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01:07:55  <rocket>does nodejitsu have any type of file storage?
01:08:07  <rocket>for example, a user uploading an image
01:08:26  <coderarity>you can use the local file system, but you'll lose it every time you deploy
01:08:47  <coderarity>so you could use the local file system to save an image while it's uploading, then move it to S3 or something similar
01:08:58  <coderarity>but nothing persistent
01:09:34  <rocket>ok
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01:16:37  <pono_>hola, looked around and didn't see anything, so wanted to ask: is it possible to run a neo4j server on nodejitsu
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01:29:46  <coderarity>pono_: not really, JVM can't really run on a 256 MB drone
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02:32:53  <jeffy>I'm a total noob. I can't get the static flatiron plugin to serve a test html file. Here's the code: http://pastie.org/5586774 . Any ideas?
02:34:43  <coderarity>what version of flatiron?
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02:39:29  <jeffy>flatiron version 0.3.2
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02:41:26  <jeffy>@codearity: flatiron version 0.3.2
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02:41:40  <coderarity>sorry laptop battery :/
02:41:41  <coderarity>ok
02:41:48  <jeffy>no worries, thanks for the help
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02:45:26  <coderarity>jeffy: alright, so how are you testing it? and can you `ls -l static` from your script's directory?
02:47:53  <jeffy>here's the ls: http://pastie.org/5586815
02:48:32  <jeffy>I'm testing by browsing to http://localhost:3000/test.html
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02:49:26  <konklone>Hi!
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02:52:06  <jeffy>@codarity: this is the error I get in the response "Could not find path: /test.html"
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02:57:57  <coderarity>jeffy: alright
02:58:00  <harbhub>can i work as an intern for you guys?
02:58:01  <coderarity>konklone: hi
02:58:31  <konklone>coderarity: thanks for your and your colleagues' help leading up to Christmas
02:58:59  <konklone>I was really happy with the level of attention and positive reception it got
02:59:10  <coderarity>konklone: you're welcome :D
02:59:11  <harbhub>hey coderarity
02:59:12  <konklone>things definitely worked out well
02:59:28  <coderarity>konklone: how many hits did you get?
02:59:29  <harbhub>is there anything i could do to become an intern for you?
02:59:43  <konklone>I can definitely come out of it recommending Nodejitsu as a host
02:59:59  <coderarity>harbhub: send an email to ana@nodejitsu.com about it
03:00:05  <mmalecki>harbhub: can you email hiring@nodejitsu.com :) ?
03:00:11  <mmalecki>or Ana, yeah
03:00:14  <coderarity>we have that?
03:00:15  <coderarity>cool
03:00:25  <harbhub>lol
03:00:37  <mmalecki>coderarity: surprisingly we sometimes need to hire people
03:00:40  <harbhub>the thing is.. i don't know that i have any useful skills
03:01:00  <rovar>that might be a problem..
03:01:00  <harbhub>i know a lot of javascript, and i've made a lot of random applications using nodejs
03:01:06  <rovar>you see, in the field of competitive commerce..
03:01:11  <harbhub>lol
03:01:20  <coderarity>can you write javascript and nodejs? good, because that's basically all we do.
03:01:26  <harbhub>yes
03:01:28  <coderarity>and help people do that
03:01:32  <harbhub>i can write those two things
03:01:36  <mmalecki>harbhub: your best bet is emailing that account and introducing yourself and linking your github account :)
03:01:39  <harbhub>i've used socketio and redis
03:01:50  <harbhub>my github account doesn't have much
03:01:58  <harbhub>you guys took down my free drone :(
03:02:07  <harbhub>i've been programming with my friend Niggler
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03:02:32  <mmalecki>harbhub: was the project opensource?
03:02:40  <harbhub>some bits of it were
03:02:57  <harbhub>we used a node server on a linux box
03:03:00  <mmalecki>if an app is totally open source we can host it for free, otherwise, sorry, you have to pay for it
03:03:07  <harbhub>oh
03:03:11  <harbhub>you mean my drone?
03:03:16  <mmalecki>ya
03:03:26  <harbhub>yep sure it can be open source
03:03:50  <harbhub>i was making lots of web pages and apps
03:03:57  <harbhub>just to get used to node
03:04:17  <mmalecki>cool, when you have an open source app, email ana@nodejitsu.com, she'll get you set up
03:05:29  <coderarity>jeffy: yo, use dir as your key instead of root
03:05:56  <coderarity>jeffy: in line 8
03:06:07  <jeffy>codearity: I'll try it now...thanks!!!
03:07:01  <konklone>coderarity: 466K visits between Dec 24-26
03:07:15  <harbhub>konklone, what is your site?
03:07:27  <konklone>724K visits for the duration of the app so far (Dec 18 - right now)
03:07:35  <konklone>harbhub: isitchristmas.com
03:07:42  <mmalecki>konklone: wow.
03:08:17  <harbhub>i like it
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03:09:11  <konklone>a pretty high % of raw pageviews ended up making connections, too
03:09:34  <harbhub>why?
03:09:40  <konklone>it's a little tough to compare my two analytics sources (Google, and my own stored in Redis), in part cause their time zones differ (didn't catch that in time to change it)
03:09:54  <konklone>and in part because until 12/23, I was letting reconnects from timeouts and the like count as new connections
03:10:01  <harbhub>konklone, what is the purpose of your app?
03:10:02  <konklone>harbhub: why did I not make money from it?
03:10:07  <harbhub>yep
03:10:08  <harbhub>that too
03:10:10  <konklone>how would I monetize it? :)
03:10:13  <konklone>it is just for fun
03:10:24  <harbhub>you wouldn't
03:10:29  <harbhub>that is why i said too bad heh
03:10:33  <konklone>the site as a blank page with a word I made in 2007 as a joke, in like, 10 minutes
03:10:35  <harbhub>how did you make the cursor disappear?
03:10:44  <harbhub>so that you could place an image in it's place?
03:10:45  <konklone>I did the node.js mouse-sharing stuff as an experiment
03:10:47  <harbhub>is this a canvas?
