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00:15:25  <Raynos>jcrugzz: well I do want to solve the web problem and trying haskell is going to be an oppurtunity for a fresh look
00:15:38  <Raynos>so painful at first then enlightment
00:17:10  <st_luke>you can do erlang next
00:18:40  <jcrugzz>Raynos: perspective is always nice. you posting it up when your done? id like to see what haskell land looks like
00:19:03  <Raynos>st_luke: I dont have any evidence erlang solves the problem
00:19:19  <Raynos>elm gives me evidence that haskell has unique solutions to the problem ( http://elm-lang.org/ )
00:19:20  <st_luke>Raynos: it solves the masochism problem
00:20:30  <jcrugzz>st_luke: erlang does look painful
00:20:35  <jcrugzz>on the eyes
00:20:53  <Raynos>jcrugzz: this is a really good video about applying haskell to web ( http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/29330499 )
00:21:14  <jcrugzz>ah interesting.
00:21:23  <jcrugzz>Raynos: thanks
00:24:37  <Raynos>jcrugzz: once you've digested it I managed to port the demo to JS as a proof of concept ( https://github.com/Raynos/graphics/blob/master/examples/full/mario.js ). graphics is very rough but it shows the haskell ideas can be applied to javascript based web
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00:26:33  <jcrugzz>Raynos: ah yea i remember seeing that demo
00:26:55  <jcrugzz>but that was before i actually understood javascript
00:27:41  <jcrugzz>but the journey never ends
00:30:58  <Raynos>jcrugzz: what do you use for web stack?
00:32:13  <jcrugzz>Raynos: well i work for nodejitsu so its all that node stuff for web scale ;)
00:32:32  <Raynos>so mongodb, express & socket.io ?
00:32:42  <jcrugzz>ohh ok
00:33:08  <jcrugzz>its couch, flatiron, and engine.io
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00:34:46  <jcrugzz>Raynos: but i dont work on the web app aspect, ive been working on things related to https://github.com/nodejitsu/godot
00:34:57  <jcrugzz>so i like living in stream land
00:36:12  <Raynos>jcrugzz: is that like hadoop in node?
00:36:18  <gwenbell>who is niftylettuce!?
00:36:30  <jcrugzz>Raynos: its like riemann in node
00:36:52  <jcrugzz>event processing through streams
00:36:58  <Raynos>so how do you send events to it
00:37:11  <jcrugzz>json objects over TCP
00:37:27  <jcrugzz>either just write to a godot client socket or use the producer concept to have a ttl based producer
00:40:04  <jcrugzz>Raynos: ^
00:46:59  <Raynos>Nice
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01:54:49  <Raynos>defunctzombie: what frontend tools do you use?
02:02:44  <jesusabdullah>Raynos: fixed the subfile thing in browserify-cdn master
02:02:51  <jesusabdullah>mbalho: https://github.com/jesusabdullah/browserify-cdn/issues/23#issuecomment-20854477 thoughts on this approach?
02:04:13  <Raynos>jesusabdullah: #WINNING
02:07:13  <Raynos>jesusabdullah: error is still happening
02:07:36  <Raynos>jesusabdullah, mbalho: is this because max has to update wzrd.in to latest version?
02:10:02  <jesusabdullah>Raynos: yes.
02:10:09  <jesusabdullah>Raynos: I said master not wzrd.in
02:10:11  <jesusabdullah>;)
02:10:20  <jesusabdullah>Raynos: it's really easy to run locally btw
02:11:23  <jesusabdullah>oh, Raynos have you ever used angular? What did you think?
02:11:38  <jesusabdullah>Raynos: plays nice with browserify?
02:12:14  <jesusabdullah>oh, angular-browserify
02:12:15  <jesusabdullah>cute
02:13:04  <Raynos>jesusabdullah: I did angular
02:13:08  <Raynos>It made me rage a lot
02:13:20  <Raynos>mainly the fact that they have a) their own module system and b) their own dependency injection framework
02:13:25  <jesusabdullah>lol
02:13:26  <jesusabdullah>I see
02:13:31  <Raynos>that isn't a problem
02:13:33  <jesusabdullah>you can't ignore half of it?
