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01:46:47  <rvagg>xsl-fo is xml... but it's got the maximum flexibility for making pdfs, I'm aiming for html and markdown to pdf at some point too
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03:13:21  <jesusabdullah>guys what are flavors in pkgcloud again?
03:14:32  <jesusabdullah>okay nvm finally found the vocab sheet
03:15:05  <jesusabdullah>ahhhh
03:15:06  <jesusabdullah>okay
03:15:17  <jesusabdullah>so what's an example blob to get from getFlavors() ?
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03:41:20  <jcrugzz>jesusabdullah: depends on the provider
03:41:50  <jcrugzz>but like machine size mostly
03:41:51  <jesusabdullah>jcrugzz: what's typical?
03:42:02  <jesusabdullah>jcrugzz: are there things that will always be there?
03:42:19  <jcrugzz>let me see what joyent has
03:42:22  <jcrugzz>and ill give you a list
03:43:03  <jesusabdullah>I had a crazy idea
03:43:18  <jesusabdullah>think it might actually work
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03:44:31  <jcrugzz>cause they arent really very typical but the basic ones are Small 1G, Medium 2G, Medium 4G, etc
03:44:43  <jcrugzz>and joyent has some complicated ones as well
03:45:06  <jcrugzz>jesusabdullah: what is this idea?
03:45:06  <jesusabdullah>are those "name" properties?
03:45:42  <jesusabdullah>jcrugzz: a part of Data Center Tycoon, where I use it to simulate backends against a common api that the consumer AI uses
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03:47:29  <jcrugzz>jesusabdullah: name and ids
03:47:43  <jesusabdullah>and otherwise arbitrary properties?
03:49:23  <jcrugzz>jesusabdullah: so you are thinking of another more generic layer ontop of pkgcloud?
03:49:31  <jcrugzz>for consumers
03:49:47  <jesusabdullah>naw, think a mocking framework for providers
03:50:16  <jesusabdullah>and an ai that "pulls the levers" on pkgcloud based on some turn-based self-optimizing logic
03:50:32  <jesusabdullah>two different parts
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03:52:08  <jcrugzz>ahh interesting
03:53:00  <jcrugzz>jesusabdullah: so what would be its purpose, who would use this thing exactly
03:54:41  <jesusabdullah>jcrugzz: my long-term goal is to write a business simulator game where you're a web hosting company
03:54:54  <jesusabdullah>jcrugzz: you start in 1992, the dawn of the information age
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03:55:35  <jesusabdullah>jcrugzz: and sell/invest in infrastructure, first implementing things like colo and ftp and leading up to cloud computing and beyond
03:55:56  <jcrugzz>that would be kind of interesting. make it like a civilization game
03:56:00  <jcrugzz>imo
03:56:02  <jesusabdullah>jcrugzz: but I figure the only sane way to balance it is to write AIs to test it out
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03:57:50  <jesusabdullah>jcrugzz: jitsu-like ui with html elements in a simulated terminal in a web page
03:58:02  <jcrugzz>ohh ok
03:58:20  <jcrugzz>that gives a better mental picture
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04:00:58  <jesusabdullah>jcrugzz: yeah, the ui should be interesting
04:01:06  <jesusabdullah>jcrugzz: but I gotta have something to build that on top of first
04:01:15  <jcrugzz>jesusabdullah: yea makes sense
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14:14:08  <EricGuo>HTTPS access like https://myapp.jit.su show the error: The site's security certificate is not trusted!
14:14:29  <EricGuo>or just me?
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14:24:07  <mmalecki>EricGuo: hey, I just tested out, it works. which IP did you hit?
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14:42:19  <Powerplex>hi !
14:42:24  <Sly>Hey, Powerplex.
14:42:48  <Powerplex>I have a small problem with a module dependency
14:42:54  <Powerplex>in my main package.json :p
14:42:58  <Sly>Powerplex: what seems to be the problem?