03:10:57  <konklone>harbhub: nope, it's all straight DOM manipulation with JS and some CSS
03:11:03  <konklone>cursor is turned off through CSS
03:11:14  <konklone>flags are moved in JS and adjusted to center itself around the cursor's position
03:11:15  <harbhub>i see
03:11:16  <harbhub>css
03:11:18  <harbhub>.flag
03:11:20  <harbhub>cursor:none
03:11:26  <konklone>the click effects are all CSS3
03:11:31  <konklone>transitions
03:11:43  <harbhub>right
03:11:52  <harbhub>so the cursor tip gets a flag
03:12:05  <harbhub>and the .flag class is following the cursor
03:12:18  <harbhub>so you never see a cursor because anything with .flag class gets cursor:none
03:12:18  <harbhub>?
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03:15:43  <konklone>right
03:15:45  <konklone>well
03:15:50  <konklone>you don't see a cursor because the cursor is disabled
03:15:54  <konklone>if I didn't show the flag, you'd just see nothing
03:16:09  <harbhub>but
03:16:14  <harbhub>if you disable the cursor
03:16:26  <harbhub>you can still locate the mouse X and Y?
03:17:54  <konklone>yep
03:18:00  <konklone>it still comes in onmousemove events
03:19:36  <harbhub>awesome
03:19:40  <harbhub>that is good to know :)
03:19:59  <mmalecki>awesome places to visit in Europe, go!
03:20:22  <mmalecki>(probably bad time to ask, most of Europe is asleep already.)
03:20:36  <harbhub>konklone, have you made any games
03:20:36  <harbhub>?
03:21:43  <konklone>mmalecki: the western half of Istanbul is nice :)
03:21:52  <konklone>take a train there, you can get a sleeper car and it is fantastic
03:22:02  <konklone>harbhub: nope, I haven't ever done any game dev
03:22:05  <mmalecki>I'm in.
03:22:08  <konklone>my background is all web dev, and some Android dev
03:22:31  <konklone>I did a 24-hour train ride from Bucharest to Istanbul alone, made friends on the train and hung out with them in Istanbul for a few days
03:22:50  <mmalecki>konklone: trains stress me tho, I prefer flying
03:23:01  <mmalecki>might make an exception :)
03:23:06  <coderarity>dude, trains are awesome
03:23:18  <harbhub>that's what she said
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03:23:53  <mmalecki>coderarity: unless you're in the middle of nowhere in Italy and missed your last connection due to bad signs on platforms
03:24:11  <konklone>mmalecki: well, also - I missed my flight leaving Istanbul ;)
03:24:14  <coderarity>harbhub: check out #gamedev, that's a great place to ask about that type of stuff
03:24:18  <konklone>that is stressful!
03:24:21  <coderarity>harbhub: i hung out there a long
03:24:22  <mmalecki>konklone: oh, I do that too, often
03:24:28  <coderarity>mmalecki: yeah, happens on planes all the time
03:24:34  <mmalecki>can always rebook tho :)
03:24:46  <konklone>yeah....for $$$$
03:24:50  <coderarity>mmalecki: both to and from texas, was stuck in atlanta
03:24:54  <konklone>it was a $1,000 mistake for me, since I had a time limit to get back in
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03:25:03  <konklone>since it was a big and international flight
03:25:25  <mmalecki>konklone: it depends. you can do that for free if you're a frequent traveller and all that
03:25:34  <mmalecki>or flying business
03:25:51  <mmalecki>but yeah, Istanbul that is!
03:26:07  <konklone>:)
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03:33:53  <coderarity>mmalecki: go to finland/sweden, experience power metal, come back
03:35:06  <coderarity>i need to go live in finland for a year and see every power metal band
03:35:28  <mmalecki>that's a nice idea
03:36:14  <konklone>I don't like power metal, but that does actually sound appealing anyway
03:36:49  <coderarity>the glory flows not in you
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03:54:54  <airandfingers>i'm curious as to why Nodejitsu is listed under "DIY Platforms" on https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Node-Hosting.. I'm under the impression that Nodejitsu only provides managed hosting.
03:56:25  <konklone>Nodejitsu is listed under the Managed hosting table there
03:56:42  <konklone>and then it lists Nodejitsu in the DIY section but only as a header to all of the open source components of Nodejitsu's platform that they've contributed
03:56:46  <coderarity>airandfingers: yeah, it is managed
03:57:10  <coderarity>airandfingers: we also can set up a private cloud for big businesses too, that's why it's there, I think
03:58:18  <airandfingers>@coderarity, konklone: i see, thanks
03:59:01  <airandfingers>konklone: i see, those components are definitely useful for any DIY setup; i've been using forever for a while
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04:01:44  <konklone>I should use that
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04:28:37  <Nodejitsu-Github>haibu/master bd76519 Maciej MaƂecki: [doc fix] Mention proper communication mechanism used by `carapace`...
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06:23:44  <airandfingers>can someone explain to me how the "Large" pricing plan works? http://nodejitsu.com/paas/pricing.html Exactly what do "$0.0042/hour" and "Automatic [number of drones]" mean?
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06:24:50  <coderarity>airandfingers: you can add as many drones as you want, and it's priced based on hours of usage
06:25:13  <coderarity>you can add as little drones as you want too
06:25:24  <airandfingers>@coderarity: "usage" meaning.. uptime?
06:25:46  <coderarity>airandfingers: so like, when a drone is running your app, that's usage
06:26:30  <coderarity>airandfingers: if you do `jitsu apps setdrones 5`, it'll be using 5 drone hours for every hour you leave it like that
06:26:50  <airandfingers>@coderarity: okay, thanks
06:27:12  <airandfingers>@coderarity: so, i've got ~10 node apps on my private machine; each is a more-or-less trivial app that gets more-or-less no traffic
06:27:40  <airandfingers>@coderarity: with nodejitsu, would i have to run a drone for each app, even though it's basically never handling any requests?
