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| <Raynos> | substack: let me know when you alive |
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| <Raynos> | dominictarr: its gogogo time |
| 00:01:37
| <dominictarr> | YO READY! |
| 00:01:47
| <dominictarr> | substack, YOU THERE |
| 00:02:01
| <dominictarr> | Raynos, where are you at |
| 00:02:06
| <Raynos> | joyent |
| 00:02:07
| <dominictarr> | you guys both at joyent? |
| 00:02:08
| <Raynos> | head quarters |
| 00:02:13
| <Raynos> | substack is lost in action |
| 00:02:18
| <Raynos> | CODE RUSH |
| 00:02:25
| <dominictarr> | okay, well guess we get started. |
| 00:02:42
| <Raynos> | ok |
| 00:02:48
| <dominictarr> | so... top down thing where we can walk around? |
| 00:02:49
| <Raynos> | how do we split up the starting work |
| 00:02:57
| <Raynos> | theres a bunch fo bullshit |
| 00:03:06
| <Raynos> | with setting up shoe / mdm / crdt / http server / index.html etc |
| 00:03:19
| <Raynos> | but yes we need a map |
| 00:03:30
| <Raynos> | and we need sprites that are movable |
| 00:03:35
| <Raynos> | and distribute data about positions and shit |
| 00:03:59
| <Raynos> | so one of us should set up the communication bullshit |
| 00:04:04
| <Raynos> | and one of us should set up a map thing |
| 00:04:07
| <Raynos> | with tiles or something |
| 00:04:22
| <Raynos> | communication bullshit is pretty simple. we use what we always use |
| 00:04:26
| <Raynos> | the GUI part is kinda harder |
| 00:04:31
| <Raynos> | its SVG vs DOM vs canvas |
| 00:04:36
| <dominictarr> | lets just do a flat canvas with pngs that move |
| 00:04:45
| <Raynos> | alternatively SVG |
| 00:04:48
| <Raynos> | with svg images moving around |
| 00:04:58
| <Raynos> | since substack is doing the art |
| 00:05:04
| <Raynos> | I would ask him what he things is easier |
| 00:05:05
| <dominictarr> | whatever, just do something super-minimal |
| 00:05:13
| <Raynos> | true. |
| 00:05:29
| <dominictarr> | the data model is the important thing... |
| 00:05:38
| <Raynos> | agreed |
| 00:05:39
| <dominictarr> | I havn't done SVG |
| 00:05:58
| <dominictarr> | but I've done canvas, |
| 00:06:01
| <dominictarr> | and easle. |
| 00:06:06
| <dominictarr> | what about you? |
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| <dominictarr> | are we ment to push this to the nko repo? |
| 00:06:56
| <Raynos> | yeah |
| 00:07:00
| <Raynos> | i think all code goes on that repo |
| 00:07:08
| <Raynos> | ive used canvas |
| 00:07:11
| <Raynos> | and svg |
| 00:07:12
| <Raynos> | not easle |
| 00:07:18
| <Raynos> | but its cool I can wing most of these things |
| 00:07:26
| <Raynos> | lets geek out about the data model instead |
| 00:07:31
| <Raynos> | and punt on UI till substack gets here |
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| <Raynos> | I think we should have a crdt.Doc of entities |
| 00:08:37
| <Raynos> | and maybe a seperate IRC room |
| 00:10:08
| <dominictarr> | setting up the repo now |
| 00:10:15
| <Raynos> | cool |
| 00:10:24
| <Raynos> | I have it cloned |
| 00:11:02
| <dominictarr> | okay, I just pushed an initial commit |
| 00:11:39
| <Raynos> | to your fork? |
| 00:11:47
| <Raynos> | ah to the real thing |
| 00:11:47
| <dominictarr> | to the main module. |
| 00:12:08
| <dominictarr> | I think it will be faster not to use PR, just use branches. |
| 00:12:29
| <Raynos> | yeah |
| 00:12:30
| <Raynos> | probably |
| 00:13:28
| <Raynos> | ok |
| 00:13:43
| <dominictarr> | pushed |
| 00:14:05
| <Raynos> | btw do we even need a server? |
| 00:14:09
| <Raynos> | we can just p2p the hell out of it |
| 00:15:15
| <Raynos> | pushed |
| 00:15:55
| <dominictarr> | pushed to the nko repo or to Raynos/wizard-game? |
| 00:16:07
| <Raynos> | pushed now |
| 00:16:25
| <dominictarr> | got it, cool |
| 00:16:56
| <dominictarr> | a human is just a type of entity |
| 00:17:10
| <dominictarr> | we'll need a server, |
| 00:17:20
| <dominictarr> | we'll get less latency that way |
| 00:17:46
| <Raynos> | ok |
| 00:17:57
| <Raynos> | should we add node_modules to .gitignore ? |
| 00:18:03
| <defunctzombie> | never |
| 00:18:05
| <Raynos> | I guess it doesnt matter |
| 00:19:57
| <dominictarr> | I've already commited node_modules |
| 00:20:10
| <Raynos> | pushed. |
| 00:20:41
| <dominictarr> | I didn't get anything |
| 00:20:46
| <dominictarr> | did you puhs to master? |
| 00:20:59
| <Raynos> | yeah |
| 00:21:00
| <Raynos> | I did |
| 00:21:01
| <Raynos> | now |
| 00:21:04
| <Raynos> | I keep messing up |
| 00:21:37
| <Raynos> | oh god 2 spaces. |
| 00:22:58
| <dominictarr> | you'd pref 4? |
| 00:23:02
| <dominictarr> | I can do 4 |
| 00:23:14
| <Raynos> | both me and stack use 4 |
| 00:25:03
| <dominictarr> | lets make it 4 then |
| 00:25:32
| <Raynos> | feck |
| 00:25:42
| <dominictarr> | pushed to 4 spaces |
| 00:25:47
| <dominictarr> | what happened? |
| 00:25:52
| <Raynos> | browserify is borked :P |
| 00:25:59
| <Raynos> | string_decoder |
| 00:27:28
| <dominictarr> | oh, use my fork |
