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00:18:08  <Nodejitsu-Github>[haibu] julianduque created autostart-filename-fix (+1 new commit): http://git.io/tUN27A
00:18:08  <Nodejitsu-Github>haibu/autostart-filename-fix ae5c15f Julian Duque: [fix] don't start with -, this causes some issues on *nix fs
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00:36:40  <jaridmar_>set up mongolab through jitsu
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00:36:55  <jaridmar_>is there a way I can login to mongolab?
00:37:30  <julianduque>jaridmar_: with mongo cli
00:38:22  <jaridmar_>ok
00:38:34  <jaridmar_>mongo connstr ?
00:39:52  <julianduque>jaridmar_: $ mongo dsXXX.mongolab.com:59887/nodejitsu_user_dbname -u nodejitsu_user -p pass
00:40:14  <jaridmar_>thanks
00:41:05  <julianduque>:)
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00:48:34  <jaridmar_>> show dbs
00:48:46  <jaridmar_>uncaught exception: listDatabases failed:{ "errmsg" : "need to login", "ok" : 0 }
00:49:09  <julianduque>you can't list dbs
00:49:20  <julianduque>you only have access to 1, so, list collections
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00:53:24  <jaridmar_>got me up and running. thanks!
00:53:44  <julianduque>awesome!
00:53:51  <jaridmar_>*front end guy... trying my best :)
00:54:45  <julianduque>I know that feeling when I try to do frontend :p
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02:38:41  <paulcsmith>Hi there. I have a node app hosted at http://red_snapper.jit.su/ and so far it's running great except that file uploads are throwing an error
02:38:44  <paulcsmith>Error: ENOENT, open 'tmp/e1e7cfba81862489d6ae61861867326f'
02:39:00  <paulcsmith>Yet the app works fine in development. Let me know if you need me to paste code to a private gist
02:39:57  <paulcsmith>Also nodejistu throws the error 502 socket hang up
02:40:12  <julianduque>paulcsmith: you need to create the tmp folder
02:40:21  <julianduque>paulcsmith: where are you seeing that error?
02:40:52  <paulcsmith>the 502 errors shows up in the browser after submitting the form. I thought the tmp folder was checked in but I guess not. I'll try that out!
02:41:43  <julianduque>paulcsmith: remember that file storage in nodejitsu is temporary, isn't persisted across deployments
02:41:52  <julianduque>paulcsmith: and be sure to create the tmp folder before deploy
02:42:25  <paulcsmith>Ohh I didn't realize that.
02:43:09  <paulcsmith>Trying to redeploy now. So I'll also probably have to switch to s3 or something then? Or is there some kind of permanent storage on node jitsu?
02:43:26  <julianduque>paulcsmith: not yet, but yes you need s3 or cloudfiles
02:44:15  <paulcsmith>Thanks for pointing out the tmp folder issue. That fixed it. Didn't realize it wasn't checked in to the repo.
02:44:24  <paulcsmith>Thanks for the help!
02:46:33  <julianduque>paulcsmith: awesome :D
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05:33:21  <jesusabdullah>mmalecki: yawnt nathan7 sup dawgs
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05:45:59  <kenperkins>havn't seen you online much jesusabdullah
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05:57:40  <doktorj999>greetingz - can anyone tell me what the latest version of node is on the individual/shared cloud account? 0.8x only? if so, will 0.10.x be available soon?
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07:16:22  <nathan7>jesusabdullah: me, sort of
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07:32:19  <jesusabdullah>kenperkins: I'm always online sometimes you just gotta jinglejangle
07:32:30  <jesusabdullah>nathan7: what up
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07:39:34  <nathan7>jesusabdullah: Getting ready for school and stuff
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07:49:31  <standoo>nathan7: you still go to school?
07:49:51  <jesusabdullah>oh boy shcool
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07:51:50  <nathan7>standoo: Yar
07:53:54  <standoo>and if not's school? you're here?
07:54:59  <nathan7>standoo: I'm either at school, behind my computer, or both.
07:55:59  <standoo>hmmm
07:56:08  <standoo>cool
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08:18:17  <jamesmorris>Hey. I'm trying to find the optimal and most efficient way to serve a static website on Nodejitsu. Does anyone have any code for this?
08:24:54  <jesusabdullah>jamesmorris: either connect's built-in static fileserving middleware or https://github.com/jesusabdullah/node-ecstatic your choice
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08:29:05  <jamesmorris>Thank you.
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09:11:12  <fab_>Hi need support, one of my drone is down and I can't rescue it
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09:13:33  <fab_>I had to move the drone from Europe to Virginia
09:15:00  <fab_>can someone tell me what happened to London data center? Is there a status web page I can use to monitor the data center status? I would hope the drone would deploy automatically to another data center when the primary is down
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09:19:00  <nathan7>fab_: Yo
09:19:32  <nathan7>fab_: What problems are you experiencing?
09:21:53  <fab_>the homepage http://bizzby.jit.su/ shows 502
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09:30:47  <nathan7>fab_: back up, I got London back up too, trying to move it back there
09:30:55  <nathan7>hm
09:30:59  <nathan7>London needs some work it seems
09:31:37  <fab_>I opened a ticket #13101
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09:33:02  <nathan7>Yep
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09:46:11  <fschell>we have an urgent problem with the nodejitsu ssl certicicate, firefox dont trust them because unknown_issuer
09:46:40  <fschell>did you user a self generated certificate?
09:51:35  <fab_>If that was a question for me... no
09:53:02  <fschell>hi fab, are you from the node jitsu support team?
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09:55:36  <fschell>has anybody had have problems with the nodejitsu ssl certificate in firefox? I ve build a Facebook App which runs fine in all Browsers except some firefox browsers (maybe behind proxies),
09:56:32  <fschell>firefox says ist is a untrusted connection because of an unknown issuer
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10:07:22  <erick>hi
10:07:30  <erick>does nodejitsu support node 0.10.x
10:07:31  <erick>?
