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17:25:15  <soldair>node
17:25:38  <chrisdickinson>^
17:26:01  <soldair>woo! thanks. didn't leave me hanging
17:26:11  <chrisdickinson>haha, no prob.
17:26:37  <cjm>haha
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17:34:56  <soldair>redepolying the internets is tough good thing mikeals on it
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17:35:18  <cjm>starting very soon
17:35:52  <tassmjau>yay!
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17:40:02  <cjm>sorry for the delay
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17:41:09  <dshaw_>3.5
17:41:12  <dshaw_>3.4
17:41:14  <dshaw_>3.3
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17:41:16  <cjm>lol
17:41:20  <dshaw_>2.5
17:41:23  <dshaw_>1
17:41:39  <cjm>live
17:41:49  <dshaw_>http://nodeup.com/
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17:57:04  <jedireza1>how do you listen live?
17:57:21  <jedireza1>where is the linkxor?
17:57:23  <abemassry>http://mixlr.com/nodeup/chat
17:57:32  <jedireza1>thx
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18:03:06  <bear>mikeal is trying to avoid the perils of monkey-patch based changes to modules
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18:11:31  <jedireza1>any links for queue?
18:13:03  <dshaw_>q
18:13:32  <dshaw_>http://npmsearch.com/?q=q
18:13:40  <bear>https://github.com/kriskowal/q/
18:13:50  <jedireza1>thx
18:14:53  <thanpolas>beware of promises performance hit https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aq8iSVdp87MFdFhnZGFUTF9ST195TDVGTERXcHBmMUE#gid=7
18:15:02  <thanpolas>Q performs rather poorly atm
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18:21:17  <owen1>what's the topic?
18:22:00  <Domenic_>q gets faster if you turn off long stack traces
18:22:06  <Domenic_>q.stackJumpLimit = 0;
18:22:20  <bear>substack embodies the *nix pattern tremendously
18:22:48  <thanpolas>Domenic_: what's the default value?
18:23:30  <Domenic_>thanpolas: 1
18:23:51  <Domenic_>http://documentup.com/kriskowal/q/#tutorial/long-stack-traces
18:23:58  <Domenic_>s/stackJumpLimit/longStackJumpLimit
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18:30:58  <owen1>what the community needs is a guide for building apps without frameworks. kind of like npm www that issac is building, but something more friendly and organized.
18:31:39  <owen1>the further you are from the node core devs, the more likely you are to use express and even coffeescript for everything.
18:32:26  <weisjohn>nearforms website is so chill
18:32:44  <dshaw_>http://www.nearform.com/
18:33:43  <dshaw_>https://twitter.com/Cianomaidin
18:34:05  <owen1>they are behind peerconf!
18:35:17  <dshaw_>Hour 2: Security
18:35:19  <bear>finally \o/
18:37:05  <cjm>:)
18:41:18  <bear>did you guys introduce adam?
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18:43:50  <skw>did they talk about node fibers earlier?
18:45:19  <dshaw_>bear: at the top of the show
18:45:34  <dshaw_>(an hour ago)
18:45:37  <bear>ah - I missed the first 30 seconds
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18:47:13  <weisjohn>true true
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18:51:49  <bear>unrunnable code is the most secure code
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18:53:13  <bear>mozilla's application security team uses that style - they can veto any app deploy by filing a security bug
18:54:06  <draco2003_web>along the lines of security policy page, how about a supported versions page? If a security issues comes out, what versions would be updated/patched, etc..?
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18:58:47  <dshaw_>https://groups.google.com/group/nodesecurity-announce
18:58:59  <dshaw_>draco2003_web: great idea
19:00:21  <weisjohn>i was just thinking, like, npm warn
19:00:42  <bear>something like "npm CVE" ?
19:03:01  <dshaw_>https://groups.google.com/group/nodesecurity-announce
19:03:13  <dshaw_>oops
19:03:13  <dshaw_>https://groups.google.com/group/nodesecurity-auditors
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19:04:08  <bear>most serious ops teams have trusted internal package repositories: rpm, python, node …
19:04:49  <chrisdickinson>yeah, that's the biggest problem i've had with switching to browserify at work
19:04:54  <chrisdickinson>getting a private npm setup :|
19:05:28  <bear>npm replication is gnarly - would love to find an easier way to do that and keep it up to date
19:07:16  <Domenic_>PRIIIIVAAATTTEEE NNNNN PPPP MMMMM
19:07:37  <bear>http://nodesecurity.io
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19:13:09  <qmx>jsconfbr
19:14:31  <dshaw_>https://gist.github.com/socketstream/5461356
19:16:37  <owen1>yeha! leveldb
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19:18:39  <dshaw_>https://andbang.com/
19:19:32  <owen1>also level-sublevel, multilevel, multilevel-http
19:19:46  <owen1>nice features on top of levelup
19:20:12  <bear>another great show
19:22:21  <dshaw_>Thanks bear.
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