| 00:27:46
| <dominictarr> | substack has merged that, or try reinstall |
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| <Raynos> | pushed |
| 00:28:40
| <defunctzombie> | there should be an irc channel for knockout if there isn't :) |
| 00:29:01
| <Raynos> | set up live-reload and file watchers in Makefile. Use if you want |
| 00:29:22
| <Raynos> | did substack die? |
| 00:29:53
| <Raynos> | ill start on rendering people things |
| 00:31:26
| <dominictarr> | okay I got something on the screen |
| 00:31:28
| <dominictarr> | pushed |
| 00:31:46
| <dominictarr> | okay, if you wanna get drawing working |
| 00:31:52
| <dominictarr> | I'll write the models. |
| 00:32:07
| <Raynos> | :D |
| 00:32:16
| <dominictarr> | like... colored circles or something would do. |
| 00:32:21
| <Raynos> | you havnt pushed |
| 00:35:22
| <dominictarr> | PUSHED |
| 00:35:39
| <Raynos> | pushed |
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| <dominictarr> | substack where are u |
| 00:36:08
| <Raynos> | substack is here |
| 00:37:18
| <dominictarr> | pushed |
| 00:37:27
| <dominictarr> | hey substack |
| 00:37:46
| <dominictarr> | how big should the world be? |
| 00:39:55
| <Raynos> | infinite? :D |
| 00:40:04
| <Raynos> | btw maybe we want https://github.com/substack/tilemap |
| 00:40:11
| <Raynos> | which is svg and rapheal |
| 00:40:15
| <Raynos> | Rapheal is super easy |
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| <dominictarr> | do we have tiles? we can, but think it might be a nice to have, compared to game mech. |
| 00:43:28
| <dominictarr> | use whatever you want though. |
| 00:43:54
| <dominictarr> | is it allowed to CP code into the project from another old project? |
| 00:44:03
| <dominictarr> | (it was public) |
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| <Raynos> | maybe |
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| <Raynos> | sure |
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| <Raynos> | do it |
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| <dominictarr> | better idea, I'll just publish the module |
| 00:47:49
| <dominictarr> | okay GTG it's my talk |
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| <Raynos> | ok |
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| <substack> | pow |
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| <substack> | dominictarr: I think not using tiles will be better |
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| <substack> | dominictarr: we made our own forks since the nko3 repo is dumb |
| 01:10:31
| <substack> | people should have their own forks |
| 01:10:45
| <substack> | multiple commiters on a single projects makes me violently angry |
| 01:11:23
| <substack> | everybody should just occasionally git push -f to the nko3 repo |
| 01:11:31
| <substack> | thrash it hard with merge conflict overwrites |
| 01:12:08
| <substack> | dominictarr: fork this repo instead https://github.com/Raynos/wizard-game |
| 01:17:02
| <AvianFlu> | substack: dominictarr: ping me if you guys need any deploy help during the contest |
| 01:21:27
| <dominictarr> | substack, so, we fork repos and then push force occasionally? |
| 01:22:52
| <Raynos> | yes |
| 01:23:09
| <Raynos> | I need to bank things |
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| <substack> | dominictarr: https://github.com/Raynos/wizard-game https://github.com/substack/wizard-game |
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| <substack> | scripts fixed |
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| <substack> | git pull substack master; `npm run build-dev` or `npm run build-dev-watch` |
| 01:45:16
| <substack> | don't check in the bundle either, that file thrashes a lot and merge conflicts are hellish |
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| <guybrush> | i dont have any idea how to install a db or sth.. |
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| <guybrush> | dont want to waste any time with setting something up .. |
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| <substack> | use something like iriscouch |
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| <Raynos> | domincitarr: ping? |
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| <Raynos> | substack: http://teh-wizzards-of-stre.nko3.jit.su/ |
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| <chapel> | Raynos: not sure what is going on there? |
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| <Raynos> | its just blocks |
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| <Raynos> | that move around |
| 07:23:06
| <Raynos> | thats all |
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| <substack> | really neat |
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| <chapel> | in reverse |
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| <substack> | https://github.com/substack/energy-relay |
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| <Raynos> | chapel: you dont move in reverse! |