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10:07:53  <Guest79044>hi, does nodejitsu support node 0.10.x?
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10:14:20  <ankit_>hi
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10:16:34  <ankit_>hello
10:16:45  <ankit_>anyone is there to assist
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10:23:15  <Swaagie>Guest79044, hey there no not yet, still some bugs in .10 that need fixing before we change our architecture
10:23:28  <Swaagie>ankit_, hey there, what can I help you with?
10:24:15  <Hounddog>i am trying out haibu again... now node cannot even find haibu to start it up
10:24:43  <Hounddog>it seems to be searching for haibu locally when it is installed globally
10:26:22  <Hounddog>hmm just running haibu worked
10:27:25  <Hounddog>but somehow unsure how to span an app...
10:28:14  <Swaagie>Hounddog, not sure if that is a haibu problem, are paths set correctly so node can pickup on the global install?
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10:28:45  <Hounddog>Swaagie: "node bin/haibu" was saying not found "haibu" works
10:28:46  <simppafi>Hi when trying to deploy I get "error: No free servers available.
10:28:54  <Hounddog>so i al clear on that one now
10:29:49  <Hounddog>Swaagie: but maybee you can clear some of my confusion here
10:29:54  <simppafi>and when trying to reduce the number of drones I get the same error message
10:30:24  <Swaagie>simppafi, just cleared some orphans could you retry
10:30:35  <Swaagie>only 3 left while you where trying
10:30:41  <Hounddog>there is the hellospawn example... i just place that file in any path where i want it to be deployed?
10:31:13  <simppafi>trying to deploy...
10:31:18  <simppafi>nope not OK
10:31:19  <Swaagie>Hounddog, haven't worked enough with haibu to know all in and outs yet, but I'm gonna try what your doing
10:31:39  <Hounddog>Swaagie: just trying to get the example running but the docs confuse me a little
10:31:48  <Swaagie>simppafi, what size are your trying to deploy to? 256 or 512mb?
10:31:53  <Hounddog>like where is it deploying in which path etc
10:32:03  <simppafi>hmm how can I check that?
10:32:14  <simppafi>I have the 5 drones plan
10:32:26  <Swaagie>simppafi, in that case its probably 256, but could you provide me with your username/appname pleasE?
10:32:52  <simppafi>simppafi/apexvjcontrol
10:33:57  <simppafi>my plan is to go back to 1 drone for now since the redis doesn't seems to be too stable or I'm doing it wrong
10:34:11  <simppafi>and ditch the redis for now
10:34:13  <Hounddog>and yeah i think my paths are mesed somehow
10:34:14  <Swaagie>simppafi, 5x 256mb on us-east, could you retry one last time? as it might take a moment for our conservatory to pick up on the freed orphans
10:35:33  <simppafi>got the 500 so guess there's something happening
10:35:36  <simppafi>will try again
10:36:01  <simppafi>not OK :(
10:36:02  <Swaagie>simppafi, could you gist me to complete error output of jitsu?
10:36:12  <Swaagie>if it is anythign other than no free servers
10:36:27  <simppafi>I got the same no free servers again
10:36:37  <simppafi>sho
10:37:02  <simppafi>will try again in a bit
10:37:04  <Swaagie>kk, escalating this, sec
10:37:36  <Swaagie>on your redis comment, not sure how redis would be more unstable on multiple drones, then again I don't know your implementation
10:37:54  <simppafi>yeah the plan is not to use redis at all for now
10:38:09  <simppafi>I will retry that again when got more time
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10:39:22  <simppafi>I'll use shared object on one drone. it worked perfectly earlier. that's just not scalable approach
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10:41:32  <Hounddog>hmmm dont understand why reauire would not find haibu globally just checked the nodepath and it points to the right path for the modules
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10:46:11  <Hounddog>getting this error now http://pastebin.com/Yys1megT
10:46:30  <aykutyaman>hello, I'm trying to update my credit card info, but panel gives me this error: Processor declined Declined (2046)
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10:53:12  <Hounddog>hmmm
10:55:41  <Hounddog>that error i am getting seems to be haibu specific... not sure though
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11:03:03  <Hounddog>Swaagie: did you get to try out? i am kinda stuck here :(
11:04:19  <Swaagie>Hounddog, related to your error gist is that directory local/marak/test actually there?
11:04:33  <Hounddog>nope, is not there also
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11:06:34  <Swaagie>trying hello-spawn as well atm
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11:07:08  <Hounddog>Swaagie: and i dont think i am supposed to create the paths manually under the node_modules.
11:08:02  <Hounddog>Swaagie: rhx, il just grab another coffe
11:08:14  <Swaagie>Hounddog, true, is the directory writable?
11:09:17  <Swaagie>I just cloned haibu to $HOME, npm installed and ran node hello-spawn.js as well, seems to run without errors
11:09:46  <Swaagie>if you sudo-ed haibu to install it globally, it might need sudo node hello-spawn.js as well
11:10:37  <Hounddog>i did sudo but then sudoing to start this, il paste
11:10:56  <Hounddog>Error: Cannot find module 'haibu'
11:11:06  <Hounddog>which zould meqn it is not found as sudo
11:11:56  <Hounddog>but running sudo echo $NODE_PATH gives me the correct paths
11:12:01  <Swaagie>hmm
11:12:11  <Swaagie>let me try that as well
11:13:05  <Hounddog>you had the same error when running the example as user?
11:13:10  <Swaagie>nah
11:13:15  <Swaagie>ran fine as normal user
11:13:19  <Hounddog>hum
11:13:27  <Hounddog>installed haibu as sudo?
11:13:34  <Swaagie>nope just locally
11:13:50  <Hounddog>ok
11:14:11  <Hounddog>but i guess on server haibu should be globally instaled
11:14:26  <Swaagie>not sure
11:14:44  <Swaagie>it utilizes non-root port 9002
11:15:02  <Hounddog>but would mean i have to install haibu for every project also
11:15:08  <Hounddog>locally i mean
11:15:26  <Swaagie>nah
11:15:36  <Hounddog>hmm?