14:43:19  <Powerplex>lcally i do not have to put the dependencies for the modules I made myself
14:43:44  <Powerplex>so i just used require('./index.js') on my server file
14:43:58  <Powerplex>now i tried to make it clean
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14:44:15  <Powerplex>i chenged my modules and gave them a package.json for each one
14:44:33  <Powerplex>for exemple, i have a module called "models"
14:44:41  <Sly>Powerplex: did you put them in node_modules?
14:44:56  <Powerplex>in my main package.json , i write "models":"0.0.x"
14:45:00  <Powerplex>yes
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14:45:14  <Powerplex>huuuu
14:45:15  <Sly>Okay. Rather than putting the dependency in "dependencies" with a version...
14:45:25  <Sly>You need to do like "bundledDependencies": [ "models" ]
14:45:26  <Powerplex>i just tried jitsu deploy for the fifth time
14:45:30  <Sly>That will bundle your local version with it.
14:45:33  <Powerplex>and it just worked for that module.....
14:45:51  <Sly>Are you sure it worked, or it just didn't show you the error because of another error?
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14:46:11  <Powerplex>it shows another error but on the next module
14:46:17  <Powerplex>and it's the same so I can fix it
14:47:05  <Powerplex>I tell you in a minute
14:47:09  <Sly>Yeah. Just add them into "bundledDependencies": []
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14:48:08  <Powerplex>now they are in "dependencies": {...}
14:48:28  <Sly>Yeah, but "dependencies" are things that need to be installed from NPM.
14:48:32  <Powerplex>Do I add your line juste after that ?
14:48:35  <Sly>"bundledDependencies" are for local modules you want to send with the package.
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14:48:45  <Powerplex>aaaah okay thank you
14:48:55  <Sly>:)
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14:49:56  <Powerplex>and it's wrapped between {} like "dependencies" ? or [] ?
14:50:19  <Sly>Bundled is an array. It doesn't need a version since it's not installing anything.
14:50:40  <Sly>It'd just be like [ "module1", "module2", "module3", etc. ]
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14:51:12  <mixedmedia>I am getting a error message saying that I need to upgrade my jitsu on Mac OSX 10.84 with node 0.10.15 and NPM 1.3.5
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14:51:41  <mixedmedia>When I jun the sudo install command it does nothinhg
14:51:57  <Sly>mixedmedia: uhm.. can you paste the error to https://gist.github.com?
14:52:07  <mixedmedia>sure sly
14:52:52  <Powerplex>{ "name": "portfolio", "version": "0.0.0-17", "description": "Real time web chat", "dependencies": { "socket.io": "latest", "express": "latest", "jade": "latest", "less": "latest", "i18n": "latest", "colors": "latest", "mongoose": "latest" }, "bundledDependencies": [ "routes", "models", "console", 'global_setup'], "author": "julien bonnin", "s
14:52:57  <Powerplex>oops sorry
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14:53:06  <Powerplex>it says invalid "package.json file"
14:53:12  <Sly>Powerplex: Use " instead of '
14:53:14  <Sly>' isn't valid json
14:53:26  <Sly>'global_setup' -> "global_setup"
14:53:52  <Powerplex>sorry i'm a bit tired
14:53:58  <Sly>It's cool. :)
14:54:03  <Powerplex>habe been working on debugging Prestashop all day XD
14:56:17  <mixedmedia>@Sly https://gist.github.com/mixedmedia/88c56e73cc66f07ae46a
14:56:35  <mixedmedia>Its long... sorry
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14:56:43  <Powerplex>it works perfectly now, thank you ! good bye
14:57:18  <Sly>mixedmedia: looks like, for some reason, your jitsu isn't updating globally.
14:57:23  <Sly>Powerplex: no problem. Have a good one. :)
14:57:49  <Sly>mixedmedia: when you update, it installs 0.12.15 but it shows 0.12.11 when you run jitsu. Are you using nvm or something of that nature that could be changing where stuff is installed?
14:58:03  <mixedmedia>homebrew...
14:58:17  <Sly>Homebrew shouldn't effect this.