02:13:41  <Raynos>the problem is that if you DONT use their module system their reactive system doesnt work
02:13:44  <jesusabdullah>wat
02:13:50  <Raynos>their reactive update system has a shit ton of hooks planted into their module system
02:13:58  <jesusabdullah>interesting
02:13:59  <Raynos>so if you dont go through the module system you miss the hooks and its lolbroken
02:14:12  <jesusabdullah>you can't like, angular.use(require('angular-thinger')); ?
02:14:21  <Raynos>want to use you own xhr library instead of the one bundled with angular, good luck
02:14:39  <Raynos>you basically have to plug in a shit ton of undocumented hooks into your own ajax library to get it to work as expected
02:14:50  <jesusabdullah>ooh
02:14:51  <jesusabdullah>well
02:14:56  <jesusabdullah>I'll ignore angular for now then
02:15:01  <Raynos>also angular is no good for server + client
02:15:13  <jesusabdullah>I have a project coming up (currently a *maybe*) that might use angular
02:15:14  <Raynos>I'm using https://github.com/Raynos/jsonml-stringify#example
02:15:18  <Raynos>for server + client shared templates
02:15:31  <Raynos>but i havnt yet figured out the reactive syntax yet
02:15:42  <jesusabdullah>huh
02:15:54  <Raynos>the main problem with angular is node incompatibility
02:15:56  <jesusabdullah>I might use itv's mold library for some stuff
02:16:00  <Raynos>if you dont care about node + browserify then muh
02:16:24  <Raynos>jesusabdullah: what is mold?
02:16:39  <jesusabdullah>https://github.com/idottv/Mold
02:16:54  <jesusabdullah>kind of a mash-up between mustache and dom updates
02:17:03  <jesusabdullah>ran into that when interviewing with them
02:17:06  <jesusabdullah>looks reasonably useful
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02:20:06  <jesusabdullah>if you see a "looking-4-input" tag, please comment!
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03:26:52  <shama>If voxel.js doesnt work out, then I'll try for an HTML5 game programming job of some sort
03:26:55  <shama>whoops
03:27:03  <rch>heh
03:27:07  <shama>wrong channel
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04:01:51  <mbalho>deployed newest wzrd.in
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04:45:22  <jesusabdullah>mbalho: gdeal
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05:01:45  <jesusabdullah>trying out local testling
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05:11:41  <jesusabdullah>anyone successfully using testling locally? Directions not working for me
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08:19:24  <juliangruber>jesusabdullah: "it is not working" is not a helpful bug report :P
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08:20:12  <jesusabdullah>juliangruber: well no, because I don't know that it's a bug
08:20:23  <jesusabdullah>juliangruber: I was looking for someone to tell me how they used it
08:20:34  <jesusabdullah>juliangruber: I ended up looking up some of raynos's code, figured it out
08:20:42  <juliangruber>oh, cool
08:20:48  <juliangruber>i don't use testling, i use tape-run
08:20:50  <jesusabdullah>substack: there *are* some issues with testling runner docs, I'll make issues sometime
08:20:56  <jesusabdullah>unfamiliar
08:21:00  <juliangruber>with that it's: browserify test/*.js | tape-run
08:21:10  <jesusabdullah>well
08:21:12  <jesusabdullah>it works anyway
08:21:15  <juliangruber>yeah
08:21:19  <jesusabdullah>https://github.com/jesusabdullah/kenny-loggins
08:21:28  <jesusabdullah>shitty shitty docs
08:21:45  <jesusabdullah>gonna take a while to document everything, it does a lot for its size
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12:46:59  <substack>dominictarr: https://github.com/substack/json-literal-parse
12:47:13  <substack>so I can parse regex inside json from the query string and pass it to level-search
12:47:29  <dominictarr>substack: glad you are awake
12:47:30  <dominictarr>http://nrkn.neocities.org/
12:48:13  <substack>legit
12:48:30  <dominictarr>substack: json-literal-parse is nice!
