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03:54:49  <SubStack>bwahahaha
03:54:53  <SubStack>desk upgrade complete
03:55:03  <SubStack>adjustable too
03:58:39  <AvianFlu>EPIC WIN
03:58:39  <LOUDBOT>AND HI MR BOT!!
03:58:46  <AvianFlu>LOUDBOT, whosaid
03:58:46  <LOUDBOT>AvianFlu: Kenny in #megashark on
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03:59:00  <SubStack>spray painted silver
03:59:15  <SubStack>with neon pink clothesline and eyescrews holding it up
04:09:30  <SubStack>also, 50ft of hot neon pink clothesline is just $2.37
04:09:41  <SubStack>I spent $23, including a woodsaw
04:11:20  <dominictarr>and that is a gift for your grandchildren
04:11:34  <dominictarr>nice rant here http://www.drdobbs.com/architecture-and-design/interview-with-alan-kay/240003442?pgno=2
04:14:16  <SubStack>fuck yeah hypercard
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04:25:01  <dominictarr>on the next page: "It's like the problem Christian religions have with how to get Socrates into heaven, right? You can't go to heaven unless you're baptized. If anyone deserves to go to heaven, it's Socrates, so this is a huge problem."
04:27:33  <AvianFlu>dominictarr, the best thing about that is the renaissance
04:27:38  <AvianFlu>people like virgil
04:27:46  <AvianFlu>they had to like, make exceptions for the ancients
04:27:51  <AvianFlu>like in dante's inferno
04:28:05  <AvianFlu>"no, it's okay, they got exceptions for being awesome and living before jesus"
04:28:25  <AvianFlu>"they're not in hell like the heathens"
04:29:12  <dominictarr>exceptions proveth the rule
04:30:34  <dominictarr>mormons have a much simpler solution.
04:31:06  <dominictarr>they can just magically baptize someone post-humously
04:31:15  <AvianFlu>that's a neat trick!
04:31:34  <dominictarr>so simple, so effective.
04:32:09  <dominictarr>heaps of jews that died in the holocaust have now been teleported into mormon heaven.
04:32:16  <dominictarr>also ghandi
04:38:27  <AvianFlu>nice of them, really
04:38:41  <AvianFlu>it's certainly well-intentioned
04:39:55  <isaacs>you guys, the bible is quite clear on this
04:40:00  <isaacs>they're in Sheol, the grave
04:40:56  <isaacs>then when the horsey folks come and kill us all, and the giant 7-headed dragon named 666 comes and eats the world, the lamb will bleed on everything, and raise them from the dead, and they'll have a chance to say "Sure!" and go into heaven
04:41:14  <isaacs>it's totally straightforward and reasonable.
04:42:33  <isaacs>SubStack: you were talking about biking up to Lake Temescal this weekend? that happening?
04:47:13  <dominictarr>but what if god wanted to write a new bible?
04:47:27  <dominictarr>it would be helpful if he used semver.
04:48:00  <dominictarr>so we could know what version is compatible with what religion.
04:48:36  <dominictarr>the problem is that every one has "mono-thiestic-desert-religion": "*"
04:48:45  <dominictarr>in their dependencies.
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04:51:07  <AvianFlu>dominictarr, religious semver would be hilarious
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04:54:13  <dominictarr>I know a guy who gathered all the old perl tarballs and committed the code into a git repo in order, so you can see the whole histroy and changes.
04:54:22  <dominictarr>it would be kinda like that.
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05:07:04  <AvianFlu>dominictarr, sounds like a guy who needs his hobbies upgraded
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06:07:53  <SubStack>isaacs: depends on the temperature
06:24:58  <SubStack>new desk pix: http://substack.net/images/photo/2012-07-13_new_desk/
06:35:04  <isaacs>SubStack: yes, the internet says 70F
06:37:43  <SubStack>sweet!
06:37:45  <SubStack>tomorrow then?
06:38:00  <SubStack>I'll be planting trees until 14:00 so after then?
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07:22:24  <SubStack>oh crap!
07:22:28  <SubStack>upgrading manually
07:24:25  <SubStack>done!
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07:32:45  <SubStack>dominictarr: I just built this! http://substack.net/images/photo/2012-07-13_new_desk/2012-07-13-232014.jpg
07:32:58  <SubStack>I'm probably going to build a lot more things now
07:33:06  <SubStack>also bought a wood saw for $9
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07:36:09  <dominictarr>SubStack, nice desk. I had one link that when I lived on a boat.
07:36:38  <dominictarr>you never regret buying a decent saw.
07:36:55  <dominictarr>I have a nice japanese pull saw
07:37:20  <dominictarr>the teeth are setup to cut on the pull stroke, so the blade is under tension, so it can be thinner,
07:37:46  <dominictarr>so you don't need to move as much wood out of the way to cut through something.
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07:41:13  <dominictarr>SubStack, where did you get the wood?
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08:19:49  <SubStack>dominictarr: I just walked down to home depot
08:19:55  <SubStack>it's not far from stackhousey
08:20:00  <SubStack>and the wood was only $5
08:22:41  <dominictarr>ah, I always used to scrounge for wood when I was a student.