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| <dominictarr> | Raynos, substack are you guys still up? |
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| <substack> | I am! |
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| <substack> | I'm drawing wizard sprites |
| 09:30:17
| <substack> | dominictarr: http://teh-wizzards-of-stre.nko3.jit.su/ |
| 09:30:33
| <substack> | raynos got the basic canvas motion working pretty well |
| 09:31:06
| <dominictarr> | needs chat |
| 09:31:07
| <substack> | I wrote a module for the attack game dynamics https://github.com/substack/energy-relay |
| 09:31:12
| <dominictarr> | yeah, looks good |
| 09:31:15
| <substack> | yes but it should be proximity chat I think |
| 09:31:17
| <substack> | chat radius |
| 09:31:26
| <substack> | oh maybe chat bubbles over the characters |
| 09:31:30
| <dominictarr> | exactly |
| 09:33:20
| <substack> | another thing is when you get close enough to interact with items they should change color |
| 09:33:35
| <substack> | perhaps a bright circle underneath |
| 09:43:07
| <dominictarr> | I'm gonna have a nap, |
| 09:51:42
| <substack> | front and back sprites complete |
| 09:52:04
| <substack> | http://substack.net/images/wizard_sprite.svg |
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| <jiang-plus> | Hi substack. I found a project called browserify-chrome. https://github.com/GoogleChrome/browserify-chrome |
| 10:59:29
| <jiang-plus> | The chrome team seems to make browserify available to the Chrome apps |
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| <substack> | jiang-plus: yep I got an email from the guy doing that |
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| <substack> | paul_irish is also on the chrome team and he's in this very channel |
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| <jiang-plus> | Good morning |
| 12:03:27
| <jiang-plus> | I guess it is 7:00 am there |
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| <substack> | 04:08 PST |
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| <LOUDBOT> | substack: THE DICK IS COMING FROM INSIDE YOUR BUTT |
| 12:11:27
| <substack> | LOUDBOT: what |
| 12:11:27
| <LOUDBOT> | substack: BUT IT HAS STATUE OF LIBERTY FALLING |
| 12:11:33
| <substack> | silly robot |
| 12:12:14
| <substack> | wizard sprites complete http://substack.net/images/wizard_sprite.svg |
| 12:13:14
| <jiang-plus> | so cute |
| 12:14:19
| <substack> | jiang-plus: are you doing node knockout? |
| 12:14:38
| <jiang-plus> | what? |
| 12:15:10
| <jiang-plus> | I dont know any thing called node knockout |
| 12:17:21
| <substack> | it's a big 48 hour hackathon for node.js |
| 12:17:32
| <substack> | it's going on right now and I'm on a team with dominictarr and Raynos |
| 12:17:55
| <substack> | that's what the wizard sprites are for |
| 12:17:56
| <jiang-plus> | oh,really? where? |
| 12:18:17
| <substack> | it's international and distributed |
| 12:18:44
| <substack> | there are also lots of folks meeting up to compete in san francisco, new york, paris |
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| <substack> | http://nodeknockout.com/ |
| 12:23:58
| <jiang-plus> | I am looking at it |
| 12:24:01
| <substack> | here's our current entry but it's still early http://teh-wizzards-of-stre.nko3.jit.su/ |
| 12:24:42
| <jiang-plus> | It seems that I cannot join in now |
| 12:25:09
| <substack> | yeah it already started |
| 12:25:55
| <substack> | ok now the wizard sprites are split into multiple files |
| 12:26:03
| <substack> | now adding them to the game |
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| <jiang-plus> | I am reading through the nodeknockout.com, the website is interesting and the hackthon seems to be well organized. |
| 12:42:56
| <jiang-plus> | I'll join hackthon like this next time, it is funny. |
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| <mbalho> | substack: AHAHAHA WIZARD SPRITES |
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| <substack> | crap getting this deployed is tricky |
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| <guybrush> | waah we getting close to ship first alpha-version :DDDD |
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| <substack> | dammit I just want to see my wizard animation not this noise about broken deploys |
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| <substack> | hooray http://teh-wizzards-of-stre.nko3.jit.su/ |
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| <substack> | mbalho: ^^^ |
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| <substack> | phase 2 involves more sprites |
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| <substack> | second wizard set nearly done |
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| <substack> | I'll make a third then the rocks, monsters, and trees |
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| <substack> | then re-programming game objects yay |
