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00:10:23  <Leo__>Hello, i know that this may seem a dumb question but... Is there anyway to "update" a console.log message?
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00:32:32  <mdedetrich>hi everybody!
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00:48:28  <blakmatrix>marciopuga: so many dark photos in http://thenewyork-now.jit.su/
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00:48:40  <marciopuga>SO MANY
00:48:45  <marciopuga>about the alerts
00:48:52  <blakmatrix>yeah
00:48:56  <marciopuga>every motherfucker in ny uploaded the same thing at the same time
00:49:08  <marciopuga>it's awesome to watch here
00:49:35  <blakmatrix>you should be sending your site out to news places heh :)
00:49:55  <blakmatrix>its liek webcams, people flock to watch
00:50:36  <blakmatrix>marciopuga: the photos with power out in manhatten look so eerie
00:51:50  <blakmatrix>kinda makes you wonder about the wireless cell networks and whatnot
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00:53:02  <marciopuga>outrageous
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02:51:22  <mmalecki>st_luke: hey, how's it going?
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02:52:18  <st_luke>pretty good
02:52:32  <mmalecki>you safe out there?
02:52:50  <mmalecki>Ana and crew lost their power
02:52:54  <st_luke>yeah just eating some ice cream on the couch
02:53:06  <mmalecki>way to spend a hurricane :)
02:53:12  <Sly>Well, most of the crew.
02:53:13  <Sly>;P
02:53:31  <mbalho>ana lost power? im like 10 blocks from her and have power
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02:54:10  <mmalecki>mbalho: well, she and Avian ping timeout'd, so yeah, I guess so?
02:54:18  <mbalho>dang
02:54:24  <Sly>Either power or internet.
02:54:24  <mbalho>i lost internet
02:54:33  <mbalho>im on my phone now
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02:54:37  <Nodejitsu-Github>haibu/master d2b50a1 Maciej Małecki: [dist] Bump `haibu-carapace` to `0.7.1`
02:54:37  <Nodejitsu-Github>haibu/master 5c855a0 Maciej Małecki: [dist] Bump version to 0.9.7
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02:54:39  <mbalho>but still have power
02:54:42  <mmalecki>that's a good point
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02:55:27  <mmalecki>I'm actually doing a deploy since more people are offline
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02:57:13  <mmalecki>mbalho: you're living in NY now btw?
02:57:19  <mmalecki>or just hanging out?
02:57:25  <mbalho>hangin
02:57:35  <mbalho>till this whole thing blows over
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02:58:24  <mmalecki>cool, cool
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03:00:11  <st_luke>this hurricane is seriously one of the top 10 boring things I've ever experienced in my life
03:00:29  <mbalho>go to lower manhattan
03:00:40  <mbalho>or anywhere near sea level and water
03:01:01  <st_luke>I walked out to east river park a few minutes ago but the gates are locked up
03:01:03  <mmalecki>publishing haibu@0.9.7
03:02:01  <mmalecki>PUBLISHED YO
03:03:36  <mmalecki>oh wait, it's 4 AM...
03:03:38  <mmalecki>dang
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03:05:17  <mmalecki>only thing I'm afraid that booze AvianFlu stocked up is gone at this point
03:05:31  <mmalecki>*is that
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03:08:33  <st_luke>im not really too concerned about the hurricane other than that i'll probably be a few days behind work and will have to deal with the corporate assholes that sign my paychecks
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03:09:13  <mmalecki>can't you work from home tho?
03:11:22  <st_luke>yeah, never really works out that well though
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04:07:24  <deoxxa[cookies]>hey yawnt[sleepah]
04:07:34  <deoxxa[cookies]>let's make a minecraft thing for nodejsconf.it
04:07:46  <deoxxa[cookies]>i've already started https://github.com/deoxxa/jsmc :3
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05:12:21  <jesusabdullah>I want a sweet node.js MC server
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05:12:45  <jesusabdullah>probably w/ bukkit + node-ish things chillin'
05:12:57  <jesusabdullah>daang
05:13:05  <jesusabdullah>that's cool, especially if it works XD
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05:16:36  <deoxxa[cookies]>jesusabdullah: bukkit is stupid
05:17:10  <jesusabdullah>y
05:17:12  <jesusabdullah>?