08:23:10  <dominictarr>built lots of furniture and a boat (!) that way.
08:23:45  <dominictarr>actually, there is a time honoured tradition of scrounging for wood in boat building.
08:23:50  <SubStack>yeah I've also scrounged plenty of stuff from under the mac arthur freeway underpass on west
08:24:06  <SubStack>that's where I got a lamp that I turned into a sweet microphone holder
08:24:35  <dominictarr>I rememeber reading about a frenchman who built a yacht entirely from scrounged wood, _during the nazi occupation or france.
08:24:49  <dominictarr>when the war ended, he sailed around the world in it.
08:25:09  <dominictarr>s/or/of
08:25:17  <SubStack>also I might be in china soon for a bit!
08:25:39  <SubStack>and japan in november
08:28:02  <dominictarr>CHINA
08:28:08  <dominictarr>what are you doing in china?
08:28:15  <SubStack>september if it happens
08:28:30  <SubStack>oh talking about node stuff I guess
08:29:03  <SubStack>being invited to give talks about things is a great excuse to travel to all sorts of zany places!
08:29:04  <dominictarr>you have been invited to speak at a conference?
08:29:14  <SubStack>yep
08:29:57  <dominictarr>ah, indeed. hanging out in china is probably pretty cheap too.
08:32:18  <SubStack>Ì've heard from a couch surfer that korea is also a sweet place to bum around
08:32:23  <SubStack>the beer is really cheap
08:33:05  <SubStack>and as a consequence everybody is drunk all the time
08:34:45  <dominictarr>and I can certainly testify for cambodia
08:35:24  <dominictarr>this guest house is $4 a night for my own room,
08:35:30  <dominictarr>and has wifi.
08:35:38  <dominictarr>what more could you ask?
08:35:39  <SubStack>whoa fuck yeah
08:36:26  <dominictarr>the most expensive I've paid is $8
08:36:34  <SubStack>how much gear are you lugging about southeast asia?
08:36:49  <dominictarr>very little.
08:37:07  <dominictarr>1 bag that I can take through carry on
08:37:15  <dominictarr>no check in luggage.
08:37:16  <SubStack>sweet
08:37:40  <dominictarr>you might as well just turn up in shorts and a t-shirt because you can buy anything here.
08:37:50  <dominictarr>i mean, this is where they make it.
08:38:25  <dominictarr>the only thing I've found you can't buy on the street is insect repellant.
08:39:43  <dominictarr>they also have the odd supermarket thing for rich people that is air conditioned and sells the same stuff of the street, but also personal hygine products.
08:40:01  <dominictarr>china is a lot further north though, will probably be a lot colder.
08:40:20  <dominictarr>(I'm assuming that your heading to Bejing, of course)
08:40:31  <SubStack>unsure where this thing is exactly
08:40:43  <SubStack>mikeal just forwarded me an email and I responded with "ok sure"
08:41:05  <SubStack>also!
08:41:14  <SubStack>submitting a jsconf.eu talk tonight
08:41:20  <SubStack>because why not
08:42:15  <AvianFlu>I'm submitting one too
08:42:23  <AvianFlu>it involves Secret Mad Science
08:42:29  <AvianFlu>you'll lulz, I promise
08:42:42  <SubStack>oh sweets
08:43:15  <dominictarr>SubStack, make sure you setup a proxy or something before you go, or you won't be able to tweet about your trip
08:43:47  <SubStack>well I can pretty easily set up an ssh tunnel through browserling
08:44:04  <dominictarr>what are you guys planning to talk on?
08:44:45  <SubStack>I was going to submit a talk about code as a collage
08:45:22  <SubStack>and how to take pieces of code out of an application
08:45:30  <SubStack>to release as a stand-alone module
08:45:58  <SubStack>but for the whole thing all the code is completely opaque
08:46:11  <SubStack>just using the outline of the code structure
08:46:40  <SubStack>all the characters are converted to blocks
08:46:49  <SubStack>blocks of text
08:47:35  <dominictarr>one more travel tip: http://wikitravel.org/
08:50:33  <SubStack>oh also I got invited to talk in dublin
08:50:36  <SubStack>that sounds pretty fun
08:51:22  <SubStack>dominictarr: also maxogden and I have been conspring to get you more notoriety
08:51:29  <SubStack>mux-demux was sort of a big deal at nodeconf
08:52:04  <dominictarr>oh yeah! I got an invite for dublin too!
08:52:18  <dominictarr>awesome
08:53:14  <dominictarr>posting issues like this every where is slowly building awareness
08:53:15  <dominictarr>https://github.com/josephg/ShareJS/issues
08:53:42  <dominictarr>i mean https://github.com/josephg/ShareJS/issues/110
08:54:11  <SubStack>I like how http://wikitravel.org/en/Greater_Tokyo has lots of protips for cheapskates
08:54:25  <SubStack>fuck yeah dublin!