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| <mbalho> | substack: the tld wizard.jobs is available for only 99/yr |
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| <mbalho> | unfortunately wizard.asia is taken |
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| <mbalho> | also wizards.asia is taken |
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| <mbalho> | but wizardsin.asia is available |
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| <dominictarr> | substack, I awaken. what is the repo i should pull from for most up to date? |
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| <dominictarr> | Raynos, |
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| <dominictarr> | FUCK! just trying to add a textarea to the page, but raphael won't play nice |
| 18:01:09
| <mbalho> | y u use raphael for textarea |
| 18:02:03
| <dominictarr> | no, I use html for text area |
| 18:02:24
| <mbalho> | ahh |
| 18:02:24
| <dominictarr> | but raph refuses to be a normal element, wants to be absolute |
| 18:02:27
| <mbalho> | raphael kidna sucks |
| 18:02:47
| <dominictarr> | it adds itself to the dom |
| 18:03:03
| <dominictarr> | instead of just letting me attach it where I want it to go. |
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| <dominictarr> | substack, hey |
| 18:07:16
| <substack> | dominictarr: pull from me |
| 18:07:52
| <substack> | http://teh-wizzards-of-stre.nko3.jit.su/ |
| 18:07:57
| <substack> | ^ what you will get |
| 18:08:22
| <dominictarr> | awesome |
| 18:08:35
| <dominictarr> | I've been adding a textarea |
| 18:08:41
| <dominictarr> | when you click on a entity |
| 18:09:06
| <dominictarr> | you can see it's code (at the moment, it's JSON) in the text area. |
| 18:09:06
| <substack> | sweet! |
| 18:09:43
| <dominictarr> | I patched Raynos/screen |
| 18:09:47
| <dominictarr> | tell him to merge |
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| <substack> | when I see him |
| 18:11:35
| <substack> | finishing up multi-colored wizards |
| 18:11:39
| <substack> | purple, orange, green |
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| <dominictarr> | substack, you need a frame where the wizard is unconcious |
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| <dominictarr> | for when his energy is all gone |
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| <substack> | unconscious wizards could be glowing orbs |
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| <Raynos> | dominictarr: give Rapheal an element |
| 18:19:02
| <Raynos> | in the constructor in ui/world.js |
| 18:19:09
| <Raynos> | and it should be relatively positioned |
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| <substack> | Raynos: http://teh-wizzards-of-stre.nko3.jit.su/ |
| 18:22:52
| <Raynos> | epic |
| 18:24:59
| <dominictarr> | Raynos, yeah I tried that |
| 18:25:06
| <dominictarr> | didn't seem to work |
| 18:25:18
| <dominictarr> | pull my branch, and see what I've done. |
| 18:25:32
| <dominictarr> | like, I tried to create a div and git it to Raphael |
| 18:25:44
| <dominictarr> | ... but maybe because it wasn't in the dom yet |
| 18:25:51
| <Raynos> | You can also just refactor the SOB |
| 18:25:53
| <Raynos> | and use SVG directly |
| 18:25:55
| <dominictarr> | (was trying to follow your pattern) |
| 18:26:12
| <dominictarr> | well, I just wanted to get a textarea in there... |
| 18:26:22
| <dominictarr> | which I did eventually |
| 18:26:26
| <Raynos> | :) |
| 18:26:28
| <dominictarr> | just had to abs position it |
| 18:26:31
| <Raynos> | ill look at it in a sec |
| 18:27:56
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| 18:30:17
| <dominictarr> | also, checkout magic.js for my ideas about the user api |
| 18:31:21
| <dominictarr> | another thing we need, is a bar/graph showing how much wizzard power you have |
| 18:31:41
| <dominictarr> | idea: you have stats, and you can spend power to upgrade them |
| 18:34:18
| <Raynos> | I kinda want to focus on MVP |
| 18:34:21
| <Raynos> | on fun |
| 18:34:51
| <substack> | dominictarr: cat config/items.json |
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| <substack> | orange wizard sprites colored |
| 18:37:16
| <substack> | http://substack.net/images/wizard_sprite.svg |
| 18:37:33
| <substack> | next green then rocks, trees, monsters |
| 18:42:35
| <dominictarr> | substack, stats looks good |
| 18:43:54
| <substack> | dominictarr: did you see https://github.com/substack/energy-relay ? |
| 18:44:14
| <substack> | attack/defend logic |
| 18:44:57
| <dominictarr> | looks kinda complicated |
| 18:45:08
| <dominictarr> | can't it just be one function? |
| 18:45:18
| <dominictarr> | like attack(other) |
| 18:45:37
| <substack> | perhaps |
| 18:45:39
| <dominictarr> | and then it, haah, throws if the attack failed, |
| 18:45:50
| <dominictarr> | I want people not to have to bebug |
| 18:45:52
| <substack> | attacks take time |
| 18:46:03
| <dominictarr> | async? |
| 18:46:06
| <substack> | yes |