06:27:46  <coderarity>airandfingers: yes
06:28:17  <coderarity>airandfingers: could aggregrate those on one server though, if you route based on hostname
06:28:34  <airandfingers>@coderarity: right, i'm doing that now; i just wanted to move away from it
06:29:08  <coderarity>airandfingers: oh, well, you need at least 1 drone per app, so it's be $0.042/hour
06:29:28  <airandfingers>@coderarity: right, can't get around that 1 drone
06:29:39  <coderarity>you can `jitsu stop` it
06:29:45  <coderarity>but then it won't be running on a drone
06:29:49  <coderarity>and won't be functioning
06:29:55  <airandfingers>@coderarity: do you know of any resources i could check out, for people in a situation like mine?
06:31:41  <coderarity>airandfingers: not really, no
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06:31:50  <coderarity>airandfingers: why do you want to move away from hostname based routing?
06:32:07  <coderarity>airandfingers: gotta do it anyways, that's how nodejitsu balancers route requests
06:34:11  <airandfingers>@coderarity: well, i'm fine with hostname-based routing, but i've basically made it up as i've gone along (using express vhosts)
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06:34:26  <airandfingers>@coderarity: i'd much rather follow some common/best practice
06:34:57  <coderarity>airandfingers: well, we use node-http-proxy, maybe check that code out?
06:35:14  <airandfingers>@coderarity: after all, don't many people run multiple node apps? seems like the best way to play around with node
06:35:52  <airandfingers>@coderarity: node-http-proxy - sounds familiar from when i was looking up how to do hostname-based routing, will look it up now
06:36:17  <coderarity>airandfingers: the only thing is, you can only listen on one port on Nodejitsu, so it doesn't really work yet
06:36:33  <coderarity>but the code is someting to check out if you want to see how we do it
06:37:48  <airandfingers>@coderarity: k, thanks for the heads up
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06:48:16  <airandfingers>@coderarity: so, i wouldn't be able to use node-http-proxy? or the method it uses to route requests to other servers?
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06:55:32  <coderarity>airandfingers: well, not really
06:55:46  <coderarity>airandfingers: but maybe with domain sockets, although that would require a patch afaik
06:56:06  <coderarity>airandfingers: the problem is you can only listen on one port
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06:57:56  <airandfingers>@coderarity: k, thanks again for the advice/info
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07:06:07  <yoman>"custom SSL is already available in a private beta. Join us in #nodejitsu on IRC for full details."
07:06:16  <yoman>i've come to inquire :)
07:06:44  <coderarity>yoman: https://ssl.jit.su
07:07:18  <yoman>what does sign in do? i don't have a nodejitsu account yet
07:13:34  <coderarity>yoman: oh, well, after you get a nodejitsu account, that's where you set it up
07:13:52  <yoman>what does it cost if i get the $3 dollar account
07:14:00  <coderarity>it's free, for now
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07:22:07  <yoman>will i be grandfathered in or will i be forced to pony up after the free period?
07:23:15  <coderarity>well, it's listed under business plans on the website, so eventually you'll need a business plan, but we're not going to suddenly take it away, there will be warning
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07:42:10  <yoman>any objection for serving an entire site/web application over SSL?
07:42:37  <yawnt>nope :)
07:42:37  <coderarity>yoman: no
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07:47:11  <yoman>awesome
07:47:26  <yoman>nothing worse than having to manage https/http
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07:50:12  <dscape>JasonSmith: yt?
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08:13:56  <yoman>is there any recommendation if i needed to run a ruby gem process? nodejitsu obviously wont support that?
08:14:11  <yawnt>i'm afraid not, i'm sorry.. what did you need?
08:15:01  <yoman>its a gem that acoomplishes a specific task when the user clicks a button
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08:15:17  <yoman>there is no version of it for node.js
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08:15:45  <yawnt>name?
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08:16:56  <yoman>can't really go into much detail about it right now
08:17:21  <yoman>sounds like i will need to have an amazon ec2 instance just to run this code
08:17:39  <yawnt>you can use socket.io to tell your server code that the user has clicked
08:17:49  <yawnt>and replicate the stuff in js
08:18:37  <yawnt>taken you already use socket.io.. otherwise it's a huge dep just for that task.. you could bind .click with jquery and submit an ajax request to your backend
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08:21:50  <yoman>unfortunately the ruby gem is doing some things that are not possible to replicate with node
08:21:58  <yoman>at least not yet
08:22:03  <yawnt>i find that hard to believe :D
08:22:52  <yoman>basically its html to pdf
08:23:01  <yoman>but fully text selectable
08:23:54  <yoman>http://plessl.github.com/wkpdf/
08:25:40  <yawnt>mh i see, i guess there's no library for that yet..
08:25:52  <yawnt>i mean, you could replicate them but it'd take a fair amount of time
08:26:24  <yawnt>*that
08:28:31  <yoman>so you can't install anything on the nodejitsu command line and run it using node.js exec?
08:29:13  <yawnt>no, but if you need anything specific you can email devops@nodejitsu and we'll see what we can do to help you :)
08:29:43  <yoman>nice
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08:53:59  <yoman>any recommended ssl partners for nodejitsu?
08:54:47  <yawnt>you can use whatever you're comfortable with :)
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09:04:41  <mindcrew>hey any one can sort my small problem
09:04:59  <mindcrew>i use app which use mongodb data base
09:05:13  <mindcrew>my app deploy successfully
09:05:33  <mindcrew>but not connect with mongodb
09:05:41  <mindcrew>please help me out???
09:06:10  <jesusabdullah>I mean
09:06:23  <jesusabdullah>have you looked at the actual error message?
09:06:39  <jesusabdullah>"it doesn't work" is very vague you understand
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09:07:47  <mindcrew><jesusabdullah> can you help me out please???
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09:09:57  <mindcrew>any one there ????
09:10:10  <jesusabdullah>mindcrew: maybe byut you're going to have to tell me more about what you're doing wrong
09:10:34  <mindcrew>yes ofcourse
09:10:37  <jesusabdullah>mindcrew: I'm not nodejitsu support though, I can only point you in the right direction
09:10:54  <mindcrew>i m deploying login system
09:11:11  <mindcrew>ok no problem
09:11:27  <mindcrew>which have database system of mongodb
09:11:36  <mindcrew>i locall run successfully
09:11:47  <mindcrew>now i want to deploy on jitsu
09:12:08  <jesusabdullah>00:05 < mindcrew> but not connect with mongodb
09:12:09  <mindcrew>whole login system deploy on jitsu successfull
09:12:13  <jesusabdullah>need more details
09:12:20  <jesusabdullah>what does "not connect" mean?