05:17:44  <deoxxa[cookies]>because it's the official server software that's been gutted and had stuff added in a completely ad-hoc way
05:17:55  <jesusabdullah>yup! XD
05:18:05  <deoxxa[cookies]>and it's only going to get worse since the main developers of bukkit are now mojang employees
05:18:13  <deoxxa[cookies]>they're just not good developers
05:18:15  <deoxxa[cookies]>it's that simple
05:18:18  <deoxxa[cookies]>like, they get stuff done
05:18:20  <jesusabdullah>harsh bro
05:18:22  <deoxxa[cookies]>but there's -no- planning
05:18:24  <jesusabdullah>totes harsh
05:19:10  <jesusabdullah>XD
05:19:33  <jesusabdullah>as long as I can run stock SMP on your node server with less ram usage
05:19:35  <jesusabdullah>I'm happy
05:19:41  <deoxxa[cookies]>ha
05:19:42  <deoxxa[cookies]>maybe
05:19:47  <jesusabdullah>well
05:19:51  <jesusabdullah>stock SMP anyway
05:20:09  <deoxxa[cookies]>each chunk is about 200kb of raw data
05:20:15  <deoxxa[cookies]>at its smallest size
05:20:31  <deoxxa[cookies]>the minimum number of chunks you can possibly have loaded is 49
05:20:39  <deoxxa[cookies]>more realistically you're looking at a couple of hundred
05:21:11  <deoxxa[cookies]>well i mean, i guess you could keep them around for less time
05:21:27  <deoxxa[cookies]>but then you incur disk lookup penalties
05:21:28  <deoxxa[cookies]>etc
05:21:54  <deoxxa[cookies]>i guess that's still only like ~40mb for 200 chunks
05:21:55  <jesusabdullah>yeah that makes sense
05:22:10  <jesusabdullah>I mean I would expect that, it just always felt like MC was a bit leaky in that regard
05:22:16  <deoxxa[cookies]>oh it definitely is
05:22:26  <deoxxa[cookies]>uses like 60% cpu and 2gb of ram with nobody online
05:22:28  <deoxxa[cookies]>it's ridiculous
05:23:11  <jesusabdullah>lol
05:23:27  <jesusabdullah>so yeah, if it's higher perf at *all* without like making the SMP experience stupid for some reason
05:23:31  <jesusabdullah>I'm totally down
05:23:42  <jesusabdullah>also a working node-based server would be ultra-hackable
05:23:47  <deoxxa[cookies]>yeah
05:23:59  <jesusabdullah>reading about bukkit plugins kinda bums me out
05:24:02  <deoxxa[cookies]>i was one of the original developers of mineserver, which was c++
05:24:08  <jesusabdullah>cause none of them do anything that really excites me y'know?
05:24:10  <jesusabdullah>oh no shit?
05:24:14  <jesusabdullah>woord
05:24:18  <deoxxa[cookies]>so i know how to optimise minecraft stuff
05:24:20  <deoxxa[cookies]>\o/
05:26:05  <deoxxa[cookies]>https://github.com/fador/mineserver and https://github.com/Mineserver/mineserver2
05:26:10  <deoxxa[cookies]>mineserver2 never really went anywhere
05:26:40  <jesusabdullah>cause bukkit?
05:26:46  <jesusabdullah>or cause in c?
05:27:13  <deoxxa[cookies]>nah, c++ is easy enough
05:27:18  <deoxxa[cookies]>but just because i got bored
05:27:24  <deoxxa[cookies]>and nobody else really wanted to take it up
05:27:29  <deoxxa[cookies]>jailout2k did for a bit
05:27:32  <deoxxa[cookies]>but he got bored too
05:27:43  <deoxxa[cookies]>it's a pretty tiring platform to support, minecraft
05:27:46  <jesusabdullah>I see
05:27:53  <jesusabdullah>bummeroids
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05:33:29  <wookiehangover>is it possible to use and of the --harmony options with nodejitsu?
