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00:08:33  <defunctzombie>kde feels snappier than before
00:08:42  <defunctzombie>still looks kinda shitty tho
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00:47:54  <fotoverite>Nobody likes IDE'S
00:48:14  <fotoverite>also need to hit a cafe tomorrow. Spent the last day and a half at home due to massive hangover. :(
00:49:29  <chrisdickinson>having to use pip + virtualenv after using nothing but npm for months is like rubbing salt in my eyes.
00:49:36  <chrisdickinson>(that is all.)
00:49:51  <fotoverite>I still can't figure out pip. Is pip before or after easy install?
00:50:06  <chrisdickinson>it's the successor.
00:51:41  <chrisdickinson>it's better than easy_install, especially since it actually provides an uninstall, but it's still… well, the expected usage is that you create an entire new install of python (a virtualenv) per project, and then use pip to install projects into it (with all packages available to all other packages.)
00:52:03  <chrisdickinson>oh, and there's no one to one match between project name and installed package name.
00:52:13  <chrisdickinson>and the configuration file is executable python.
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01:02:20  <fotoverite>It could be xml. :/
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02:51:46  <Raynos>oh hi!
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03:56:50  <niftylettuce_>HERRO EVERY BODY THAT DOES THE NODEZIES
03:56:50  <LOUDBOT>YO MOMMA IS SO FAT THAT HER GRAVITATIONAL WELL HAS SLOWED DOWN LIGHT ENOUGH THAT SHE STILL THINKS THAT MIR IS IN ORBIT
03:57:02  <niftylettuce_>YO MOMMA IS SO FAT SHE CAN EAT ALL THE NPM MODULES
03:57:02  <LOUDBOT>HELLO DONGHOSS HOW ARE YOU TODAY
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14:13:40  <juliangruber>http://secretvolcanobase.org/~tef/distributed_social_networks.txt
14:19:52  <jan____>the challenge is to come with the counter plan. cynical remarks on why stuff wouldn’t work are easy as cake. The hard part is making it work regardless.
14:21:19  <jan____>collary, every successful endeavour looks impossible from the outset.
14:21:30  <jan____>that word is not what I thought it was
14:21:47  <jan____>corollary
14:22:57  <juliangruber>such posts are great because they show problems you might not yet have thought about
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14:24:13  <juliangruber>most important for me was that solving it technically won't get you any users
14:25:44  <guybrush>users of a distributed social network are not your users anyway
14:26:02  <jan____>Heh, sure, I have thought about this for about five years now, I think I know all the problems involved, except the ones one finds on execution
14:26:27  <jan____>maybe seven
14:27:31  <juliangruber>if suddenly censoring becomes a massive problems bc of some governments, people will beg for this
14:28:08  <jan____>nope, “people” will be content with whatever the big players / governments give them
14:28:47  <guybrush>just look at facebook, "people" just use it because why? haha
14:29:51  <juliangruber>hm, right
14:30:29  <juliangruber>and I guess "offline" isn't that big of a selling point any more
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14:42:57  <jan____>it is not a selling point at all
14:43:11  <jan____>c.f. Steve Jobs to Dropbox: You are a feature, not a product.
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15:34:39  <jez0990___>but Lotus Notes is still making pretty damn good business....?
15:39:06  <jan____>true, but LN is not a social network
15:42:14  <jez0990___>I don't think Big Blue knows what its got
15:42:45  <jan____>that’S why we made couch :)
15:43:29  <jez0990___>and I'm glad you did :)
15:44:01  <jez0990___>but it's just crazy that they've invested a rediculous amount in "Lotus Connections" rather than figuring out how to build the same thing using LN
15:44:25  <jan____>:)
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16:47:08  <jesusabdullah>SKEPTICAL
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23:33:13  <niftylettuce_>FIRST YOU DEFLATE THEIR TIRES
23:33:13  <LOUDBOT> ZOMFG DID YOU KNOW THE TURTLE IS THE POSTGRESQL ANIMAL IN JAPAN.
23:33:15  <niftylettuce_>THEN THEY CANT DRIVE THEIR CAR
23:33:15  <LOUDBOT>I CANNOT WAIT FOR MY LARD TO MELT
23:33:22  <niftylettuce_>MYSQL INJECTIONS ARE THE EASIEST WAY IN
23:33:22  <LOUDBOT>LETS PUT A FRIED EGG ON TOP STEAK
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