09:12:26  <jesusabdullah>you should see a real actual error message
09:12:45  <jesusabdullah>something you can show us using a gist or whatever
09:12:54  <mindcrew>ok
09:13:02  <mindcrew>i'll show you in a minut
09:13:04  <mindcrew>ok
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09:18:44  <mindcrew>http://mindcrew.demogame.jit.su
09:19:19  <mindcrew><jesusabdullah> http://mindcrew.demogame.jit.su this my app please try to signup
09:19:40  <mindcrew><jesusabdullah> u there
09:21:13  <yawnt>mindcrew: you're trying to connect to localhost
09:21:26  <mindcrew>yes
09:21:31  <yawnt>that's why your app is failing..
09:21:37  <yawnt>there's no mongodb server in the drones :)
09:21:41  <mindcrew>i successfully run this script on local
09:21:48  <yawnt>because you have mongodb installed locally
09:22:06  <yawnt>localhost refers to the machine the script runs on
09:22:13  <mindcrew>ok so how we install mongodb on my drone
09:22:16  <yawnt>mindcrew: you can create a mongodb by using `jitsu databases create mongo`
09:22:33  <yawnt>and use the credentials that jitsu gives you in the mongodb.connect()
09:23:33  <mindcrew>so first i install mongodb server on my drone
09:23:55  <mindcrew>using the command jitsu databases create mongo
09:24:26  <yawnt>it does not install mongo in the drone
09:24:33  <yawnt>it creates a database using either mongohq or mongolab
09:24:38  <yawnt>which is accessible from our drones
09:26:02  <mindcrew>ok i'll do it and let u know
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09:29:39  <mindcrew>can you tell me where i get mongodb.connect()
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09:37:41  <mindcrew>where i put this connection string i got from jitsu in my app
09:38:13  <mindcrew>yawnt please sort it out this last thing
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10:16:41  <mindcrew>please any one help me
10:17:16  <mindcrew>i m one step to run my app on jtsu
10:17:44  <mindcrew>can any one suggest me only one thing???
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10:21:59  <mindcrew>please someone help me out
10:22:11  <mindcrew>i am new on jtisu and node.js
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10:23:34  <lpin>mindcrew i'm not nodejitsu support but what's the prob?
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10:24:31  <mindcrew><lpin>
10:24:40  <mindcrew>thanks for coming
10:24:56  <mindcrew>actually i deploy my app on jtisu
10:25:01  <mindcrew>*jitsu
10:25:11  <mindcrew>which have login system
10:25:27  <mindcrew>so i use database mongodb
10:25:57  <mindcrew>i create the data "login-testing" using jitsu command
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10:26:09  <mindcrew>than i got connection string
10:26:40  <mindcrew>not i don't know , where i put this connection string in my app
10:26:58  <mindcrew>i locally run my login script successfully
10:27:06  <mindcrew>please help me out
10:27:18  <mindcrew>if you want to know any thing else
10:27:23  <mindcrew>please aske me
10:27:25  <lpin>what are you using to connect to mongodb?
10:27:37  <lpin>mongoose?
10:27:50  <mindcrew>means??????
10:28:18  <mindcrew>actually i m new about jitsu
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10:28:48  <lpin>you need a module to connect to mongodb
10:28:49  <mindcrew>what is mongoose???
10:28:58  <mindcrew>ok
10:29:13  <mindcrew>than how we get this module
10:29:44  <mindcrew>and how we connect with this module
10:30:00  <lpin>is the app works on your local enviroment, you have it already installed
10:30:16  <mindcrew>ok
10:30:24  <lpin>i just want to know what you are using?
10:31:23  <lpin>you should have something like require('mongodb') or something
10:31:30  <mindcrew>ok
10:31:33  <lpin>in your app
10:32:43  <mindcrew>so i add require('mongodb') this line on my app.js
10:32:47  <mindcrew>????
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10:33:35  <lpin>wait a sec, you said your login system works on localhost
10:33:39  <lpin>right?
10:33:40  <mindcrew>yes i have require('mongodb') on my app
10:33:45  <lpin>ok
10:33:53  <mindcrew>yes
10:34:10  <mindcrew>then what i do???
10:34:36  <lpin>later in your code should be the part where you create the client
10:35:05  <mindcrew>yes
10:35:10  <mindcrew>then??
10:36:20  <lpin>when you create the client you should be able to use the string provided by jitsu
10:37:20  <mindcrew>sorry i can't understand?????
10:37:47  <lpin>take a look here
10:37:48  <lpin>https://github.com/mongodb/node-mongodb-native/blob/master/examples/simple.js
10:37:56  <mindcrew>ok
10:38:00  <lpin>var Db = require('../lib/mongodb').Db
10:38:20  <lpin>then Db.connect(format("mongodb://%s:%s/node-mongo-examples?w=1", host, port), function(err, db) {
10:39:04  <lpin>the string provided by jitsu should go there, in the connect method
10:39:41  <mindcrew>ok
10:40:03  <mindcrew>i'll try this in my app and let you know
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10:49:14  <mindcrew><lpin> can you please look my code
10:49:24  <mindcrew>for connection
10:49:34  <mindcrew>i paste on gist
10:50:02  <lpin>ok, hide you secrect string though
10:50:47  <mindcrew>ok
10:50:54  <mindcrew>i'll give u the link
10:52:14  <mindcrew>https://gist.github.com/4396788
10:52:25  <mindcrew>please take a look
10:52:49  <mindcrew>and provide me the way where i put connection string
10:55:19  <mindcrew><lpin> u there
10:56:07  <lpin>yeah, sec
10:56:19  <mindcrew>sure
11:06:38  <mindcrew>you find something???
