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00:11:14  <indexzero>kenperkins: great
00:11:26  <kenperkins>mostly documentation at this point
00:11:33  <indexzero>FYI I'm going to be in the DigitalOcean offices next friday working on an adapter for their API
00:11:38  <kenperkins>cool
00:12:14  <julianduque>awesome!
00:12:28  <jcrugzz>pkgcloud all the providers
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00:13:14  <kenperkins>indexzero: did you see our blog post today
00:13:31  <indexzero>kenperkins: no
00:13:34  <indexzero>link?
00:14:13  <kenperkins>http://devops.rackspace.com/pkgcloud-update.html
00:15:48  <jcrugzz>kenperkins: the nodejitsu link is broken xD. Otherwise awesome stuff!
00:15:54  <kenperkins>wat
00:15:58  <kenperkins>copyrighter fail
00:16:06  <kenperkins>brb
00:16:43  <kenperkins>apologies
00:18:03  <jcrugzz>kenperkins: no worries
00:18:08  <indexzero>kenperkins: good stuff. https://twitter.com/indexzero/status/335549749581185024
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00:38:50  <rossk>indexzero, have you tried out DigitalOcean's stuff?
00:39:01  <indexzero>rossk: why?
00:39:21  <rossk>just curious -- never heard of them and I'm intrigued
00:39:46  <indexzero>rossk: I haven't actually tried it, but they are also an NYC company and well … nycftw
00:39:52  <rossk>:D
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01:29:11  <doktorJ>greetingz
01:29:29  <julianduque>doktorJ: hello!
01:30:18  <doktorJ>quick question - are you guys still using node 0.8.* and coffee-script 1.3.*?
01:30:43  <julianduque>doktorJ: node 0.8.x, coffee script version is up to you in your package.json
01:30:52  <doktorJ>and is there any estimates on when those will be upgraded?
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01:30:56  <doktorJ>ahh
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01:31:03  <doktorJ>that is sad about 0.8
01:31:28  <julianduque>doktorJ: we are working on 0.10 support but isn't ready yet :)
01:31:50  <doktorJ>i thought 0.10.3 or 4 was stable a while ago..and kindof means i gotta learn/write in outdated tech when new stuff is out/stable
01:31:57  <doktorJ>not bitchin tho you guys are awesome
01:32:36  <julianduque>doktorJ: :)
01:32:45  <julianduque>doktorJ: we are on it, when ready you will now by a blog post :)
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01:33:53  <doktorJ>cool, i'd suggest a google groups post too, glad to know you're on it
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01:38:00  <doktorJ>are people around here generally using sockjs or something better that socket.io? i wanted to learn socket.io but then i heard it only works with a semi-recent browser
01:38:35  <doktorJ>which is pretty standard i guess but not cross platform which i was assuming it kindof was...like tcp or something
01:38:53  <julianduque>doktorJ: we are using engine.io on our webops site
01:38:59  <julianduque>doktorJ: it's better than socket.io
01:39:38  <julianduque>doktorJ: and socket.io it's being rewritten on top of engine.io
01:40:31  <doktorJ>was looking at sockjs today (bonus since it's in coffeescript), but i see it hasn't been updated in a while even tho i'm trying to model how he did the npm basics / best practices with coffeescript.. and it looks good, but i'm not sure its the best to learn from being outdated, and soon to be more outdated
01:41:43  <doktorJ>julian oh ok...the learnboost i guess? is it cross platform with engine.io now? minus browser/long polling?
01:42:13  <doktorJ>sorry for my million questions, so much to keep track of even tho it's fun
01:42:26  <julianduque>doktorJ: they are working on socket.io 1.0 on top of engine.io but no idea when will be published
01:44:30  <doktorJ>ok..so should i just wait for that to learn newbie socket stuff?
