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00:06:51  <grncdr>right nwo, the stuff I've built is a little too focused building bundles from arbitrary sources and wonn't handle building a particular npm package without an unreasonable amount of code duplication
00:08:36  <jesusabdullah>okay, yeah, that seems like a good first step
00:08:49  <jesusabdullah>and I kinda figured that's what you had in mind
00:09:58  <grncdr>I think it makes the most sense to write a stream mapper (like symlink-dependencies) that browserifies in-place in the npm cache dir
00:09:59  <jesusabdullah>Big thing I'm gonna do is make it so that the cache hits *after* you use npm to resolve the semver
00:10:02  <jesusabdullah>instead of before
00:10:16  <jesusabdullah>that would be cool grncdr
00:10:18  <grncdr>jesusabdullah: why?
00:10:36  <jesusabdullah>grncdr: because right now 'latest' caches directly to whatever the latest module was *when it was cached*
00:10:44  <jesusabdullah>grncdr: it'll break if someone publishes new versions
00:10:50  <grncdr>ah
00:11:05  <jesusabdullah>grncdr: so, for example, if you pass in 1.2.x it should figure out the fully qualified semver, THEN check the bundle cache
00:11:12  <grncdr>that doesn't seem right...
00:11:21  <grncdr>I mean, I think it should already work how you expect
00:11:25  <jesusabdullah>grncdr: and I'm gonna do a versions cache with a relatively short ttl
00:11:38  <jesusabdullah>no because right now suppose the latest is 1.2.3
00:11:49  <jesusabdullah>so it returns 1.2.3 when you request 1.2.x
00:11:55  <jesusabdullah>but then someone publishes 1.2.4
00:12:10  <jesusabdullah>because it hits the cache without checking npm versions first, you'll still get 1.2.3
00:12:31  <grncdr>jesusabdullah: sorry on phone...
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00:12:44  <jesusabdullah>grncdr: all good, I do irc asynchronously
00:13:21  <jesusabdullah>hmm, sundays are a slow day for npm publishes apparently
00:14:18  <grncdr>jesusabdullah: I'm pretty certain npm already does what you want it to do
00:14:54  <grncdr>e.g. if you give it a semver (and not an exact version) the first request is to registry/name
00:15:08  <grncdr>and it then resolves the maxSatisfying version
00:15:24  <grncdr>even if a matching version is already cached
00:18:44  <grncdr>* npm.cache.read I mean, which is what create-dependency-stream does
00:19:02  <grncdr>er, npm.commands.cache.read
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00:21:40  <jesusabdullah>grncdr: *npm* does but my leveldb cache for browserify bundles *doesn't*
00:21:53  <jesusabdullah>grncdr: this uses leveldb to cache bundles, not just modules
00:22:06  <grncdr>ahhh I misunderstood what we were talking about
00:22:13  <jesusabdullah>Yeah, I know the npm cache works XD
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00:23:17  <jesusabdullah>aha
00:23:22  <grncdr>I wrote some code for that too actually
00:23:27  <jesusabdullah>oh? link?
00:23:30  <grncdr>before I decided to just use npm
00:23:42  <grncdr>github.com/grncdr/resolve-dependencies
00:23:46  <jesusabdullah>potential code reuse ftw
00:24:03  <jesusabdullah>cool
00:24:16  <grncdr>sorry that's not i
00:24:20  <grncdr>https://github.com/grncdr/resolve-package-versions
00:24:52  <jesusabdullah>so idk exactly how this will fit in, but I think I'll just refactor the caching code so you can hook it in however
00:25:33  <jesusabdullah>right now it's not quite so flexible
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01:39:52  <jesusabdullah>dangit jcrugzz
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02:37:03  <mbalho>made in 30 minutes: http://maxogden.github.io/flavors/
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02:44:49  <dlmanning>mbalho: Ah! That was my problem. I was using regular butter with my calf brains
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03:08:10  <mbalho>lol
03:09:01  <jesusabdullah>hey leveldb guys, I want to add LRU cache features to my leveldb. Any advice on how to do this?