11:07:30  <lpin>sorry man, i'm a bit busy, i'll a look in few min
11:07:46  <lpin>take*
11:09:14  <mindcrew>ok you check on your own time after that privde me the solution
11:09:20  <mindcrew>i'll wait
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11:19:28  <lpin>mindcrew mongodb string has this format
11:19:31  <lpin>mongodb://user:pass@host:port/dbname
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11:23:01  <lpin_>was saying that string has this format mongodb://user:pass@host:port/dbname
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11:24:32  <lpin_>so in your code set dbHost dbPort and dbName respectively with host, port and dbname
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11:31:26  <mindcrew>ok i'll try to change then let u know
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11:32:31  <lpin>anyway the connect method will parse the url directly
11:33:17  <lpin>take a look here
11:33:18  <lpin>http://runnable.com/external/#mongodb/node-mongodb-native/server.js/popup
11:34:46  <lpin>have to go now brb
11:37:18  <mindcrew>ok thank for ur help
11:37:26  <mindcrew>i try to sort it out
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13:29:43  <mindcrew>i provide connection string provide by jitsu but still got error Internal Server Error
13:29:57  <mindcrew>please help me out from this error
13:31:05  <mindcrew>any one there please reply me???
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13:50:26  <dscape>mindcrew hey
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14:04:29  <mindcrew>any one there???
14:04:41  <mindcrew>i have on query
14:04:43  <mindcrew>please help me out
14:05:46  <mindcrew>any one reply me please???
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14:06:51  <Enzo>Hi!
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14:08:35  <Guest7989>what are the considerations to have in order to use socket,io in an application with nodejitsu?
14:08:49  <Guest7989>I've tried to deploy an application but gives me an error
14:10:25  <dscape>Guest7989: what error do you get?
14:10:28  <dscape>mindcrew: yt?
14:10:30  <dscape>i replied earleir
14:11:21  <Guest7989>https://gist.github.com/4398182
14:11:47  <dscape>Guest7989: that looks like an application error
14:11:52  <dscape>does it work on your local system?
14:12:13  <dscape>`npm start`
14:15:18  <mindcrew>hey i upload my login system onjitsu
14:15:40  <dscape>mindcrew: sorry didnt understand what that meant
14:16:37  <mindcrew>but when i access data from database it give error
14:16:54  <mindcrew>Internal Server Error
14:17:59  <mindcrew>i want to know how we connect my app with mongodb on jitsu
14:18:09  <mindcrew>have u understand???
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14:18:22  <mindcrew>please provide me the way???
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14:18:56  <mindcrew>i didn't get any way
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14:19:39  <jesusabdullah>someone wil be on in a few hrs mindcrew it's like 6:00am west coast right now
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14:20:19  <Sly>mindcrew: what's your username and app name?
14:21:13  <mindcrew>mindcrew
14:21:48  <Sly>Which app is having problems? I see two for the `mindcrew` user.
14:21:49  <mindcrew>app name: node-login
14:21:58  <Sly>Hm. I'm not seeing node-login. One second.
14:22:25  <mindcrew>i delete earlier
14:22:26  <mindcrew>wait 4 1sec
14:22:36  <mindcrew>i deploy in 1 minut
14:22:39  <Sly>Well, it doesn't matter..
14:22:45  <Sly>I can still look up the logs in our servers. :D
14:25:06  <mindcrew>can you tell how we connect my app with mongodb on jitsu
14:25:55  <Sly>I don't know how to use mongo myself, but you can create a mongo database with `jitsu databases create mongo <database name>`
14:26:16  <Sly>As far as implementing it, you'd have to find a module to control mongo and read the documentation for it.
14:26:20  <mindcrew>yes i create it
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14:27:43  <Sly>mindcrew: https://gist.github.com/37e7f213ad78f904c327
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14:27:50  <Sly>That's why your app is throwing a 500 internal error.
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14:33:07  <mindcrew>hey
14:33:42  <mindcrew><Sly> i deploy app now
14:34:03  <Sly>Did you see that error I posted for you?
14:34:09  <mindcrew>the name of app is node-login
14:34:22  <mindcrew>yes see that error
14:34:26  <Sly>mindcrew: looks like it's running fine.
14:34:36  <Sly>data: node-login started
14:35:00  <mindcrew>yes it looks like it fine but it's not
14:35:11  <mindcrew>please try to signup and login
14:36:27  <Sly>Works fine for me.
14:36:41  <Sly>Looks like it may be broke, though.
14:36:41  <mindcrew>you can sucessfully login
14:36:50  <mindcrew>???
14:36:50  <Sly>It told me it added the account, but won't let me login..
14:37:11  <mindcrew>yes this is the problem
14:37:25  <Sly>Sorry. Don't have a clue what that could be.
14:37:30  <mindcrew>because it can't connect to server
14:37:39  <Sly>Oh.
14:37:53  <Sly>What are you using to control mongo?
14:38:14  <mindcrew>yes you click on the link http://mindcrew.demogame.jit.su/print
14:38:44  <Sly>Check your application logs.
14:38:48  <Sly>Going to that page put you a nice error in there.
14:38:54  <Sly>`jitsu logs app node-login`
14:39:06  <mindcrew>can i show u my code where i connect to database server
14:39:20  <Sly>I don't know anything about mongo, so it'd be a waste of time.. honestly.
14:39:20  <Sly>xD
14:39:40  <Sly>Maybe someone else can help, but I can't personally.
14:39:43  <mindcrew>ok thanks for ur support
14:40:03  <Sly>If I were you, I'd ask in #node.js
14:40:10  <Sly>There's a few active people in there. They might know some stuff about mongo.
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14:41:31  <mindcrew>where i got node.js chat
14:41:54  <Sly>Type `/join #node.js` in your client.
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15:14:30  <mindcrew>can any one help me out regading mongodb connection on jitsu
15:14:35  <mindcrew>???
15:14:56  <mindcrew>please someone suggest me
15:18:11  <mindcrew>any one there which know about the connection between mongodb and nodejs
15:21:13  <AvianFlu>mindcrew, what are you seeing
15:21:16  <AvianFlu>what's the trouble
15:23:12  <mindcrew>actually i want deploy login system on jitsu
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15:23:46  <AvianFlu>if you just need to use a mongodb
15:23:47  <mindcrew>this is the link http://mindcrew.demogame.jit.su
15:23:53  <AvianFlu>try `jitsu databases create mongo`
15:24:06  <mindcrew>yes i use mongodb
15:24:31  <AvianFlu>okay, I see a login page
15:24:34  <AvianFlu>so what's the trouble?
