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00:37:43  <dominictarr>hey, does anyone know an all js html5 repl lib?
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01:02:42  <defunctzombie>isaacs: you having some identity issues?
01:02:54  <isaacs>defunctzombie: playing around in #libuv
01:03:29  <defunctzombie>haha
01:13:09  <niftylettuce>Police release e-fit of "lettuce head" suspect http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/sep/21/police-efit-lettuce-head-burglary-suspect
01:13:40  <rowbit>/!\ ATTENTION: (default-local) paid account successfully upgraded /!\
01:13:40  <rowbit>/!\ ATTENTION: (default-local) msenate@... successfully signed up for developer browserling plan ($20). Cash money! /!\
01:13:59  <niftylettuce>CASH MONEY $$$$
01:13:59  <LOUDBOT>OH REALLY? THEN WHERE IS YOUR MOMMA?
01:15:22  <CoverSlide>niftylettuce: reminds me of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKaP0Y_4COE
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01:23:21  <pkrumins>cash money dollars.
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01:36:08  <dools>AT MY HOUSE, WAXIN THAT ASS SHE HAD TO MOVE ... STRAIGHT OUTTA LOWCASH
01:36:09  <LOUDBOT>ALL THE TIME? YEAH
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01:44:03  <niftylettuce>how about we do some upvote rings on this shiz
01:44:04  <niftylettuce>http://www.quora.com/What-are-the-best-free-tools-for-cross-browser-testing
01:44:14  <niftylettuce> /cc pkrumins substack go post there and let us know ;)
01:44:52  <pkrumins>woot
01:44:58  <pkrumins>posting
01:45:13  <niftylettuce>browserling ranks #4 here on google for search of "flash free browser testing"
01:45:14  <niftylettuce>nice job
01:45:27  <pkrumins>well who would search that...
01:45:43  <pkrumins>people dont care if it's flash free or not
01:45:50  <pkrumins>like maybe 0.01% cares
01:45:57  <pkrumins>they just want a great working product to get their job done
01:46:08  <niftylettuce>or does their job want them to get their product done?
01:46:11  <niftylettuce>that is an interesting question.
01:46:16  <niftylettuce>lol
01:46:21  <pkrumins>hehe
01:46:59  <niftylettuce>SEND ME SOME TASTY POTATO RECIPE
01:47:00  <LOUDBOT>I HARASS GIRLS BECAUSE I THINK THEY ARE ICKY STINKY POO POO HEADS AND ... BOOBIES!
01:47:35  <niftylettuce>pkrumins: shame u wont be in SF this upcoming week
01:47:40  <pkrumins>step 1: cut those mothafuckas up. step 2: fry on a pan.
01:47:59  <pkrumins>what's happening this upcoming week?
01:48:02  <niftylettuce>pkrumins: then smother that shit with spices n oil n butter n tastycakes
01:48:18  <niftylettuce>pkrumins: flying to SF on tues for fun times in da valley
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01:48:37  <pkrumins>niftylettuce: upvote my shit http://www.quora.com/What-are-the-best-free-tools-for-cross-browser-testing
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01:49:56  <pkrumins>hey my answer disappeared
01:50:08  <pkrumins>niftylettuce: you can meet with james though!
01:50:14  <pkrumins>you can even stay in his house.
01:50:34  <pkrumins>he's close to bart so you can go to SF in no time
01:50:42  <niftylettuce>love your title on Quora... "Hacker"
01:51:08  <pkrumins>hehe
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02:22:04  <Raynos>substack: https://github.com/substack/node-browserify/pull/273
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03:29:33  <isaacs>Raynos: https://github.com/joyent/node/compare/d6c24fcc612c%5E...00295e3af611
03:29:50  <isaacs>Raynos: can you make sure that looks right? All the tests still pass
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03:41:54  <defunctzombie>http://harthur.wordpress.com/2013/01/24/771/
03:48:06  <substack>I got the same kind of asshole response for secure-peer
03:48:11  <substack>from that one ruby pro
03:48:13  <substack>*bro
03:48:23  <substack>haters gonna hate and be jerks
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03:49:23  <defunctzombie>I was shocked
03:49:26  <defunctzombie>seriously
03:49:46  <defunctzombie>I mean, it is one thing to discuss something and bounce ideas/methods/pros/cons
03:49:57  <defunctzombie>but to just flat out tweet retarded crap like that
03:51:13  <defunctzombie>substack: npm-css changed to use @import vs @require to be more css like
03:51:19  <defunctzombie>and no more weird stuff with comments
03:51:30  <defunctzombie>basically you can @import other nodejs modules
03:55:34  <fotoverite>defunctzombie: I don't know why you are shocked. Is regular knee jerk reaction to people who don't like node.