14:58:39  <Sly>Try this for me: `ls $(which jitsu)`
14:58:56  <Sly>er
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14:59:02  <Sly>`ls -l $(which jitsu)`
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14:59:03  <Sly>Sorry
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15:00:32  <mixedmedia>i get /usr/local/bin/jitsu
15:00:38  <Sly>Try it with -l. Sorry.
15:00:49  <Sly>It should show you a path where the symlink sent to.
15:01:01  <Sly>*is sent to
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15:01:46  <mixedmedia>This is what I get lrwxr-xr-x 1 root admin 35 Jun 18 13:34 /usr/local/bin/jitsu -> ../lib/node_modules/jitsu/bin/jitsu
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15:02:57  <Sly>Hm.. okay, that's what it should be.
15:03:07  <Sly>Try that same command with `sudo` and see if it changes.
15:03:53  <mixedmedia>-l $(which jitsu) ?
15:03:57  <mixedmedia>with sudo
15:03:59  <Sly>Yup.
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15:05:26  <mixedmedia>I get title:8: parse error /usr/local/bin/jitsu
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15:05:32  <Sly>o_o
15:06:08  <Sly>I've never seen that before, and it definitely shouldn't be coming from a system command.
15:07:39  <mixedmedia>yeah I know its very weird.. Should I uninstall and reinstall or something?
15:08:06  <Sly>mixedmedia: not sure. It sounds like your OS is out of whack if it's throwing something like that from `ls` or `which`.
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15:11:52  <Sly>mixedmedia: have you tried restarting?
15:12:40  <mixedmedia>let me give that a try. I will be right back
15:13:01  <Sly>I'll be here. :)
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15:27:48  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/rackspace/pkgcloud/compare/fda49cd625e5...135ef171f442
15:27:48  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/rackspace/pkgcloud/builds/9652926
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16:35:29  <jsfs>Is it possible to write files using nodejitsu, and if so, is there a specific area we should write to?
16:36:50  <Sly>jsfs: you can write files, but they won't be in your package when you deploy again. Our filesystems aren't persistent.
16:37:01  <Sly>There's also no way to fetch them.
16:37:18  <jsfs>Thanks Sly. Actually found it in the docs right now.
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17:01:09  <HARI_>WHAT ISTECHNICAL SPEC OF DRONE
17:02:48  <Sly>HARI_: each drone is one application on one server. If you have an individual plan, 256 MB of RAM. Business plans can go up to 1 GB of RAM.
17:04:10  <HARI_>DO U HAVE TAT INFO ON WEBSTE
17:04:39  <Sly>https://www.nodejitsu.com/paas/faq/#what-is-a-drone-
17:04:57  <Sly>It doesn't state specifics there, though.
17:05:35  <HARI_>WHY R U HIDING INFO
17:06:00  <HARI_>CAN UPDATE ON SITE
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17:06:58  <HARI_>DO U HAVE ANY BENCHMRKS FOR EACH DROME
17:07:35  <HARI_>SO USERS CAN ET ETTER IDEA
17:08:26  <HARI_>SO USERS CAN GET BETTER IDEA
17:08:55  <rossk>HARI_: I'm not with nodejitsu, but its considered rude to type in all caps on IRC
17:09:08  <Sly>We don't have benchmarks for the drones.
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17:11:05  <Sly>HARI_: If we were to post a benchmark of a drone sending a simple PING->PONG request and it were to get 500 connections... everyone would expect their drone to get 500 connections.
17:11:29  <Sly>It really depends on what you're doing.
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19:59:50  <patrickod>anyone here ever experienced an issue where a node server under load can't make outbound HTTP requests ?
20:00:16  <patrickod>at the moment only one route makes outbound HTTP requests and it's not being used in production, this is test only
20:00:35  <patrickod>it works on my development machine but when deployed all outbound HTTP requests fail with ETIMEOUT
20:01:11  <patrickod>I'm using izs' cluster-master and the request works in the REPL, the problem is isolated to the child-processes themselves
20:01:53  <julianduque>patrickod: are you using cluster on nodejitsu?