15:24:38  <mindcrew>but i think i didn't connect that mongodb with my app
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15:25:15  <mindcrew>i think i have connection problem
15:25:21  <mindcrew>when u signup
15:25:27  <mindcrew>it shows signup done
15:25:33  <mindcrew>but its not
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15:26:31  <mindcrew>please check an tell me how i connect it
15:26:52  <mindcrew>because i successfully run on local host
15:27:10  <mindcrew><@AvianFlu> u there
15:27:22  <mindcrew>please provide me the way
15:27:42  <mindcrew>i waste 2 days but can't do it
15:28:10  <mindcrew><@AvianFlu> hey r u there
15:28:55  <mindcrew>please help me out
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15:31:58  <AvianFlu>mindcrew, are you getting any errors?
15:32:03  <AvianFlu>where is your remote mongodb?
15:32:47  <mindcrew>on jitsu
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15:33:02  <mindcrew>i didn't get any eror
15:33:16  <Sly>mindcrew: what module are you using to try to connect to mongo with?
15:33:19  <Sly>mongoose or what?
15:33:55  <mindcrew>i am not using any module ???
15:34:48  <mindcrew>https://gist.github.com/4396788
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15:35:02  <mindcrew>what i use please see on this link
15:35:46  <mindcrew>have alook please and told me where i put connection string which jitsu provide me
15:36:08  <dscape>mindcrew: does your code run on your local machine?
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15:36:24  <mindcrew>yes absolutly fine
15:36:46  <mindcrew><@dscape> it works well on server
15:37:07  <dscape>mindcrew: ok, so what do you need help with?
15:37:08  <mindcrew>*local machine
15:37:32  <dscape>mindcrew: give me a moment to test it in my local machine then
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15:41:24  <dscape>mindcrew: is this the login-app?
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15:43:43  <mindcrew>i m waiting
15:43:50  <mindcrew><@dscape> comesoon
15:44:18  <dscape>mindcrew: your app runs perfectly in both local and jit.su
15:44:23  <dscape>I can't see the problem
15:45:05  <dscape>If you are unfamiliar with mongodb I suggest you use a database you are more familiar with
15:45:19  <dscape>if you experience issues with mongolab you can try their support channels
15:45:29  <mindcrew>can you login on jitsu?????
15:45:50  <mindcrew>can you login on my app???
15:46:04  <mindcrew>sorry
15:46:10  <dscape>mindcrew: let me check
15:46:15  <mindcrew>its not perfectly working on jitsu
15:46:19  <mindcrew>sure
15:46:35  <mindcrew>please check on jitsu server
15:46:46  <dscape>mindcrew: nop, it doesnt work
15:46:53  <dscape>neither on localhost or the server
15:47:27  <mindcrew>but in my localhost it work perfect
15:47:55  <dscape>mindcrew: then it must mean you set up something locally
15:48:01  <dscape>that is not in my machine
15:48:17  <dscape>but in mine it works _exactly_ like in the live jit.su deployment
15:48:33  <dscape>just created an account and all that
15:48:40  <dscape>both create account
15:48:49  <dscape>both fail on login
15:49:48  <dscape>mindcrew: in here none of us uses mongodb
15:50:02  <dscape>so any mongodb related problem will be impossible for us to help
15:50:10  <dscape>even if we want to and its unrelated to nodejitsu
15:50:14  <dscape>like it's the case right now
15:50:28  <dscape>i suggest you take a peek here to see some open source nodejs mongodb code
15:50:29  <dscape>https://github.com/christkv/tic-tac-toe
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15:51:16  <mindcrew_><@dscape> u there???
15:51:37  <dscape>mindcrew_: https://gist.github.com/808c404fa3ee964ff642
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16:06:24  <Sly>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkwcehPhOXw
16:06:31  <Sly>My new theme song. Forever and always.
16:06:38  <Sly>LULZ
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16:30:10  <valterguy>Is it possible to talk to someone who has access to node-migrator-bot in GitHub?
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17:19:02  <MrPeace>hi
17:20:06  <MrPeace>I have a problem with the billing service
17:20:23  <MrPeace>Who can help me?
17:21:55  <Sly>MrPeace: hey. What's up?
17:27:41  <MrPeace>I have a problem with the billing service when i'm paying with a prepaid Mastercard
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17:30:52  <fomatin>at least the last time i had one, it didn't work for online payments
17:30:56  <fomatin>you need visa
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18:30:16  <Sly>Everyone doing okay in here?
18:34:46  <mmwwww>I was hoping to experiment with a local style heroku for git push, run tests and deploy. Has anyone here had success with the likes of jenkins (or something else) with haibu?
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18:35:12  <valterguy>So, nobody knows who manages node-migrator-bot?
18:36:28  <Sly>valterguy: I don't, no.
18:36:29  <blakmatrix>valterguy: I do
18:36:57  <yawnt>blakmatrix: does valterguy
18:37:00  <yawnt>wops, too late
18:37:36  <Sly>mmwwww: you would need to make a haibu plugin that would let you setup the stuff to get Github data and such.
18:37:52  <valterguy>blakmatrix: so, the history of a project was being rewritten and the fork currently has the old history and it branches off from the root early on now.
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18:38:24  <valterguy>I was going to ask if it is possible for someone to remove the fork and recreate it as there haven't been any changes in a long time.
18:38:34  <valterguy>so it should be pretty stale and nobody would be developing using it.
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18:39:01  <valterguy>could that be done?
18:39:50  <mmwwww>Sly: Hmm, as haibu seems to be the most maintained of all the DIY stacks, I would have hoped that someone has already created these kind of things?