| 18:46:40
| <dominictarr> | back to the server? |
| 18:46:56
| <dominictarr> | could we just make it sync and run all the code on the server? |
| 18:47:10
| <dominictarr> | (all the user code) |
| 18:48:40
| <substack> | possible but user code might do a lot of shit |
| 18:50:26
| <dominictarr> | can't we restrict that with stackedy? |
| 18:50:43
| <dominictarr> | what if we just band while and for? |
| 18:50:59
| <dominictarr> | and hide setTimeout, etc |
| 18:52:10
| <dominictarr> | okay. I'll be back online in a bit! |
| 18:52:55
| <substack> | that would be slow as fuck to use stackeyd |
| 18:53:38
| <substack> | just run code in people's browsers |
| 18:53:40
| <substack> | that scales |
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| <substack> | crazy idea: use people's browsers as a botnet to run all the entity code |
| 18:59:03
| <substack> | that way the more users join the more cpu capacity we'll have |
| 18:59:11
| <substack> | auto-scaling |
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| <AvianFlu> | substack: clever! |
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| <Raynos> | substack: heading your way |
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| <Raynos> | substack: where you live? |
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| <substack> | Raynos: 3276 logan street |
| 19:33:29
| <substack> | get off at fruitvale bart and head north on fruitvale avenue to logan street, then east for half a block up a big hill |
| 19:35:53
| <substack> | Raynos: do you have a bike? |
| 19:35:59
| <Raynos> | nope |
| 19:36:07
| <substack> | ok that's fine I'll be making tacos anyways |
| 19:36:15
| <substack> | it's pretty close to the part station too |
| 19:36:16
| <substack> | *bart |
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| <substack> | green and orange wizards done, integrating |
| 20:26:10
| <substack> | then coloring all the other players with wizards |
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| <substack> | Raynos: what do these `global:` comment things do? |
| 20:31:17
| <substack> | seems weird I'm going to delete them |
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| <st_luke> | where do I buy gold bars |
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| <Raynos> | substack: https://github.com/Raynos/unpack-element#example |
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| <substack> | yo dominictarr |
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| <Raynos> | sup |
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| <substack> | dominictarr: so I think we shouldn't run any user code on the server |
| 21:35:31
| <dominictarr> | hey whats happinging - chaos - but I'm in the saddle properly |
| 21:35:42
| <substack> | we can just use people's browsers as a botnet |
| 21:35:52
| <substack> | and randomly assign them javascript snippets to run |
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| <substack> | that should scale pretty well I think |
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| <substack> | since the more users there are, the more bots in the net |
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| <substack> | the more users play the game, the faster it gets |
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| <dominictarr> | okay, well either way, I'm gonna work on the user magic api now, if you guys havn't started on that. |
| 21:37:29
| <Raynos> | https://gist.github.com/4052616 |
| 21:37:38
| <dominictarr> | I just pulled the latest, |
| 21:37:42
| <Raynos> | havn't started it yet |
| 21:37:59
| <substack> | sweet, the magic api needs to happen |
| 21:38:08
| <dominictarr> | cool. |
| 21:38:18
| <substack> | attack, transfer, upload |
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| <dominictarr> | and move |
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| <dominictarr> | and say |
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| <substack> | right |
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| <substack> | sounds good |
| 21:38:44
| <dominictarr> | say prints message above your head |
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| <dominictarr> | and hear(function (message, speaker){...}) |
| 21:39:13
| <dominictarr> | lets you respond to things entities say |
| 21:39:47
| <dominictarr> | Raynos, I made world into an event emitter |
| 21:39:59
| <Raynos> | dominictarr: I fixed screen so its ane vent emiter |
| 21:40:10
| <dominictarr> | cool, good. |
| 21:40:34
| <dominictarr> | I need a way to access the entities that is decoupled from the drawing |
| 21:40:42
| <dominictarr> | I only want to update their props. |
| 21:41:08
| <Raynos> | well the entities in the entities folder |
| 21:41:11
| <Raynos> | aren't actual entities |
| 21:41:15
| <Raynos> | they are just drawing things |
| 21:41:15
| <dominictarr> | hmm, best to to just emit them when they are created, so that the magic api can grab them. |
| 21:41:22
