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00:58:54  <Raynos>thl0: i dont get your jokes
00:59:01  <thl0>:)
00:59:10  <thl0>me neither - that's what makes them special
00:59:26  <Raynos>But thanks
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00:59:33  <Raynos>npmify
00:59:35  <Raynos>will become a thing
00:59:37  <Raynos>a real thing
01:00:27  <thl0>awesome - I guess that testlingify can be one of the many sub tools ?
01:00:31  <thl0>as will pkginit and travisify?
01:00:54  <substack>nice
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01:01:33  <thl0>so substack you are not gonna sue me and my management team ;)
01:01:36  <thl0>?
01:02:12  <thl0>substack: context: https://github.com/thlorenz/testlingify/issues/1
01:03:57  <Raynos>thl0: I dont use pkginit
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01:04:11  <Domenic_>thl0: wait can't tell if serious
01:04:14  <Raynos>I actually started using https://github.com/Raynos/dotfiles/blob/master/.functions#L11
01:04:19  <Raynos>and its pretty awesome
01:04:29  <Raynos>I just need to make it even easier to publish 3 line functions to npm
01:04:35  <Raynos>sublime text 2 plugin
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01:04:40  <Raynos>"refactor selected function to npm"
01:05:03  <eccloud>substack: You told me that I *have* to include the "html" field with the "preprocess" field, right? I can't just pre-process the scripts into a compiled-javascript folder, and then use that folder as the target-point of the normal Testling process?
01:05:30  <thl0>Domenic_: cannot tell if you seriously can't tell
01:06:26  <Domenic_>thl0: actually i skimmed over "ofcourse-itisajoke-raynosify" so I was seriously unsure
01:06:35  <Domenic_>but yeah after actually reading that sentence i'm good
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01:07:52  <Raynos>at first I was like
01:07:56  <Raynos>"oh thl0 works in new york"
01:08:08  <Raynos>"sucks to work at companies with lawyers and suits"
01:09:38  <st_luke>hahaha
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01:21:16  <AvianFlu>SOLIPSISTIC SOLARISISMS
01:21:17  <LOUDBOT>SOME PEOPLE WHO USE SYSTEM() JUST WANT TO WATCH THE WORLD BURN
01:28:19  <rvagg>no.js, what's on the wishlist ppl? raw bindings to what's in libuv *only*? everything else, including http_parser pushed into userland? even if addons need to be compiled to get some basic functionality?
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01:30:51  <thl0>only thing I forgot about the whole thing is you can't delete issues
01:31:03  <thl0>unless ....
01:33:23  <thl0>gone: https://github.com/thlorenz/testlingify -- another good joke forgotten for eternity
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01:49:18  <substack>eccloud: the problem is that if you have a custom preprocess field the js file doesn't get built in the place expected by the default html file
01:49:26  <substack>because the js location is based on the test id
01:49:32  * eccloudnods
01:49:35  <eccloud>Makes sense.
01:49:45  <eccloud>Is the default mocha-bdd harness available online anywhere? Doesn't seem to be in your repositories.
01:49:59  <eccloud>I was reading through the year-old “mocha-testling” repo's code, though.
01:50:20  <eccloud>You weren't kidding, getting testling-ci, Browserify 2.x, and CoffeeScript working, might be a massive clusterfuck. )':
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02:00:45  <substack>the mocha-bdd harness is just mocha configured to output tap
02:00:47  <substack>it's like 3 lines
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02:19:21  <eccloud>oh! I didn't even notice that Mocha had a TAP reporter. That's excellent.
02:19:25  <eccloud>shows what changes in a year. (=
02:20:36  <substack>it's obscure
02:20:40  <substack>it's been there a while though
02:20:46  <thl0>can anyone help me with github api: i.e. curl https://api.github.com/repos/thlorenz/thlorenz.com-blog/hooks should return the webhook I have on it
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02:21:09  <substack>the more you diverge from the modules I typically use the harder everything gets on testling-ci though :p
02:21:21  <thl0>not working though, returns { message: Not Found }
02:21:49  <substack>it might require auth to get the hook data
02:21:53  <thl0>other urls i.e. /messages work fine
02:22:08  <thl0>ah you are right maybe for hooks that is the case
02:22:19  <eccloud>substack: do I still need "files" and "harness", if I'm doing "html" and "preprocess"?
