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00:20:04  <ArxPoetica>what's up mdedetrich
00:20:10  <ArxPoetica>been a while
00:20:21  <mdedetrich>not much, you?
00:20:40  <ArxPoetica>mmm… getting close to launching an ss app
00:20:46  <ArxPoetica>another 4 weeks
00:23:28  <mdedetrich>nice work, tbh I stopped using SS because I have a new job now that I am coding in rails with
00:24:06  <ArxPoetica>oh cool
00:38:55  <mdedetrich>SS is nice and novel, the biggest issues with SS is
00:39:11  <mdedetrich>1. Support for a lot of crud that should be automated
00:39:28  <mdedetrich>2. Javascript/coffeescript completely and utterly blows when it comes to production things like error handling and whatnot
00:50:19  <mdedetrich>ArxPoetica: I just think SS is ahead of its time now
00:57:03  <ArxPoetica>yeah, it needs some help, for sure
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15:54:18  <ArxPoetica>owenb_ you around?
16:11:09  <owenb_>hey Arx, in and out, but yes
16:34:56  <ArxPoetica>oh — it's okay
16:35:11  <ArxPoetica>I was going to ask you about that ticket, but I realize you added a bunch to it
16:35:31  <ArxPoetica>So keeping the conversation over there. Bottom line though, I'm committed to helping out.
16:54:02  <owenb_>thanks :)
16:55:04  <owenb_>right now having done SS for two years solid I need some time to play with other technologies and work on one of my own projects. i'm pretty sure what i learn will be fed back into SocketStream in some form or another
16:55:20  <owenb_>but the best thing I can do right now is find ways to open things up so more people can contribute real code
16:57:32  <ArxPoetica>Yeah, I'm in:
16:57:38  <ArxPoetica>americanyak is my username
16:57:55  <ArxPoetica>If you add me, I'll focus on documentation for starters
16:58:34  <ArxPoetica>btw — I had the bright idea of asking NodeJitsu if they'll sponsor our site — if we advertise them as a sponsor, we might get free hosting
16:58:41  <ArxPoetica>I'm drafting an email as we speak :P
16:58:47  <ArxPoetica>let me know if you think this is a bad idea
16:59:34  <ArxPoetica>Bottom line though, I think we need to get that SocketStream website up to date, including documentation.
16:59:44  <ArxPoetica>So that's where I'd like to focus.
17:02:55  <owenb_>well Nuno may be interested. he lives in London now - we met up last week
17:03:04  <owenb_>there is need for better docs, that's for sure
17:03:19  <owenb_>but until the design of the 0.4 is finished there is little point as everything will change
17:03:28  <owenb_>and it's the design and coding that takes time
17:03:33  <ArxPoetica>Nuno?
17:03:44  <owenb_>Nodejitsu partner. dscape
17:03:50  <ArxPoetica>gotcha
17:04:27  <owenb_>the design of 0.4 is heading in the right direction - it's 1000 times better than 0.3. but it needs more work still
17:04:49  <ArxPoetica>Sure. It's a little chicken or egg. I certainly understand your hesitancy.
17:05:05  <owenb_>and i know if i were to 'finish it' it would require 2 months or so of my time and right now i'm contracting full time and can't easily spare it
17:05:29  <owenb_>plus, tbh, even if i could - this is not the answer
17:05:30  <ArxPoetica>My main thought is things don't happen that way — you *have* to open it up somehow and market solutions. So my thought is lets *at least* market how to contribute.
17:05:42  <owenb_>agreed
17:05:46  <ArxPoetica>cool
17:05:51  <owenb_>focussing on how to contribute is the best way forward
17:05:52  <ArxPoetica>so that's what I can spearhead.
17:06:00  <ArxPoetica>or help, I mean
17:06:06  <owenb_>and i'm totally happy to give commit rights and trust to those who want to take it forward
17:06:23  <ArxPoetica>ok yeah — if you throw me in, i'll follow your lead
17:06:30  <ArxPoetica>americanyak
17:06:51  <ArxPoetica>I'll probably fork a branch anyway
17:07:02  <ArxPoetica>so I don't bumble around sacred ground.
17:07:08  <ArxPoetica>and just do pull requests, etc.
17:08:19  <ArxPoetica>where do you currently host the website?
17:09:53  <owenb_>just added you to the 0.4 repo
17:10:27  <owenb_>and davisford too, as he's been involved in SS for ages now and is very supportive
17:10:31  <owenb_>paulbjensen i know personally so I've added him too
17:11:23  <owenb_>just done the same for Prism too
17:11:29  <owenb_>this is basically the heard of SocketStream 0.4
17:11:34  <owenb_>the rest is just cruft over it
17:11:39  <owenb_>*heart
17:12:27  <owenb_>this reminds me of Felix's experiment : http://felixge.de/2013/03/11/the-pull-request-hack.html
17:13:17  <ArxPoetica>herd :P
17:13:56  <ArxPoetica>nice — (reading)
17:15:37  <ArxPoetica>ah — that's awesome
17:15:42  <ArxPoetica>DIG IT
17:15:57  <ArxPoetica>Besides — we forget the power of Git — it lets you control things
17:16:24  <ArxPoetica>Yeah, to be honest, I have the same fears.
17:16:39  <ArxPoetica>But it's true — if I know I'm touching actual code, I'll be much more careful
17:17:04  <ArxPoetica>Where, when I'm making a pull request, I don't think about it as much — I can be sloppy and think the person pulling can fix it how he/she likes.
17:18:06  <owenb_>well this is either going to be the best or worse thing that's ever happened to SS. But my gut tells me it will be the best thing. I can always go in and fix stuff if needed. Nothing is ever that bad. Let the experiment begin :)
17:18:46  <ArxPoetica>ha ha
17:18:59  <ArxPoetica>The Felix Principle
17:19:07  <ArxPoetica>I think it's a good move.
17:19:50  <ArxPoetica>I honestly think there are a lot of people that will pile on w/ awesome help.
17:20:19  <ArxPoetica>I think where your work load is going to shift is just w/ paying attention to how things fit together.
17:26:40  <owenb_>i would enjoy that a lot :)
17:26:46  <owenb_>just posted an update on the issue page
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17:33:23  <ArxPoetica>I owe it to you to run it locally now, so I'll go figure that out. :D
17:40:22  <owenb_>the example_app should work fine
17:40:43  <owenb_>the express example script is out of date but davisford knows about that and can fix it
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