19:26:35  * TheJHjoined
19:26:57  * lushiousjoined
19:31:32  * rei__gpart
19:31:52  * thepumpkinjoined
19:34:46  <st_luke>defunctzombie: do you use mocha?
19:34:54  <st_luke>I've been using vows but I'm not really sold on the syntax
19:36:10  <nathan7>mocha makes me quite happy
19:36:26  <nathan7>mocha + should makes writing tests fairly natural to me
19:36:41  <nathan7>Not usually a fan of that kind of syntax but it makes sense for tests
19:37:55  <julian_duque>nathan7: I use chai with mocha, it supports tdd and bdd syntac :)
19:38:00  <julian_duque>s/syntac/syntax
19:39:17  <nathan7>julian_duque: so?
19:39:22  <nathan7>julian_duque: should.js does the same thing
19:39:27  <nathan7>julian_duque: I don't want or need TDD
19:40:32  <nathan7>Though spies and stuff might prove useful
19:40:49  <nathan7>https://github.com/nathan7/node-lessmagic/blob/master/test.js could be a lot awesomer
19:42:27  <julian_duque>nathan7: good approach!
19:42:46  <nathan7>julian_duque: What exactly?
19:42:59  * retrofoxjoined
19:43:32  <julian_duque>what you are using in your test with only should
19:44:27  * clarkfischerjoined
19:45:31  <nathan7>julian_duque: It works well, yeah
19:46:04  <defunctzombie>st_luke: yea
19:46:11  <defunctzombie>st_luke: I use mocha with the qunit style usually
19:46:13  <mmalecki>node's assert ftw
19:46:25  <defunctzombie>I think mocha and tap are the two big ones at the monet
19:46:29  <defunctzombie>*moment
19:49:34  * admcjoined
19:49:47  <st_luke>I usually use tap for modules
19:49:59  * retrofoxquit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
19:50:02  <st_luke>cause it's nice and smiple
19:51:06  * thepumpkinquit (Remote host closed the connection)
19:51:48  * ramitosquit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
19:54:10  * thepumpkinjoined
19:54:33  * Proditor_changed nick to Proditor
19:59:26  * benv_quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)
19:59:34  <nathan7>I think I could be putting Sinon to good use in lessmagic's tests
20:00:20  * TheJHquit (Read error: Operation timed out)
20:03:09  * jcrugzzjoined
20:03:39  * retrofoxjoined
20:04:11  <konklone>my app just crashed and loggly's logs are still outdated
20:04:25  <konklone>could anyone look and see why it crashed? username: konklone, app: web
20:04:32  <konklone>I'm restarting it now
20:10:33  <nathan7>Man, someone ought to set the Loggly people on fire
20:10:36  * benv_joined
20:11:07  * ljharb_joined
20:11:11  * ljharbquit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
20:11:11  * ljharb_changed nick to ljharb
20:12:27  * st_lukequit (Remote host closed the connection)
20:15:22  <blakmatrix>konklone: Hi, is your app still in trouble?
20:15:58  <blakmatrix>nathan7: yes,, next week we are hoping o push our own logging service to production
20:16:26  <nathan7>blakmatrix: C=
20:19:28  * c4miloquit (Remote host closed the connection)
20:20:07  * gdonellijoined
20:21:42  * zz_shykeschanged nick to shykes
20:22:23  * nerd_emaquit (Quit: Page closed)
20:23:29  * st_lukejoined
20:24:11  <gdonelli>I would like to write cache file locally in my nodejitsu instance. I am looking for documentation about the restrictions and guidelines
20:24:56  <konklone>blakmatrix: I restarted it, it is fine, but I can't figure out why it crashed - the logs are behind
20:25:11  <konklone>blakmatrix: I know loggly is behind, but I'm wondering if someone can look on the box and see what happened
20:25:53  <blakmatrix>I'd have to track down the previous drone it was on
20:26:17  <blakmatrix>konklone: did it crash during the loggly outage?
20:26:26  * c4milojoined
20:26:30  * shykeschanged nick to zz_shykes
20:26:31  <konklone>it crashed right before I posted here in the room
20:26:36  <konklone>like <5 minutes before
20:26:43  <blakmatrix>konklone: whats the username/appname
20:26:45  <konklone>so ~3pm EST
20:26:50  <konklone>konklone/web
20:27:24  <blakmatrix>gdonelli: http://legal.nodejitsu.com/acceptable-use-policy
20:28:42  <konklone>huh - what is the "slug size" the AUP refers to at the bottom?
20:28:45  <konklone>haven't heard that term before
20:28:54  * ramitosjoined
20:29:04  <konklone>the size the app itself takes up on disk?
