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17:36:44  <visnup>oooOo
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18:19:20  <visnup>'sup dshaw_!
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18:26:11  <dshaw_>visnup: sup dude
18:26:51  <dshaw_>http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/22058542.jpg
18:31:12  <visnup>http://memegenerator.net/instance/22058542 for the page version
18:31:32  <visnup>omgomgomg judging time
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18:43:04  <japj>how long till nodeup?
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18:47:36  <visnup>1 PM PDT
18:47:43  <visnup>4 PM EDT
18:49:52  <japj>and what is that in CEST? (I'm Europe ;)
18:51:00  <visnup>http://www.worldtimebuddy.com/event?lid=5391959,5128581,3435910,1275339,1816670&h=5391959&sts=22330500&sln=13-14&a=preview
18:51:03  <visnup>:)
18:51:18  <visnup>japj: whoops, http://bit.ly/OZqQlh
18:51:37  <visnup>1 hour, 9 minutes
18:51:39  <japj>so it starts in 1hour and 10 minutes then
18:51:41  <japj>ok
18:52:52  <japj>last time someone mentioned on twitter 'tomorrow nodeup', but then for me it was already "tomorrow", so that got slightly confusing
18:52:53  <japj>hehe
18:53:00  <visnup>haha
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19:37:22  <dscape>are we late?
19:37:23  <dscape>:)
19:37:29  <dscape>we are judging stuff and stuff
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19:59:12  <japj>can someone shout here when the ustream is live?
19:59:24  <chapel>I thought it was sunday?
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20:12:23  <visnup>isn't is sunday somewhere?
20:15:14  <chapel>lol
20:15:21  <chapel>well, not in oakland
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20:21:03  <visnup>you can set your clock to tokyo time
20:21:25  <visnup>then you'll be in the FUTURE
20:21:47  <japj>how come I need to read on twitter that nodeup will be live soon?
20:22:17  <dscape>NODE ALMOST UP
20:22:27  <japj>ah it must be the lagg
20:22:37  <visnup>'cuz it's just soon
20:22:44  <visnup>vs. actually up
20:22:45  <visnup>:P
20:23:12  <visnup>skype is setup
20:23:17  <visnup>dunno about ustream
20:23:31  <japj>not yet it seems
20:24:33  <japj>ustream channel is still offline
20:25:12  <visnup>is it up?
20:25:38  <japj>nope
20:25:53  <japj>yes
20:25:54  <japj>http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nodeup
20:25:57  <visnup>wooo
20:26:55  <visnup>http://hacknodeconf.jit.su
20:28:11  <japj>it's live!
20:28:16  <japj>no editing ;)
20:28:16  <visnup>http://visnup.com:8003 <- proxy to a working you laugh you lose instance
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20:29:01  <visnup>AvianFlu: let us know once youlaughyoulose.jitsu.com is up
20:29:16  <AvianFlu>will do, working on it :D
20:30:09  <dscape>https://skitch.com/dscape/eb856/you-laugh-you-lose
20:30:19  <AvianFlu>deploying opencv is a little bit complicated, but I'll have it up soon
20:30:23  <visnup>https://github.com/koudelka/Face.js
20:30:56  <guybrush>https://github.com/harthur/kittydar
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20:36:31  <visnup>https://github.com/bigeasy/timezone
20:36:36  <visnup>this is a lot of github urls..
20:37:14  <guybrush>https://github.com/TooTallNate/node-time (:
20:37:16  <`3rdEden>that t folder reminds me of perl ;9
20:37:18  <visnup>https://github.com/indexzero/timespan.js
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20:39:23  <guybrush>http://momentjs.com/ this is really good
20:39:26  <guybrush>i like it a lot
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20:42:13  <guybrush>https://github.com/harthur/hog-descriptor -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histogram_of_oriented_gradients
20:49:35  <visnup>http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/22058542.jpg
20:50:02  <guybrush>idea: we could use https://github.com/jesusabdullah/hoarders to install all modules AT ONCE and run `npm test <moduleX>` :D
20:50:03  <japj>travis doesn't do windows tests yet ;(
20:50:34  <guybrush>global namespace for the win
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20:52:52  <guybrush>https://github.com/visionmedia/n is the best - by far!
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20:54:28  <dscape>guybrush: nop
20:54:30  <dscape>nave
20:55:27  <guybrush>i wont argue with you, im right
20:55:53  <guybrush>balancers ftw
20:56:47  <guybrush>maybe after 0.8 we get a js http-parser?
20:57:36  <guybrush>what do you guys think about indutny's balancer?
20:57:38  <guybrush>https://github.com/indutny/sticky-session
20:58:58  <ralphtheninja>n looks cool .. keep it simple!
21:00:02  <chapel>finally
21:00:04  <chapel>node knockout!
21:00:08  <mikeal>there will be an attempt in 0.9 to re-write the parser in js
21:00:25  <chapel>November?
21:01:32  <visnup>november
21:01:42  <chapel>just making sure I heard you right
21:01:46  <chapel>:)
21:02:32  <chapel>no prizes!