02:22:33  <thl0>substack: right on
02:22:40  <thl0>using --user fixed it
02:22:41  <substack>eccloud: no those are mutually exclusive
02:22:51  <eccloud>excellent!
02:23:24  <eccloud>"html" is relative to the project root? and "preprocess" is run *after* `npm install`?
02:23:29  <substack>a custom preprocess field is "I know whta I'm doing get out of my way" mode
02:23:38  <substack>eccloud: correct
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02:25:03  <eccloud>does `"preprocess"`'s output show up in the “show build output” dropdown on the site?
02:25:38  <defunctzombie>Raynos: the piano is being tuned
02:25:45  <Raynos>YES
02:25:54  <Raynos>defunctzombie: like right now?
02:25:56  <Raynos>Oh shit
02:25:58  <defunctzombie>Raynos: yep
02:25:58  <Raynos>I should go home
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02:26:02  <Raynos>before Yi shouts at me
02:26:07  <defunctzombie>Raynos: hahaha, she is here
02:26:13  <defunctzombie>Raynos: do I need to pass on any information?
02:26:22  <Raynos>what time does the movie start
02:26:31  <defunctzombie>she said 8
02:26:37  <defunctzombie>but that will probably be flexible
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02:27:09  <eccloud>also, completely banal question that's been mildly bothering me for a while:
02:27:24  <eccloud>are testling, browserling, testling-ci, browserify … etceteras, lowercased, or Titlecased?
02:27:44  <eccloud>official Word of Mr. Halliday on the matter?
02:27:47  <Raynos>I see
02:27:50  <Raynos>Ok I should leave now
02:27:53  <Raynos>otherwise ragequit
02:29:17  <substack>eccloud: lowercase. unix.
02:29:44  <eccloud>Good to know.
02:32:58  <eccloud>Well. I made my best attempt, but I apparently screwed it up. Tests are timing out with no output on Testling-CI.
02:33:03  <eccloud>Here's what I tried:
02:33:08  <eccloud>https://github.com/elliottcable/Paws.js/commit/109eeed
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02:40:04  <eccloud>Hm. Okay. “File not found. :(” is the content of what *should* be my translated, browserify'd tests-file (bundle.js) … which is causing a syntax error, hence all the failing tests. I can't tell if my "preprocess" is getting run correctly.
02:40:43  <jesusabdullah>who is Yi
02:41:51  <substack>eccloud: where are you generating Paws.bundle.js?
02:42:29  <substack>also that script should be relative to your html which is in Library/ for some reason
02:45:37  <eccloud>it is; it is generated as Library/Paws.bundle.js at the moment
02:45:49  <eccloud>unrelated: Just got your e-mail, pkrumins. Can't push manually, getting a 403.
02:45:59  <substack>eccloud: is cake in your dev deps?
02:46:12  <eccloud>substack: mmhmm. It's a part of coffee-script
02:46:13  <substack>all of this build machinery seems really complicated
02:46:20  <eccloud>I'll be getting rid of cake in a couple commits anyway.
02:46:25  <jesusabdullah>capitals??!?!
02:46:28  <jesusabdullah>wat ur doin
02:47:22  <eccloud>jesusabdullah: nmu
02:47:25  <substack>eccloud: I don't see Paws.bundle.js anywhere in your cakefile
02:47:33  <substack>just some regexes that MIGHT get you there
02:47:52  <thl0>any quick way to replicate curl --user 'uname:pwd' in nodejs i.e. with request?
02:47:53  <eccloud>https://github.com/elliottcable/Paws.js/blob/Master/Cakefile#L89-L91
02:48:18  <substack>thl0: 'http://user:pass@host:port/...'
02:48:56  <jesusabdullah>not using capitals in my filenames
02:49:02  <jesusabdullah>excepting for Makefiles but y'know
02:49:04  <jesusabdullah>you can't win 'em all
02:49:05  <thl0>substack: works with https too?