05:35:38  <jesusabdullah>I don't think so
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05:38:05  <wookiehangover>double bummeroids
05:38:38  <wookiehangover>well that should like totally be a thing </lazy-web>
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05:39:06  <wookiehangover>I paid my $11 damnit, now get somebody on that
05:39:57  <jesusabdullah>I would if everyone weren't either asleep or being flooded out
05:40:02  <jesusabdullah>brb I require sustenance
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06:03:54  <Sly>Everyone doing okay in here?
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06:06:30  <jesusabdullah>hell yeah
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06:07:23  * deoxxa[cookies]bored
06:08:15  <Sly>deoxxa[cookies], <3
06:08:23  <Sly>I want cookies.
06:08:41  <Sly>Who saw where people in NY are flipping out about a crane hanging off of a building?
06:08:52  <Sly>ZOMGNOWAI
06:09:07  <Sly>Kinda what happens when you have a week in advance to do something about it and don't.
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06:13:07  <Sly>Weirdness. Even I lost internet. xD
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06:19:57  <Sly>Hey, mdedetrich.
06:20:27  <Sly>Oh, right. You pinged out.
06:21:01  <mdedetrich>yo
06:21:10  <Sly>Ah. You are here. :D
06:21:16  <mdedetrich>no I'm not
06:21:20  <mdedetrich>this is your imagination
06:21:26  <Sly>That's cool.
06:21:30  <deoxxa[cookies]>oooOOOOoooooOOOOOOOooooooooo
06:21:31  <Sly>I like talking to my imagination sometimes.
06:21:36  <Sly>Although it doesn't like to talk back.
06:21:37  <Sly>:'(
06:21:56  <deoxxa[cookies]>sounds like a pretty fail imagination
06:22:11  <Sly>It's all mdedetrich's fault.
06:22:14  <Sly>He's my imagination.
06:22:23  <deoxxa[cookies]>jeez mdedetrich
06:22:50  <mdedetrich>actually, thats because your brain cannot comprehend my awesomeness
06:23:01  <mdedetrich>so its limited to your imaginations limits
06:23:27  <deoxxa[cookies]>if you were really awesome you could express your awesomeness in a way that could be comprehended by anyone
06:23:33  <deoxxa[cookies]>such as breakdancing
06:23:57  <mdedetrich>breakdancing isn't that easy to comprehend
06:23:58  <mdedetrich>imho
06:24:46  <deoxxa[cookies]>lol
06:24:54  <deoxxa[cookies]>my boss is reading and re-reading a draft for a big important email
06:25:09  <deoxxa[cookies]>i keep telling him "just send it you pussy"
06:25:28  <deoxxa[cookies]>"screw it, just hit send, what are you scared"
06:25:32  <deoxxa[cookies]>lolol
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06:25:47  <deoxxa[cookies]>i'm a horrible person to have around when important stuff is happening
06:26:11  <Sly>What important stuff?
06:26:12  <Sly>The hurricane?
06:26:13  <mdedetrich>you see if I was your boss, I would tell you to read that email over and over again
06:26:17  <mdedetrich>until you can recite it word by word
06:26:20  <mdedetrich>for being a dick
06:26:34  <Sly>Oh, nevermind.
06:26:41  <Sly>Would help if I read what you were talking about. -_-;
06:27:06  <mdedetrich>that often helps
06:27:08  <mdedetrich>but not ALWAYS
06:27:09  <mdedetrich>remember that
06:27:32  <mdedetrich>my epic words of wisdom
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07:05:41  <bebensiganteng>hi, do you know why the deplyoment takes so long now? and out of 5 tries only 1 succeeded, is there something wrong with server?
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07:09:03  <Sly>christkv, I'm here.
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07:09:34  <Sly>bebensiganteng, are you getting an error when you try to deploy?
07:09:58  <bebensiganteng>it says 'socket hang up'
07:11:20  <Sly>What's the username/app?
07:12:16  <bebensiganteng>app is http://bebensiganteng.myapp.jit.su/ and un: bebensiganteng
07:12:47  <christkv>Sly: we got this from one of your users https://github.com/mongodb/node-mongodb-native/issues/751
07:12:52  <Sly>Is the name of the app "application-name"? I need the actual name, not the subdomain.