20:02:58  <julianduque>patrickod: what is your username/appname?
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20:03:58  <patrickod>julianduque not on nodejitsu. I ask here because #node.js hasn't been helpful and I know that people in the channel are usually very knowledgable
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20:05:29  <julianduque>patrickod: ohh.. gotcha, I never experienced that issue so i can't help, maybe another user knows about it :)
20:08:19  <patrickod>yeah it's a mystery to me thus far. I thought it might be open file limits but that would show errors elsewhere.
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20:12:37  <nathan7>patrickod: ulimits?
20:13:14  <patrickod>ulimit -n shows 32768 which should be more than enough.
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20:14:19  <patrickod>the application is able to make database connections. It works with redis and mongodb as it should.
20:14:51  <patrickod>I have a test route that uses the request module to get google and pipe out the body as the response. These requests time out every single time
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20:31:15  <josephwe_>Hey #nodejitsu - got some pricing questions. Anyone available to help?
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20:31:52  <julianduque>josephwe_: sure
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20:33:23  <josephwe_>Great! So, we're workin on an app that will vary drastically on the number of drones we need. For instance, this month we will probably only need 2 drones. Next month we may need 9, and then next month we may only need 3. So, it seems like the pricing requires that I get the "Regular" business plan to secure 10 drones for our peak times.
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20:33:59  <josephwe_>However, the "Large" plan seems like I can just pay per-drone. That would be much cheaper during the valleys, but the per-drone rate is much higher. Is there any way to pay per-drone on the lower plans?
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20:34:51  <josephwe_>Like, it's probably safe to say that I will never need more than 10 drones. But I don't want to pay for all ten drones, and I also would prefer not to pay the higher per-drone rate on the large plan
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20:35:04  <josephwe_>*I don't want to pay for all ten drones if I'm only using two
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20:36:01  <julianduque>josephwe_: please write to sales@nodejitsu.com and explain your case to sales team, maybe they have a solution for you
20:36:10  <josephwe_>julianduque, thanks
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21:24:52  <mmalecki>kenperkins: yeah, sup?
21:25:12  <kenperkins>thinking about a mod to the base model.setWait function wanted to run it by someone else
21:25:22  <kenperkins>setWait as it's designed is kind of limited
21:25:43  <kenperkins>I want to provide an optional matching function so you can do more complex logic without having to bake that into the function proper
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21:26:30  <kenperkins>i.e. model.setWait(function(details) { return (details.foo && !details.bar && details.baz > 3); }, function(err, callback) { … });
21:26:50  <kenperkins>it would still behave as is if you pass an object
21:26:57  <kenperkins>does that seem reasonable?
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21:29:16  <mmalecki>kenperkins: sure, that sounds great
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21:37:00  <rossk>kenperkins: you submit to cascadiajs?
21:37:06  <kenperkins>no
21:37:10  <kenperkins>i've been heads down
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21:38:32  <rossk>same here -- I'll probably submit something at 0 hour
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21:40:17  <rossk>big man on campus
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21:44:12  <kenperkins>indexzero: whats the motivation behind listZones vs getZones? there's no established pattern in pkgcloud now, lots of getFoos
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22:02:45  <jcrugzz>kenperkins: he just stepped out. how many listX's are there vs getXs?
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22:05:17  <kenperkins>i'd wager 90% gets :D
22:06:40  <jcrugzz>which ones are selected as list? im assuming by your initial statement there is no conformity
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22:13:38  <nathan7>HELLO FROM OHM2013
22:14:19  <kenperkins>that's right
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22:23:11  <jcrugzz>kenperkins: yea if you think get's on them make more sense, make them all gets or use list for the ones where it seems more logical.
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22:28:53  <rossk>kenperkins: I should probably rework the cli commands to match 'get' as well
22:28:59  <rossk>I think i put in list-servers, list-images, etc
22:29:17  <rossk>or at least I should be consistent with everything else
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22:32:47  <kenperkins>rgr that
22:33:31  <mmalecki>oh, you guys are working on a CLI tool for pkgcloud?