| <Raynos> | so we should move that shit somewhere else |
| 21:41:26
| <Raynos> | and have actual entities |
| 21:41:32
| <dominictarr> | If I change the rows x/y will the drawing update? |
| 21:41:42
| <Raynos> | should do |
| 21:42:00
| <dominictarr> | where are new entities added? |
| 21:42:38
| <Raynos> | currently nowhere |
| 21:42:39
| <Raynos> | but |
| 21:42:42
| <Raynos> | https://gist.github.com/4052616 |
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| <Raynos> | there is going to be a generator |
| 21:42:51
| <Raynos> | that generates new entities as you move around the world |
| 21:42:57
| <Raynos> | and there I will randomly generate something |
| 21:43:07
| <dominictarr> | where is the code that adds the ones we have? |
| 21:43:38
| <Raynos> | in server.js |
| 21:43:45
| <Raynos> | mock function |
| 21:43:56
| <dominictarr> | why is it called mock? |
| 21:44:26
| <dominictarr> | right, got it. I'll just update listen to the model directly... |
| 21:45:13
| <Raynos> | becuase it creates mock data |
| 21:45:15
| <Raynos> | :P |
| 21:47:35
| <dominictarr> | okay. |
| 21:49:55
| <dominictarr> | substack, I'm not seeing any player sprites |
| 21:50:48
| <substack> | dominictarr: what about on http://teh-wizzards-of-stre.nko3.jit.su/ ? |
| 21:51:27
| <dominictarr> | that one is good, but not when I pull |
| 21:51:44
| <dominictarr> | good drawing, btw |
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| <Raynos> | pull from either one of us? |
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| <dominictarr> | how do I use live-reload? |
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| <dominictarr> | still no player |
| 22:00:39
| <substack> | fixing merge conflicts |
| 22:00:56
| <substack> | yes I don't see a player once I merged from raynos |
| 22:01:03
| <Raynos> | I see |
| 22:01:54
| <Raynos> | Yeah |
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| <Raynos> | wizard is gone |
| 22:02:18
| <Raynos> | dominictarr: for live-reload just run the server (from Makefile) and use the /reload.html path |
| 22:02:51
| <dominictarr> | does that reload the server, or the client? |
| 22:03:21
| <dominictarr> | there is no Makefile |
| 22:03:42
| <dominictarr> | Raynos/master? |
| 22:04:03
| <substack> | pushed my stuff but I pulled from raynos so my wizard is gone |
| 22:04:09
| <Raynos> | Oh |
| 22:04:13
| <Raynos> | Yeah substack got rid of makefile |
| 22:04:20
| <Raynos> | I think there is live-reload in npm scripts too |
| 22:04:24
| <dominictarr> | there is a build script |
| 22:04:30
| <dominictarr> | does it restart the server? |
| 22:04:40
| <dominictarr> | because I already added a thing to reload the client. |
| 22:05:45
| <Raynos> | nope |
| 22:05:48
| <Raynos> | just reloads the browsers |
| 22:06:08
| <Raynos> | I need to fix the player thing |
| 22:06:09
| <Raynos> | cause its fucked |
| 22:06:25
| <dominictarr> | we are using this already https://npmjs.org/package/client-reloader |
| 22:06:38
| <dominictarr> | I wrote that earlier in the week for my cascadia talk |
| 22:07:44
| <Raynos> | thats different |
| 22:07:48
| <Raynos> | thats based on a version |
| 22:07:57
| <Raynos> | not on local files |
| 22:08:04
| <Raynos> | thats more useful in production environments |
| 22:08:18
| <Raynos> | if you dont want the live-reload thing ignore it |
| 22:08:31
| <substack> | ok I'm going to figure out how to use everybody's browsers as a giant botnet |
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| <substack> | I think a simple deterministic algorithm will do |
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| <substack> | isaacs: tacos soon |
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| <Raynos> | should have fixed that bug |
| 22:13:00
| <Raynos> | dominictarr: pull down and see if it works |
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| <substack> | confirmed |
| 22:14:44
| <substack> | pull from me too |
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| <substack> | pushed a viewer that uses the whole screen |
| 22:31:45
| <substack> | pull from me |
| 22:32:13
| <substack> | next up: drawing other players |
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| <substack> | pushed a fix to properly center the wizard |
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| <Raynos> | pushed! |
| 22:49:19
| <Raynos> | it now auto generates new stuff |
| 22:49:23
| <Raynos> | as you walka round the map |
| 22:49:32
| <Raynos> | domincitarr: hows it going? |
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| <dominictarr> | coming along, gonna have to patch crdt |
| 22:52:34
| <Raynos> | ok |
| 22:53:16
| <Raynos> | What is next to do |
| 22:53:28
| <substack> | source botnet |
| 22:53:38
| <substack> | set source params on entities in crdt |
| 22:54:08
| <substack> | and then have a deterministic algorithm to decide if the current browser should execute that source |
| 22:54:31
| <dominictarr> | substack, so how this gonna work: set a source prop, |