07:12:56  <christkv>Sly: but I can't seem to find any details
07:13:16  <christkv>Sly: and I've tested it with joyents smartos and it works with node 0.6 and 0.8
07:13:17  <Sly>jesusabdullah, ping
07:15:51  <Sly>christkv, I honestly have no idea. I don't know anything about MongoDB.
07:16:58  <christkv>Sly: I think the problem is one that's fixed in the last driver and has to do with keepAlive being completely broken under sunos
07:17:15  <christkv>Sly: it just hangs the socket if set
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07:18:18  <jesusabdullah>what's up Sly ?
07:18:43  <jesusabdullah>bebensiganteng: did you fix your app?
07:19:07  <jesusabdullah>Sly: his app is bebensiganteng/bebensiganteng
07:19:42  <jesusabdullah>christkv: linker errors
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07:19:50  <as_>I'm getting the same error actually, when i try to deploy
07:19:58  <bebensiganteng>ow, you remember me ;) yes i did..thanks, but the deployment time is really painful and with occasional crashes as well, is there a way to speed things up..
07:19:59  <as_>"connect ECONNREFUSED
07:20:04  <jesusabdullah>christkv: you'd want to talk to AvianFlu or mmalecki about this, but yes, it's due to linker errors in 64 bit
07:20:05  <Sly>jesusabdullah, you sure? I see "application-name" in the logs.
07:20:12  <jesusabdullah>he might've changed the name of it
07:20:16  <Sly>bebensiganteng, are you talking about "application-name" or "bebensiganteng"?
07:20:20  <jesusabdullah>I'd go with application-name
07:20:26  <bebensiganteng>ow sorry, "name": "application-name",
07:20:26  <Sly>jesusabdullah, nah.. he's got a bebensiganteng too.
07:20:30  <jesusabdullah>ah
07:20:39  <bebensiganteng>yes that was my old stuff..
07:21:03  <bebensiganteng>everything's fine now, except the deployment time..
07:21:31  <christkv>jesusabdullah: can you provide me some contact info, I don't have a nodjitsu setup to test this stuf
07:21:35  <christkv>stuff
07:21:51  <jesusabdullah>christkv: devops@nodejitsu.com
07:22:36  <Sly>bebensiganteng, the last socket hangup I see for "application-name" was due to bcrypt.
07:22:46  <bebensiganteng>what is that?
07:23:15  <Sly>A dependency that was required at some point.
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07:23:44  <bebensiganteng>ah, okay.. is there a way for me to fix it? sorry i'm rather new with node.js stuff..
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07:24:35  <Sly>Well, it looks like it's started now.
07:25:38  <Sly>That error looks like it's an old error, because I see socket.io handshakes and such in logs.
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07:26:27  <bebensiganteng>so what should i do? i'm still tying to deploy something..
07:26:46  <Sly>What are you trying to deploy?
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07:27:15  <Sly>That application?
07:27:31  <as_>Is this the right place to get help? I keep getting the error: Error running command deploy connect ECONNREFUSED
07:27:44  <Sly>as_, what's the username and app name that you're getting the error on?
07:28:50  <jesusabdullah>as_: I can help you
07:28:57  <jesusabdullah>Sly: you concentrate on bebensiganteng
07:29:16  <jesusabdullah>as_: Can you tell me your username, app name and show me a gist of jitsu's output?
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07:29:51  <bebensiganteng>you guys are the best tech-support ever!
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07:31:08  <jesusabdullah>as_: username, app name and gist of jitsu's output?
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07:31:57  <Sly>bebensiganteng, thanks for the compliment. We appreciate it. Is your app currently deployed like it should be?
07:32:20  <as__>username is ashishpuliyel, appname is pollrunner https://gist.github.com/64c5b0bb9b8949d41778
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07:32:41  <bebensiganteng>no, just got a bug weird bug.. still checking..
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07:34:50  <bebensiganteng>i just wanted for the deployment time to be much more faster, debugging is so painful right now..