08:55:40  <dominictarr>wikitravel is not only updated more frequently, but it also has more asides that would never make it into a printed guide
08:57:03  <dominictarr>SubStack, this guy has been a huge inspiration to me http://www.instructables.com/id/Bumcamping/
08:57:11  <dominictarr>(also, ho wrote ZORK!)
08:57:18  <SubStack>pretty much the hitchhiker's guide!
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08:59:29  <dominictarr>"If I'm really paranoid I'll disappear even more, pitch a tent and sleep in the scrub a few yards off to one side of it."
08:59:36  <SubStack>haha there is an aside about the voice actor who does the english announcements for the tokyo subway
09:00:23  <dominictarr>just need a wikitravel replica on a phone, or whatever
09:00:28  <SubStack>also awesome thing about japan I learned from an aljazeera segment is that everybody sleeps everywhere all the time
09:00:43  <SubStack>like at mcdonalds there are a ton of people just taking a nap
09:01:01  <SubStack>sounds like an easy/awesome place to be a vagrant
09:02:29  <SubStack>whoa fuck, japan is cheap now awesome
09:02:37  <SubStack>being close to china must rock
09:03:44  <SubStack>hahaha "1: They were too embarassed to attempt their English in front of co-workers. "
09:03:44  <SubStack>so awesome
09:03:57  <dominictarr>oh yeah, like a man looses his job,
09:04:22  <SubStack>fucking with countries with a high power distance sounds excellent
09:04:24  <dominictarr>but he doesn't tell his wife, he just gets dressed for work and goes into town, naps in the library or something
09:04:51  <SubStack>japan, u so silly
09:06:04  <dominictarr>she probably knows, from subtle signs, but doesn't mention it, as it would cause embarasment.
09:07:25  <SubStack>must be the passive aggressivest place on the planet
09:07:38  <SubStack>but super easy to take advantage of if you don't give a fuck
09:08:45  <dominictarr>I know a guy who accidentially brought the wrong size shoes.
09:08:55  <dominictarr>so he took them back
09:09:02  <dominictarr>but they where like "no returns"
09:09:19  <dominictarr>he was like fuck that, and threw a hissy fit.
09:09:39  <SubStack>social engineering japanese culture sounds really fun
09:09:51  <dominictarr>and they let him return the shoes.
09:10:11  <SubStack>haha
09:10:13  <SubStack>relevant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_distance#Dimensions_of_national_cultures
09:13:33  <SubStack>what about describe seems to be a particularly high uncertainty avoidance index
09:15:10  <chapel>SubStack: definitely about japan, if you are japanese you have to know and respect the honor and power status situation
09:15:27  <chapel>they tend to assume gaijin don't know anything about it
09:16:06  <SubStack>awesome
09:16:09  <chapel>my friend lives over there, for the last 8 years, and he still is treated as a foreigner even though he can speak fluent japanese and knows the culture
09:16:14  <SubStack>crazy exploitable
09:16:19  <chapel>definitely
09:16:44  <SubStack>also I have a beard so that should help with the looking like a foreigner thing
09:16:55  <chapel>how tall are you?
09:17:03  <SubStack>5'10"
09:17:05  <chapel>height definitely plays a part
09:17:11  <chapel>you'll be taller on average
09:17:41  <chapel>if you walk around like you know what you are doing and don't get a fuck, people will not mess with you
09:17:45  <chapel>not that they would normally
09:18:00  <SubStack>well that is true of pretty much anyplace
09:18:02  <chapel>Im sure you could get away with some crazy stuff if you played it off right
09:18:17  <SubStack>just run around like the doctor, pretending like you know what's going on
09:18:26  <chapel>haha
09:18:30  <chapel>that would be funny
09:20:26  <SubStack>shit this $2 bottle of wine I bought is really good
09:20:42  <SubStack>the rewards of reading the research surrouding wine tasting
09:20:49  <SubStack>and how prices are completely bullshit
09:24:48  <SubStack>and also how fucking cheap wine is in california
09:25:27  <SubStack>in alaska the cheapest bottle of 750mL wine I could buy was like $8
09:25:39  <SubStack>here it's $1.99
09:33:51  <SubStack>beer is the same though, strangely enough
09:34:54  <rowbit>SubStack, pkrumins: Encoders down: 50.57.226.209(free4)
09:36:04  <dominictarr>yeah, wtf is it with pbr. tecate is better.
09:36:35  <dominictarr>I liked rolling rock most though, best graphic design.
09:37:57  <SubStack>in fairbanks I would usually pick up a 6-pack of alaskan amber or alaskan ipa for $7
09:38:26  <SubStack>or the oatmeal stout when it was available
09:38:58  <SubStack>harder to find good dark beers in supermarkets down here
09:41:50  <SubStack>in nikiski, alaska where my parents live there is a microbrewery that sells 1 gallon growlers for $10-15 of the most excellent beer ever
09:43:40  <dominictarr>yes, also, have friends to do full grain home brewing.
09:43:57  <dominictarr>also, distilling.
09:44:21  <dominictarr>distilling at home is illegal in America, so you have to build your own.