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01:45:18  <doktorJ>i don't do well with spending tonnes of time learning a zillion languages dyslexically, then just when i go to make something the next major version/technique comes out
01:46:45  <doktorJ>i really need to find a node/nodejitsu coding budding to learn with/work on smaller open sourcery stuff with... been finding that difficult... same with a sane e-commerce solution like spree
01:46:46  <julianduque>doktorJ: but sometimes that change is minimal
01:46:54  <doktorJ>yea
01:48:19  <doktorJ>and trying to keep track of all the npm min/max changes or techniques is a bit over the top (as awesome as it all is) - same with rails 4 just coming out and alot new, ruby 2, which is slow but i love, and not to mention new npm's / gems coming out almost faster than the twitter firehose
01:48:26  <doktorJ>wish i could speed read :)
01:49:26  <doktorJ>also learning arduino uno stuff (with node + coffee - so fraqin rad it's silly)... and my buddy just got a form lab 1 3d printer to combine all this with
01:49:59  <julianduque>oh that sounds like a lot of fun
01:50:03  <doktorJ>as the bleeding edge tech stack shrinks and grows expodentially at the same time... : )
01:50:56  <doktorJ>i try to get my iphone to read me javascript books at night now.. but man, it sure studders alot when reading code, then wakes me up..anyone know any good book reading apps for techy stuff?
01:51:34  <julianduque>doktorJ: stop reading and begin to code, practice is the key
01:51:51  <julianduque>doktorJ: learn by doing is the way to go :)
01:53:23  <doktorJ>julianandduque (not sure who i'm talking to) glad to hear that, and that i'm just not reading massive amounts of random tech stack books/manuals/frameworks - maybe we could team up on something small sometime .. or maybe consider posting to my new google group to keep track of all this tech called 'quantum nextisms' ~ next level tech and art
01:54:13  <doktorJ>julianduque: i'm doing both yea...i learn way better by doing... + have done like 15 codeschool courses over the last year, but they are kindof behind in their tech stack
01:54:40  <doktorJ>not sure if i want to take their outdated node.js course now or wait for the new ver..anyone know it?
01:55:28  <julianduque>doktorJ: take it, you will learn a lot of stuff, don't be afraid about the outdated
01:55:41  <julianduque>you can move forward :)
01:55:50  <doktorJ>julianduque: here's the 'quantum nextisms' tech stacky community i've been trying to blog about all this to
01:55:56  <doktorJ>https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/106913806412703077421
01:56:03  <doktorJ>please join/post cool stuff
01:56:11  <julianduque>doktorJ: cool
01:56:19  <julianduque>Great images
01:57:22  <doktorJ>3d/cnc manufacturing/programming (esp node stacked), bio-tech, big data, no sql, electronics, linux, art, and stars and stuff
01:58:13  <doktorJ>thanx - i have alot of world class artist friends and get so much amazing art thrown at me too
01:58:25  <doktorJ>not like code isn't art tho...
01:58:35  <doktorJ>sometimes :)
01:59:11  <doktorJ>yea, thanx for encouragement jul
02:00:01  <julianduque>I'm on the community, will take a look at the posts :)
02:00:03  <doktorJ>anyone here know of anyone working on or existing open source e-commerce tech stack that's better than spree?
02:00:23  <doktorJ>spree's ror and way slow of course, but atleast it's ror and has been going a while
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02:02:02  <doktorJ>my artist friend in bali and i have had multi-year plans to come up with a flexible (perhaps more simplistic) e-commerce solution for managing multiple stores, geared towards smaller-globally known artists who can setup their own products fairly easily
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02:02:34  <julianduque>doktorJ: cool!
02:03:33  <doktorJ>since spree 1.3, i've been doing alot of r&d on the best method to do that, and my current best bet is running spree in the background (possibly for multiple artists per spree install) then aggregating them all into a global artist/community ( we have alot of amazing artists interested already )
02:04:20  <julianduque>doktorJ: and you are an artist? what kind of art?