11:15:52  <Swaagie>atleast I just ran bin/haibu and did node example/hello-spawn.js
11:16:01  <Swaagie>second in another terminal
11:17:48  <Hounddog>something is seriously wrong here
11:18:47  <Hounddog>just starting from scratch... removed everything
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11:20:31  <Hounddog>installed locally via "npm install haibu"
11:21:40  <Hounddog>http://pastebin.com/NqgH9Wqf
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11:22:27  <Swaagie>Hounddog, thats locally as part of a project?
11:22:43  <Hounddog>currently just an empty folder
11:23:00  <Hounddog>now with haibu in it
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11:23:38  <Hounddog>anyway, seems not to be my day to play around with stuff
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11:25:41  <Swaagie>Hounddog, try node `node node_modules/.bin/haibu`
11:25:49  <Swaagie>-node outside the ticks :P
11:28:23  <Hounddog>got haibu running but still the same with the example
11:28:59  <Hounddog>Swaagie: http://pastebin.com/rzc8xYN6
11:29:11  <Hounddog>does the nodejs version matter?
11:29:42  <Hounddog>running v0.10.4
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11:34:43  <Swaagie>Hounddog, ye could be as we don't support .10 yet
11:34:57  <Swaagie>due to crypto slowness and others
11:35:29  <Swaagie>im running .8 still
11:36:04  <Hounddog>hmmm ok
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11:52:23  <Hounddog>time for me to give up on this one... going to check out others...
11:52:38  <Swaagie>others?
11:52:58  <Hounddog>something where i can span apps... not sure what to use
11:53:13  <Hounddog>am just getting frustrated right now :(
11:54:26  <Swaagie>kk shame it didn't work out for you, hope you succeed with something else
11:55:37  <Hounddog>its rather a shame that i have to install this on ec2 instad of using nodejitsu directly...
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12:00:29  <Swaagie>Hounddog, why is that?
12:00:52  <Hounddog>the project i am doing they want it on ec2
12:00:57  <Swaagie>ah kk
12:01:40  <Hounddog>thats why haibu looked most promising for this
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12:03:03  <Hounddog>just cecking once more with 0.8.0
12:03:38  <Hounddog>Swaagie: and thx a lot for your help also :)
12:03:57  <Swaagie>Hounddog, your welcome, shame we couldn't get it to work
12:04:17  <Hounddog>as said i am just checking with older node version lets see
12:04:22  <Hounddog>just installed nvm
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12:04:50  <Hounddog>just that i loose patience too fast at times :p
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12:13:21  <Hounddog>Swaagie: might be advisable also to write that in the readme which nodejs version is prefered
12:14:40  <Hounddog>anyway, i will see soon if the version is the problem
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12:14:54  <Swaagie>Hounddog, ye good point
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12:15:33  <Hounddog>just saying that others might also fall in this trap otherwise
12:18:11  <Swaagie>ye, can you confirm it is the version though?
12:19:05  <Hounddog>Swaagie: not yet, still installing 8
12:21:28  <Hounddog>now... lets see
12:25:56  <Hounddog>Swaagie: now i can confirm
12:26:12  <Hounddog>Successfully spawned app:
12:26:22  <Hounddog>running v0.8.0
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12:28:42  <Swaagie>Hounddog, great
12:28:53  <Swaagie>expect us soon to upgrade to .10 btw
12:29:02  <Swaagie>it some minor bugs that keep us from
12:29:03  <Hounddog>so 0.10 is a no go currently
12:29:28  <Hounddog>well just update the readme with the dependency and that should do it for now
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12:29:40  <Hounddog>i can confirm 10.5 and 10.4 do not work
12:29:59  <Swaagie>will do, or if you'd like you could submit a pull request
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12:30:22  <Hounddog>i could... let me write that on to my endless list :p
12:30:35  <Swaagie>hehe
12:31:15  <Hounddog>doing open source is great but you have a never ending todo list hehe
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12:35:07  <Swaagie>:)
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12:35:42  <Swaagie>i'd like to see a graph of OS contributers vs issue/pr's as well
12:35:50  <Swaagie>against time that is
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12:37:22  <Hounddog>yeah
12:38:10  <Hounddog>now i need to wrap my head around this how i can utilize this nifty little piece of software
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12:49:02  <standoo>OS?
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13:41:58  <littleark>No free servers available.
13:42:03  <littleark>on my account
13:42:07  <littleark>when I try to deploy
13:42:24  <littleark>how's that happening?
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13:47:09  <littleark>error: No free servers available. Please visit #nodejitsu on irc.freenode.net or email support@nodejitsu.com for further information.
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13:48:30  <Swaagie>littleark, wamoyo hey there, sec please working on it
13:48:37  <Swaagie>thanks for reporting
13:49:00  <wamoyo>Cool : )
13:49:09  <Swaagie>littleark, wamoyo could you try again please?
13:49:20  <Swaagie>restarted a piece of our architecture
13:50:59  <wamoyo>Swaagie: Perfect!
13:51:18  <Swaagie>wamoyo, great! happy coding
13:51:29  <littleark>it's working. thanks
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13:51:38  <Swaagie>littleark, your welcome
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14:36:30  <kenperkins>did indexzero get the dates wrong on his blog post? wasn't it in April? http://blog.nodejitsu.com/improved-load-balancing
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14:42:22  <ale______>hey guys, quick question did anyone experience weird behaviour while deploying today?
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14:43:19  <ale______>I deployed a version an hour ago, but for some reason I was getting some other dudes code.. (im not drunk, havent smoked anything & I'm positive I was in the right directory)
14:44:59  <nathan7>oi
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14:49:14  <ale______>yeah that's what i said, no one else had any problem like that right?
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14:53:30  <drJ999>hello - i'm new to nodejitsu and am just wondering if anyone knows when node 1.0.x will be usable on the shared individual service?