03:55:59  <fotoverite>I have no idea why you want to recreate sed with node but I have the same issue with node-tar
03:56:09  <substack>import is a big better
03:56:14  <substack>*bit
03:56:21  <substack>not sure that it's for me though
03:56:31  <defunctzombie>substack: give it time :) :p
03:56:33  <fotoverite>I like import vs require
03:56:33  <substack>I prefer inlining the css into the js
03:56:38  <defunctzombie>fotoverite: cause I can never remember the sed syntax
03:56:58  <defunctzombie>substack: one thing you do get with npm-css is auto namespacing (maybe you are doing that now)
03:56:59  <fotoverite>defunctzombie: then memorize. :D Sed always going to be more powerful.
03:57:19  <defunctzombie>I have been using linux systems for oh I dunno how many years now
03:57:29  <defunctzombie>and can count the number of times I have needed sed on 1 hand
03:57:36  <fotoverite>True
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03:57:42  <fotoverite>I like it for renaming file for the most part
03:58:38  <fotoverite>Still nobody should made to feel bad about OSS.
03:58:52  <fotoverite>And I think people forget the people they are critiquing have feelings.
03:58:58  <fotoverite>Or just yelling at in this case.
03:59:34  <fotoverite>It does show we need to think more about how we treat others and talk about code.
03:59:59  <defunctzombie>substack: you found/had am module for parsing stack traces?
04:00:10  <defunctzombie>there are a few floating around apparently
04:01:15  <substack>not for parsing no
04:01:36  <substack>I have stackedy which is for generating them at very considerable performance penalty
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04:10:59  <defunctzombie>stack-trace
04:23:11  <defunctzombie>Raynos: I love the xtend module
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05:04:33  <defunctzombie>substack: I think your tweets are made better by the presence of your robot avatar with the hand and fist
05:05:04  <defunctzombie>I generally like to imagine the robot is saying it while getting ready to slam his fist down
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05:33:49  <mbalho>agreed
05:34:02  <fotoverite>agreed
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06:43:31  <defunctzombie>is there a module to sync walk up a path structure looking for a particular path?
06:43:44  <defunctzombie>sorta like how node looks for node_modules in parent dirs?
06:44:02  <defunctzombie>I know resolve uses that functionality
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06:59:00  <jesusabdullah>ouch
06:59:26  <jesusabdullah>all I know is, heather wrote that leet ANN library so their arguments are invalid
07:02:58  <jesusabdullah>the other thing I know is that people comment on my pull requests when i ignore them
07:03:02  <jesusabdullah>how dare
07:08:21  <chrisdickinson>ah, another good reason for replace: easy to port to anyplace node runs, like windows.
07:08:34  <jesusabdullah>^^^^
07:08:40  <jesusabdullah>That's why I hacked together bbgurl
07:08:54  <jesusabdullah>which has kind of a silly nonsense name but WHATEVAH
07:08:56  <chrisdickinson>(the bit about node-tar made me realize that one)
07:08:59  <mbalho>creepiest name evar
07:09:32  <jesusabdullah>lol, yeeah
07:09:38  <jesusabdullah>sometimes I feel like it's really creepy
07:09:46  <jesusabdullah>but then I remember that it's from some random song or other
07:11:14  <jesusabdullah>someday I'm gonna sign up for linkedin for the lulz
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17:12:07  <isaacs>Raynos: do you prefer to be credited in the ChangeLog as "Raynos" or your "real" name?
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17:56:53  <Raynos>isaacs: Raynos is fine.
17:57:03  <isaacs>Raynos: is Jake Verbaten fine?
17:57:16  <isaacs>Raynos: i already am building with that :)
17:57:56  <Raynos>Oh that works too
17:58:07  <Raynos>isaacs: Did you add tests fixes for Duplex ?
17:58:12  <Raynos>I never did test / patch that one.
17:58:24  <isaacs>Raynos: oh, no, i didn't.
17:58:40  <isaacs>Raynos: looking into it now
17:58:43  <Raynos>oh wait duplex is silly
17:59:45  <Raynos>i eyeballed duplex & transform and they look fine
17:59:57  <Raynos>I would just write some kind of test for them
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18:10:57  <isaacs>Raynos: i'll add a test for transform, but it'll go in next release.
18:11:01  <isaacs>Raynos: the test passes just fine
18:11:06  <Raynos>Cool
18:11:09  <isaacs>doing a json-parse stream and a json-stringify stream.
18:11:19  <isaacs>also: it's AWESOEM how ludicrously short those classes are now!