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22:34:06  <rossk>mmalecki: short answer: yes
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22:34:17  <rossk>I threw something together in a day or two last week
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22:34:44  <rossk>its not ready for prime-time just yet -- it requires a private package that I need to cleanup and open-source
22:35:00  <rossk>you can track my progress here: https://github.com/rosskukulinski/pkgcloud-cli
22:35:25  <rossk>but I'm hoping to have something ready by the end of the week for at least compute w/ rackspace & openstack
22:35:46  <mmalecki>rossk: you guys want to see how we do it in baton?
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22:35:55  <rossk>mmalecki: love to
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22:36:10  <mmalecki>let me see if docs are public
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22:36:29  <mmalecki>rossk: http://docs.opsmezzo.com/baton/resources
22:37:32  <rossk>mmalecki: thanks
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22:39:26  <rossk>darn VPN
22:39:30  <rossk>kicked me off
22:41:15  <rossk>mmalecki: how do you handle auth with the various providers?
22:41:53  <mmalecki>rossk: we have this thing called groups
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22:42:21  <mmalecki>rossk: each group is pretty much what you pass to pkgcloud.createClient
22:42:50  <rossk>ah, ok
22:43:04  <rossk>and credentials are stored in a file on your fs?
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22:43:12  <rossk>or entered when you create the group?
22:43:15  <kenperkins>I'm not workin gon it :(
22:43:19  <kenperkins>I'm workin gon dns providers
22:43:27  <mmalecki>rossk: enteret when you create a group. they are stored in a db
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22:44:00  <rossk>mmalecki: ok, i just didn't see that in the doc for baton groups create
22:44:23  <rossk>mmalecki: is baton written in node?
22:44:33  <mmalecki>rossk: yup
22:45:30  <rossk>the group idea is interesting
22:45:57  <mmalecki>it's the only way to manage this clusterfuck reliably, lol
22:46:02  <rossk>my prototype is based on a json file in your path somewhere
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22:46:18  <rossk>which has the data that would be passed to createClient
22:46:37  <rossk>since it's a standalone cli tool -- DB would be too much
22:47:05  <mmalecki>yeah, it's a better idea for the thing you're doing
22:47:15  <mmalecki>you could employ the idea of groups too
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22:49:06  <rossk>mmalecki: with quill, how do you do manage system configuration (i.e. not application config)?
22:49:21  <rossk>e.g. managing iptables rules
22:49:47  <rossk>I'm using ansible... others might use puppet/chef
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22:50:29  <rossk>or is that the roles that comes from conservatory?
22:51:31  <mmalecki>rossk: oh, let me show you
22:51:53  <rossk>and if I'm poking too hard, just let me know
22:51:57  <mmalecki>take a look at https://github.com/opsmezzo/composer-systems/tree/master/base/smartos-base
22:52:18  <mmalecki>there's https://github.com/opsmezzo/composer-systems/blob/master/base/smartos-base/scripts/install.sh script which can put files in place
22:52:26  <mmalecki>this one does it in $HOME
22:52:33  <mmalecki>but you can as well do it in /etc
22:52:42  <rossk>oooo, ok, so this is eerily similar to ansible
22:52:52  <mmalecki>and if you depend on configuration values from config entities, you'd do it in config.sh
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22:54:20  <mmalecki>and you could do something like (guessing the syntax, since I don't do Linux that much these days) `iptables rule add forward $q_firewall_port $q_firewall_host`
22:54:39  <mmalecki>rossk: and it'd get appropriate values from the actual config document for you
22:54:57  <rossk>mhmm
22:55:00  <rossk>makes complete sense
22:55:38  <mmalecki>also damn convenient
22:55:39  <rossk>can you do the templating in your files?
22:55:51  <mmalecki>yup!
22:55:52  <rossk>i.e.. copy file to server, inserting values
22:55:53  <rossk>ok
22:56:01  <rossk>is it all oss now?