07:35:08  <jesusabdullah>as__: where's the rest of it? I need the boring parts too
07:35:47  <as__>sorry. updated
07:35:47  <alucardX>morning
07:36:16  <Sly>bebensiganteng, there's nothing that can really speed up deployment times. We have to store a snapshot for you when you deploy your application, so it's all dependent on how quick the server can do what it needs to do.
07:36:21  <as__>I was wondering if it was a connectivity issue on my end
07:36:34  <bebensiganteng>i see...
07:36:43  <bebensiganteng>ok then, thanks!
07:36:57  <Sly>bebensiganteng, when you deploy it has to find the snapshot, install the dependencies on the drone, and then start the app.
07:37:17  <Sly>There's quite a bit that happens during a deploy.
07:38:32  <jesusabdullah>okay as__ I see a few attempted deploys that returned 500s, taking a look at one of those now
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07:40:19  <jesusabdullah>as__: How long does it take for your app to spawn an http server from npm start?
07:40:26  <jesusabdullah>as__: I see one error that says "too long"
07:40:31  <jesusabdullah>which usually means "won't
07:40:32  <jesusabdullah>"
07:40:34  <jesusabdullah>but not always
07:40:51  <jesusabdullah>if you're trying to run some kind of build step or batch job before spawning the http server that's a no-go
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07:42:34  <as__>nope. I'm not running anything special. What's wierd is the errors seem to change. You're right i saw the time out error a few times, and now i see this. I'll try again and time it
07:44:43  <jesusabdullah>you get like 5 seconds so
07:44:50  <nathan7>jesusabdullah: oi
07:44:55  <nathan7>jesusabdullah: How's the progress on gitness?
07:44:57  <jesusabdullah>if you spawn .listen on the first tick you're g2g
07:45:04  <jesusabdullah>oh shit nathan7 we were gonna talk about that huh?
07:45:12  <jesusabdullah>nathan7: what do we need exactly, you think?
07:45:15  <jesusabdullah>I figure, we have pushover
07:45:19  <jesusabdullah>I wrote pullover
07:45:29  <jesusabdullah>we can expose an api using typical means
07:45:41  <nathan7>mhm
07:46:02  <jesusabdullah>hmm
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07:47:11  <as__>Right now, I'm getting the error I linked to in the gist. Which is it creates the snapshot. goes to updating app and then give me error running command deploy. connect econnrefused.
07:47:34  <as__>which means it's not getting to the point where it's trying to run the app.
07:47:43  <as__>Right?
07:48:13  <jesusabdullah>hmm
07:48:15  <jesusabdullah>yeah, I think so
07:48:16  <jesusabdullah>ugh
07:48:22  <jesusabdullah>these logs are not showing your error
07:48:29  <jesusabdullah>maybe it's failing in snapshot storage
07:48:35  <jesusabdullah>I hear cloudfiles is being a turd
07:48:50  <jesusabdullah>have you had any luck deploying? or has it been consistently crashing on you?
07:48:53  * jesusabdullahlooks at deps again
07:49:30  <jesusabdullah>as__: are any of those deps old?
07:49:44  <jesusabdullah>as__: older versions of redis break due to hiredis not compiling nicely on 64 bit sunos
07:49:57  <jesusabdullah>oh, no, 0.8.x is new
07:50:30  <jesusabdullah>as__: what happens if you do all your semvers with all 3 numbers instead of just the first 2? Like, instead of "~3.0" do "0.3.x" or similar
07:50:46  <jesusabdullah>as__: I'm just wondering if our build server is getting confused by that
07:50:57  <as__>None of them are more than a week old. Whats wierd is if i try deploy 5 times in a row, it'll work eventually.
07:51:05  <as__>I'll try amending the deps.
07:51:09  <jesusabdullah>a'ight
07:51:19  <jesusabdullah>yeah, we might just be getting boned by cloudfiles connectivity issues
07:51:28  <jesusabdullah>especially if it works every 6th time
07:52:21  <as__>Ok. Thanks. I'll give it a rest and try again a bit later.
07:52:31  <as__>Anywhere I can monitor the cloudfiles connectivity status?