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20:13:41  <Raynos>isaacs: o/
20:13:54  <isaacs>Raynos: \o
20:14:10  <chrisdickinson>\o/
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20:16:05  <CryptoQuick> /o\
20:26:54  <pkrumins>:D/-<
20:30:51  <CoverSlide>get on up and DANCE
20:35:05  <pkrumins>:D\-<
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20:46:54  <mbalho><( ''<) (>'' )>
20:48:29  <pkrumins> |
20:48:39  <pkrumins> -'-
20:48:42  <pkrumins> |
20:48:47  <pkrumins> / \
20:49:16  <mbalho>lol what
20:51:03  <niftylettuce>Q(''Q)
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21:00:26  <defunctzombie>wow
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21:12:17  <mbalho> ?
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21:36:00  <mikolalysenko>Just wrote another blog post: http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/177oxl/comparing_sequences_without_sorting/
21:36:08  <mikolalysenko>more math in javascript
21:39:21  <mikolalysenko>also if anyone sees any typos in the post, please let me know...
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22:09:35  <rvagg>isaacs: any chance of NODE_MODULE_M making it in before 0.10?
22:15:57  <defunctzombie>that really needs a better name :)
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22:16:24  <isaacs>rvagg: yea, most likely
22:16:29  <isaacs>rvagg: seems pretty well received.
22:17:36  <isaacs>rvagg: what's the _M mean?
22:17:44  <isaacs>rvagg: why not NODE_MODULE_EXPORT or something?
22:18:07  <rvagg>cause that's what the default one should be since it injects `exports`
22:18:11  <rvagg>this one injects `module`
22:18:13  <rvagg>hence _M
22:18:22  <rvagg>couldn't come up with anything better!
22:18:58  <rvagg>isaacs: if you have any better suggestions...
22:19:01  <isaacs>well, this one is like doing `module.exports = blah` and the other is like doing `exports.bloo = flerg` right?
22:19:15  <isaacs>or am i not groking it right?
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22:20:00  <isaacs>rvagg: also:
22:20:01  <isaacs>$ echo '`` `blerg`(blon`k) ``' | marked
22:20:01  <isaacs><p><code> `blerg`(blon`k) </code>
22:20:02  <isaacs></p>
22:20:14  <isaacs>rvagg: a double ` can escape single `s inside
22:20:17  <substack>isaacs: sorry I didn't make it
22:20:19  <substack>pesky bicycle
22:20:21  <rvagg>isaacs: yes, pretty much, this one gives you the ability to add things to `exports` or to overwrite it completely, IMO it should replace the old version but that's not feasible
22:20:24  <isaacs>substack: yeah, is no problem.
22:20:44  <isaacs>rvagg: the old one will live on, i'm sure.
22:20:48  <substack>I need to go to the hardware store to buy some tools and fasteners to fix this
22:20:50  <isaacs>rvagg: there are a zillion of blogs
22:21:05  <isaacs>substack: you could probably get a new bike from craigslist for a similar price.
22:21:11  <rvagg>isaacs: yeah, I know, that's fine, but it makes a naming problem
22:21:29  <isaacs>substack: but of course, hardware has more future utility, probably. give fish learn fishing etc.
22:21:53  <isaacs>rvagg: mind taking this to #libuv?
22:21:55  <substack>it's pretty simple mechanically to fix it
22:22:30  <substack>the problem is that the back tire's quick release can't hold the axel in place so the tire misaligns and rubs against the frame
22:22:41  <substack>can fix it with a piece of metal or wood
22:25:52  <chrisdickinson>isaacs: what sort of guarantees does the node repl provide, re: code you input not breaking the repl itself?
22:26:25  <isaacs>substack: you can also fix that with a new wheel, or a new bike.
22:26:29  <chrisdickinson>(basically, if i'm able to input something that crashes the repl on further inputs reliably every time, is that a bug?)
22:26:35  * isaacsis a proponent of disposable culture
22:26:50  <isaacs>chrisdickinson: i don't know. post a bug with a test case.
22:26:59  <isaacs>chrisdickinson: worst case, we'll close it with a WONTFIX
22:27:14  <isaacs>best case, it'll get fixed. somewhere in betwee, we'll document the oddness.
22:27:17  <chrisdickinson>cool. will do. has to do with what happens when someone puts in "Math = {}"
22:27:34  <chrisdickinson>then if you type anything else when you get a new prompt, it'll crash
22:27:36  <isaacs>chrisdickinson: oh, clobbering global stuff?
22:27:40  <chrisdickinson>yeah
22:27:56  <isaacs>chrisdickinson: yeah, check out what happens if you do `undefined = {}`
22:28:03  <isaacs>node doesn't swallow that nicely :)9
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22:28:22  <chrisdickinson>cool :) guessing that's a wontfix, then. just wanted to check; i'm mentoring someone in JS and they put that in and things went haywire quickly.
