangover and i hacked on the low level part a while ago https://github.com/wookiehangover/domnode-filestream
00:16:55  <mbalho>but it needs a new maintainer/rewrite
00:17:06  <mbalho>for turning html5 filereader into a stream
00:17:15  <mbalho>then you can pipe it to a xhr stream module
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00:20:59  <ralphtheninja>thanks!
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04:37:56  <rvagg>mbalho: those colours from minecraft -- are you pre-rendering blocks with a single colour and then texturing them after the fact?
04:38:58  <mbalho>rvagg: https://github.com/maxogden/minecraft-blockinfo/blob/master/index.js#L156 https://github.com/maxogden/blockplot/blob/master/js/voxel.js#L45
04:39:11  <mbalho>and then https://github.com/maxogden/blockplot/blob/master/js/voxel.js#L78-L79
04:40:02  <rvagg>and then ... ? does it move beyond flatColor?
04:40:19  <mbalho>oh sorry misunderstood your question
04:40:28  <mbalho>in this case im not loading the textures
04:40:49  <rvagg>ah, ok
04:40:57  <mbalho>its mostly an aesthetic choice
04:41:03  <mbalho>also minor perf benefits
04:42:03  <mbalho>basically it greatly simplifies things when you dont have to serve a shit ton of PNGs
04:42:59  <mbalho>cause its like: step 1: install voxel-engine. step 2: manually download textures and put them in a publicly accessible route in your web server. step 3: set the textures path in the voxel-engine contructor options to point to your textures endpoint
04:43:30  <mbalho>but now i can do things like automatically use those flat colors if no textures are specified
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04:44:00  <rvagg>righto
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04:54:37  <rvagg>rpc but with the ability to wrap streams from calls, has anyone done such a crazy thing? like, you could call fs.createReadStream() where `fs` is your rpc connection and you get a stream that feeds back from the remote.
04:55:45  <rvagg>.. and the remote would be connected via some kind of stream too of course, so streams within streams and without clobbering the ability to perform other non-stream operations and also possibly have multiple streams multiplexted simultaneously
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07:04:35  <jesusabdullah>mbalho: npm publish stream cache busting logic pushed to browserify-cdn master
07:04:46  <jesusabdullah>mbalho: would like to see it working reasonably in prod before I publish
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09:59:07  <niftylettuce>woooo #stackvm is on the front page of Gittip! reppp!
09:59:33  <niftylettuce> Check it out substack paul_irish /cc whit537 http://gittip.com
10:03:25  <niftylettuce> http://nodei.co is pretty dope
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12:07:24  <whit537>:-)
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16:18:37  <mbalho>jesusabdullah: sweet
16:20:03  <jesusabdullah>mbalho: yeah lemme know how it works out, preliminary testing shows it behaves itself but, yeah!
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17:49:32  <mbalho>just wrote this section https://github.com/maxogden/art-of-node#client-side-development-with-npm
17:49:40  <rch>heh nice
17:49:41  <mbalho>what else should I say in there?
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17:51:20  <rch>it does feel like there could be more there considering how different this approach is than anything else
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17:51:43  <mbalho>yea agreed
17:52:06  <mbalho>explaining all the benefits in a succint way is challenging
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17:52:53  <rch>i will think about it but i'm not sure i can figure it out
17:53:19  <calvinfo>wow requirebin is sweet, nice work
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17:57:35  <rch>i love simple ideas that mystify me with their implications
17:58:32  <substack>it's just the same as server-side development has been since cpan
17:59:44  <rch>definitely a little different because the way the browser loads the modules is more dynamic than a one-time install of a cpan package, but yeah i see your point
18:02:39  <mikolalysenko>rch: once you use browserify, it is the same though
18:02:53  <mikolalysenko>besides, dynamically loading libraries in the browser is kind of a bad idea anyway
18:03:06  <rch>real neat though
18:04:15  <mikolalysenko>mbalho: awesome, I hope that this gets more people to switch over to using commonjs/npm for the client side modules
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18:09:47  <mbalho>yea me too, though i feel we still need more blog posts/content etc
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18:16:53  <isaacs>Raynos: check out what this test does: https://github.com/isaacs/node/blob/streams3/test/simple/test-stream3-pause-then-read.js
18:17:48  <isaacs>i guess it should do more read() calls before piping, just to prove everything works consistently
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18:20:04  <Raynos>isaac: in the on('data')
18:20:18  <Raynos>you don't call resume
18:20:58  <Raynos>I would assume that the stream is paused
18:21:01  <Raynos>until you call pipe
18:21:07  <Raynos>and even when calling read() it stays paused
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18:22:14  <Raynos>isaac: https://github.com/isaacs/node/blob/streams3/test/simple/test-stream3-pause-then-read.js#L96
18:22:26  <Raynos>should you pause the readable in the finish handler?