22:56:01  <mmalecki>let me show you an example
22:56:04  <mmalecki>yup
22:56:30  <rossk>what software needs to be installed on a target machine?
22:56:43  <rossk>or is it all done over ssh
22:57:03  <mmalecki>rossk: https://github.com/opsmezzo/composer-systems/blob/master/opsmezzo/composer/templates/composer.json
22:57:14  <mmalecki>rossk: so, you basically need quill and that's it
22:57:42  <mmalecki>rossk: https://gist.github.com/mmalecki/bcfe04e8bf9f127c9019
22:58:03  <mmalecki>rossk: this'll bootstrap a machine into a machine with quill, node and all that
22:58:27  <mmalecki>rossk: you also need .quillconf to tell quill what server to talk to, etc.
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22:59:43  <rossk>I'll have to ponder this vs. ansible
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23:00:33  <mmalecki>rossk: I like quill because it has clear distinction over install and configure
23:00:38  <rossk>and/or our image-based deployment
23:00:42  <mmalecki>so you can create images with software installed
23:00:54  <mmalecki>and then configure them when putting VMs to use
23:01:21  <rossk>do you have a quick-start guide somewhere?
23:01:26  <rossk>or just the docs you pointed me to?
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23:03:37  <mmalecki>rossk: http://docs.opsmezzo.com/quill and http://docs.opsmezzo.com/system-json are good resources on quill, but there's no quick start guide per se. it sounds like a one day project tho
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23:04:18  <rossk>ok, thanks mmalecki
23:04:29  <rossk>always cool to see what y'all are up to
23:05:10  <mmalecki>rossk: btw, if you have any questions and I'm not here, feel free to email me at maciej at nodejitsu.com
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23:05:39  <rossk>understood, you can find me at rossk at labs.asti-usa.com or ross.kukulinski at asti-usa.com
23:06:04  <mmalecki>word. so what were you planning on using ansible for?
23:06:24  <rossk>well we're using it now to basically do system templating
23:06:35  <rossk>as well as rolling updates of systems already in production
23:06:57  <rossk>i.e. start with vanilla centos, setup repos, keys, basic packages
23:07:05  <mmalecki>right. so quill can update systems and manage keys too
23:07:23  <mmalecki>also, if you're into that sort of thing, you can make your VMs automatically manage keys
23:07:33  <mmalecki>it's basically zero friction if you have quill set up already
23:07:35  <rossk>then install our voice/communication/sound system and join it to the network
23:08:23  <mmalecki>https://github.com/opsmezzo/doorkeeper - it talks to composer each time you try to SSH in and finds out if proper key is in there
23:08:50  <rossk>nifty
23:09:04  <rossk>I am concerned about long-term stability of opsmezzo
23:09:09  <rossk>erm, stability wrong word
23:09:16  <rossk>ownership
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23:09:30  <mmalecki>quill also has key management, but it's authorized_keys based
23:09:39  <mmalecki>which is totally fine for smaller operations
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23:09:54  <mmalecki>I mean, it's our enterprise product, it's not going away
23:10:41  <rossk>well you don't list a LICENSE anywhere
23:11:00  <mmalecki>OHH
23:11:03  <mmalecki>quill has no license
23:11:04  <mmalecki>damn
23:11:18  <rossk>almost all of them are missing license
23:11:30  <nathan7>not even in the package.json?
23:11:30  <mmalecki>it's all MIT, and I'm going to add it now
23:11:57  <rossk>nope nathan7
23:12:55  <nathan7>hrmpf
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23:13:38  <stevemanuel>is there a way to see what amount of RAM an app is allocated through jitsu (256, 512, etc)?
23:14:34  <julianduque>stevemanuel: run `jitsu cloud`
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23:14:53  <julianduque>stevemanuel: it shows the vm size and datacenter
23:15:12  <stevemanuel>@julianduque: excellent, thank you!