09:45:45  <SubStack>pfft whatevwer
09:46:15  <SubStack>legality is only important if there is a chance of being caught
09:46:28  <SubStack>which there is not unless you have a full-scale commercial operation
09:46:43  <SubStack>but at that point the licensing isn't so hard to get
09:47:19  <SubStack>one of my roommates in alaska did ice distilling
09:47:36  <SubStack>easy as fuck, just take champaign yeast and apple juice
09:47:44  <SubStack>then set it out on the front steps to freeze
09:48:53  <SubStack>which at -20C was pretty quick
09:54:46  <SubStack>remembering how much of a pain the extreme cold was >_<
09:55:45  <SubStack>like if you leave a bike outside overnight the grease solidifies so the derailer doesn't work
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09:59:30  <dominictarr>wow.
09:59:49  <dominictarr>I find that degree of cold hard to imagine.
10:01:29  <SubStack>amusingly, the sale of alcohol is tightly regulated but minors can buy as much brewers yeast as they please
10:01:37  <SubStack>oh yeah extreme cold isn't so bad
10:01:43  <SubStack>it's just really fucking cold
10:06:38  <dominictarr>teenagers are way too lazy for that, mostly.
10:07:07  <SubStack>well in the US it's up to 21
10:07:17  <SubStack>my roommate in fairbanks was 20 at the time
10:13:43  <tanepiper>http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=82092497
10:13:48  <tanepiper>my portla 2 level
10:18:30  <dominictarr>oh, yeah. I forgot about that. in nz it's 18. although most kiwis are fairly experienced drinkers by that point.
10:19:26  <SubStack>I should hope so!
10:19:32  <SubStack>it's not much different in the states
10:19:59  <SubStack>young people are just more experienced at breaking the law and disregarding authority
10:20:30  <dominictarr>you need to do that, to get a low power distance.
10:20:51  <SubStack>pretty much!
10:20:59  <dominictarr>it's good to have silly rules just so they can be broken, for that purpose.
10:21:38  <SubStack>and it's not like the police even give a fuck about prosecuting those laws
10:21:50  <SubStack>since they were in exactly the same situation when they were younger
10:24:30  <dominictarr>yes, although the whole situation does have a certain sense of absurdity.
10:25:45  <dominictarr>mmm, my peer-to-peer gossip protocol is coming along...
10:25:53  <SubStack>training a nation of anarchist
10:25:58  <SubStack>can't complain
10:26:08  <dominictarr>peers now track if another node goes down
10:26:32  <dominictarr>there is still a lot of nationalism that needs to be squeezed out of that nation of anarchists.
10:27:05  <SubStack>it's not really a problem among the youths
10:27:43  <dominictarr>the ones smart enough to not enlist, at least.
10:27:43  <SubStack>just among the silly people who believe in "america" as some sort of platonic ideal
10:27:59  <SubStack>as opposed to just another place like any other
10:28:34  <SubStack>the thing that sucks is that enlisting is stupid bullshit wars actually makes economic sense for a lot of people
10:28:48  <dominictarr>totally.
10:29:01  <SubStack>*in stupid
10:29:02  <dominictarr>education, welfare.
10:29:21  <dominictarr>*probably* won't get killed
10:29:50  <SubStack>suicides outnumber the casualties from actual conflict
10:30:34  <dominictarr>yeah, and until recently, I read, that the army actually had a lower than average suicide rate.
10:31:06  <dominictarr>also, that is the army as a whole, vs, combat soldiers.
10:31:08  <SubStack>so it's win-win
10:31:19  <SubStack>except you have to do a bunch of bullshit army crap
10:31:37  <dominictarr>turns out that combat soldiers are actually a tiny minority within the army,
10:31:47  <dominictarr>which is mostly a logistical organization.
10:32:11  <SubStack>I don't even qualify for military service because I can't smell from a traumatic brain injury and I'm not fat enough
10:32:59  <SubStack>one of the qualifications is that recruits need to weigh 140 pounds
10:33:06  <SubStack>which I am about 10 pounds shy of
10:33:15  <dominictarr>what is that in metric?
10:33:29  <SubStack>~65 kg?
10:33:37  <dominictarr>ah,
10:34:03  <dominictarr>I'm around that too.
10:34:20  <dominictarr>I could probably get under that if necessary.
10:34:22  <SubStack>good the fatties can all go and do dumbshit army crap
10:34:34  <dominictarr>dehydration works wonders for that I understand.
10:35:08  <dominictarr>maybe they should raise the limit,
10:35:37  <dominictarr>might go some way to reducing the obesity problem. if only a small statistical difference.
10:35:52  <SubStack>I don't even understand why there are so many fat people
10:36:03  <SubStack>it's such a chore to get enough calories in the first place
10:36:07  <dominictarr>plus, it would make a funny comedy movie "fat army"
10:36:21  <dominictarr>damn, should have made that while we still had john candy.
10:36:50  <dominictarr>focus on fat, and not moving.