03:09:36  <jesusabdullah>ohey came up with a good search :)
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03:22:51  <grncdr>mbalho: how'd you like topcoat?
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03:32:33  <mbalho>grncdr: needs more demo pages
03:33:15  <mbalho>grncdr: but it seems pretty good so far
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04:52:47  <jesusabdullah>grncdr: https://github.com/jesusabdullah/browserify-cdn/issues/5 caching is fixed
04:53:24  <jesusabdullah>grncdr: https://github.com/jesusabdullah/browserify-cdn/blob/master/bundler/index.js#L27-L43 now it's two caches, the APIs for them are pretty similar to what they were before
04:53:35  <jesusabdullah>grncdr: they have TTLs on them now too
04:54:26  <jesusabdullah>grncdr: anyways if you end up poking at that npm-cache-based build refactor lemme know if you need anything from me
04:54:58  <jesusabdullah>:)
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06:50:41  <chrisdickinson>mbalho: belatedly, but oh man it would be so great to be able to write "cat scientist" on future resumes
06:55:52  <substack>cat scientist | wc -l
06:56:07  <substack>cat scientist | meow
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07:30:56  <st_luke>jesusabdullah: was that code written by a human
07:34:08  <jesusabdullah>st_luke: presumably
07:36:06  <jesusabdullah>st_luke: very glad it's not just me
07:37:25  <jesusabdullah>st_luke: like I don't even know where to begin with this thing
07:38:04  <jesusabdullah>I'm not usually one to get angry at other people's free code, but
07:38:07  <jesusabdullah>I'm actually angry
07:41:11  <jesusabdullah>at this point I might as well write my own fucking implementation
07:41:17  <jesusabdullah>haha, I should do that
07:41:39  <jesusabdullah>and for the PR just make it point to a module that isn't a total piece of crap
07:44:23  <rvagg>jesusabdullah: leveldb comes with an lru cache itself, just jack up the cacheSize property when you open a db, right up to make the most of available RAM if you want
07:44:50  <jesusabdullah>rvagg: what I wanted was your ttl
07:44:56  <jesusabdullah>rvagg: not an in-memory lru cache
07:45:00  <jesusabdullah>rvagg: though that's awesome
07:45:27  <jesusabdullah>rvagg: https://github.com/jesusabdullah/godot-npm-publish-producer
07:45:45  <jesusabdullah>rvagg: would work way the fuck better if godot's windowed averages weren't completely fucking broken
07:46:31  <jesusabdullah>rvagg: https://github.com/indexzero/window-stream/blob/master/lib/moving-average.js D:<
07:48:11  <jesusabdullah>I'm HOPPING MAD
07:48:26  <jesusabdullah>as an aside I am also hungry, eating more foods
07:49:23  <jesusabdullah>rvagg: before I split: https://github.com/jesusabdullah/browserify-cdn/blob/c2f81cdfef330626bc87a15476f32c3d9329e8d2/bundler/cache.js#L9 oho!
07:49:34  <jesusabdullah>rvagg: this thinger has some pretty good juju goin' on
07:49:55  <jesusabdullah>(leveldb I mean)
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09:21:11  <substack>mbalho: https://github.com/substack/stream-adventure
09:21:20  <substack>secretness is lame
09:23:07  <substack>I just closed the nodeconf-2013/issues thing
09:23:11  <substack>that was lame
09:24:48  <substack>I am pulling an Edward Snowden of nodeconf
09:27:17  <jesusabdullah>unfaunfamiliar
09:27:20  <jesusabdullah>unfamiliar*
09:27:47  <jesusabdullah>idk, I say let people have their fun, like even if it's a little silly, whatever
09:28:12  <jesusabdullah>it has to be a pretty big deal before I get up in arms
09:28:46  <jesusabdullah>broken windowed averages thing in godot still chaps my ass though
09:28:48  <jesusabdullah>ಠ_ಠ
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10:22:20  <dominictarr>man, npm has gone really slow...
