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00:00:21  <jesusabdullah>sup cjm
00:00:30  <cjm>yo
00:00:50  <jesusabdullah>cjm: so if I'm at the mixlr page it should Just Work right?
00:00:56  <cjm>yeah
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00:01:13  <jesusabdullah>excellent
00:01:52  <dshaw_>mixlr.com/nodeup
00:02:28  <dscape>hello nodeup
00:02:34  <jesusabdullah>GET ON TEH AIR BROS
00:02:48  <dscape>sorry brah
00:03:08  <cjm>:)
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00:04:20  <hugorodrigues>topics for today?
00:04:26  <niggler>jesus christ what's with the caps?
00:04:28  <jesusabdullah>npm, npm and npm
00:04:39  <jesusabdullah>NIGGLER IM JUST TOTALLY PUMPED RITE NAOW
00:04:45  <hugorodrigues>bring it on!
00:04:58  <niggler>your caps belie your nonchalance
00:05:08  <No9>No dead leprechauns? I'm out
00:05:11  <jesusabdullah>YOUR MOM IS A NONCHALICE
00:05:32  <niggler>lol
00:05:44  <jesusabdullah>No9: npm stands for no pulse leprechauns so you good
00:05:58  <cjm>so close to going live
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00:06:13  <niggler>wake me up when it starts
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00:06:19  <No9>jesusabdullah phew that was close
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00:07:05  <mscdex>aw, mixlr doesn't like users who have "click to play" enabled for plugins
00:07:17  <jesusabdullah>figures
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00:07:31  <jesusabdullah>anybody whose startup's name ends in 'lr'...well
00:07:32  <jesusabdullah>u noe
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00:08:26  <cjm>LIVE
00:08:37  <hugorodrigues>yeah!
00:08:39  <jesusabdullah>lyve
00:08:50  <jesusabdullah>YEAH JSON SMITH
00:08:58  <niggler>boo buffering
00:08:58  <jesusabdullah>bizluh
00:09:24  <jesusabdullah>CHRISTMAS SWEATER
00:09:29  <jesusabdullah>I loved Christmas Sweater
00:09:49  <jesusabdullah>yes he did, that was pretty ballin'
00:10:02  <jesusabdullah>dscape: give props to christmas sweater! :D
00:10:29  <jesusabdullah>woooo
00:10:34  <niggler>i thought it was dshaw_
00:10:45  <jesusabdullah>they're both on there silly goose
00:11:16  <jesusabdullah>ahahaha
00:11:31  <jesusabdullah>UPGRADE
00:12:11  <darach>howayah
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00:12:37  <joshgillies>on the internet
00:12:55  <niggler>darach: eep.js had so much promise, then your code made me cry
00:13:01  <darach>heh
00:13:29  <darach>still figuring my way around js
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00:14:12  <darach>niggler: feel free to fork it
00:15:11  <niggler>darach: i actually am working on a GSL port to js
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00:15:45  <chilts>mixlr needs Flash :(
00:15:56  <darach>niggler: nice
00:16:02  <chilts>I don't install flash ... will listen when the MP3 comes up :)
00:16:32  <mscdex>mixlr needs node.js!
00:16:52  <niggler>what does mixlr use?
00:16:57  <mscdex>flash
00:17:07  <mscdex>i don't know for backend
00:17:33  <jesusabdullah>my money's on coldphusion
00:17:43  <mscdex>asp classic
00:17:51  <cjm>chilts mixlr works on mobile
00:19:14  <niggler>there needs to be a longer version of NKO
00:19:16  <niggler>like a month long
00:19:39  <mscdex>make it the whole year
00:19:58  <niggler>72 hours is too short to build something big
00:24:24  <niggler>google spreadsheets is XML?
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00:29:51  <dshaw_>https://www.irisnpm.com/
00:31:13  <ccowan>I guess I don't understand why people think CouchDB is so horrible? I've been using it for a while and it's been wonderful.
00:32:56  <mbalho>given a level of popularity a certain vocal minority will think anything is horrible
00:34:08  <ccowan>maybe because they don't have a ton of money to setup a reality distortion field like other NoSQL databases.
00:34:27  <mbalho>exactly
00:37:36  <niggler>yay http://www.oracle.com/us/products/database/nosql/overview/index.html
00:39:12  <darach>nigger: Isn't ACID and 'configurable consistency and durability' two bullets that look weird together?
00:39:36  <darach>nigglllller
00:39:49  <darach>Apologies for the typo :/
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00:40:21  <niggler>lol darach
00:40:36  <niggler>lol on the gaffe and lol on your observation
00:40:39  <darach>your handle isn't 'typesafe'
00:40:56  <niggler>neither is javascript :P
00:41:17  <darach>So i've noticed!
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00:41:58  <darach>Most difficult thing for a js noob who likes node (like me) is lack of a style guide and which bits to use / avoid
00:42:43  <niggler>js tries to facilitate many styles
00:43:22  <darach>yup - thats the problem! :)
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00:54:52  <jesusabdullah>dscape is 100% correct
00:54:59  <jesusabdullah>tbhirlimo
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01:05:36  <jesusabdullah>apps: checking in deps is totally cool
01:05:47  <jesusabdullah>modules: checking in deps makes sense if you're vendoring
01:06:15  <jesusabdullah>PROTIP: lock down versions EXACTLY
01:07:08  <ack006>shrinkwrap?
