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18:54:26  <visnup>yoyoyo
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18:55:35  <graeme_f>sup :)
18:55:40  <visnup>setting up
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18:57:45  <dshaw_>Doing sound check now.
19:01:48  <visnup>live!
19:02:32  <_aaaronackerman_>node knockout is coming, you're doing nodeup
19:02:42  <cjm__>:)
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19:04:39  <benatkin>if you just had one fewer dimensions I could visualize it :)
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19:07:23  <benatkin>feh
19:07:53  <benatkin>three weeks later
19:08:02  <benatkin>there's the 14-day waiting period
19:08:07  <taterbase>What about when problems arise from nodejitsu deploys
19:08:13  <taterbase>ECONNREF
19:09:19  <benatkin>oh yeah apiary.io
19:09:54  <visnup>http://wordsquared.com
19:10:30  <visnup>taterbase: then we all chat it up in #nodejitsu
19:10:49  <visnup>nodejitsu will have all hands on board for support too
19:10:58  * hank__simspart
19:11:06  <visnup>(and joyent)
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19:11:21  <benatkin>what % of teams are 1-person? I'm probably going it alone this year
19:13:21  <visnup>benatkin: dunno right now
19:13:53  <benatkin>ah ok
19:14:39  <benatkin>last time not only did I have a hard time getting up-to-speed with my co-conspirators who were new to node, I was outvoted
19:14:47  <benatkin>...on what to build
19:15:00  <benatkin>it was still fun
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19:16:31  <benatkin>I remember last time some people thought node only made sense if you were using websockets. my how times have changed :)
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19:25:39  <visnup>http://doodleordie.com
19:26:16  <dylang>thanks for the shoutout!
19:26:27  <dylang>i'm one of Doodle or Die creators
19:26:44  <visnup>dylang: woooo
19:27:05  <visnup>49.1% of teams are solo currently
19:27:14  <dylang>170 people playing right now
19:27:33  <visnup>I've wasted so many hours on doodle or die
19:27:38  <dylang>haha
19:27:59  <dylang>we've got groups now - we gave 4chan a group and they have 500 members!
19:28:00  <benatkin>http://nodeknockout.com/rules
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19:29:19  <visnup>dylang: hahahahaha
19:29:27  <benatkin>hmm, what to eat (or not eat) during nko for maximum performance...
19:29:28  <visnup>I would so stay out of that group
19:30:19  <dylang>We did the rules planning for Doodle or Die ahead of time, and decided what we could drop if there wasn't time
19:31:27  <benatkin>I think being in a country in eastern europe would be ideal for nko
19:31:40  <benatkin>finish several hours after midnight
19:32:07  <benatkin>red bull and red vines
19:32:51  <benatkin>oatmeal maybe
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19:37:23  <dshaw_>http://nodeknockout.com/locations
19:40:01  <dylang>The first year there was a dashboard of all submissions - you could see which team's node servers were up and how many visitors they were getting, maybe a screenshot too. I think there was a pre-voting page that had screenshots for each site the second year. What can we expect this year?
19:40:43  <benatkin>are git projects public during the competition? can they be?
19:40:52  <benatkin>hmm, pull requests would be problematic
19:41:18  <benatkin>if you're internet famous
19:42:46  <visnup>dylang: one sec, will answer hopefully
19:42:57  <visnup>benatkin: they're defaulted to private
19:43:02  <visnup>you can make them public if you want
19:43:19  <dylang>Something that I *think* helped Doodle or Die: We did not require creating an account or require logging in with twitter/facebook. Those are cool things to do, but might keep already very busy judges and other partipants or don't trust their social info with an app built in < 48 hours from seeing your app. If your app requires it (like a github tool) then spend some time to show what it looks like for users who don't want to log in.
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19:46:39  <dylang>agree about popularity
19:46:45  <dylang>hide votes until the end
19:46:57  <dylang>or exact count - show rough number
19:48:06  <dylang>"most fun" and "best utility" as the same category was difficult from a competitive and peer-judging perspective.
19:48:54  <dylang>the nice thing about showing votes is we know other apps to check out.
19:50:01  <dylang>when peer judging i felt like a dick giving anything less than a 4/5. i would almost rather just an upvote or no vote.
19:51:07  <visnup>dylang: I know what you mean, not sure how to fix that one
19:51:12  <visnup>we at least do normalize
19:51:32  <visnup>so your 4/5 becomes more like a 2/4 :)
19:51:36  <dshaw_>http://blog.nodeknockout.com/
19:51:52  <visnup>but that's not too apparent
19:53:40  <dylang>what about giving every participant 1000 "votes" to distrute to all other projects, and there is a punishment factor for having any leftover "votes" at the end.
19:54:04  <dylang>and each project can get between 0 and 5 votes
19:54:28  <dylang>that might not fix anything :)
19:54:39  <visnup>haha
19:54:55  <_aaaronackerman_>Bower
19:55:15  <dylang>yeoman might be helpful for getting started
19:55:37  <ramitos>component is awesome
19:55:57  <ramitos>yeoman is not a package manager
19:56:07  <ramitos>it is built on top of bower
19:56:21  <`3rdEden>and ontop of grunt
19:56:24  <dylang>d3 is an extremly flexably visualization tool
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19:56:32  <ferlores>what was the one built on top or require + component?
19:56:52  <dylang>live feed died?
19:57:10  <ferlores>dylang, yes for me
19:57:10  <No9>yup
19:57:21  <cjm__>hrrrm really?
19:57:26  <andrewjm>yuuup
19:57:32  <cjm__>says that it's up
19:57:40  <ferlores>here says buffering...
19:57:42  <cjm__>1 sec
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19:58:05  <cjm__>should be back up in a sec
19:58:09  <dylang>back, thanks :)
19:58:44  <`3rdEden>http://nodeknockout.com/sponsors
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19:59:27  <dylang>+1 joyent && nodejitsu!!
20:00:29  <_aaaronackerman_>http://nodeknockout.com/sponsors linking to the 2011 prize page, might confuse some people
20:00:57  <visnup>true
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20:04:39  <visnup>theglamourist.com!
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20:05:46  <dshaw_>http://cascadiajs.com/
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20:10:24  <visnup>dylang: re dashboard, we're thinking of having something
20:10:28  <visnup>but not sure what yet
20:10:46  <dylang>there was also Mape's map that was pretty cool
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20:11:41  <visnup>we always take pull requests :)
20:13:05  <dylang>coffeescript.... no thanks :S
20:13:33  <visnup>hahahha
20:14:09  <visnup>actually, the dashboard was in plain js last year since it was by mape
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20:39:03  <fahad>Is it a chat room
20:39:08  <fahad>for need Geeks???
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