10:22:50  <dominictarr>hmm, but only if not a git repo...
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12:14:27  <Kessler>hoi!
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12:45:17  <dominictarr>substack: https://github.com/substack/insert-module-globals/pull/12
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13:25:52  <substack>dominictarr: merged
13:28:07  <substack>um except now I can't get the tests to run?
13:30:58  <substack>ok crap this broke everything
13:32:07  <substack>or wait, it was already broken
13:32:10  <substack>from some other things
13:32:34  <substack>ok good, browserify depends on ~0.2.0
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13:42:32  <dominictarr>sweet
13:47:52  <substack>your new stuff will land in browserify proper once all the new module updates get sorted and all the tests pass again
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13:52:33  <ednapiranha>dominictarr: hi!
13:52:50  <dominictarr>ednapiranha: hey whats up?
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13:53:47  <ednapiranha>dominictarr: not much! except i got the best domain ever for meatspace :)
13:54:09  <dominictarr>oh yeah?
13:54:16  <ednapiranha>dominictarr: lol yeah.. meatspac.es
13:54:19  <ednapiranha>hahahah ahhh
13:54:30  <dominictarr>espanol!
13:54:36  <ednapiranha>dominictarr: yes!
13:54:37  <ednapiranha>also
13:54:53  <ednapiranha>dominictarr: http://carne.meatspac.es
13:55:01  <ednapiranha>for double espanol
13:55:31  <dominictarr>nice
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14:03:28  <dominictarr>ednapiranha: been meaning to set a meatspace up, but so so so busy
14:03:52  <ednapiranha>dominictarr: hehe i made a leveldb version :o
14:03:55  <ednapiranha>it seems to work
14:04:00  <ednapiranha>the carne site is the leveldb one
14:04:09  <ednapiranha>the other ones are still redis
14:04:24  <dominictarr>I saw!
14:04:24  <dominictarr>that is definately the version I'd use -- just so that I can use only npm to install stuff.
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14:04:48  <dominictarr>(someone should put redis on npm…)
14:05:13  <ednapiranha>dominictarr: hmm https://npmjs.org/package/redis ?
14:05:25  <dominictarr>that is just a client
14:05:28  <dominictarr>not the server
14:05:30  <ednapiranha>ahh yeah
14:05:44  <ednapiranha>yeah i just run it on my slice
14:06:08  <dominictarr>it would be cool if redis was just a node binding, and you could build your own server around redis...
14:06:17  <ednapiranha>yeah
14:06:36  <ednapiranha>i had a colleague who was complaining about setting up a server so i'm going to mention leveldb to him
14:06:45  <ednapiranha>he was going to set up a meatspace
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14:32:47  <dominictarr>http://npm.im/reconnect can now be used from the browser and from node with the same codepath! this makes examples much nicer...
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15:21:06  <defunctzombie>substack: http://shtylman.com/localtunnel/ (alternative to ssh tunnel for browserling)
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16:39:43  <owen1>substack: Error: EACCES, permission denied '../../data.txt' (in the 'meet pipe' adventure)
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21:23:12  <jjjohnny>dominictarr: are you staying with use pre nodeconf?
21:23:23  <jjjohnny>in hackistan
21:23:34  <dominictarr>would love to!
21:23:46  <jjjohnny>yay
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21:36:12  <thl0>I'm gonna come in early for nodeconf (wheels touching SFO 1am Thursday morning)
21:36:26  <thl0>anyone wanna hang out and hack in a coffeeshop or so?
21:38:52  <dlmanning>thl0: Doesn't the bus leave SF on Thursday afternoon?
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21:40:11  <dominictarr>I'm guessing thl0 means this thursday, not next thursday?
21:40:35  <thl0>dlmanning: busses leave at 10,11 am
21:41:02  <thl0>dominictarr: Thursday 27th -- otherwise I'd be attending the level meetup ;)
21:41:27  <dominictarr>oh - right - not time then
21:41:46  <dominictarr>thl0: I'm sure there will be plenty of leveling at nodeconf!