18:22:29  <Raynos>or does unpipe pause ?
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18:25:33  <isaacs>Raynos: if a stream has not been explicitly paused, then adding a data listener starts the flow.
18:25:46  <isaacs>Raynos: if a stream is unpiped, and there are no data listeners, then that pauses, yes.
18:25:58  <Raynos>isaacs: I guess you need auto resume in on("data") to not break back compat
18:26:20  <isaacs>Raynos: yeah
18:26:25  <isaacs>if you add a listener, then you want the data.
18:26:26  <isaacs>presumably
18:26:29  <Raynos>isaacs: why do you have to manually pause after read()
18:26:43  <Raynos>https://github.com/isaacs/node/blob/streams3/test/simple/test-stream3-pause-then-read.js#L74
18:27:03  <isaacs>Raynos: removing a data listener doesn't re-pause, that's why
18:27:05  <Raynos>it would be more consistent if removeListener pauses when there are no data listeners
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18:28:05  <Raynos>thlorenz: ?
18:28:14  <thlorenz>Raynos: guess not then
18:28:16  <isaacs>Raynos: yeah, i guess that would actually make the unpipe() pausing kind of unnecessary, evn
18:28:26  <isaacs>Raynos: since it would remove the data listener, and tha'ts where it would be done.
18:28:29  <isaacs>Raynos: good idea :)
18:28:32  <Raynos>isaacs: yes :)
18:28:39  <Raynos>and then pause / resume for flow vs pull state
18:28:40  <Raynos>is implicit
18:28:57  <thlorenz>Raynons: running into problems using Transform on a 0.10 stream, was looking for help
18:29:18  <Raynos>flow interactions ( on("data") ) will resume, flow uninteractions ( removeListener("data") ) will pause
18:30:02  <Raynos>isaacs: btw read() doesn't have to emit 'data'
18:30:19  <Raynos>you could just make on('data') call read (or resume calls read() ) and they emit the result of read() as 'data' events
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18:30:54  <thlorenz>Raynos: isaacs: Using Transform: I had to override _flush b/c otherwise stream was ended prematurely and now I'm getting 'no writecb in Transform class'
18:31:10  <Raynos>thlorenz: did you call the _flush callback ?
18:31:21  <thlorenz>yep, but with a timeout
18:31:35  <thlorenz>hack to keep stream from ending prematurely
18:32:00  <thlorenz>Raynos: I ran into this: https://gist.github.com/thlorenz/6031386
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18:32:22  <thlorenz>the _flush thing prevents that error from occurring, but now I get the other one :)
18:33:54  <isaacs>Raynos: actualy, read() emitting data IS what has to happen
18:34:10  <isaacs>Raynos: becuase i want to add a 'data' listener to passively observe, but still use the stream in streams2 mode.
18:34:38  <isaacs>Raynos: function progressBar(stream) { stream.on('data', function(c) { updateProgressBar(c) }); stream.pause(); }
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18:36:07  <Raynos>isaacs: if you add 'data' it calls resume() right ?
18:36:19  <Raynos>isaacs: oh wait
18:36:37  <Raynos>you want a paused stream which is read() from to emit data events so that data event listeners get them
18:36:44  <isaacs>;yes
18:36:45  <Raynos>isaacs: thats just ._.
18:37:10  <isaacs>that's just a very common use cse that people are currently upset that streams2 broke.
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18:46:04  <isaacs>Raynos: actually, i'm not sure i like the "removeListener('data')->pause()" angle
18:46:13  <isaacs>Raynos: it's a kinda weird semantic addition
18:46:32  <isaacs>Raynos: streams2 already added "unpipe()->pause()" semantics
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20:06:57  <mbalho>substack: http://www.ctheroux.com/2012/08/a-step-by-step-guide-to-setup-a-bluetooth-keyboard-and-mouse-on-the-raspberry-pi/
20:09:05  <mbalho>substack: 04-0C-CE-E0-3C-77
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21:44:26  <mbalho>substack: http://bluecove.org/bluecove-examples/bluecove-tester/bluecove-tester-app.jar
21:44:31  <mbalho>substack: then run java -jar bluecove-tester-app.jar
21:44:46  <mbalho>substack: you might have to do java -d32 -jar bluecove-tester-app.jar to force 32 bit mode
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22:09:11  <chrisdickinson>anyone know of any streaming javascript parsers?
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22:33:14  <isaacs>chrisdickinson: there's a few in the node stream api doc
22:33:36  <chrisdickinson>ah, to parse javascript into AST nodes?
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22:40:58  <isaacs>chrisdickinson: oh, haha, no. i thought oyu meant a streaming parser in js
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22:49:15  <mikolalysenko>is there an api for google scholar?
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