10:37:12  <dominictarr>also, I have heard that your mothers diet during pregnancy counts too.
10:37:55  <SubStack>fat people should just be prescribed amphetamines
10:39:58  <chapel>Im fat, for me it ultimately comes down to the foods I eat, the higher the processed carbs, the more I want to eat
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10:40:07  <SubStack>hooray!
10:40:07  <dominictarr>yeah, hop them up on drugs and send them off to fight in some hot sauna like country
10:40:19  <Nexxy>YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO CUUUUUUT ME OFF
10:40:21  <LOUDBOT>WHY DO ASIAN TRANSEXUALS LOOK SO GOOD?
10:40:28  <SubStack>chapel: I mostly see food as a chore I guess
10:40:40  <chapel>If I eat a largely protein and fat based diet, I am satiated with fewer calories
10:40:43  <Nexxy>LOUDBOT, OH WOW
10:40:44  <LOUDBOT>Nexxy: HEEEERRRRRRRRRP DEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRPPPP
10:40:51  <Nexxy>I'M IN LOVE
10:40:51  <LOUDBOT>TACTILE FEEDBACK IS SO LOUDDD MECHANICAL KEYYYYYSSSSS
10:40:55  <chapel>SubStack: it is a chore :)
10:40:56  <SubStack>I try to eat as calorie dense food as possible so I don't need to eat as many meals
10:41:00  <Nexxy>this bot has my number
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10:41:14  <Nexxy>>60 seconds and its already mentioned trannies and mechanical keys
10:41:30  <chapel>when you get to the point that you can eat 4000 calories in a meal, well that happens because of the food you eat, and it just gets worse and worse :(
10:41:43  <Nexxy>SubStack, you should eat many small meals
10:41:45  <dominictarr>oh apparently, if you put lots of sugar in food, people will eat (and buy) more.
10:41:47  <SubStack>Nexxy: see also http://twitter.com/#!/loudbot
10:41:51  <chapel>Nexxy: loudbot just replays previous CAPS stuff people have said
10:41:55  <dominictarr>that is the mc donalds formula
10:42:07  <chapel>dominictarr: it isn't just sugar, its fructose really
10:42:10  <Nexxy>chapel, wow lol
10:42:11  <chapel>anything high in fructose
10:42:16  <dominictarr>right,
10:42:30  <SubStack>I can barely maintain my weight as it is
10:42:32  <chapel>since fructose doesn't actually process the same as glucose or others
10:42:37  <SubStack>I've lost 5kg since college
10:42:52  <dominictarr>maybe you have a tapeworm?
10:42:57  <Nexxy>lose another 3 and you will blow away in the wind
10:43:11  <Nexxy>WAIT A MINUTE THESE AREN'T MY GLASSES
10:43:12  <LOUDBOT>VOODOO GRAPHICS CARDS ARE GETTING AN IN KERNEL DRIVER NOW?
10:43:13  <SubStack>I splurge and eat like 3000 calories in a sitting
10:43:17  <SubStack>but it doesn't even work
10:43:23  <chapel>there is some belief that there are some people that process fructose and similar differently, and don't process the excess calories as fat
10:43:42  <Nexxy>> leptin
10:43:44  <SubStack>my siblings are all the same
10:43:44  <chapel>SubStack: its not easy to gain weight when you are skinny
10:43:47  <SubStack>skinny as fuck
10:44:24  <chapel>but if your body likes to store fat, to hoard it, excess calories are usually processed as such
10:44:32  <chapel>though being skinny doesn't mean you're healthy
10:44:43  <SubStack>well I don't really eat sugar because I don't like the taste of it
10:44:48  <SubStack>too sugary
10:44:52  <chapel>you can have the same internal ailments as a 500lb fatty and be skinny as a rail
10:45:02  <chapel>SubStack: yeah, not really saying you, just in general
10:45:14  <chapel>weight isn't the reason people are sick
10:45:16  <Nexxy>THERE'S BLOOD IN THE WATER
10:45:17  <LOUDBOT>ORBITAL DONG VELOCITY CHECK. DONG ATTITUDE CONFIRMED.
10:45:19  <chapel>it is just a symptom
10:45:26  <Nexxy>lmfao
10:45:38  <dominictarr>I heard about these guys who where eating 20,000 calories a day and still starving to death.
10:45:47  <Nexxy>leptin receptors
10:45:51  <Nexxy>mutating
10:45:55  <Nexxy>in 3/4 of the population
10:45:57  <dominictarr>they where dragging sleds across antartica
10:45:59  <chapel>like doctors say: "You are obese which means you have a higher chance of getting heard disease or diabetes"
10:46:25  <chapel>But the thing is, obesity is a symptom, not a cause
10:47:07  <chapel>anyways, its all interesting stuff
10:47:27  <chapel>I hope there is more research into the differences between those that gain fat easily vs those that don't
10:47:37  <SubStack>my mom has diabetes
10:47:44  <SubStack>and my dad gets hypoglycemia
10:47:46  <Nexxy>DIABETUS
10:47:47  <LOUDBOT> * OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE USE OR PERFORMANCE OF THIS SOFTWARE.