20:30:14  * retrofoxquit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
20:30:34  <gdonelli>I would like to same some files in /tmp
20:30:37  <gdonelli>can I do that?
20:30:51  <gdonelli>how much can I take up there?
20:31:10  <blakmatrix>gdonelli: you would be better off saving to "./tmp" less hassle
20:31:37  <blakmatrix>same amount
20:31:51  <gdonelli>is that what is raccomanded?
20:31:55  <gdonelli>save it in the app budle?
20:31:59  <gdonelli>*bundle
20:32:17  <gdonelli>does ./tmp gets cleared when the app starts?
20:32:24  <blakmatrix>gdonelli: yeah i its created during runtime
20:32:36  * indexzeroquit (Quit: indexzero)
20:32:45  <blakmatrix>gdonelli: anytime you deploy you'll hit a nw drone
20:33:17  <gdonelli>and a new ./tmp?
20:33:31  <gdonelli>and how much space I can used in there?
20:33:33  <gdonelli>2GB ?
20:33:38  * retrofoxjoined
20:34:03  * jipiboilyjoined
20:34:11  * TheJHjoined
20:34:20  * jipiboilypart
20:34:36  <blakmatrix>yeah
20:34:45  <blakmatrix>minus your app size
20:34:53  <gdonelli>cool
20:34:54  <blakmatrix>konklone: ummm
20:35:03  <blakmatrix>konklone: you sure your ap died?
20:35:11  <gdonelli>thank you very much
20:35:19  <blakmatrix>konk I looked at previous drone looks like its still running
20:36:26  <blakmatrix>konklone: nm... sec
20:36:46  <konklone>ok
20:39:22  * cronopioquit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
20:41:11  * r0tha_joined
20:43:04  * jmar777quit (Remote host closed the connection)
20:43:40  * jmar777joined
20:45:11  * zz_shykeschanged nick to shykes
20:46:58  * drunkgoatjoined
20:47:09  * danvoelljoined
20:47:11  * papachanjoined
20:48:12  * jmar777quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
20:48:27  <drunkgoat>can't read my application logs... it says "no logs for hangies-crud in specified timespan"
20:48:33  <blakmatrix>konklone: we're looking into it but it wasn't anything to do with your app... we think, sorry
20:48:35  <drunkgoat>which doesn't make sense
20:49:25  <blakmatrix>drunkgoat: loggly was down last night, you should have stuff now though, however loggly might be catching up
20:49:40  * cronopiojoined
20:50:04  <konklone>blakmatrix: thanks for looking into it. I hope the loggly issue can be fixed - in the meantime, I'll just have to add better monitoring.
20:50:35  <drunkgoat>blakmatrix: ok i'll wait and see... thanks
20:50:43  <blakmatrix>konklone: might suggest https://logentries.com/doc/nodejitsu/
20:52:34  * bradleymeckquit (Quit: bradleymeck)
20:53:11  <konklone>ooh
20:53:22  <konklone>yeah, I was also considering saving my logs in my redis store, too
20:53:38  * generalissimoquit (Remote host closed the connection)
20:54:40  <sberryman>has anyone attempted google's oauth2 server to server authentication?
20:55:58  * kuryaki1joined
20:56:09  <konklone>blakmatrix: their free account looks quite reasonable, actually
20:56:13  <konklone>I will probably use that
20:56:14  <konklone>thank you
20:57:56  * `3rdEdenquit (Remote host closed the connection)
20:58:05  <kuryaki1>heya im getting An error has occurred: {"code":"ECONNREFUSED","errno":"ECONNREFUSED","syscall":"connect"}
20:58:14  <kuryaki1>but logs are not showing anything
20:58:35  <blakmatrix>kuryaki1: what is your username/appname
20:59:02  <kuryaki1>kuryaki/feedsubscriber feedscriber.jit.su
20:59:12  <kuryaki1>blakmatrix: kuryaki/feedsubscriber feedscriber.jit.su
21:00:21  * jmar777joined
21:01:17  <kuryaki1>blakmatrix: and now is showing me something else that is not my app
21:01:19  <kuryaki1>:S
21:01:53  <kuryaki1>blakmatrix: back again
21:01:56  <blakmatrix>what do you see?
21:02:07  <kuryaki1>blakmatrix: back to my app
21:02:07  <konklone>(fwiw blakmatrix, that was the error I saw when I noticed my app had died)
21:02:34  <blakmatrix>konklone: its a pretty generic error
21:02:41  <konklone>yeah I know
21:02:54  <konklone>still, just giving you more info since they happened so close together
21:03:19  <kuryaki1>blakmatrix: am i doing something wrong? or is it a nodejitsu issue?