| 22:54:44
| <dominictarr> | then it gets evaled with globals hidden |
| 22:54:54
| <dominictarr> | and self = a wrapper around the row |
| 22:54:59
| <substack> | yes and with setTimeout and setInterval patched to keep the refs around so we can clear them |
| 22:55:19
| <dominictarr> | there is only a self.think(function (){...}) |
| 22:55:34
| <substack> | why? |
| 22:55:47
| <substack> | listen for events |
| 22:55:52
| <dominictarr> | the speed it ticks depends on how "smart" the thing is. |
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| <substack> | why not just listen on events and set timers and intervals? |
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| <dominictarr> | well, don't want to expose an event emitter |
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| <dominictarr> | I want to just show some certain functions |
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| <substack> | ok polling could work I suppose |
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| <dominictarr> | the events will be 'think' -> ticks |
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| <Raynos> | do we need to run this code in webworkers |
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| <dominictarr> | hear -> when something nearby says something |
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| <Raynos> | to stop it from runining the main game loop |
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| <dominictarr> | attacked -> when something attacks |
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| <Raynos> | dominictarr: It would be cool to see what / how your doing game mechanics |
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| <Raynos> | I think ill upgrade the text area |
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| <dominictarr> | I'll push what I got, but it's not running yet |
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| <Raynos> | to codemirror :D |
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| <dominictarr> | please do |
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| <substack> | makes sense to run the programs that users write in their own browsers |
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| <substack> | that way we don't need to protect against infinite loops |
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| <substack> | if you write an infinite loop your browser crashes |
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| <dominictarr> | hmm, but the programs need to interact. |
| 23:01:18
| <substack> | yes but they interact over crdt |
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| <substack> | or do we need a separate message bus? |
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| <dominictarr> | okay, so when someone attacks the other entity decides how to react |
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| <dominictarr> | like, it can just give the player the energy |
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| <dominictarr> | I like the idea of only interacting via crdt... |
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| <Raynos> | o/ |
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| <Raynos> | sounds good |
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| <Raynos> | WIZARDRY WIZARDRY STUFF |
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| <LOUDBOT> | OUR NEXT ACT, GUS! AND HIS SIDEKICK, BILLY THE DANCING AIDS |
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| <dominictarr> | Raynos, where does the view start following the objects? |
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| <Raynos> | ? |
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| <dominictarr> | I mean start drawing them |
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| <Raynos> | when they come in |
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| <dominictarr> | where is the code |
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| <Raynos> | ui/world |
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| <Raynos> | model.on("create" |
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| <Raynos> | and then the create function |
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| <dominictarr> | okay, I got a think moving... |
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| <Raynos> | pushed. Ace editor |
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| <Raynos> | dominictarr: feel free to refactor stuff. Code is messy |
| 23:22:29
| <dominictarr> | pull from me |
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| <dominictarr> | no time for refactoring |
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| <Raynos> | functions after the return are nice :P |
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| <dominictarr> | they are weird |
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| <dominictarr> | anyway, |