10:47:54  <Nexxy>LIBERTY MEDICAL
10:47:55  <LOUDBOT>ASTRONAUTS ON EARTH PEACE, GOODWILL TOWARD MEN. AND WHATEVER YOU WANT CUTE INDIE BOYS AFTER YOUR SWEET BIPPY IT IS LONG
10:48:01  <SubStack>I've blacked out a few times from low blood sugar
10:48:14  <Nexxy>that's why you should eat moer often
10:48:18  <chapel>Id say in our civilization, not gaining fat is an evolutionary benefit, so more chance of that mutation progressing
10:48:19  <SubStack>fuck all, nutrition is hard
10:48:31  <chapel>LOUDBOT: be nexxy
10:48:32  <LOUDBOT><nexxy> WAIT A MINUTE THESE AREN'T MY GLASSES
10:48:37  <Nexxy>EL OH EL
10:48:37  <LOUDBOT>MILLIONS OF GALLONS OF WATER ARE LEAKING OUT OF OUR COUNTRY EVERY SECOND
10:49:03  <Nexxy>I CERTAINLY FEEL MORE LIKE I DO NOW THAN I DID BEFORE
10:49:03  <LOUDBOT>TAKE NOTE OF THE UTILIZATION BARS =\
10:49:08  <chapel>LOUDBOT: be nexxy
10:49:08  <LOUDBOT><nexxy> YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO CUUUUUUT ME OFF
10:49:12  <chapel>LOUDBOT: be nexxy
10:49:12  <LOUDBOT><nexxy> YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO CUUUUUUT ME OFF
10:49:14  <chapel>LOUDBOT: be nexxy
10:49:15  <LOUDBOT><nexxy> YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO CUUUUUUT ME OFF
10:49:16  <chapel>bah
10:49:20  <chapel>something new!!!
10:49:24  <Nexxy>chapel, ONE OF ME IS ENOUGH
10:49:36  <chapel>LOUDBOT: search nexxy
10:49:37  <LOUDBOT>chapel: <Nexxy:#stackvm> I CERTAINLY FEEL MORE LIKE I DO NOW THAN I DID BEFORE
10:49:52  <chapel>LOUDBOT: search substack
10:49:53  <LOUDBOT>chapel: <SubStack:##turtles> JUST DON'T GO PAST EIGHTY CHARACTERS
10:50:03  <chapel>LOUDBOT: search isaacs
10:50:04  <LOUDBOT>chapel: <isaacs:#stackvm> SIR THIS BUSINESS DOES NOT CONCERN YOU, PLEASE RETURN TO THE LAVATORY.
10:50:06  <Nexxy>I AGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT
10:50:07  <LOUDBOT>EVER SINCE THE I HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO GIVE ANYONE THE FINGER WITH MY LEFT HAND. I DO A WICKED SHOCKER THOUGH...
10:50:13  <Nexxy>WOW.
10:50:25  <Nexxy>I JUST... OK
10:50:26  <chapel>LOUDBOT: who said
10:50:27  <LOUDBOT>chapel: IT'S AN IPAD GET THE FUCK IN THE CAR
10:50:39  <chapel>bah whats that command
10:50:48  <SubStack>THE LOUDBOT IS PROFANE YOU SHOULD EXPECT AS MUCH
10:50:48  <LOUDBOT>HOW DOES THE LINUX KERNEL RUN IN A MICROWAVE
10:50:50  <chapel>LOUDBOT: search shcoker
10:50:51  <LOUDBOT>chapel: I AM THE TESTER. I WILL TELL YOU WHAT IS BUG
10:51:02  <chapel>bleh bed
10:51:09  <Nexxy>chapel, sleep is for the dead
10:51:21  <chapel>Im pretty much dead :P
10:51:22  <SubStack>also the tired
10:51:25  <SubStack>the weary
10:51:27  <chapel>just wasting time not sleeping atm
10:51:36  <Nexxy>I have slept so little since the baby was born
10:51:36  <dominictarr>LOUDBOT, whosaid
10:51:37  <LOUDBOT>dominictarr: marc in #megashark on
10:51:45  <chapel>Nexxy: well that is to be expected
10:51:48  <dominictarr>chapel, ^
10:51:55  <chapel>thanks dominictarr
10:52:07  <Nexxy>WHERE'S STONE PHILIPS
10:52:08  <LOUDBOT>ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED: PUBLIC OUTRAGE
10:52:11  <SubStack>GIVE US YOUR POOR, YOUR TIRED, YOUR HUDDLED MASSES LONGING TO BE LOUD
10:52:11  <LOUDBOT>BEHOLD MY POWER
10:52:44  <SubStack>Nexxy: yeah I'm well aware how younglings work
10:52:55  <Nexxy>not this one!