21:06:11  * lyaunzbequit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
21:06:15  * FrenkyNetjoined
21:08:04  <blakmatrix>kuryaki1: looks like your app was stopped previously... how many times hve you start and stopped your app ?
21:08:58  * gdonelliquit (Quit: gdonelli)
21:10:19  * r0tha_quit (Remote host closed the connection)
21:11:48  * jgomezquit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
21:13:24  <kuryaki1>blakmatrix: well i deployed a couple(3-4) of times in the last hour
21:14:38  <blakmatrix>kuryaki1: ah... ok.. well I'll attmept to try and track don the issue but it gets harder to find the longer it was ago and how many times you deployed since then
21:15:04  * switzjoined
21:15:12  <kuryaki1>blakmatrix: well i havent deployed since the error happened
21:15:32  * lyaunzbejoined
21:16:06  <blakmatrix>like for eexample I just looked at the previous drone your app was on and there was 3 apps logs I had to sift through before i found yours
21:16:20  <blakmatrix>kuryaki1: oh are yo usaing its happing on the drone right now?
21:16:40  <blakmatrix>the last deploy or have you started your app?
21:19:30  * stagas_joined
21:20:53  * stagasquit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
21:20:54  * stagas_changed nick to stagas
21:22:43  <kuryaki1>blakmatrix: it happened on this drone, because i havent either redeployed or restarted since the error happened
21:23:23  * hourbackquit (Remote host closed the connection)
21:23:25  * `3rdEdenjoined
21:24:39  * danvoellquit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)
21:25:46  <blakmatrix>kuryaki1: looking still
21:27:41  <AvianFlu>kuryaki1: the logs show no crashes since your last deploy, and not that many sockets or resources in use
21:28:01  <AvianFlu>are you seeing this consistently, or was this just for a moment
21:28:07  * julian_duquequit (Quit: Lost terminal)
21:28:58  <kuryaki1>ajap thats why it was weird :S, was just this time, it happened to me before(like yesterday) but logs showed me what i was doing wrong and was able to correct it, the weird thing about the issue today was that logs were still and pretty
21:30:35  <AvianFlu>yeah something funky must have happened, let us know if it happens again
21:31:28  <jesusabdullah>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJxVQz1nI4g what Bird does for fun
21:31:39  <jesusabdullah>apparently he eventually threw all of them on the floor
21:32:29  * joshonthewebjoined
21:33:18  * shykeschanged nick to zz_shykes
21:35:37  * jmar777quit (Remote host closed the connection)
21:36:13  * jmar777joined
21:40:39  * jmar777quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
21:42:55  * ngreenwood6quit (Quit: ~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~)
21:45:12  * TheJHquit (Remote host closed the connection)
21:55:37  * ppcanojoined
21:57:22  * TooTallNatequit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)
21:57:48  * TooTallNatejoined
22:00:08  * _sorensenquit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
22:02:02  * kevinohara80joined
22:03:19  * kevinohara80changed nick to kevino80
22:09:12  <kevino80>Who can I talk with at Nodejitsu about having someone come talk at our node event in Detroit?
22:10:43  <blakmatrix>anoemi: ^
22:11:05  <anoemi>kevino80: ohai!
22:11:25  <kevino80>anoemi: Hello!
22:12:06  <anoemi>can you hit me up with an email with the group, and when the event is, and other deets like that?
22:12:34  <anoemi>if its for this year we're probably booked, but we're figuring out speaking schedule stuff for 2013 :)
22:12:41  * lpinquit (Quit: Leaving)
22:12:44  <anoemi>its ana (at) nodejitsu
22:13:08  <kevino80>anoemi: Absolutely. It will be 2013. Email enroute.
22:13:44  <anoemi>cool :)
22:16:43  * anoemi_joined
22:17:02  * `3rdEdenquit (Remote host closed the connection)
22:17:42  * zz_shykeschanged nick to shykes
22:18:10  * anoemiquit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
22:18:10  * anoemi_changed nick to anoemi
22:20:53  * joshonthewebquit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
22:22:51  * joshonthewebjoined
22:29:45  * fatjonnyquit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
22:29:59  * hallasquit (Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"])
22:31:22  * fatjonnyjoined
22:33:31  * clarkfischerquit (Quit: clarkfischer)
22:35:45  <jesusabdullah>detroit eh?
