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15:39:42  <ArxPoetica>hey vtali — did you ever get your answer
15:44:10  <owenb>hey guys. shout if you need my help. i'm working my way though all the github issues at the moment
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16:33:14  <vtali>no I didn't. :)
16:33:16  <vtali>sorry just saw this
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18:09:16  <owenb>vtali, you're asking a question which has no easy answer at the moment as it's two layers of abstraction on each other
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19:07:51  <vtali>true... i was thinking the same. I'm marrying myself to one of them if I go that route. I was just intrigued by the idea of reactive emberjs stack with socketstream
19:08:40  <vtali>so is socket stream able to then run the models built with ember in its middleware (server) side code?
19:19:48  <owenb>i'm pretty sure you can only use ember data models on the client - not the server
19:21:04  <ArxPoetica>yes but (chiming in), the idea of passing models back and forth without really reconstructing the architecture is intriguing.
19:21:36  <ArxPoetica>but to answer your original question, vtali, socketstream has no opinion about models.
19:21:51  <ArxPoetica>So really the question your asking isn't about SocketStream, but it's about Mongoose vs. Ember.
19:21:56  <owenb>yes
19:22:07  <owenb>though we need to make models a lot easier in 0.4
19:22:09  <owenb>i'm very aware of that
19:22:23  <owenb>reactive templating is something I really want for my own projects
19:22:47  <owenb>but nothing will be forced down anyones throats
19:22:54  <ArxPoetica>how was your trip btw, Owenb?
19:23:51  <owenb>great thanks. switched off from work completely and just had time to think about a things. very relaxing and refreshing :)
19:24:20  <ArxPoetica>nice to do that
19:25:02  <owenb>indeed
19:25:28  <owenb>how are you doing?
19:25:35  <ArxPoetica>good
19:25:39  <ArxPoetica>Hey, totally anecdotal, but I've made acquaintances w/ someone who tried to scale an app in Derby.
19:25:47  <ArxPoetica>He got posted on Reddit, and it broke his app...
19:26:23  <ArxPoetica>so he fixed it
19:26:47  <ArxPoetica>but I thought the lessons he learned valuable — so we're going to get together and I'll pick his brain.
19:33:01  <ArxPoetica>http://lifehacker.com/5976476/habitrpg-turns-better-behavior-into-a-game-of-survival
19:33:16  <ArxPoetica>It went viral on reddit after being posted here.
20:02:17  <owenb>ah great. thanks for the link. been a bit out of the loop in the last few weeks, slowly catching up
20:02:18  <vtali>i wonder at what user count it finally broke
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21:18:04  <ArxPoetica>owenb you still there?
21:18:21  <ArxPoetica>I'm curious about RPC, how it works when, for example, you pass up actual objects.
21:18:41  <ArxPoetica>Is it really passing an obj, or is it doing something like json.parse(objString) ???
21:18:47  <ArxPoetica>to get the obj?
21:19:14  <ArxPoetica>I mean, it works great to pass objects, but I wondered if there was a bit of magic behind the scenes.
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21:53:57  <owenb>just JSON.parse indeed. no other way to squeeze an object down the websocket :)
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