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02:49:25  <jesusabdullah>thl0: yeah
02:49:32  <thl0>cool thanks
02:50:31  <eccloud>jesusabdullah: I come from an OS X upbringing. ~/Library/Preferences, ~/Documents/Parallels, … etc, etc, etc
02:51:01  <jesusabdullah>sorry excuse cable
02:51:04  <eccloud>at least for folder-names. As for file-names, I match them to the contents. “utilities.coffee” for a bundle of random crap; but “Paws.coffee” for a proper-name library, Paws.
02:51:04  <jesusabdullah>sorry excus
02:51:51  <eccloud>pkrumins: PM'd you exact output, since it contains my secure key. I'm not sure what I'm doin' wrong.
02:52:08  <jesusabdullah>XD
02:52:11  <eccloud>jesusabdullah: <3
02:52:32  <jesusabdullah>spaghetti 2nite
02:52:34  <jesusabdullah>*engulf*
02:52:50  <eccloud>I'm at Chili's. Put chicken crispers IN MY BODY.
02:52:57  <thl0>so curl --user foo:bar https://api.github.com/repos/thlorenz/brace/hooks is same as https://foo:bar@api.github.com/repos/thlorenz/brace/hooks ?
02:53:10  <eccloud>thl0: that's usually the case, yes
02:53:12  <thl0>cause it aint working
02:53:27  <elliottcable>No idea if Request supports that or anything, though.
02:53:37  <thl0>even curl fails on it
02:54:01  <elliottcable>I'm surprised. Is it HTTP Basic auth?
02:54:22  <thl0>https I think oauth
02:55:14  * elliottcableshrugs
02:55:35  <elliottcable>unrelated note: I found your GitHub account today, thanks to your oh-so-humorous (...) repository earlier-linked.
02:55:45  <elliottcable>I like a lot of the things you're working on. You're the new #2.
02:56:01  <thl0>thanks, appreciated
02:56:39  <thl0>currently working on testling which is why I gotta figure this auth github api out ;)
02:56:47  <thl0>s/testling/testlingify/
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03:05:50  <elliottcable>substack ⑊ Success. In removing the old testling fields from my package, I broke the build, ironically enough.
03:06:00  <elliottcable>substack ⑊ I appreciate all the help. You make great things. Keep doing that. 'ta!
03:06:28  <elliottcable>Last thing: When you have time, I'd love to see commit-messages on the testling-ci entries.
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03:28:45  <st_luke>juliangruber: do you ever have an issue with the multilevel server refusing connections in your benchmarks?
03:29:15  <st_luke>https://gist.github.com/st-luke/5641113
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05:54:37  <juliangruber>st_luke: try increasing your open files limit, probably ran out of socket file descriptors
05:56:26  <st_luke>weird, hasn't happened any time before with the same benchmarks
05:56:27  <st_luke>oh well
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07:36:21  <substack>>> 'link text'.link('/href')
07:36:21  <purr>substack: (string) '<a href="/href">link text</a>'
07:36:29  <substack>I kind of want to use this now in a real app.
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08:15:22  <elliottcable>substack ⑊ use what?
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08:25:54  <substack>String.prototype.link
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08:38:28  <rowbit>/!\ ATTENTION: (default-local) werenskjold@... successfully signed up for developer browserling plan ($20). Cash money! /!\
08:38:28  <rowbit>/!\ ATTENTION: (default-local) paid account successfully upgraded /!\
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09:21:13  <juliangruber>what's a sensible http timeout for mobile apps?
09:21:19  <juliangruber>mbalho: ^
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09:47:23  <jesusabdullah>wow I never knew about that method
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10:03:06  <rvagg>.. and its friend String.prototype.blink
10:03:22  <rvagg>the stinky history of JavaScript
10:11:56  <substack>hilarious
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11:03:16  <elliottcable>Holy crap, that actually exists.
11:03:33  <elliottcable>I didn't stop to wonder ... why does my bot have .link()?
11:03:42  <elliottcable>I just assumed it was something substack had written.
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13:53:51  <jjjjohnn1y>lol also 'string text'.big().bold().blink().link()
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14:06:48  <FireFly>Couldn't those at least be moved to the DOM or something?