10:52:55  <SubStack>I was 12 when my first sibling was born
10:53:13  <Nexxy>he sleeps so easily
10:53:13  <SubStack>and 15 when the last one was born
10:53:24  <Nexxy>I just would rather watch him sleep than sleep myself
10:53:44  <SubStack>oh I guess I was just 11 actually
10:53:51  <SubStack>right around when I started programming
10:54:15  <SubStack>I want nothing to do with offspring.
10:54:19  <Nexxy>I started programming @ 11 if you consider writing exploits in mIRC programming
10:54:30  <SubStack>I do indeed!
10:54:37  <dominictarr>whats a word that is like "know" but doesn't imply that you are necessarily correct
10:54:49  <Nexxy>presume
10:55:06  <Nexxy>infer
10:55:15  <Nexxy>extrapolate
10:55:21  <dominictarr>judge
10:55:31  <Nexxy>JUDGE DREDD!?
10:55:53  <SubStack>I like how other people are interested in raising offspring.
10:55:54  <Nexxy>STARRING SYLVESTER STALLONE?!
10:55:56  <LOUDBOT>OBJECT DOESN'T SUPPORT THAT PROPERTY
10:56:08  <Nexxy>SubStack, I swore I would never
10:56:15  <Nexxy>then I turned 26
10:56:18  <Nexxy>and was like
10:56:19  <Nexxy>I MUST.
10:56:20  <LOUDBOT>REAL 3D BITHES
10:56:23  <SubStack>what
10:56:23  <Nexxy>EXACTLY
10:56:24  <LOUDBOT>HAVE YOU HAD A RESTAURANT MEAL THAT WAS DISSATISFYING?
10:56:43  <Nexxy>THE BIOLOGICAL CLOCK IS REAL
10:56:43  <SubStack>I am 24 and no inklings
10:56:43  <LOUDBOT>BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE!
10:56:53  <Nexxy>^
10:56:58  <Nexxy>IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN
10:56:58  <LOUDBOT>EAT THE RICH -- THE POOR ARE TOUGH AND STRINGY.
10:57:08  <Nexxy>THAT TOO
10:57:08  <LOUDBOT>I NEED MY METRICS TO GO TO 11 AS WELL
10:57:18  <Nexxy>THIS IS LOUDBOT
10:57:18  <LOUDBOT>HAS CANCER INFECTED THE CHURCH WITH AIDS?
10:57:22  <Nexxy>HOPEFULLY
10:57:22  <LOUDBOT>GIVE ME COMPANY FOR I HAVE TO STUDY MUNDANE HIGH SCHOOL MATHEMATICS.
10:57:51  <dominictarr>if you have siblings, you can leave it up to them,
10:58:06  <dominictarr>their children are like your grandchildren, genetically.
10:58:09  <SubStack>yeah fuck all, my family has plenty of spawnlings
10:58:27  <SubStack>goddamnit so many fucking children in my family
10:58:31  <Nexxy>I knew you were a mormon
10:58:33  <dominictarr>SUBSTACKS GONNA BUILD A ROBOT BABY
10:58:33  <LOUDBOT>BILBO! BILBO BAGGINS, BRAVEST LITTLE HOBBIT OF THEM ALL!
10:58:42  <Nexxy>rofl
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10:59:02  <SubStack>I'm the 1st of 4 and then my aunts and uncles have so many fucking kids
10:59:04  <SubStack>it's sickening
10:59:15  <Nexxy>SICKENING?! OR ADORABLE... YOU DECIDE.
10:59:31  <SubStack>Nexxy: actually only one of my aunts/uncles is mormon
10:59:39  <Nexxy>I knew it
10:59:58  <Nexxy>are they like
11:00:04  <Nexxy>magical underwear mormons?
11:00:11  <Nexxy>or just... "we like to fuck" mormons
11:00:11  <SubStack>it's like nobody knows how contraception works or something
11:00:53  <Nexxy>apparently I'm not one to talk
11:00:59  <SubStack>and that the 98% is a conditional probability that you need to multiply out by the number of encounters
11:01:21  <SubStack>and supplement with other means
11:01:28  <SubStack>I mean come on this is basic probability here
11:02:37  <Nexxy>i'm pretty sure the actual % is much lower
11:02:45  <Nexxy>since lots of people don't even know how to put a condom on properly
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11:11:36  <Nexxy>omg duncanbeevers is here
11:11:42  <Nexxy>that guy is a celebrity
11:12:29  <Nexxy>lol
11:12:30  <Nexxy>elliottcable,
11:13:01  <Nexxy>ELLIOTTCABLE HAVE YOU SEEN MY ELLIOTT RECENTLY!?
11:13:02  <LOUDBOT>OMG UR ALWAYS ON UR FUCKING COMPUTER
11:13:27  <Nexxy>I DON'T APPRECIATE YOUR ATTITUDE
11:13:27  <LOUDBOT>ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED: THIN, CLINGY PLASTIC WRAP
11:13:34  <Nexxy>THAT'S NOT EVEN AN ACHIEVEMENT
11:13:35  <LOUDBOT>Y U NO ANSWER PHONE WHEN I PRESS ANSWER PHONE
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12:54:36  <dominictarr>Nexxy, after what I have learnt today, my plan is to convert to mormon post-humously.