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12:49:02  <dominictarr>substack: notice the page on home page designing
12:49:12  <substack>so I was also thinking I can bypass level-search entirely for regex search
12:49:31  <dominictarr>so nkrn has some very competitive rates
12:49:34  <substack>and just stop at the first regex and filter results from everything in the stream
12:49:41  <dominictarr>which gave me an idea!
12:49:43  <substack>yes I was eyeing those prices
12:49:49  <substack>only $30 for 5 pages
12:49:55  <dominictarr>EXACTLY
12:50:10  <dominictarr>$2 per link!
12:50:17  <dominictarr>so, I was thinking...
12:50:17  <substack>oh check out this dataset https://api.github.com/legacy/user/search/followers:%3E170?sort=followers&order=desc&start_page=0
12:50:24  <dominictarr>we need HTMLCONF
12:50:29  <substack>and look at how you can query it! jealous of this
12:50:52  <substack>I'll make an `order=` field that just flips the reverse flag accordingly
12:51:21  <dominictarr>reverse: true
12:51:31  <dominictarr>is the leveldb option
12:51:37  <substack>yes
12:52:53  <substack>the cool thing about this dataset is that it's a good use-case for regex
12:53:01  <substack>people fill out the location field all kinds of ways
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12:54:24  <substack>I'm also thinking that instead of calling this parameter "search", it should be called "sort"
12:54:44  <substack>since it sorts based on the indexed value in addition to filtering
12:59:34  <substack>bwahaha
12:59:39  <substack>I can now do queries like this:
12:59:39  <substack>curl -sg 'http://localhost:4000/?sort=["repos"]&limit=3&order=desc'
12:59:45  <substack>using that github dataset
12:59:54  <substack>that shows me the top 3 users for number of repos
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13:16:00  <substack>ok now I have it so that sort doesn't need to be a json array, it can just be a non-quoted string
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17:27:47  <Raynos>jesusabdullah: https://github.com/Raynos/dotfiles/blob/master/bin/testem-browser
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17:45:06  <Raynos>dominictarr: maybe you were right
17:45:15  <Raynos>series & parallel probably do belong in the continuable module
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19:51:27  <dominictarr>http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=g2cF4-tHvqI#at=52
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20:00:14  <soldair>dominictarr: my life is certainly better after seeing this
20:00:39  <dominictarr>I found it by browsing neocities.org
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20:53:18  <rmill>SUP PLAYAS!?
20:53:18  <LOUDBOT>BUBBLE NOT BURST HAHAH ASSHOLE
20:53:52  <rmill>johnkpaul: GTFO ;)
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21:09:08  <Raynos>dominictarr: I'm thinking continuable-series & continuable-para are important and maybe should go in continuable module itself
21:09:26  <dominictarr>sure why not?
21:09:54  <Raynos>cool
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21:36:22  <dominictarr>http://dominic.neocities.org/
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21:52:41  <jesusabdullah>dominictarr: spaceship, eh? XD
21:59:27  <dominictarr>jesusabdullah: I want a "under construction" gif, where the construction worker has abandoned his tools and is lying in a hammock
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22:41:41  <jesusabdullah>https://github.com/jesusabdullah/kenny-loggins
22:41:46  <jesusabdullah>dominictarr: that sounds awesome
22:42:53  <dominictarr>jesusabdullah: sweet.
22:43:02  <jesusabdullah>hahaha
22:43:07  <jesusabdullah>I need to write real docs
22:43:13  <dominictarr>I'll recommend that as enterprise grade logging solution if anyone asks.
22:43:14  <jesusabdullah>it's small but there are tons of little things you can do
22:43:31  <jesusabdullah>because I basically tried to hit every pain point I had ever ran into when logging ever
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