14:06:54  <FireFly>>.<
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14:36:49  <Domenic_>They're not part of ES5, but all browsers implement them
14:36:59  <Domenic_>And Node, since it uses a browser JS engine
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14:37:32  <Domenic_>They're getting specced in ES6, in the "Annex B" where all the crap-we-want-to-spec-the-edge-cases-of-but-don't-like-or-want-to-mandate goes
14:37:51  <Domenic_>other things in Annex B: __proto__, String.prototype.substr, Date.prototype.getYear, ...
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14:56:26  <FireFly>Oh, that's pretty decent then
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15:22:45  <mikolalysenko>Is this guy just squatting on a bunch of repos or what? https://npmjs.org/~jf7
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15:32:45  <tanepiper>it would seem so
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17:18:31  <chrisdickinson>substack: String.prototype.link is all sorts of broken iirc
17:18:34  <chrisdickinson>actually, all of the "htmlify" methods are
17:18:37  <chrisdickinson>they don't do escaping or anything
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17:20:44  <simcop2387>pkrumins: you're a sick sick man. because of you making those node modules, someone has now made vnc over gif.
17:21:41  <simcop2387>https://github.com/sidorares/vnc-over-gif
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17:41:21  <pkrumins>simcop2387: http://i.imgur.com/FALEa.gif :)
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17:54:03  <tanepiper>pkrumins: nice!
17:54:50  <tanepiper>unfortunatly gifcast.com isn't available :(
17:56:41  <pkrumins>i created that gif in august 2010 :)
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18:18:07  <simcop2387>pkrumins: nice
18:18:34  <simcop2387>perlbot: .st
18:18:34  <perlbot>simcop2387: .st is Sao Tome and Principe
18:19:12  <simcop2387>35 euros for giftca.st
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19:29:29  <st_luke>nice mustache
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20:00:51  <Domenic_>st_luke: bleh de-dupeing all these object.keys npm bugs is quite a chore
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20:03:55  <st_luke>Domenic_: yes
20:04:09  <st_luke>I have an idea actually
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20:09:34  <st_luke>who is node caulfield
20:13:05  <Domenic_>who is horse js
20:13:10  <Domenic_>these are the great mysteries of our time
20:14:47  <st_luke>horse js isnt a mystery anymore, he was at node pdx
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20:17:31  <thl0>true, I saw him dancing
20:17:45  <thl0>actually at some point there were two horses dancing
20:18:13  <st_luke>wasn't one a unicorn
20:18:17  <st_luke>he did a presentation
20:18:30  <Raynos>defunctzombie: yo
20:18:38  <thl0>there was a presentation involving two horses
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20:23:08  <st_luke>thl0: but one had a horn on its head
20:23:10  <st_luke>those are unicorns
20:23:32  <thl0>thanks for clearing that up ;)
20:23:54  <st_luke>well idk if you guys call them something else in deutschland
20:23:57  <thl0>in Germany we only have duocorns
20:24:04  <thl0>we also call them goats
20:24:14  <thl0>or Ziege to be correct
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20:24:20  <st_luke>yeah goats are alright
20:24:26  <thl0>:)
20:24:39  <st_luke>im gonna try and stay there i think
20:24:46  <st_luke>do they deport illegals a lot?
20:24:59  <st_luke>or maybe they can renew my visa a bunch of times
20:25:09  <thl0>only if they can prove direct involvement to unicorns
20:25:21  <thl0>in that case they'll prob send you to Romania
20:25:31  <st_luke>aren't BMWs cheap there?