07:52:42  <jesusabdullah>nathan7: I can hack up a basic push/pull prototype tomorrow, maybe throw some basic auth on it
07:52:47  <jesusabdullah>nathan7: we have a name for this dude?
07:53:51  <nathan7>jesusabdullah: piston!
07:53:55  <jesusabdullah>as__: unfortunately I'm not aware of any?
07:53:58  <jesusabdullah>hah, why piston? XD
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07:54:27  <nathan7>jesusabdullah: like minecraft sticky pistons
07:54:31  <nathan7>jesusabdullah: they can push and pull (;
07:54:51  <as__>Right. Thanks!
07:54:56  <jesusabdullah>haha, I dig it
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07:57:51  <deoxxa[cookies]>hey
07:58:01  <deoxxa[cookies]>jesusabdullah: minecraft -> fknsrs.biz:25565
07:58:08  <deoxxa[cookies]>or anyone else with minecraft
07:58:15  <deoxxa[cookies]>it's running https://github.com/deoxxa/jsmc :3
07:58:24  <deoxxa[cookies]>and it's probably prone to crashing, haha
07:58:29  <deoxxa[cookies]>but it'll restart itself
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08:07:40  <deoxxa[cookies]>yayyyyy
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08:58:51  <syskk>what hell happened to marak? his twitter stream seems a bit incoherent
08:59:24  <nathan7>deoxxa[cookies]: coo
08:59:38  <nathan7>deoxxa[cookies]: Does it have inventory and shit yet?
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09:21:32  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/flatiron/revalidator/compare/df6a8b550c37...c31254d18426
09:21:32  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/flatiron/revalidator/builds/2985385
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09:22:06  <bebensiganteng>hi guys, i keep getting this error "error: Error running command deploy error: socket hang up" any idea why?
09:22:08  <bebensiganteng>thanks
09:22:34  <yawnt>bebensiganteng: hey, can i see your package.json and full jitsu's output?
09:22:37  <yawnt>thanks :D
09:23:14  <nathan7>Hi yawnt
09:23:49  <bebensiganteng>this is my package.json https://gist.github.com/3979213
09:24:20  <bebensiganteng>and my jitsu output https://gist.github.com/3979217
09:24:35  <yawnt>hey nathan7, sup :)
09:25:00  <yawnt>bebensiganteng: how big is your app?
09:25:33  <bebensiganteng>22mb .. is that big?
09:25:50  <nathan7>yawnt: Life and stuff
09:26:26  <yawnt>should be fine, bebensiganteng.. can you try to set socket.io's version to https://github.com/LearnBoost/socket.io/tarball/master and redeploy?
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09:28:15  <bebensiganteng>hmm how do i use that? sorry i'm really new on node.js stuff, can u give me a dumb version on how to use it
09:28:59  <yawnt>bebensiganteng: no prob, in your package.json, where you have "socket.io": "*", it becomes "socket.io": "https://github.com/LearnBoost/socket.io/tarball/master"
09:29:02  <yawnt>:)
09:29:26  <bebensiganteng>ah, awesome.. thanks!
09:29:32  <bebensiganteng>ok redeploying
09:29:39  <yawnt>thanks :)
09:31:38  <bebensiganteng>still processing...
09:34:17  <bebensiganteng>arrggh.. is crashing again x(
09:35:25  <bebensiganteng>help please..
09:36:17  <yawnt>http://bebensiganteng.myapp.jit.su/
09:36:23  <yawnt>^ bebensiganteng works for me :)
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09:36:47  <yawnt>you just hit a bad drone :P
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09:42:27  <bebensiganteng>that's the old version..
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09:43:08  <bebensiganteng>ok i'm redeploying again
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09:47:19  <bebensiganteng>same error..
09:48:21  <yawnt>bebensiganteng: we're looking into it
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09:49:19  <bebensiganteng>yes, please.. thanks
09:52:27  <yawnt>bebensiganteng: can you try again please?
09:53:32  <bebensiganteng>ok.. redeploying ..
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09:55:13  <deoxxa[cookies]>nathan7: nope, nothing much yet
09:55:32  <bebensiganteng>it worked!.. well hopefully that wasnt just by chance, thanks!