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| <dominictarr> | it's not important |
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| <dominictarr> | how do we tell it not to cache bundle.js? |
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| <dominictarr> | Raynos, I just see a normal textarea |
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| <Raynos> | pushed |
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| <Raynos> | you have bundle.js caching problems? |
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| <Raynos> | I dont |
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| <Raynos> | I see all monster types move around |
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| <dominictarr> | yup |
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| <dominictarr> | it's okay, |
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| <dominictarr> | Raynos, sometimes. |
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| <dominictarr> | onlf when changing to a new server. |
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| <dominictarr> | Raynos, the text size to way too small. |
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| <Raynos> | for the editor? |
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| <dominictarr> | ypu |
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| <dominictarr> | yes |
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| <dominictarr> | need space for error messages too |
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| <dominictarr> | substack, we need a scroll, or book thing. |
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| <dominictarr> | that the players can find and can explain how to play |
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| <Raynos> | we can use vertical space for errors |
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| <dominictarr> | pushed my stuff |
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| <dominictarr> | Raynos, agree |
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| <dominictarr> | we probably want a repl thingee for chat and one off commands |
| 23:45:29
| <Raynos> | maybe |
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| <Raynos> | what do we want for chat? |
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| <Raynos> | As in where in the UI should it go? |
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| <dominictarr> | it should appear above the player's head |
| 23:47:02
| <dominictarr> | it's part of the game |
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| <dominictarr> | the entities can 'hear' it |
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| <dominictarr> | so, you can program things to respond to messages |
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| <Raynos> | i mean where do you enter chats |
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| <Raynos> | I guess a REPL |
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| <substack> | I'll put talk bubbles in for the sprite refactor |
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| <substack> | currently working on it |
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| <Raynos> | chat("foo bar") |
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| <dominictarr> | we probably want to draw them with vectors so can make them the right size... |
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| <dominictarr> | Raynos, yeah |
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| <dominictarr> | idea: animals that you can feed (give energy to) and it becames your friend and follows you around. |
| 23:52:02
| <dominictarr> | what if the boy animals save up energy, a and then find a girl animal and then they put their energy together and create a baby animal. |
| 23:52:42
| <dominictarr> | make 'cows' that eat plans |
| 23:52:52
| <dominictarr> | and 'tigers' that eat cows. |
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| <substack> | that's a lot of art assets |
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| <substack> | dominictarr: get the code working for each of these and I'll draw them |
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| <dominictarr> | is there a way we can easily recolour things? |
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| <dominictarr> | or, just slap on different heads or something? |
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| <substack> | no |
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| <substack> | it's very labor intensive |
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| <dominictarr> | okay. |
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| <dominictarr> | we can scale them though, right? |
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| <substack> | yes they're svgs |
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| <dominictarr> | make a little tree that grows big? |
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