14:53:38  <nathan7>1.0.x doesn't exist yet
14:53:46  <drJ999>oh
14:53:52  <nathan7>0.10.x is there, and it's not very stable yet
14:53:59  <nathan7>but yeah, support is coming
14:54:06  <drJ999>i mean v0.10.4
14:54:24  <drJ999>ok cool
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14:55:48  <nathan7>ale______: user/ppname?
14:56:09  <drJ999>so in the mean time should i just not bother trying to backtrack and start learning node stuff in 0.8.x and wait till 0.10.x is stable/supported? i'll need express3 and coffeescript 1.6 in there too, so i don't want to waste time learning versions of stuff if it will soon be upgraded is all..
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14:56:49  <nathan7>Express is not node core, CoffeeScript is not node core
14:56:55  <nathan7>I'm not sure our CoffeeScript is at 1.6 though
14:57:10  <ale______>nathan7: streethub/streethub - i switched to snapshot 0.0.1-85, the problematic snapshot was 0.0.1-86
14:57:26  <kenperkins>pretty sure express and coffee are both fully 0.8 and 0.10 compatible
14:57:31  <nathan7>Yep
14:57:38  <nathan7>Coffee does little node-y stuff
14:58:33  <drJ999>nathan: yea i know they're not node core, but i just wanna make sure whatever versions of stuff i'm learning/prototyping on will work with the new node when released
14:59:19  <drJ999>ken: yea i thought express 3+ required 0.10.x but could be wrong on that
14:59:59  <nathan7>express 3 came out ages ago
15:00:06  <nathan7>like, last summer
15:01:49  <nathan7>so I highly doubt it
15:02:12  <drJ999>oh...good to know ( newbie i am ) - thanx for the info guys, appreciaited.
15:02:57  <nathan7>It's odd to imagine that I really wasn't a node person until like last summer
15:04:37  <nathan7>hmm, okay, last spring
15:04:46  <nathan7>a year ago
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15:16:52  <drJ999>i just like to be lazy i guess and call: coffee server.coffee which just pipes the js into node i think...then i can avoid having duplicate coffee/js files around until a 1.0 launch maybe - + i am very fond of coffee-script and the ashkenas meme's : )
15:17:11  <drJ999>do many people use coffeescript here?
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15:17:41  <nathan7>drJ999: Not really
15:17:53  <drJ999>aww
15:17:55  <nathan7>Personally, I consider CoffeeScript an interesting toy
15:18:00  <drJ999>oh well
15:18:00  <kenperkins>nathan7++
15:18:13  <nathan7>It's a source of much-needed debate on syntax
15:18:39  <nathan7>I've been playing with Coco, which is CoffeeScript-derived
15:18:54  <drJ999>i consider it a tool enhancement, that saves me time, and shui's up my code and brain a bit
15:19:14  <nathan7>but I do it more for the playing with language than for writing serious code
15:19:15  <drJ999>oh yea? how are you liking coco?
15:19:34  <nathan7>Sometimes I write something twice, once in plain JS, once in something CoffeeScripty
15:19:53  <nathan7>often writing something differently forces thought
15:20:40  <nathan7>then I rewrite the CoffeeScript to JS (I know exactly the semantics I want - they're not that far from each other, the compiler-generated JS is much farther from what I'd write)
15:21:24  <drJ999>i dunno, maybe when it's called for, but now after using coffee-script for a year or 2, looking at js code and all it's ; } )'s everywhere and generally un-shuiness, it rubs my fur the wrong way - even tho i know i'm still a newbie saying that
15:22:00  <nathan7>I don't think curly braces are ugly, but that's a matter of taste
15:22:03  <nathan7>I carefully consider syntax
15:22:07  <nathan7>and whitespace
15:22:45  <kenperkins>nathan7: couldn't agree more
15:23:09  <drJ999>well i never used to either, back before i ditched php for ruby on rails i guess ... and started playing with coffeescript then
15:23:32  <nathan7>I come from Python
15:23:41  <drJ999>if you carefully consider whitespace? why use all the ; ) } ?
15:23:44  <nathan7>before that, Perl, and even further before that PHP
15:23:55  <drJ999>ahh i come from perl originally
15:24:12  <drJ999>interesting...wow that like 13 years ago, must be getting old now
15:24:25  <nathan7>That's.. over half my lifetime.
15:24:45  <nathan7>Over three quarters, actually.
15:24:57  <drJ999>well i wasn't using it all that time, that's just the first web scripting language i learned on
15:25:26  <drJ999>larry wall must really be old then
15:25:39  <drJ999>: )
15:25:44  <nathan7>He's 58
15:26:37  <drJ999>i miss perl actually... but compared ruby i miss is less
15:26:52  <drJ999>i guess i compare everything to ruby/rails and coffeescript now
15:26:57  <drJ999>shouldn't do that : )
15:27:10  <yawnt>ruby is perl made better
15:27:20  <drJ999>i feel that
15:27:26  <nathan7>Ruby drives me mad, it feels like Java with everything-OO-even-if-it-isn't-a-good-fit
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15:27:39  <nathan7>except Java still has sane scoping (other people can't fuck with your scope)
15:27:45  <drJ999>ruby's like a mishmash of many of the good parts of good languages in one... love it.
15:27:48  <yawnt>nathan7: it's more OO than java
15:27:58  <yawnt>java is more like python in that sense
15:28:19  <yawnt>nathan7: what's wrong with ruby's scope?
15:28:26  <nathan7>yawnt: other people can stick shit into your scope
15:28:38  <nathan7>Qualified imports, humans.
15:28:53  <drJ999>never liked java syntax - i would have probably learned python if i didn't find ruby
15:28:55  <yawnt>you mean like for DSLs?