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09:55:53  <yawnt>bebensiganteng: you're welcome :)
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09:56:33  <yawnt>deoxxa[cookies]: ping ping :(
09:56:42  <deoxxa[cookies]>PONG LOL
09:56:47  <yawnt>deoxxa[cookies]: what's the jsmc thing
09:56:54  <yawnt>Y U NO README
09:57:06  <deoxxa[cookies]>READMEs are for idiots
09:57:08  <deoxxa[cookies]>!!!
09:57:13  <deoxxa[cookies]>nah, i'm just lazy
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09:57:29  <deoxxa[cookies]>but basically it's a minecraft server written in javascript
09:57:38  <yawnt>oh
09:57:39  <yawnt>nice
09:57:39  <deoxxa[cookies]>using the binary data handling libraries i did on the weekend
09:57:46  <yawnt>how does it work?
09:58:03  <deoxxa[cookies]>well it's a bit of a mess at the moment
09:58:09  <deoxxa[cookies]>i'm currently refactoring it out to plugins/modules
09:58:21  <yawnt>nice
09:58:22  <yawnt>do want
09:58:30  <deoxxa[cookies]>nearly done :)
09:58:31  <yawnt>looks lighter than the default java stuff
09:58:39  <yawnt>:P
09:58:42  <deoxxa[cookies]>waiting for a friend at starbucks, let's see how much i get done before he gets here
09:58:44  <deoxxa[cookies]>haha
09:59:09  <yawnt>:(
09:59:10  <yawnt>starbucks
09:59:16  * yawntdoesn't have starbucks in italy
09:59:28  * yawntloves starbucks' frappuccinos and donuts
09:59:37  <deoxxa[cookies]>it's easier to explain how to get here than how to get to any of the other places nearby
09:59:38  <deoxxa[cookies]>haha
09:59:43  <deoxxa[cookies]>my japanese is quite limited
09:59:48  <deoxxa[cookies]>and this dude doesn't speak a lot of english
10:00:16  <yawnt>yeah sure
10:00:19  <yawnt>your japanese is limited
10:00:25  <yawnt>said the one that watches jappo anime
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10:00:36  <yawnt>i just understand like
10:00:48  <yawnt>hajimemashite
10:00:48  <kenniyu>hey guys, would anyone know how to tail the jitsu logs?
10:00:51  <yawnt>wakarimashita
10:00:51  <deoxxa[cookies]>aniki, onegai
10:00:53  <yawnt>atm :(
10:01:47  <deoxxa[cookies]>> hajimemashite! conrad to moushimasu ga, yoroshikereba, cj to itte kudasai :)
10:02:07  <yawnt>kenniyu: webops has realtime updates for logs
10:02:13  <yawnt>in jitsu it's a work in progress feature
10:02:55  <yawnt>KUDASAI
10:02:58  <yawnt>i got kudasai
10:03:10  <yawnt>i really need someone to speak with
10:03:12  <yawnt>:(
10:03:23  <yawnt>ANYONE FROM JAPAN HERE?
10:06:39  <booyaa>no, but aren't there chat websites where you can practice?
10:06:47  <booyaa>the names escape me
10:10:05  <kenniyu>how come retrieving logs takes so long
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10:20:06  <deoxxa[cookies]>yawnt: lol
10:20:27  <deoxxa[cookies]>yawnt: hang out with japanese girls, it's a cheap and fun way to practice your japanese :)
10:21:40  <yawnt>yeah
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10:21:46  <yawnt>cause i live near japan
10:21:50  <yawnt>SO MANY jAPANESE GILS HERE
10:21:53  <yawnt>*GIRLS
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10:22:23  <booyaa>yawnt: you're not in the swiss or italian alps are you?