01:07:19  * chiltspart
01:08:06  <jesusabdullah>I mean
01:08:12  <mbalho>darach: https://github.com/felixge/node-style-guide
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01:08:22  <mbalho>darach: also read all the node core docs and code like that
01:08:23  <jesusabdullah>personally I can't be bothered to use shrinkwrap but THAT'S JUST ME
01:08:56  <darach>mbalho: thanks, i'll check thoose out
01:10:07  <jesusabdullah>remember: timtowtdi
01:10:25  <jesusabdullah>"how much gas" *frrrt*
01:10:57  <ack006>i like the javascriptlint / jsstyle combo 'make check' that dave pacheco uses in packages. are these used by joyent internally
01:11:07  <ack006>?
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01:21:35  <No9>namespaces that's what we need :P
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01:26:14  <mscdex>big ugly Java-like namespaces
01:26:18  <mscdex>;-)
01:26:54  <darach>Ugly, but works (mostly)
01:27:06  <dscape>lol
01:27:08  <dscape>mostly
01:27:08  <darach>Not fugly like C++ namespaces :)
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01:28:34  <darach>As a n00b trying to package stuff intelligently in node / js just seems like magic to me.
01:29:31  <darach>... and underscore was taken!
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01:31:44  <No9>www.nearform.com
01:32:30  <No9>Waterford
01:33:11  <darach>No, Watford :)
01:35:02  <ack006>mscdex: ahh java. not just namespaces, names!
01:35:04  <ack006> i trump your puny FactoryBean with my AbstractSingletonProxyFactoryBean
01:36:55  <rvagg>dscape: npm publish --tag dev; npm install package@dev; ftw!
01:38:05  <ramitos>dscape npm install typo is recognized by npm and installs
01:38:15  <ramitos>isntall *
01:39:13  <mscdex>npm needs a secret --xyzzy option
01:43:52  <dshaw_>rvagg: crazy
01:44:14  <dscape>rvagg: but does not make it the most recent package?
01:45:03  <rvagg>--tag is so awesome, by default your tag is "latest" and it gets the latest version on that tag
01:45:14  <rvagg>if you install with pkg@atag then it'll get the latest version on that tag
01:45:27  <rvagg>`npm view pkg` and you can see the tags and the versions associated with them
01:45:39  <rvagg>`npm view ender` to see an example, we have "latest" and "dev"
01:46:06  <rvagg>dscape: another tip, `npm ls`
01:46:28  <rvagg>Felix uses tags too in his mysql project, `npm view mysql`
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01:49:37  <niggler>that's so sad mscdex
01:49:42  <niggler>so close to an actual word
01:49:46  <niggler>zyzzyva
01:52:59  <mscdex>huh? xyzzy is a magic word
01:54:19  <ack006>mscdex: npm needs an easter egg! :) or does it already have one.... s*bst*ck where the *!# are you when we need you??
01:55:46  <mscdex>Zork I or Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy as an easter egg
01:55:49  <mscdex>:-D
01:56:08  <ack006>nah must be something async :-D
01:57:49  <ack006>flying spaghetti monster with streaming tentacles ftw!!!
01:58:25  <mscdex>node should be modified to check for invocations like `node install foo` instead of `npm install foo`
01:58:32  <ack006>amen!
01:58:45  <mscdex>:-)
01:59:28  <No9>https://github.com/erictj/node-clucene
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02:01:48  <dscape>2 hours whoooo
02:01:48  <dscape>lol
02:01:59  <ack006>mscdex: just add an 'install' module to your node_modules dir, put an index.js in it which runs npm. dunno if it passes args but i guess so ;)
02:02:25  <ack006>then 'node install blah' should work i think
02:03:07  <JasonSmith>No9: Nice!
02:03:48  <No9>Guys at singly were working on it needs a little love....
02:04:21  <ack006>thanks for the show guys :-)
02:06:11  <ack006>mscdex: i tried making <app>/node_modules/install/index.js and yes, it works!
02:06:28  <mscdex>it needs to be built-in though ;-)
02:06:52  <No9>dscape that is awesome
02:06:56  <ack006>can't have everything, or just build it in yourself, node source code doesn't bite :-)
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02:07:36  <ack006>then make a pull request, ask nicely hihi
02:08:32  <ack006>lol!!!
02:08:47  <cjm>:)
02:08:47  <dscape>thanks No9
02:08:57  <ack006>+1
02:12:03  <ack006>:-)
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02:18:01  <dshaw_>thanks everyone
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10:07:43  <Topcat>Are the podcasts posted anywhere I can download because mixlr hides them away and there's nothing new on the .com for weeks
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11:41:47  <dshaw_>Topcat: There on itunes and http://nodeup.com
11:43:39  <dshaw_>I believe we're a bit behind on the podcast post-production releases.
11:45:18  <dshaw_>s/there/they're
11:45:27  * dshaw_tired. it's late
11:45:33  <Topcat>There's the top 3 on the mixlr feed that aren't listed in the podcast. I don't mind the releases they're done when they're done but I can't seem to grab them off mixlr and that site doesn't play here for some reason.
11:46:16  <dshaw_>Not sure about Mixlr. It's a relatively new service for us.
11:46:35  <dshaw_>We got off Ustream because the ads were just too annoying.
11:47:07  <Topcat>I suspect is my proxy blocking something the mixlr services runs. nodeup.com takes 30+ seconds to render as twitter times out (blocked)
11:47:18  <dshaw_>Topcat: new to the podcast?
11:47:58  <Topcat>Listening since about 11 or so maybe? I forget because I've back-listened to them.
11:48:59  <dshaw_>Nice.
11:49:54  <dshaw_>Conference travel threw off our schedule a bit… and then Craig went and won Node Knockout.
11:50:07  <dshaw_>:)
11:50:48  <dshaw_>Anyhoo, got to go get some sleep.
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