12:54:53  <Nexxy>lolol
12:57:51  <SubStack>put it in your will
12:58:07  <Nexxy>going to pull a Mitt Romney
12:58:33  <Nexxy>dead athiest father? Not if Mitt has anything to say about it.
12:58:39  <SubStack>anyways how do I get confused for a morman
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12:58:53  <Nexxy>CUZ YOU'RE MORE MAN THAN ME
12:58:54  <LOUDBOT>LET'S ALL CREATE LONG-TERM VALUE
12:58:59  <SubStack>haha
12:59:20  <SubStack>I'm pretty hostile to all religions
12:59:27  <Nexxy>no wonder I like you so much
12:59:32  <SubStack>how is that not getting across
12:59:35  <Nexxy>haha
12:59:42  <SubStack>I need to be more outspoken and less subtle
12:59:46  <Nexxy>yes
12:59:52  <Nexxy>I wear a pentagram
12:59:59  <Nexxy>just so I can attract the scorn of idiotic christians
13:00:16  <Nexxy>it's an easy way to cut through the bullshit and avoid people I don't want to associate with anyawy
13:00:52  <SubStack>but I dislike that symbology because it's just the opposite instead of attacking the root of the problem which is magical thinking
13:01:07  <Nexxy>well I misspoke, really
13:01:12  <Nexxy>my purpose is 2 fold
13:01:41  <SubStack>also I have a beard!
13:01:47  <SubStack>protip: mormons don't have beards
13:01:48  <SubStack>for some reason
13:01:53  <Nexxy>the pentagram originally signified the elements
13:02:36  <Nexxy>and the circle around it, will and balance
13:03:11  <SubStack>hahaha http://www.mormoncurtain.com/topic_facialhair.html
13:04:09  <Nexxy>HEY GUYS CHECK OUT MY NEW MORMON CURTAIN
13:04:11  <LOUDBOT>LHGLUGHGULHGLUHGLUHGLUHG I SAID
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13:04:37  <Nexxy>this site calls it
13:04:41  <Nexxy>> it is about obedience
13:05:08  <Nexxy>control a person in enough small little ways and they will do anything in the name of their faith!
13:05:53  <Nexxy>I CAN DO ANYTHING I WANT THROUGH THE HOLE IN THE SHEET
13:05:54  <LOUDBOT>GO BUSINESS GO
13:06:45  <SubStack>dunno about that, but religions are all about kooky shit
13:06:54  <Nexxy>I do!
13:07:02  <Nexxy>it's all about control
13:07:27  <Nexxy>http://www.comedycentral.com/video-clips/x02985/upright-citizens-brigade-hole-in-the-sheet
13:07:52  <Nexxy>I ASKED GOD FOR GUIDANCE AND HE REMINDED ME I CAN DO WHATEVER I WANT AS LONG AS IT'S THROUGH THE HOLE IN THE SHEET
13:07:52  <LOUDBOT>THEN I WAKE UP NAKED, IN A FIELD, NEXT TO A COW.
13:07:54  <SubStack>jsconf.eu proposal: https://gist.github.com/024fed4e3b4893fbc74d
13:08:11  <Nexxy>you too huh
13:08:31  <SubStack>INFINITELY MANY GODS WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A WORD WITH YOU
13:08:32  <LOUDBOT>APPARENTLY YOU ARE NOT ALL KNOWING
13:08:43  <SubStack>haha apropos as usual
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13:17:55  <pkrumins>i dont want loudbot in this channel
13:19:08  * pkruminsbooted LOUDBOT (LOUDBOT)
13:19:42  <pkrumins>bullshit nonsense bot
13:23:09  <Nexxy>well I guess my fun here is over
13:23:17  <Nexxy>pkrumins, party pooper </3
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14:00:41  <Nexxy>WHERE IS LOUDBOT?!
14:01:12  * Nexxyfoot stomp
14:01:44  <Nexxy>try /invite loudbot #stackvm
14:01:56  <Nexxy>some good bots respond to invites
14:02:09  <pkrumins>i tried, it wont come back
14:02:16  <Nexxy>.____________.
14:02:46  <Nexxy>pkrumins, I'd like a post mortem blog post
14:02:51  <Nexxy>WRITTEN IN ALL CAPS
14:02:54  <rowbit>SubStack, pkrumins: Encoders down: 173.203.67.76(free3)
14:03:16  <Nexxy>BLAM
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17:48:34  <pkrumins>5 years of blogging http://www.catonmat.net/blog/five-years-of-blogging/
17:50:12  <maxogden>happy blogday!
17:50:58  <pkrumins>thank you!
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19:34:32  <Nexxy>STILL NO LOUDBOT
19:34:41  <Nexxy>WHAT KIND OF SHAM ARE YOU RUNNING HERE, PKRUMINS
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20:46:10  <mikeal>SubStack, maxogden: check out the new video intro :) http://2012.nodeconf.com/theatre/rick_waldron.html
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21:38:15  <SubStack>mikeal: very excellent
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