02:05:40  <doktorJ>cuz spree 1.3 redid their restful json api to be usable from product browsing to checkout... but it's been like over 6 months and i havn't seenanyone else that's demonstrated it... i like spree, but i'm a ror newbie for the most part too, and it's too big of a thing for me to do alone i know that...so instead i've beenresearching that project for about a year, and have pretty much narrowed down that its going to be an aggregated restful/json a
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02:06:54  <doktorJ>i did really abstract 2d tripped out stuff for 10 years, then gave it up as i was bored of my style - then media temple janked my domain but i didn't car emuch
02:07:21  <julianduque>cool
02:07:37  <doktorJ>i'm also trying to learn cinema 4d and unity 3d also, to come up with new art style that's not codeing 24/7
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02:08:45  <doktorJ>julianduque: https://secure.flickr.com/photos/lucidelik/ there's still some old stuff on flickr tho
02:09:12  <doktorJ>but alot of the artists i'm involved with are like world class level
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02:09:43  <doktorJ>like luke brown who's site i've helped with for 8 years or so : http://spectraleyes.com and who's also in bali now
02:09:44  <julianduque>doktorJ: very psycodelic, I like it
02:10:03  <doktorJ>and world famous now actually (wasn't when i first met him)
02:11:03  <julianduque>I like the concept
02:11:03  <doktorJ>julianduque: well if you're into the visionary style, that's alot of the type of artists we have interested...including the living grandaddy of visionary art ( in my mind - alex grey )
02:11:38  <julianduque>sacred geometry, psychodelia, i like it :)
02:11:41  <doktorJ>http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/alexgreycosm/entheon-the-alex-grey-visionary-art-experience?ref=live they're about to make their kick starter round
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02:13:04  <julianduque>doktorJ: I really like this style, thanks for sharing, some images are like an ayahuasca vision
02:13:11  <doktorJ>and my 3d printer/3d visionary amazing artist friend mark lee helped him with the 3d brass coins they are giving out on kick starter, plus he helped do the 3d design of the new "entheon" building to display his amazing 13+ huge painting series called the sacred mirrors, which is what the kickstarter is for
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02:13:49  <doktorJ>mark helped ryan thottle from disney (working close with alex grey) do the 3d building design
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02:14:19  <doktorJ>i've been to their new 10 acre lot just outside new york and it's totally epic already
02:14:36  <doktorJ>plus i got to see tipper play live there, at same time who's one of my fav audio artists
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02:14:59  <doktorJ>too much awesome really
02:15:24  <doktorJ>julianduque: see http://cosm.org to see his main art site
02:15:31  <julianduque>doktorJ: I was seeing that
02:15:52  <doktorJ>it's really intense art, but some of the most fascinating/thought provoking stuff i've found so far
02:18:31  <doktorJ>julianduque: you have any interest in helping out on any level (or know of anyone else perhaps) to assist mark lee and me manifest whatever it takes to get this uporium (aka: motherstore / global artists community ?) as open sourced, and probably as much nodeness as possible/practical
02:19:04  <doktorJ>biggypacking on a cached version of multiple spree api back ends..
02:19:13  <doktorJ>if i don't find something better
02:19:51  <doktorJ>we have the domains all setup up, and i'm slowly getting together a tech spec for it, the taking it to github...
02:20:51  <doktorJ>i spent all day yesterday researching how to kickstart it up faster and get more help/still open source... but then i found out that you' can't do e-commerce stuff on kickstarter.com ? so silly
02:21:47  <doktorJ>i was pretty stoked on that idea..so instead i'm just continuing with an initial proof of cocept myself in 3 parts/phases/sprints to start
02:22:09  <doktorJ>and doing the best tech spec i can as a newbie mostly
02:23:01  <doktorJ>havn''t found any other coders that are interested in that type of art/scale
02:24:40  <doktorJ>except we have a small team in india who has their own custom spree version we're using for now...which is ahuge help, but their project is not open source and they can't expand as fast as we need (theres a huge demand to get a workign version out there)
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02:28:47  <doktorJ>i work with mark lee almost daily on planning this... and he's awesome at graphix/design/3d ( for ex: https://gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/8019B6/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3kr4rLIWJ1qih6j1o1_500.jpg )
02:30:03  <doktorJ>so we really need a pro html5/css3 and or haml/sass or something practical designer to takes marks' awesome web graphix design and translate into valid html5 and or whatever templating engine we decide on
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02:30:45  <julianduque>doktorJ: good frontend engineers are hard to find
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02:31:38  <julianduque>doktorJ: I can't help, I'm very busy right now with Nodejitsu and my personal projects
02:31:57  <doktorJ>i like haml/sass from seeing it's niceness when doing http://dreamcatcher.net ( online dream/vision sharing diary )... but that was for Ror3.1 - not sure what to use yet in node stack...maybe jade/hamljs/coffeecup or just bootstrap stuff to start...but still neither mark or me are web designers
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02:32:06  <julianduque>doktorJ: start with a repo in github and use something like http://contribhub.co/ to promote your repo
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02:33:21  <doktorJ>julianduque: i figured that's the typical response i'd get in a channel like this... you're the first that's show interest in artsty kindof projects tho. and i'm sure you are busy if you work for nodejitsu... what's your position?