15:28:58  <nathan7>Yeah
15:29:08  <yawnt>nah dude that's awesomesauce
15:29:10  <nathan7>I don't mind the DSLs, I mind the scope hackery
15:29:30  <nathan7>I'm fine with importing all the same stuff into my scope
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15:31:45  <drJ999>scope is another reason i like coffeescript - i forget to put a 'var' too often, and although i shouldn't forget, i know coffee just takes care of all that amongst other many handy things, which use less code
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15:32:23  <nathan7>variable scoping is important
15:32:30  <drJ999>plus i just got my new arduino uno microcontroller board working with node/coffee - funtastikal
15:32:43  <nathan7>but is often more complex than "in the current scope"
15:33:10  <drJ999>so use => instead of ->
15:33:25  <nathan7>oh god
15:33:27  <drJ999>and if you mean the true global, there's ways around that i think
15:34:05  <nathan7>=> fucks with scoping?
15:34:14  <nathan7>I thought it just did bound this
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15:34:31  <nathan7>no, it doesn't fuck with scoping
15:34:39  <drJ999>that's what i meant
15:35:00  <nathan7>ES6 is bringing => to plain JS
15:35:18  <nathan7>I tend to do function() { /* ... */ }.bind(this)
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15:36:04  <nathan7>however, I have to run
15:36:07  <nathan7>because AMSTERDAMJS
15:36:14  <nathan7>well, I have to cycle
15:36:14  <nathan7>->
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15:42:52  <mcarter>jitsu having troubles this morning? https://webops.nodejitsu.com/apps > Nodejitsu Error (500): Internal Server Error
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15:49:40  <yawnt>mcarter: hey, looks up here
15:49:48  <yawnt>are you still seeing it?
15:49:56  <mcarter>let me refresh
15:50:11  <mcarter>its good now
15:50:27  <yawnt>:)
15:51:10  <mcarter>thank ya :)
15:51:49  <yawnt>you're welcome
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17:08:13  <Oliver__>Hi there, question: How can I force my SSL usage for my simple node server?
17:09:02  <jcrugzz>Oliver__: let me grab the link for you
17:09:40  <jcrugzz>https://www.nodejitsu.com/documentation/a-quickstart/faq/#how-do-i-force-my-clients-to-use-https-with-my-application
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17:10:26  <Oliver__>Ah ha, in the faq....
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17:17:27  <Oliver__>Actually, that's not super clear - can I just use `if (req.headers['x-forwarded-proto'] !== 'https') {` as a conditional within a route statement for app.*?
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17:31:29  <jcrugzz>Oliver__: its done as a middleware because you want to do that on every route correct?
17:32:30  <Oliver__>Yes, so I already have middleware for authentication, might as well put it in there
17:32:48  <jcrugzz>Oliver__: yea that should work then.
17:33:22  <jcrugzz>I would just do it before the auth
17:33:33  <Oliver__>However...thinking about that - I have public and private pages but I want all pages to be served over https so ... OK, but anyway, the principle is the same, I can do this via routes not as part of server def
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17:37:37  <jcrugzz>Oliver__: yea like in the express example just do it in an app.use() which makes it inherently middleware
17:38:36  <kenperkins>indexzero: I spun up a ubuntu 12.04 box, tests are also 100% there
17:38:39  <kenperkins>:S
17:38:48  <indexzero>hmm
17:39:50  <Oliver__>Sorry, another question: so is this ignored for localhost?
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17:43:30  <jcrugzz>Oliver__: im not exactly sure how it behaves on localhost. give it a test
17:43:54  <indexzero>kenperkins: let me try running them again
17:43:59  <indexzero>see if it's non-deterministic on my box
17:44:02  <indexzero>I only tried once
17:44:09  * kenperkinshopes you get the exact same results :D
17:44:37  <indexzero>kenperkins: yup
17:44:38  <indexzero>same results
17:44:42  <kenperkins>os/etc?
17:44:44  <kenperkins>node v?
17:45:02  <indexzero>darwin, node@0.8.22, npm@1.2.14
17:45:13  <indexzero>I'm also against nodejitsu#master with your PR merged in
17:45:15  <indexzero>no cherry-picks
17:45:20  <indexzero>it FFed clean this time
17:45:31  <kenperkins>well I squashed commits too
17:45:34  <Oliver__>Did, it worked but then actually my issue is making it work on the server so the fact it works locally doesn't tell me much
17:45:35  <kenperkins>(you didn't reply to my email)
17:46:14  <Oliver__>It's at times like this you learn the benefits of a proper test env...
17:46:15  <indexzero>yeah, it's hard to say, I loathe merge commits, so squashing is probably better
17:46:26  <kenperkins>I do as well (hadn't been using rebase by accident)
17:46:39  <indexzero>honestly you keep up this level of work and I'll just add you as a collab :)
17:46:52  <kenperkins>when I was at clipboard (last time I setup a git config) I did rebase as default for pull
17:46:59  <kenperkins>I should just be more explicit and fetch/rebase
17:47:03  <kenperkins>in lieu of pull
17:47:05  <jcrugzz>Olver__: you shouldnt have an issue. A lot of people I've seen jsut setup a staging env using https://npmjs.org/package/penv
17:47:24  * indexzerohad nock@0.13.x for some reason
17:47:36  <indexzero>so I'm running npm update now
17:47:38  <kenperkins>odd, did you flush it and reinstall?
17:47:40  <kenperkins>good
17:47:42  <indexzero>could just be outdated dependency
17:47:46  <kenperkins>let's hope
17:48:03  <indexzero>no, that's the version of nock in the package.json
17:48:07  <indexzero>but I had an older version of request
17:48:17  <kenperkins>ah
17:48:46  <indexzero>yup
17:48:47  <indexzero>that did it
17:49:04  <indexzero>I was still on request@2.12.0
17:49:07  <indexzero>now I'm on 2.20.0
17:49:10  <indexzero>and everything works
17:49:16  <indexzero>I'm going to bump that in package.json
17:49:20  <indexzero>and merge that in
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17:50:46  <kenperkins>good idea
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17:51:14  <kenperkins>speaking of that, I really need to read up on shrinkwrap
17:51:17  <indexzero>damn
17:51:22  <indexzero>definitely non-deterministic
17:51:27  <kenperkins>just failed again?