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23:15:17  <nodejitsu-github>quill/master 429798e Maciej Małecki: [doc] Add a LICENSE
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23:15:30  <nodejitsu-github>composer-systems/master 072a64c Maciej Małecki: [system] Upgrade ubuntu servers before installing software
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23:16:22  <mmalecki>rossk: ^ boom
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23:16:51  <rossk>:D mmalecki
23:16:59  <rossk>but the composer-api is still Proprietary. Copyright (c) 2013 Nodejitsu Inc.
23:16:59  <rossk>:D
23:17:05  <mmalecki>damn XD
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23:18:02  <rossk>mmalecki: you might just want to sanity check everything on https://github.com/opsmezzo/
23:18:08  <jcrugzz>rossk: good looks, cause yea its all MIT, anything we have as open source
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23:18:29  <mmalecki>rossk: yeah, I'll ask
23:18:31  <rossk>jcrugzz: that's great, glad to help
23:18:43  <mmalecki>*I'll ask someone to write a thing for it
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23:19:08  <mmalecki>rossk: added to composer-api too
23:19:19  <mmalecki>jcrugzz: yeah, except you can't tell that to your lawyers
23:19:33  <mmalecki>jcrugzz: 'everything nodejitsu releases is MIT, chill' XD
23:19:39  <jcrugzz>mmalecki: xD
23:19:46  <rossk>especially when I have to deal with the military
23:19:58  <rossk>we have to be really careful about package selection
23:20:23  <jcrugzz>yea makes sense
23:20:52  <mmalecki>rossk: so all dependencies need a license in the end?
23:21:19  <rossk>yep
23:21:24  <mmalecki>lol. quill uses 2 modules of mine which are called `wtfos` and `wtfpm` XD
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23:21:52  <rossk>mhmm -- every product we deliver to the government must have a license that meets their standards
23:22:03  <rossk>depending on the application
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23:22:15  <rossk>the site we've built @ hearvoisus.com isn't 100% compliant yet
23:22:33  <rossk>but we're getting closer and closer
23:23:40  <mmalecki>rossk: btw, if you guys are looking into quill, baton might be interesting to you too. it integrates tightly with quill, so you can, say, bring up 10 servers at once, make sure that they have all the remote dependencies installed and then configure appropriately
23:24:09  <rossk>but baton is closed, ya?
23:24:22  <mmalecki>rossk: as an example, say you have a balancer which depends on a couchdb. if you tell baton to create a balancer, and couchdb doesn't exist, it'll create one and configure balancer with the new db
23:24:33  <mmalecki>rossk: well, yeah. it's licensed
23:25:04  <rossk>mhmm
23:25:17  <mmalecki>just wondering if you'd be interested in that :-)
23:25:23  <rossk>:D
23:25:35  <mmalecki>since it honestly makes lifes easier
23:25:37  <rossk>depends on if the price is anywhere near enterprise npm
23:25:40  <rossk>:P
23:26:40  <mmalecki>well, we evaluate everything individually, based on your needs so might as well be. wanna get an email thread started?
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23:27:10  <rossk>i'll entertain a discussion
23:27:32  <mmalecki>sure! let me know if you want to see a demo or something :)
23:27:44  <rossk>that'd be good sometime
23:27:58  * mmaleckineeds to clear blood of a laptop, brb
23:28:57  <rossk>mmalecki: let's catch up another day -- I need to check on the contractors at my new place
23:29:06  <mmalecki>not something you hear very often ^
23:29:17  <mmalecki>in other words, waveboarding is scary
23:29:29  <mmalecki>rossk: sure, you have my email address :-)
23:29:51  <mmalecki>and as usual, I'm more than happy to talk about quill and baton - I love talking about my code
23:30:03  <rossk>:D
23:30:09  <rossk>gonna send you an email ping
23:30:22  <mmalecki>it's kind of like kids, except without your FB friends getting annoyed about those constant streams of photos
23:30:54  <mmalecki>rossk: got it :)
23:30:59  <rossk>rgr
23:31:00  <rossk>ttyl
23:31:04  <mmalecki>ttys :)
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