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02:33:40  <julianduque>I'm Support Enginner
02:34:03  <julianduque>Engineer*
02:34:56  <doktorJ>julianduque: i've been delaying putting anything on github till i have the basic suggested tech stack and first 3 phase/sprint spec ready to share.. so it's clearer for people to grasp the larger vision, and not just give in and do it all in frackin wordpress or something wrong
02:34:57  <julianduque>bbl, food time
02:35:09  <doktorJ>i'll check out http://contribhub.co/ tho...cool havn't heard of that
02:35:30  <doktorJ>nice to meet you! thanx for your advice/wisdom
02:35:36  <doktorJ>see you around
02:36:27  <doktorJ>http://iasos.com/artists/alexgrey/Theologue-3.jpg
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02:46:11  <doktorJ>anyone else interested in teaming up with a coding buddy for learning/prototyping some interesting open source stuff - ideally node stacked maybe some ror restful json apis/spree-commerce product caching/aggregation on large scale after the prototype? all open source.. please msg or email me if so - doktorj@gmail.com
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08:42:12  <miscible>anyone here with experience with custom domains?
08:44:23  <yawnt>hey what's up?
08:45:41  <miscible>With an app hosted on Jitsu with a custom domain, what happens to email to that domain?
08:46:34  <yawnt>nothing, it's another part
08:46:49  <yawnt>if you want to handle emails, you have to signup to a service that does that, like google apps for instance
08:46:58  <yawnt>we only handle the http(s) part :)
08:48:00  <miscible>That's what I figured. The domain is currently pointing to a hosting service ... do I just have to be careful which DNS records point to what? (and, thanks for answering so late, BTW :)
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08:48:24  <yawnt>oh it's early here
08:48:27  <yawnt>i'm italian :D
08:48:29  <miscible>OIC
08:49:00  <yawnt>for example i have a domain on namecheap
08:49:09  <yawnt>i got email redirect setup for the domain
08:49:17  <yawnt>and then the DNS records pointing to jitsu
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08:51:07  <miscible>Usually, when I point a domain somewhere, I update the nameservers and everything follows ... this sounds like something slightly different
08:51:15  <miscible>?
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08:53:21  <yawnt>yeah but you gotta setup a mail server
08:53:23  <yawnt>for the mail part
08:53:27  <yawnt>so that's another setting
08:53:31  <yawnt>we don't handle mails
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08:56:31  <miscible>I think I have it. I already have my email going somewhere so I should be OK. Thanks! :)
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16:21:28  <Guest21654>Hello, i have a question, in personal package when you say "one drone for all apps" you mean n apps in one drone or one drone for each app?
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18:08:54  <nodejitsu-github>[system.json] mmalecki pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/gjtUxw
18:08:54  <nodejitsu-github>system.json/master cbcf161 Maciej Małecki: [minor] Do not copy objects when not needed
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18:09:58  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/opsmezzo/system.json/compare/f16942761ab1...cbcf1618b703
18:09:58  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/opsmezzo/system.json/builds/7282478
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18:12:09  <cronopio>kenperkins: morning :)
18:12:17  <cronopio>kenperkins: just about to publish pkgcloud
18:13:30  <cronopio>kenperkins: but I saw that master got 3 commits in advance, that commits are for 0.7.4?
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18:26:16  <cronopio>kenperkins: I'll publish the v0.7.3 tag
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19:05:30  <kenperkins>cronopio: did I tag v0.7.3 incorrectly?
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19:49:36  <Kseptor>Hey guys, i have a problem with uploading files to nodejitsu. Locally, everything works just fine. Anyone can help?
19:50:02  <Nnubes256>What error shows?
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19:51:32  <Kseptor>No error. Nothing happens. Even the progress event listener doesn't show any progress.
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19:54:29  <Nnubes256>Do you have any output at least?
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20:08:21  <SpencerC>I'm getting an error when I try to downgrade: Unable to process new product subscription
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20:14:09  <indexzero>chjj: yt? SpencerC is having a billing issue
20:26:05  <chjj>indexzero: yeah, lookin into it
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20:26:15  <indexzero>thanks chjj
20:29:06  <chjj>SpencerC: what plan are you trying to downgrade to?
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20:33:52  <SpencerC>The one with three drones.
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20:41:16  <chjj>SpencerC: i downgraded you by hand. let me know if there's any other problems.
20:41:56  <SpencerC>Thanks.
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20:42:28  <chjj>SpencerC: also, are you certain your billing info is still valid? that would be one possible cause of this.
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20:56:41  <SpencerC>It wasn't. I fixed it.
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