22:32:17  <substack>isaacs: the problem isn't the wheel, it's how the wheel latches onto the frame
22:32:36  <substack>isaacs: not all of us have disposable income to throw at disposable things
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22:37:22  <isaacs>fair enough. but last i checked, you could get pretty cheap bikes from craigslist.
22:37:27  <isaacs>your time isn't free
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22:41:47  <defunctzombie>haha
22:42:16  <substack>you don't pay yourself for the time you spend
22:42:36  <substack>I always found that way of thinking about money to completely break down at the low end
22:46:39  <CoverSlide>that rhymes!
22:48:01  <substack>FACT
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22:59:59  <Raynos>Is there a recursive npm install ?
23:00:08  <Raynos>I have package.json's nested in my folders because I have a big app (TM)
23:00:27  <Raynos>and need a way to localize dependencies without everything going into one package
23:01:33  <Raynos>i.e. how does npm deal with node_modules folders and that are not within the node_modules folder at the same level as package.json
23:05:20  <defunctzombie>Raynos: as far as I know there is no recursive install
23:05:26  <defunctzombie>but you can use the npm api to do it iirc
23:05:45  <defunctzombie>Raynos: the node_modules thing is pretty simple, node will start at your file and work up the tree iirc
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23:13:07  <Raynos>dominictarr, defunctzombie_zz: https://github.com/Raynos/insert#working-with-widgets
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23:19:43  <substack>hooray I figured out how to disable that annoying graphical login screen
23:19:53  <substack>turns out it's called lightdm not gdm
23:20:04  <substack>so merely disabling gdm did nothing
23:20:10  <CoverSlide>what distro?
23:20:12  <substack>yay less moving parts now
23:20:14  <substack>ubuntu
23:20:21  <CoverSlide>oh :\
23:20:42  <substack>now I just log in at the /bin/login prompt and type xinit if I want graphical crap
23:20:59  <substack>and then it executes exactly my .xinitrc file and nothing else
23:21:06  <CoverSlide>i usually just set my kernel to runlevel 3
23:21:19  <substack>I hate the idea of runlevels to start with
23:21:41  <CoverSlide>agreed
23:21:52  <substack>hopefully this annoying focus bug I've been having will finally go away now
23:22:04  <substack>now that there are far fewer moving parts that can fuck up
23:23:10  <substack>and if I want to customize something it's not totally opaque like usual
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23:52:27  <dominictarr>this looks really good http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast,_Cheap_and_Out_of_Control
23:52:54  <substack>paul_irish: chrome should not cache anything on localhost by default
23:53:08  <substack>I have been bitten by stupid caching bullshit so many times developing locally
23:53:27  <chrisdickinson>substack: you can turn off caching in the web developer toolbar
23:53:32  <substack>how
23:53:45  <chrisdickinson>it's not super discoverable, but if you click on the gear in the lower right hand side of the toolbar, a pane will come up with options
23:53:52  <chrisdickinson>one of the options is to disable the cache
23:54:26  <CryptoQuick>oh sweet, user agent spoofing
23:54:44  <CryptoQuick>including mobile UA's
23:55:08  <substack>but how do I turn it off *forever*
23:55:12  <chrisdickinson>CryptoQuick: if you use firefox nightly's dev tools, they also include the ability to change the viewport to match several device sizes and orientations
23:55:17  <substack>the problem is that I can never be sure whether something is cached or not
23:55:25  <chrisdickinson>substack: that'll turn it off whenever you have the toolbar open, i do believe
23:55:38  <chrisdickinson>but yeah, "forever" might be a nice option to hve
23:55:42  <chrisdickinson>s/hve/have/g
23:55:47  <CryptoQuick>chrisdickinson: neat, I do have aurora installed
23:55:58  <substack>it should be irrevokable and permanent
23:56:04  <substack>when I turn the cache off it should stay off
23:57:01  <chrisdickinson>substack: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/cache-killer/jpfbieopdmepaolggioebjmedmclkbap
23:57:40  <mbalho>you have to keep dev tools open for the Disable cache to work
23:57:42  <substack>I hate cache so much
23:57:43  <mbalho>in chrome
23:57:55  <substack>it's one of those features that makes me want to throw away computers
23:58:03  <mbalho>but steve souders....
23:58:38  <substack>awww yea that extension looks perfect
23:58:43  <substack>mbalho: internet is fast now
23:58:47  <CryptoQuick>heh, the fastest cache is the local cache
23:58:48  <substack>somebody go tell steve souders
23:59:05  <CryptoQuick>;D