17:51:30  <indexzero>but not convinced it's your code's fault
17:51:31  <indexzero>yup
17:51:32  <kenperkins>which one?
17:51:35  <indexzero>same set
17:51:39  <kenperkins>...
17:51:40  <indexzero>plus the one the randomly fails on travis
17:51:54  <kenperkins>did you blow away node_modules and start fresh?
17:52:08  <kenperkins>(Sad that we'd have to do that, but worth testing)
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17:52:26  <indexzero>sure, I can try that
17:53:52  <indexzero>https://gist.github.com/indexzero/5454095
17:53:54  <indexzero>still failing
17:54:19  <indexzero>but now it appears to be consistently failing
17:54:23  <indexzero>once I bumped nock to 0.17.x
17:54:27  <Oliver__>OK, so I have the nagging suspision I'm being dumb here but I can't make this work. I want this: http://eplflows.jit.su/ to got to ssl... should be easy, no?
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17:55:26  <jcrugzz>Oliver__: could you show me some of the server code? you probably want it in the first app.use to call the redirect if its not https
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17:55:47  <Oliver__>Ah, the first you say? I have it as the last...
17:56:03  <indexzero>kenperkins: merged
17:56:04  <Oliver__>Trying as first...
17:56:16  <indexzero>kenperkins: I'm not convinced the test failures are because of your code
17:56:21  <kenperkins>neither am I
17:56:28  <indexzero>and with those version bumps I can reproduce the failures consistently on my machine
17:56:40  <kenperkins>I wonder what's failing
17:56:43  <kenperkins>let me look at your gist
17:56:52  <indexzero>it's nock getting confused.
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17:57:00  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] nodejitsu/pkgcloud#41 (master - f55cab4 : indexzero): The build is still failing.
17:57:00  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/nodejitsu/pkgcloud/compare/c84c22628209...f55cab43e11d
17:57:00  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/nodejitsu/pkgcloud/builds/6607262
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17:57:25  <kenperkins>hmm multiple failures on travis
17:57:34  <jcrugzz>Oliver__: yea you want to ensure it gets hit before any possible routes
17:57:43  <kenperkins>indexzero: I bet these are all nock failures
17:57:59  <Oliver__>OK, it was defo after the routes call...
17:58:06  <indexzero>kenperkins: I think so as well
17:59:05  <kenperkins>indexzero: something I've noticed is that running a file solo, i.e. "vows --spec test/common/compute/base-test.js"
17:59:14  <kenperkins>will generate a different result than when I run the whole directory
17:59:26  <kenperkins>i.e. "vows --spec test/common/compute/*-test.js"
17:59:33  <kenperkins>so something is def wonk
17:59:37  <Oliver__>Hmmm, very broken now - this is a gist: https://gist.github.com/oliverlloyd/d6126b351d1ce1b470fd
17:59:50  <Oliver__>It's failing to get anything with that use at the top
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18:02:19  <jcrugzz>Oliver__: is this locally?
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18:10:26  <Oliver__>Sorry, I have to run - thanks anyway - I'll dig more into this tomorrow
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18:10:46  <kenperkins>indexzero: yea looking at the travis output, I can't understand how nock could be confused.
18:11:13  <kenperkins>maybe i'll author a PR to nock to allow optional logging of the deltas on a failure
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18:11:58  <jcrugzz>Oliver__: np, its probably just some middleware weirdness with express.
18:12:40  <Oliver__>Yeah, well the site works with https so it's not disastrous - it just won't redirect, ta
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18:15:58  <patrickod>anyone here have experience monkey-patching core libraries ? https://gist.github.com/patrickod/9e5dffa26b2f0d4b0913
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18:16:23  <patrickod>trying to overwrite the http.ClientRequest constructor but having issues where any changes I make aren't reflected in http.js itself
18:16:29  <patrickod>but only in the file calling http.js
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18:18:02  <jcrugzz>patrickod: what is it you are trying to do exactly? see if there is a better way to go about this
18:18:33  <patrickod>jcrugzz want to proxy requests for a specific host across a codebase
18:18:47  <patrickod>basically replace "blah.example.org" with "proxy.example.org"
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18:19:18  <patrickod>wanted to overwrite the constructor and do the swap of host there if possible, then let the request continue
18:20:24  <patrickod>I tried overwriting http.Agent.prototype.createSocket but not all HTTP requests use it.
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18:23:02  <jcrugzz>patrickod: so this is instead of setting up an actual proxy?
18:23:31  <patrickod>I have a forwarding proxy set up to receive these requests
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18:24:02  <patrickod>this is to make all the requests to that specific hostname use the proxy
18:24:05  <patrickod>while leaving the others untouched
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18:28:27  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] rackspace/pkgcloud#7 (master - f55cab4 : indexzero): The build is still failing.
18:28:27  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/rackspace/pkgcloud/compare/c84c22628209...f55cab43e11d
18:28:27  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/rackspace/pkgcloud/builds/6608114
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18:28:30  <jcrugzz>patrickod: a conditional for that case cant be setup without overwriting the http class?
18:29:14  <patrickod>I was hoping that by writing this one file I could save altering all the other http client calls in the codebase
18:29:18  <patrickod>as well as in submodules
18:31:24  <kenperkins>indexzero: are you building node.js from source? NVM? etc?
18:31:43  <indexzero>kenperkins: no, just osx installer
18:31:45  <indexzero>f* nvm
18:32:03  <kenperkins>why do you dislike nvm? can you share?
18:32:30  <kenperkins>indexzero: interesting, just switched from nvm 0.8.23 to nvm 0.8.22 and got 2 failures
18:32:36  <jcrugzz>patrickod: well that seems like you are trying to cheat :p
18:32:42  <patrickod>definitely :P
18:32:48  <indexzero>kenperkins: I see ...