18:40:55  <blakmatrix>valterguy: Ah I see.. you just dont like the fork ? I didnt creat the fork so It was a little bit out of sight out of mind you know
18:41:12  <valterguy>blakmatrix: the fork can stay
18:41:21  <valterguy>blakmatrix: just that the history is somewhat messed up now
18:41:30  <Sly>mmwwww: I'm not sure if anyone has or not. Best to search Github for that.
18:41:43  <Sly>Or even Google may help.
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18:45:23  <blakmatrix>valterguy: I see... Yeah we scrapped running the bot on nodejitsu as the drones could not use git due to ssh key issues
18:45:41  <valterguy>blakmatrix: in that case, could the fork just be deleted?
18:45:50  <blakmatrix>and also it uses a crap ton of memory
18:46:46  <blakmatrix>but during the NKO I saw some one have a possible solution to the git ssh issue
18:47:17  <blakmatrix>https://github.com/niallo/Gitane
18:47:32  <blakmatrix>So I've been keeping that in mind
18:47:57  <valterguy>sounds nice.
18:48:24  <valterguy>but, can the history be updated for the fork?
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18:56:42  <cesconix>yawnt: !
18:56:47  <yawnt>hey :)
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18:56:55  <cesconix>ciao grazie del supporto su fb
18:57:09  <cesconix>stavo vedendo proprio adesso la cosa che mi hai scritto
18:57:14  <yawnt>cesconix: i'm afraid it's english only here, sorry :P
18:57:21  <yawnt>so other people can understand as well
18:57:21  <cesconix>ops
19:03:14  <valterguy>blakmatrix: can I explain it in more detail in PM?
19:04:39  <blakmatrix>valterguy: I deleted the branch, I'll consider it in the future once we have drones that can handle the program at a moderate level also had more Ideas for refactoring it to be more mutiple process/drone freindly
19:05:19  <blakmatrix>but haven't had really much motivation to work on it as it doesnt seem like many people use it
19:05:33  <valterguy>I was talking about a specific fork.
19:05:37  <valterguy>https://github.com/node-migrator-bot/ircnode
19:06:28  <blakmatrix>ah I see.. I thought you were talking about https://github.com/blakmatrix/node-migrator-bot
19:06:36  <valterguy>no, sorry.
19:06:49  <valterguy>should have cleared that up first. my fault.
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19:09:51  <blakmatrix>valterguy: that account has thousands of forks ... what would you like to be done with that particular fork?
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19:10:25  <valterguy>I believe the easiest solution would be to delete the fork and recreate it. The issue is with the history.
19:10:42  <valterguy>The history for the main repo was rewritten and this fork currently contains the old history.
19:12:43  <valterguy>blakmatrix: alternatively, one could also clean it up by hand by deleting the old branches and resetting master to be same as upstream.
19:12:57  <valterguy>blakmatrix: both would essentially accomplish the same goal.
19:13:16  <blakmatrix>valterguy: well since it looks like you've adressed the PR it made, the fork does not need to exist anymore, the easist from my standpoint would be to delete the forked repo from the account assuming I remeber the password to that account lol
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19:13:31  <valterguy>blakmatrix: thank you. :)
19:14:21  <tony_>is this a direct chat with tech support?
19:14:30  <valterguy>tony_: kinda
19:14:47  <tony_>dont want to bother the group with my junk if i'm broadcasting
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19:18:54  <blakmatrix>tony_: you can PM me if you wish I can try and help you
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19:20:42  <valterguy>blakmatrix: a big thank you goes to you! :)
19:20:59  <blakmatrix>valterguy: :)
19:28:05  <valterguy>I suppose theVDude comes by here as the bot was using the same email address for commits as him. am I correct?
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19:33:08  <blakmatrix>valterguy: theVdude?
19:33:25  <valterguy>blakmatrix: apparently not.
19:34:54  <valterguy>ignore that then and have a good day/evening/night or whatever suits your timezone.
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19:36:39  <dweldon>is the iris couch redis db suitable for production use or just for testing?
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19:37:58  <Sly>dweldon: We provide you a free plan, but I believe you can upgrade it. I'm not sure how IrisCouch's redis stuff works.
19:38:03  <Sly>You'd have to check their site.
19:38:19  <Sly>All we do is create your database and stuff on there through API.
19:38:50  <dweldon>yeah their site doesn't mention redis at all
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19:40:11  <Sly>dweldon: try emailing them about it. Can't hurt.
19:40:28  <dweldon>related question - are there any recommended redis providers?
19:41:12  <Sly>I don't use redis, so you're asking the wrong person for that. xD
19:41:29  <Sly>blakmatrix: dscape: ^
19:42:25  <dweldon>I see. it seems like you'd need to do your homework so you don't get a redis instance that's sitting far away from your nodejitsu instance. same goes for any db provider I suppose.
19:42:56  <dweldon>it would be nice if the handbook addressed this
19:42:56  <blakmatrix>I can only suggest the ones we work with redis2go and and redis iriscouch
19:43:58  <blakmatrix>i believe iriscouch is closest
19:44:05  <st_luke>dweldon: that's really a consideration that goes into building any type of app on any type of infra with any type of remote service
19:44:12  <coderarity>dweldon: if you have API access from iriscouch you can make redis instances
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19:46:55  <dweldon>st_luke: yes it is. but I don't feel like I have all the data to make a decision. For example, where are nodejitsu instances hosted? from what I hear they can run on joyent and ec2 (east/west?). my demo instance is running on joyent. am I safe to only pick west coast instances of external services?
19:47:47  <dweldon>what are the criteria for migration. can I peg an instance to ec2 if I want to? etc. etc. If I knew all of this I could make an informed decision.
19:49:03  <st_luke>dweldon: those are valid concerns but I think they're trying to keep the handbook not too overwhelming for newcomers who just want to get an app going
19:50:26  <blakmatrix>US-EAST-1
19:50:53  <coderarity>dweldon: no, they are all joyen
19:51:03  <dweldon>at the same time I don't think you want your paying customers to b0rk their infrastructure choices.
19:51:44  <st_luke>sorry, I'm not an employee, I was just adding to the discussion
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19:55:56  <dweldon><confused>they are all joyent on us east? I just pinged my server and got a joyent west IP.</confused>
19:56:33  <coderarity>dweldon: yes, all joyent us east
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19:58:11  <dweldon>ok. so what would be extremely helpful is if that was published somewhere. otherwise people can't make proper choices.