22:36:07  * kevino80quit (Remote host closed the connection)
22:36:18  <jesusabdullah>sounds...dangerous
22:36:31  <jesusabdullah>good thing I have ranks in 'hood survival
22:40:15  <jesusabdullah>seriously though that sounds cool
22:47:18  * indexzerojoined
23:00:34  * stagasquit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
23:04:03  * shykeschanged nick to zz_shykes
23:04:20  * stagasjoined
23:06:22  * mmaleckichanged nick to mmalecki[zz]
23:07:29  <nathan7>Hi jesusabdullah
23:10:41  * ppcanoquit (Quit: ppcano)
23:10:45  * stagasquit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
23:11:21  * stagasjoined
23:15:25  <jesusabdullah>sup
23:15:27  * mdedetrichjoined
23:22:06  * FrenkyNetquit (Quit: ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"])
23:22:39  * bentaberjoined
23:25:01  * c4miloquit (Remote host closed the connection)
23:27:10  * bradleymeckjoined
23:27:43  <bentaber>Hey, question. Have an app where the web client says started, jitsu deploy from command line says failed, and I see "500 internal server error" when hitting my app via http. No logs spit out in the log viewer so hard to get any insight.
23:28:04  <bentaber>jitsu deploy error is: error: Error running command deploy error: Nodejitsu Error (500): Internal Server Error error: There was an error while attempting to deploy the app error: error: Error spawning drone
23:30:45  <AvianFlu>bentaber: can you put all that in a gist for us so we can see the whole thing?
23:31:18  <bentaber>sure.
23:32:18  <bentaber>https://gist.github.com/4157947
23:32:21  * zz_shykeschanged nick to shykes
23:32:40  <AvianFlu>bentaber: has this happened more than once?
23:33:27  <konklone>I see this error a lot myself
23:33:29  <bentaber>No, only once. Successful deploy immediately before with same code. Application appears to be running. But seeing no logs and a generic express error that I'm assuming is not coming from my app but an upstream proxy.
23:33:41  <konklone>sometimes it just means you need to deploy again
23:33:51  <konklone>and occasionally a third time ;)
23:34:16  <AvianFlu>yeah, try it again then
23:34:33  <AvianFlu>a few of those are due to a problem we're working on with joyent
23:34:45  <konklone>if it's helpful, I can say with reasonable confidence that the more the drones, the higher the chance of it happening
23:34:53  <konklone>redeploying an app with 5 drones is a painful experience
23:35:01  <bentaber>redeploying
23:35:53  <coderarizzz>if you draw 3 marbles out of a bag of red, green, and yellow marbles, there's a higher chance you'll get a red marble than just taking 1 marble out. I think this is why it's more of a problem with more drones
23:36:03  * c4milojoined
23:36:03  <konklone>ah gotcha
23:36:15  <bentaber>different error this time. https://gist.github.com/4157967
23:36:19  <konklone>so it's not that the extra drones extends the time of deployment and thus hits the timeout more
23:36:33  <konklone>it's that whatever problem afflicts drone deployment, all it takes is one for the whole deploy to fail
23:36:36  <AvianFlu>that's another one that will just happen occasionally
23:36:43  <bentaber>will run again ;)
23:36:49  <AvianFlu>that's rackspace cloudfiles being a little slow
23:38:23  <bentaber>3rd deploy worked. But what's more strange to me is that the app appears to be running from the webops view, but i can't see any logs.
23:38:36  <coderarizzz>konklone: btw, about to remove "start free drones" from your user doc, so you might have to scale down depending on what type of plan you have
23:38:43  <AvianFlu>our loggly logs will do this sometimes, we're not entirely sure why
23:39:04  <konklone>coderarizzz: I actually switched to the "Automatic" plan earlier today
23:39:18  <konklone>and, I also dropped the drones for that one to 1, since it's not being used while I do the socket.io->sockjs conversion
23:40:36  * retrofoxquit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
23:40:37  <coderarizzz>konklone: alright, sweet
23:41:02  <nathan7>AvianFlu: any progress on the payment front?
23:41:12  <bentaber>Any work arounds for viewing those logs? Delete the app?
23:42:40  <bentaber>have to step away...
23:45:16  * coderarizzzchanged nick to coderarity
23:47:26  * st_lukequit (Remote host closed the connection)
23:49:11  * Leeol2joined
23:50:23  * DTrejojoined
23:51:12  * defunctzombiequit (Remote host closed the connection)
23:51:37  * therealkoopaquit (Remote host closed the connection)
23:51:45  * defunctzombiejoined
23:52:24  * thepumpkinquit (Remote host closed the connection)
23:52:25  * Leeolquit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
23:53:09  * konklonepart
23:53:35  * c4miloquit (Remote host closed the connection)
23:55:35  * blakmatrix1joined
23:56:19  * defunctzombiequit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
23:56:20  * shykeschanged nick to zz_shykes
23:58:32  * sirkitreechanged nick to sirkitree|afk