18:32:55  <patrickod>thought I'd try to be both lazy and clever
18:33:00  <kenperkins>but not nock failures, investigating
18:33:19  <patrickod>really the problem is the dependencies, don't want to have to fork all of them just to do this one thing
18:33:29  <jcrugzz>patrickod: haha well id just bite the bulet now because it wont be a sustainable solution
18:33:50  <patrickod>why can't you help me be lazy ? :(
18:33:55  <patrickod>but yeah I was hoping to avoid it
18:34:05  <patrickod>but it seems like I might have to do that instead
18:34:11  <jcrugzz>can't avoid the inevitable :p
18:34:17  <patrickod>watch me try
18:34:20  <jcrugzz>haha
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18:55:47  <kenperkins>the joy of running tests over and over hoping for a failure
18:55:58  <jcrugzz>kenperkins: lol
18:56:07  <julianduque>automate the thing
18:56:08  <kenperkins>don't know what else to do
18:56:10  <jcrugzz>im glad its giving you some positive endorphins
18:56:16  <kenperkins>julianduque++
18:56:32  <kenperkins>while (exitCode === 0) { run tests(); }
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19:01:25  <indexzero>kenperkins: thank you for investigating this
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19:11:04  <kenperkins>indexzero: don't really have a choice. We can't expect to move forward if the tests don't behave
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19:14:08  <lpin>guys, is there any known "issue" with websuckets?
19:14:22  <lpin>i have huge spikes of lag
19:14:40  <lpin>https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/58444696/1.png https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/58444696/2.png
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19:16:36  <lpin>i'm in italy but users of my app reported the same issue also from canada
19:17:41  <lpin>it's like this since 1 week or so
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19:24:41  <patrickod>jcrugzz you were right :( ended up forking the modules and patching them instead
19:24:55  <patrickod>sad my lazy hack didn't work out :(
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19:25:09  <mmalecki>lpin: no known issues, but noted. I'll have someone investigate
19:25:14  <jcrugzz>patrickod: its ok. you will be happier in the long run because of this!
19:25:24  <patrickod>jcrugzz ah now don't go too far !
19:25:35  <patrickod>I'd be much happier had I never encountered this issue
19:25:36  <lpin>mmalecki ty
19:27:07  <patrickod>but it's a pretty clean solution all in all.
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19:30:48  <jcrugzz>patrickod: thats what counts.
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20:05:19  <asta__>Hi, anyone know why I would get a deploy:github:no_pkg_json 502 error (We couldn't get package.json from github) on a public repo when trying to deploy?
20:09:31  <jcrugzz>asta__: have you done the github auth found here https://www.nodejitsu.com/documentation/features/webhooks/ as im assuming this is a private repo
20:11:18  <asta__>No, i've not done that bit as its a public repo.
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20:12:47  <mmalecki>I know what this is
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20:14:07  <mmalecki>github now requires user-agent header
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20:14:20  <mmalecki>let me fix and deploy
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20:15:10  <asta__>ok cool
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20:29:30  <mmalecki>asta__: can you try now?
20:29:43  <asta__>sure
20:30:01  <mmalecki>it appears that github started requiring it just today
20:32:01  <asta__>heh
20:32:12  <asta__>I got a successful deploy message now!
20:32:25  <asta__>Thanks for your help
20:32:38  <mmalecki>yay
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20:43:48  <kenperkins>indexzero: interesting. I'm seeing a case where vows (or nock) seems to have confused responses between two tests
20:45:07  <kenperkins>i wonder which is more likely
20:45:13  <mmalecki>nock
20:45:28  <mmalecki>nock is the worst way you can go about mocking http imo
20:45:33  <kenperkins>LOL
20:45:48  <mmalecki>I was working on a thing which actually was a http server
20:45:53  <kenperkins>based on it overriding the prototype?
20:45:56  <mmalecki>but mocking like that is hard to get right
20:45:59  <mmalecki>kenperkins: worse
20:46:07  <mmalecki>kenperkins: based on overriding request module
20:46:17  <kenperkins>is mock only for request?
20:46:21  <kenperkins>I didn't even know
20:46:41  <kenperkins>lots of changes required to integrate a new url for tests
20:46:49  <kenperkins>given how many of them are hardcoded to ec2.amazonaws.com etc
20:46:58  <kenperkins>(if we got the http route)
20:47:03  <mmalecki>kenperkins: oh, actually, now that I look at it it overrides http module
20:47:04  <mmalecki>my bad
20:47:13  <mmalecki>it's still bad and not portable
20:48:59  <kenperkins>understood
20:50:51  <kenperkins>so spin up an http server that only knows how to respond to specific requests?
20:51:03  <kenperkins>seems like a massive amount of work
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20:53:03  <mmalecki>kenperkins: not really, it's simpler than overriding prototypes
20:53:15  <mmalecki>you set up the test, push expected requests into a queuer
20:53:17  <mmalecki>*queue
20:53:22  <mmalecki>call callbacks and such
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20:56:02  <kenperkins>mhmm
20:56:45  <mmalecki>kenperkins: if I wasn't working on something else, I'd write it to prove it in an hour or two :)
20:57:12  <kenperkins>well that's what I'm here for
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21:05:28  <kenperkins>mmalecki: many of the nock problems are exacerbated by vows being parallel within a batch
21:05:46  <Baastrup>Hello. What would you recommend for communication between two node apps? I'm using sockjs for server-to-client, but that is not really intended for server-to-server
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21:06:02  <kenperkins>mmalecki: for example, my mocha based tests with mock work just fine
21:09:18  <julianduque>Baastrup: a message queue perhaps?
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21:09:51  <kenperkins>Baastrup: it's also a function of what kind of messages? do you need durability, etc
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21:15:59  <Baastrup>kenperkins: julianduque: I need durability, yes. It's for continuously sending updates in a kind of pub/sub setup. I'm leaning towards raw websockets
21:16:48  <julianduque>Baastrup: but server-to-server?