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21:28:17  <bardu>As a paying customer I get a bit nervous if I see the loss of almost have of your team, no word about it on your website/blog. What holds the future for nodejitsu? Is it time to look for an alternative?
21:29:10  <anoemi>hey bardu
21:30:45  <anoemi>you bring up an interesting point
21:30:55  <anoemi>we've had a lot of changes and we haven't talked much about them. we've been doing great, and have been busy building lots of new things, but maybe some more transparency is in order
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21:37:22  <bardu>anoemi: Well, it good to know you are busy building more things, with a much smaller team that's a challenge. And I suppose you have to start making money at some point (there are still no business plans).
21:38:19  <justicefries>what do you expect out of a business plan that you don't get regularly, out of curiousity?
21:38:22  <justicefries>I use nodejitsu for business.
21:39:43  <bardu> justicefries: me too, but for them to provide an accountable service they have to make money
21:39:56  <blakmatrix>bardu: it's much less than half our team I dunno where you heard that it was half our team?
21:40:06  <justicefries>I'm just curious what you want from a business plan that you aren't already getting?
21:40:41  <anoemi>justicefries: you get configurable drone sizes, priority support, and will be able to choose between infrastructure providers
21:40:52  <justicefries>anoemi: oh, got it.
21:40:59  <justicefries>I guess I'm happy with joyent and just add more drones. :p
21:41:30  <anoemi>justicefries: which plan are you on currently?
21:41:38  <justicefries>large
21:42:02  <justicefries>erm, I'm sorry, I went to small
21:42:06  <bardu>blakmatrix: according to your team listing there are missing at least 4 peoples and Marak was gone earlier, but this is not my point
21:43:41  <anoemi>bardu: yep, we've had some turnover. what else can i fill you in on? i want to make sure we
21:43:41  <bardu>I'm with nodejitsu for a year now and very happy with their service, but if more people go then come that makes me nervous
21:43:58  <anoemi>'re giving our customers enough info to feel secure
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21:45:05  <anoemi>justicefries: you're saying that's what you currently intend to do? stick with an individual plan and add more drones?
21:45:48  <justicefries>anoemi: likely, until the cost/benefit of bigger drone instances makes sense.
21:46:59  <justicefries>I'd like to see joyent-based PostgreSQL, but that's separate.
21:47:25  <anoemi>justicefries: when we roll out business plans, we're going to begin limiting the number of drones you can put towards an app on the individual plans
21:47:32  <anoemi>to three
21:47:38  <justicefries>ahh
21:47:46  <justicefries>towards a single app, yeah?
21:47:53  <anoemi>right
21:47:58  <justicefries>that makes sense.
21:48:03  <justicefries>we'll see where I'm at once business plans are rolled out. ;)
21:48:34  <anoemi>sounds good :)
21:48:50  <justicefries>because I'm okay on 3 right now
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22:25:15  <jeffy>hello, total noob here. Does nodejitsu support Coffeescript? Are there any docs?
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22:25:48  <justicefries>sure.
22:25:55  <justicefries>in your main server.js file or app.js file:
22:25:59  <justicefries>require('coffee-script')
22:26:05  <justicefries>any requires you have that are in coffee-script will work.
22:26:17  <justicefries>(i don't know if you can just run the binary as an npm run script)
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22:28:11  <jeffy>nice! thanks!
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23:22:10  <yoman>Can someone help me understand this line from the FAQ "My application is open source but I can't share the passwords! Can I still use the Free Development Sandbox?"
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23:22:30  <yoman>is this inferring that we need to store our username/password for nodejitsu in plain text somewhere in the code?
23:23:13  <AvianFlu>no, it isn't
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23:23:45  <AvianFlu>that's talking about your database passwords or api keys for external services or things like that
23:24:25  <yoman>i see
23:25:11  <yoman>then maybe someone can explain what the development sandbox entails?
23:26:08  <AvianFlu>it's a 30-day trial of our individual plans
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23:26:53  <yoman>what's the catch though with the passwords?
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23:29:16  <AvianFlu>that's talking about how we host open-source apps for free, I think
23:29:31  <AvianFlu>if your app has credentials in the github repo you might not want to open-source it
23:29:33  <yoman>its a confusing section, it would be great if it could be fixed up
23:29:35  <AvianFlu>but there's ways to work with that
23:29:44  <AvianFlu>it's true, we're in the midst of a website overhaul now actually
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23:29:52  <AvianFlu>thanks for the feedback
23:30:03  <AvianFlu>we'll definitely add that section to the list
23:30:11  <yoman>there is no mention though of development sandbox === open source deployment
23:30:15  <yoman>ok great
23:30:22  <AvianFlu>those two things are not the same
23:30:38  <AvianFlu>the development sandbox is a 30-day trial, open or closed source, we don't care
23:30:50  <AvianFlu>if your app is open-source, though, we'll host it free for longer than that
23:30:52  <AvianFlu>that's the idea
23:31:10  <yoman>Ah ok, that is not mentioned anywhere
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23:32:52  <yoman>Im also having trouble understanding the automatic large plan
23:32:57  <yoman>Large $0.0042 / HOUR
23:33:25  <yoman>so is that 0.0042 * 24 hours * 30 days => $3 dollars a month?
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23:35:06  <AvianFlu>yeah
23:35:27  <AvianFlu>you pay a slight premium for the ability to add and remove as you please
23:35:38  <AvianFlu>as opposed to a set number of total drones available
23:36:37  <yoman>what premium? and what is the cost to add/remove?
23:38:46  <AvianFlu>there's no cost to add/remove
23:38:59  <AvianFlu>when I say premium, I mean the fact that it's back up to $3 a drone without a discount
23:39:03  <AvianFlu>the other plans have slight discounts
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23:42:23  <yoman>ok so if i were to get the 3dollar plan, i am stuck and can't say, put me on the 7 dollar plan this day because its getting busy?
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23:54:35  <justicefries>you can
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