20:25:31  <thl0>lots of goats there
20:25:33  <st_luke>I kind of want to buy one
20:26:02  <thl0>never bought one (was a musician there remember), so BMW was way out of my league ;)
20:26:20  <thl0>prob. they are cheaper than here though
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20:39:02  <thl0>st_luke: but on a serious note I think you'll not be deported, but may get into a bit of trouble when leaving and your visa is expired
20:39:54  <thl0>st_luke: main repercussion could be that you'll have a hard time getting a visa in the future
20:47:26  <Raynos_>defunctzombie_zz: ping
20:47:51  <Raynos_>substack: I want to use engine.io-client in the browser but it has a stupid single file bundle thing that does module.exports at the bottom
20:48:05  <Raynos_>Can I instruct browserify not to parse the require statements in this bundle
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20:53:26  <st_luke>thl0: oh that would suck then
20:53:39  <st_luke>i kinda want to stay for a while and learn german but i have to head back to nyc for most of the summer
20:53:53  <thl0>st_luke: you could prob. google something on the net
20:54:01  <st_luke>whats google
20:54:13  <thl0>sometimes it's enough to just leave the country and then come back in
20:54:40  <thl0>i.e. that's what people do in Thailand - they do the border run once a month or so
20:55:27  <thl0>st_luke: I met lots of Americans in Berlin that were there for a long time, so there must be a way
20:55:44  <thl0>st_luke: in case you know Emily Rose, she lived in Berlin for a long time
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20:57:33  <st_luke>I heard border runs do not work since your visa time is cumulative over a certain large period of time
20:59:49  <st_luke>i do do thailand again tho, its pretty cheap there
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21:06:24  <dominictarr>mbalho: you there?
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21:13:33  <thl0>Raynos_: substack added --noparse the other day https://github.com/substack/node-browserify/commit/9dfb7b6961666efa17a84b4d079f880778c37642
21:13:45  <thl0>also look in advanced options
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21:16:28  <Nexxy>thl0, what
21:16:41  <Nexxy>I most certainly did not live in Berlin
21:16:55  <Nexxy>and furthermore, I refuse to believe that there is anyone else with the name
21:17:47  <thl0>Nexxy: sorry got you confused with someone else
21:17:54  <mbalho>dominictarr: YO
21:18:03  <dominictarr>hey whats up?
21:18:12  <dominictarr>whats the plan for tomorrow?
21:18:14  <mbalho>dominictarr: fjord!!!!
21:18:19  <mbalho>dominictarr: check yo emailz
21:18:21  <dominictarr>what time is the train
21:18:26  <mbalho>dominictarr: 645
21:18:43  <dominictarr>oh, sweet
21:18:58  <dominictarr>okay, what time do I need to wake up?
21:19:06  <thl0>I remember a talk about a shooter game in JS inspired by living in Berlin and thought the speaker's name was Emily, anyhoo maybe someone knows her actual name
21:19:27  <mbalho>dominictarr: 545 probably, but it depends on how long it takes you to get out the door. meet me in the lobby at 6?
21:20:06  <dominictarr>sweet
21:21:35  <mbalho>dominictarr: then we get either the 12:11 or the 13:27 train to flam
21:21:44  <mbalho>dominictarr: and then the 15:30 boat to bergen
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21:21:50  <dominictarr>ah, sweet
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21:22:56  <thl0>Nexxy: mystery solved - I was talking about Mary Rose Cook
21:22:58  <mbalho>dominictarr: k im goin to bed, cya in the mornin
21:23:11  <dominictarr>sweet!
21:23:15  <thl0>see how easy it is to get those Roses confused?
21:23:59  <mbalho>dominictarr: we just need to figure out where that hostel is in bergen?
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21:24:12  <dominictarr>oh, right there was only one
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21:28:32  <substack>FEE ORD
21:28:32  <LOUDBOT>I'M GONNA PHYSICALLY ABUSE YOUR COCK
21:28:46  <substack>loudbot tsk
21:29:02  <substack>dominictarr: how long are you going to be in the bay area around nodeconf time?
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21:36:24  <dominictarr>at least 2 weeks, for sure
21:36:40  <dominictarr>I might tag on a trip to mexico
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21:55:10  <thl0>wasn't there some bus going to a party the night before nodeconf substack?
21:55:29  <thl0>remember someone talking about it at nodepdx - wanna book my plane ticket accordingly ;)
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23:23:05  <Domenic_>oh thank god a new node
23:23:08  <Domenic_>packaged with a new npm
23:23:13  <Domenic_>no more object.keys bug reports
23:25:49  <rvagg>faulty assumption that people upgrade in a timely fashion Domenic_
23:26:12  <Domenic_>rvagg: well if they upgraded to 0.10.7 already they should upgrade to 0.10.8
23:30:42  <substack>and the pausing res bug was fixed yay
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23:55:38  <mikolalysenko>man I wish c++ had a package manager like npm