21:19:38  <Baastrup>julianduque: Yes :) I have a single entry point of data (from an external source) to a parser. The parser needs to push updates out to subscribing servers, that handles clients
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21:22:54  <jimmy__>are you guys having downtime for free accounts right now? Getting this error: "No free servers available. "
21:23:26  <nathan7>jimmy__: Oi, we're out of servers
21:23:58  <jimmy__>Oi ... im working on getting a company credit card ... just want to make sure that's what was up
21:24:13  <nathan7>We're spawning more [=
21:24:33  <jimmy__>it's not a problem ... the company can afford it :) You guys deserve it
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21:30:07  <jcrugzz>jimmy__: go ahead and try again :)
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21:31:00  <klaemo>No free servers available. Please visit #nodejitsu... what's going on?
21:31:19  <jcrugzz>klaemo: can you try again?
21:32:04  <klaemo>jcrugzz: nope, nothing. (trying it in webops btw)
21:32:12  <sgaw>jcrugzz: I'm still getting it too.
21:32:35  <jcrugzz>ok. give me a few minutes guys :).
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21:32:50  <sgaw>jcrugzz: Is this just a sandbox issue? Happy to move off the trial if it help you and me. :-)
21:34:18  <sgaw>jcrugzz: Seems to be okay again now.
21:34:35  <sgaw>jcrugzz: Thank you. Question about the sandbox still applies however.
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21:35:41  <jcrugzz>sgaw: ok cool. Good to hear! And if you enjoy our service I definitely recommend upgrading at a time that is right for you :)
21:36:19  <sgaw>jcrugzz: You've convinced me. :-D
21:36:43  <julianduque>:)
21:38:40  <klaemo>jcrugzz: mine is running too now, thanks :)
21:38:54  <jcrugzz>awesome to hear klaemo :)
21:39:39  <kenperkins>well that settles it, nock has a bug.
21:39:42  <kenperkins>now to find it.
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21:57:57  <indexzero>kenperkins: pgte is always very helpful (he wrote most of nock)
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22:36:37  <redders>is something going on?
22:36:45  <redders>i can't seem to deploy my app - socket hang up..
22:37:40  <redders>anyone else having issues?
22:38:11  <julianduque>redders: username and appname please
22:38:17  <jcrugzz>redders: make sure you have the latest jitsu. Run an `npm install jitsu -g`
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22:39:17  <redders>jcrugzz: will try that now
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23:00:47  <redders>julianduque: still getting socket hang up - would you mind having a look? username: redders6600 appname: wormy
23:01:21  <julianduque>redders: let me check
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23:02:15  <kenperkins>indexzero: pgte? is that his irc nickname?
23:02:35  <indexzero>https://github.com/pgte
23:02:39  <kenperkins>ty
23:02:42  <indexzero>it's his github username
23:02:53  <indexzero>pedro teixeira, he used to work at Nodejitsu
23:03:03  <kenperkins>ah, his github still says he does :D
23:04:34  <redders>julianduque: it might be because i just deleted my database that the app tries to access.. recreated it now.. let's see..
23:04:41  <redders>julianduque: (deleted it by mistake)
23:05:20  <julianduque>redders: oh, so the app was crashing when starting
23:05:49  <redders>julianduque: potentially yes - i should have some error handling too
23:07:39  <julianduque>redders: let me know if the deploy process after the fix goes well
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23:11:31  <redders>julianduque: still doesn't seem to be working - just getting 'socket hang up' - how best do i diagnose this?
23:12:05  <julianduque>redders: let me take a look
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23:14:01  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] rackspace/pkgcloud#8 (master - f9dc34a : Ken Perkins): The build is still failing.
23:14:01  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/rackspace/pkgcloud/compare/f55cab43e11d...f9dc34a9b3d6
23:14:01  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/rackspace/pkgcloud/builds/6615202
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23:16:00  <julianduque>redders: can you try again with `jitsu deploy --debug` and create a gist with the output please
23:17:08  <redders>julianduque: sure
23:17:52  <redders>julianduque: weirdly i can't start any of my already deployed apps, i just get 'unknown failure'
23:18:29  <julianduque>redders: we are investigating
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23:20:25  <redders>julianduque: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/a0e1eeda289a1774cdc2
23:20:57  <julianduque>redders: looking into it :)
23:21:08  <redders>julianduque: thanks!
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23:21:19  <nodejitsu-github>[conservatory-api] mmalecki created clusters (+1 new commit): http://git.io/gLEO8w
23:21:19  <nodejitsu-github>conservatory-api/clusters 7ceff35 Maciej MaƂecki: [api] Add `Servers#listCluster` API
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23:31:32  <julianduque>redders: can you try again please?
23:31:57  <redders>julianduque: ok
23:35:09  <redders>julianduque: same deal - socket hang up
23:35:27  <kenperkins>indexzero: any way to force vows to be sync within a batch
23:36:33  <julianduque>redders: hmmm, still on it
23:40:43  <indexzero>kenperkins: what do you mean "sync"?
23:40:50  <indexzero>do you mean "serial"?
23:41:00  <kenperkins>yea srry
23:41:09  <kenperkins>series even
23:41:15  <indexzero>no, each batch is parallel, but you can add as many batches as you want
23:41:34  <indexzero>it's one of the features I really want in vows
23:41:36  <indexzero>but
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23:43:45  <julianduque>redders: i think i got it
23:43:56  <redders>julianduque: :D
23:44:50  <julianduque>redders: another try please?
23:44:51  <julianduque>:)
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23:46:50  <redders>julianduque: much more promising now - I got an error :) can't find the underscore module -- how do i bundle a module with my app?
23:47:15  <julianduque>redders: add it to package.json as a dependency or bundledDependency
23:48:05  <redders>julianduque: ah, of course - thought that was populated automatically but i guess only the first time
23:48:51  <redders>julianduque: perfect - it worked :)
23:48:54  <julianduque>it's running!
23:49:00  <julianduque>aleluyah :)
23:49:38  <redders>julianduque: thank you so much for your help - is there anything i can avoid doing in future to stop that happenning?
23:50:03  <julianduque>redders: be sure all deps are in the right place
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