21:02:34  <guybrush>raspberry pi should be a price!
21:03:13  <chapel>the competition is what matters
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21:12:06  <visnup>it's weird how no prizes gets so much support
21:12:21  <visnup>I always expect people to want prizes
21:12:41  <mikeal>nah, it ruins it
21:12:57  <visnup>it does bring the assholes out
21:13:09  <mikeal>it just makes the whole experience less fun i think
21:15:39  <visnup>the other idea is a wiki page of sorts for random people to add prizes they'll send to people
21:15:48  <visnup>but that'd end up pretty confusing
21:16:03  <chapel>no prizes is just simpler
21:16:31  <visnup>gonna float the idea around at nodeconf more
21:16:41  <visnup>I'm for it
21:16:44  <mikeal>good call
21:17:14  <chapel>it also makes people not feel as bad about losing
21:17:16  <japj>a prize could be that your entry gets hosted for a year ;)
21:17:40  <chapel>startup weekend does no prizes
21:18:27  <chapel>visnup: one issue that could have been a non-issue with no prizes is how to handle someone like `3rdEden
21:18:44  <chapel>where he technically was both overall and solo
21:19:33  <chapel>no prizes means it doesn't matter which slot
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21:20:25  <visnup>http://visnup.com:8003/
21:21:36  <chapel>hmm
21:21:44  <chapel>screen goes white when I allow?
21:21:59  <visnup>chrome dev channel?
21:22:05  <chapel>yep
21:22:35  <chapel>restarting
21:22:37  <chapel>chrome
21:23:05  <chapel>works now
21:24:14  <visnup>segfaulted
21:24:15  <visnup>haha
21:24:48  <visnup>I just like to see random head shots of other people every once in a while
21:25:47  <chapel>would be great to see the other people
21:25:53  <visnup>dscape: wants this to be a drinking game
21:25:54  <chapel>would make it harder too
21:25:58  <dshaw_>http://visnup.com:8003/
21:26:08  <chapel>I think it would be hilarious
21:26:12  <chapel>as a drinking game
21:26:16  <chapel>but you have to see each other
21:26:45  <visnup>hahahahaha
21:26:59  <dshaw_>indexzero: lol
21:27:00  <visnup>that one of charlie drinking was awesome
21:27:09  <dshaw_>Needed to grab that pic.
21:27:55  <mikeal>there are too many conferences
21:28:03  <visnup>conference whore
21:28:04  <mikeal>i can't even remember all of them anymore
21:28:56  <dshaw_>Bustin' out the Bullit
21:29:03  <chapel>we need javascript unconfs now
21:29:13  <mikeal>nodeconf summer camp is an unconf
21:29:16  <dshaw_>More unconfs
21:29:26  <dshaw_>Winter camp needs to happen
21:29:54  <dshaw_>dscape: I'm not downloading Opera. Fuck that.
21:29:56  <chapel>winter camp with skiing, hot tubbing and snow ball fights!
21:29:57  <visnup>and spring camp
21:29:59  <visnup>and fall camp
21:30:07  <dshaw_>chapel: yep
21:30:09  <chapel>just need node year camp
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21:31:01  <visnup>killed visnup.com:8003
21:31:08  <visnup>that was proxied to my local machine
21:31:09  <visnup>haha
21:31:14  <chapel>nice
21:31:28  <chapel>if AvianFlu would get shit working, it could be on jitsu
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21:31:40  <visnup>hahaha
21:31:48  <chapel><3
21:31:48  <visnup>it was not trivial
21:32:04  <chapel>yeah I have no idea what was used to make it, is the repo open?
21:32:30  <visnup>not yet
21:32:41  <visnup>https://github.com/koudelka/Face.js
21:32:44  <visnup>is the core
21:32:54  <visnup>and the hard to install part
21:33:01  <chapel>so one thing I haven't seen much of, and would like a nodeup on, node in embedded or small platforms, like raspberrypi/arduino/arm
21:33:09  <dshaw_>Ana or Charlie still around?
21:33:23  <dshaw_>dscape: Any idea when they're going to OS?
21:33:32  <visnup>chapel: get tmpvar on that one
21:33:40  <chapel>and creationix :)
21:33:48  <dshaw_>Pretty sure reconbot was down.
21:35:26  <dscape>chapel its webrtc
21:35:27  <dscape>socketio
21:35:30  <dscape>express
21:35:30  <chapel>yeah
21:35:44  <dscape>i have all of those already open sourced on my github
21:35:49  <dscape>for my chatroulette app
21:35:51  <dscape>the code is similar
21:35:52  <guybrush>there was a threejs demo some time ago
21:36:01  <dscape>then you are missing the machine learning and stuff
21:36:03  <guybrush>browsertalk or something
21:36:05  <dscape>but this is some impressive demo
21:36:12  <dshaw_>visnup: So, you can never shut down your computer?
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21:37:03  <dscape>visnup did your computer like hackernews fame?