21:41:58  <thl0>:)
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21:42:49  <thl0>I may actually hang out at SFO until about 4 am so I can take the rail instead of a bus
21:43:08  <dlmanning>thl0: So not so much for you with the sleeping, eh?
21:43:25  <thl0>dlmanning: sleeping on the airplane ;)
21:43:29  <dominictarr>an airport isn't the worst place in the world to sleep
21:43:50  <thl0>dominictarr: I was thinking of hacking unless I'm too tired
21:43:58  <thl0>does SFO have free wifi?
21:44:02  <dominictarr>even better!
21:44:05  <dominictarr>not sure
21:44:56  <dlmanning>Anyone going to hueniverse's farm party on Wednesday the 26th?
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21:48:09  <calvinfo>thl0: I think it had free wifi last time I was there
21:48:12  <thl0>dlmanning: correction buses leave at 11am and 3pm
21:48:22  <thl0>calvinfo: nice!
21:48:59  <dlmanning>thl0: I've got it written down somewhere
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21:56:00  <Raynos>thl0: o/
21:56:07  <Raynos>when your in SF let's do some cool stuff
21:56:41  <thl0>Raynos: as I said the eagle lands in SFO 1am on Thurs June 26th
21:57:50  <thl0>I could take the bus into town or wait til 4am for the rails -- we could hang out before the bus leaves at 11?
21:57:53  <Raynos>actually I think i'm on one of the earlier buses
21:58:06  <thl0>Raynos: earlier than 11?
21:58:11  <Raynos>not sure.
21:58:13  <Raynos>i'll find out tonight
21:58:18  <Raynos>but probably the 11 one
21:58:45  <thl0>cool, let me know if you wana hang out in the morning -- not sure if you are a morning person ;)
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21:58:58  <Raynos>im not a morning person :P
21:59:00  <Raynos>but I might try
21:59:23  <st_luke>some german guy "ze police is in ze house"
21:59:24  <st_luke>heh
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22:00:46  <thl0>?
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22:03:20  <thl0>I think the German police got st_luke -- I wasn't involved, I swear!
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22:22:06  <mbalho>substack: ping
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22:40:11  <mbalho>substack: are you going to the nodeconf thing in SF?
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22:59:52  <isaacs>What does everyone use to minify javascript?
23:02:27  <dominictarr>uglify?
23:06:13  <substack>mbalho: that already happened I thought, at noon
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23:06:17  <substack>which is crazy early
23:07:46  <st_luke>github broken
23:07:50  <st_luke>back
23:08:55  <substack>oh 6pm nevermind
23:09:03  <substack>mbalho: ok I'm awake so I can make it for 6pm
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23:24:50  <mbalho>substack: w00t
23:25:32  <st_luke>is oakland hills really far?
23:26:14  <st_luke>looking at sublets in the easy bay once I have escaped europe
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23:33:36  <mbalho>st_luke: hills are bland and full of rich people
23:33:41  <mbalho>st_luke: but it depends on the address
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23:39:45  <substack>st_luke: hills are far from transit and unbikable
23:40:07  <substack>but it depends a lot too
23:40:51  <st_luke>ah needs to be bikable
23:41:09  <st_luke>do not want to buy a car right now
23:41:25  <substack>I know some hackerhouses that might have room right now.
23:42:56  <st_luke>i think it would be around august
23:43:02  <st_luke>was going to stay in europe but i think im getting sick of traveling
23:43:24  <mbalho>st_luke: i might be going to europa for a while
23:43:37  <mbalho>st_luke: you can with 80% confidence have my room for at least 3 months
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23:44:33  <st_luke>where you heading in europe?
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23:46:46  <mbalho>st_luke: theres some github rental house thing in berlin? i dont know the details really i just know theres a lot of travelling opportunities for jlord and me
23:47:18  <st_luke>mbalho: neat!
23:52:45  <jlord>mbalho: i don't know if it's that. i think there were just a bunch of people at a conference earlier this year so it made sense. don't think it's permanent.
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