21:37:05  <dscape>;)
21:37:29  <dscape>they need to do the face detection shit client side though
21:37:34  <dscape>sending frames is fucked up
21:38:26  <chapel>yeah, client side and verify on server
21:38:54  <visnup>dscape: that's probably what caused crashes
21:39:14  <visnup>should I get it bac up?
21:39:48  <guybrush>does it work in chrome without a --enable-webrtc flag or sth?
21:39:56  <chapel>about:flags
21:40:01  <dscape>guybrush: about:flags
21:40:01  <chapel>and turn on webrtc
21:40:04  <dscape>to turn it on
21:40:04  <guybrush>ic
21:40:08  <dscape>but opera next is nice
21:40:10  <visnup>it just worked for me w/o doing anything
21:40:11  <guybrush>well i dont have a cam :D
21:40:26  <chapel>for me it was the p2p option
21:40:28  <guybrush>but i am interested in the code :>
21:40:43  <guybrush>do you guys think webrtc will be a game-changer?
21:40:57  <visnup>guybrush: eventually
21:41:00  <guybrush>like distributed services p2p
21:41:03  <dscape>guybrush: https://github.com/dscape/jsday12/tree/master/socketio_skyply
21:41:14  <dscape>guybrush: that needs to be at the websocket levl
21:41:18  <dscape>actually
21:41:24  <dscape>a browser would need to open a port
21:41:27  <dscape>for that to work
21:41:32  <dscape>it would also need to be a webserver
21:42:05  <guybrush>and do you guys know if isps throttle p2p?
21:42:15  <visnup>they generally do
21:42:27  <visnup>at least once it starts to show up on their bandwidth radar
21:42:27  <guybrush>they shouldnt :D
21:42:32  <guybrush>ye
21:42:47  <dscape>well if it was possible
21:42:49  <visnup>but you'll have a while before you're competing with netflix bandwidth
21:42:52  <dscape>to do a p2p.js
21:42:55  <dscape>that would be gold
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21:43:08  <dscape>i wouldnt even mind being soft realtime
21:43:13  <visnup>dscape: to transfer a file?
21:43:24  <guybrush>btw this is the example i mentioned before http://learningthreejs.com/blog/2012/04/12/video-conference-on-top-of-webgl/
21:43:30  <visnup>dscape: or to do like cluster work?
21:43:41  <dscape>visnup: think about doing chatroulette
21:43:48  <dscape>why the fuck would all frames go to a server?
21:43:56  <visnup>ah, that's what you mean
21:44:03  <visnup>yeah totally
21:44:08  <dscape>think about any MMPORG
21:44:12  <dscape>or whatever they are called
21:44:14  <dscape>LOLOL
21:44:16  <dscape>im sooo wasted
21:44:18  <dscape>rof
21:44:18  <guybrush>DISTRIBUTED MMORPG
21:44:19  <dscape>l
21:44:27  <guybrush>we need loudbot in here!
21:44:43  <visnup>I don't think the server is going anywhere for a while though
21:44:48  <visnup>especially for mmos
21:44:54  <guybrush>the problem
21:44:59  <guybrush>with mmo and p2p is
21:45:01  <visnup>because of cheating
21:45:03  <guybrush>you cant trust the client
21:45:07  <visnup>yeah
21:45:07  <guybrush>ofc
21:45:11  <guybrush>it would be
21:45:15  <guybrush>a different mmo :D
21:45:19  <visnup>hahaha
21:45:22  <guybrush>no rules hihi
21:45:25  <visnup>yeah
21:45:34  <guybrush>but you could choose
21:45:39  <visnup>first p2p type of websocket game I did, we enjoyed that the client could be hacked
21:45:40  <guybrush>with whom you want to play
21:45:53  <guybrush>and you can then trust each other again :)
21:45:54  <visnup>and that you could add features to yourself
21:46:03  <dscape>well that is BS
21:46:04  <visnup>true
21:46:07  <dscape>any code for validation
21:46:10  <dscape>tht works on server
21:46:13  <dscape>could be on clients
21:46:16  <dscape>upon response
21:46:17  <guybrush>best would be tls
21:46:27  <guybrush>?
21:47:26  <guybrush>also its not trivial to distribute events i guess?
21:47:37  <guybrush>with a large amount of nodes
21:48:18  <visnup>latency gets weird
21:48:23  <visnup>and state-of-the-world
21:48:47  <guybrush>the nodes would have to know about each other
21:49:17  <visnup>not saying p2p isn't superior, but it's several orders of magnitude more complicated
21:49:51  <visnup>and client-server has got the problems solved for quite some time
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21:50:22  <guybrush>well
21:51:11  <guybrush>i cant wait for whats coming up with all this webrtc and webgl and websockets and.. awesome time to be a webdeveloper :D
21:51:40  <visnup>yeah, simple APIs = awesome
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23:11:32  <guybrush>lol
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23:12:25  <guybrush>i use http://www.splitcamera.com/ to stream a video into my browser :D
23:13:18  <guybrush>http://html5videoguide.net/presentations/WebDirCode2012/websocket/websocket-server.js
23:13:18  <guybrush>http://html5videoguide.net/presentations/WebDirCode2012/websocket/webrtc.html
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