10:22:34  <deoxxa[cookies]>there's plenty of japanese girls in .it
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10:23:11  <yawnt>booyaa: i am
10:23:13  <yawnt>deoxxa[cookies]: nop :(
10:23:24  <deoxxa[cookies]>that's a shame
10:23:26  <deoxxa[cookies]>there's plenty in .au :3
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10:23:33  <yawnt>WELL THANK YOU
10:23:38  <yawnt>you live in the same ocean dammit
10:23:47  <yawnt>i live in the other part of the globe
10:23:51  <deoxxa[cookies]>np
10:23:59  <deoxxa[cookies]>i pushed the plugin stuff for jsmc, btw
10:24:02  <deoxxa[cookies]>go, go, look
10:24:10  <deoxxa[cookies]>it kind of works
10:25:00  <deoxxa[cookies]>i'll have to provide some kind of configuration for this thing though i think
10:25:11  <deoxxa[cookies]>or maybe just distribute it as "feel free to screw with server.js"
10:25:18  <deoxxa[cookies]>server.example.js
10:28:43  * standoopart
10:28:53  <nathan7>deoxxa[cookies]: nconf, yo
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11:17:06  <iam1nsane>hihi, can anyone help me with nodejitsu logs?
11:17:28  <iam1nsane>iam logging with winston console - on local machine it works pretty well
11:17:45  <iam1nsane>but it does nothing on nodejitsu platform
11:17:49  <iam1nsane>no logs availabla
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11:34:03  <mmalecki>it'll take a while
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11:41:30  <iam1nsane>?
11:41:44  <iam1nsane>it'll take a while for logs to be available?
11:42:26  <mmalecki>yeah
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13:29:17  <jose__>There is no way I can't use my credit card with nodejitsu, it is perfectly fine, it is not expired, it has credit, etc. I use it everywhere and i use it online for lot of thins , but dont know why I get 2046 from nodejitsu
13:29:18  <jose__>:(
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13:35:00  <mmalecki>jose__: not sure what might be causing it, have you tried checking with your bank?
13:42:46  <jose__>calling now
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13:47:28  <deoxxa[cookies]>nathan7: it's not as simple as "load these things" though :<
13:47:40  <flybyme>how would i use winston with haibu?
13:47:52  <deoxxa[cookies]>nathan7: people are going to want to mess with a bunch of things, and i think the most flexible way to do that is by saying "sure thing, go screw with server.js"
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13:51:21  <jose__>they said that the card is perfectly fine, and my card hasnt any rejected operation... i dont know
13:51:38  <nathan7>I really have to figure out haibu
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14:06:41  <iam1nsane>pf,, still no logs
14:07:00  <iam1nsane>i need them nearly realtime
14:07:13  <iam1nsane>seems that i should store it somewhere else
14:07:17  <iam1nsane>and its weird
14:07:23  <iam1nsane>mongo
14:07:26  <iam1nsane>capped collection
14:07:40  <iam1nsane>and stream them to some local file
14:07:42  <iam1nsane>really weird
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14:16:36  <Pinkman>hello there
14:17:30  <Pinkman>i am wondering, if the drones are using shared memory, so each of them can see the entire memory, or they use different areas ?
14:21:08  <iam1nsane>drones - are separate processes
14:21:21  <iam1nsane>as it said on the main page of the service
14:21:35  <iam1nsane>processes cant have shared memory
14:21:38  <coderarity>drones aren't using shared memory?
14:21:52  <coderarity>drones are processes run on different virtual servers
14:22:32  <coderarity>the "shared virtual core" thing is handled at the virtual server level
14:22:33  <iam1nsane>A drone is an individual unit of computing power. When you deploy an application to Nodejitsu you get one drone (a single process).
14:22:48  <coderarity>iam1nsane: yes, it's a single process, on it's own virtual machine
14:22:48  <iam1nsane>single process = no shared memory
14:23:31  <Pinkman>so is there a best practice using socket.io ? because i think, that when i use socket.io with muliple drones, the msgs may not reach there target, because different drones will proccess them
14:23:54  <iam1nsane>use some other transport for messages
14:23:56  <coderarity>Pinkman: you can tell socket.io to put sessions on something like redis
14:24:01  <iam1nsane>like redis
14:24:06  <Pinkman>yes, i wanna use redisstore
14:24:15  <Pinkman>but i can't get it working
14:25:01  <Pinkman>when i try to make an instance of redisstrore, and givet to to socket.io, redisstore throws an error
14:25:29  <Pinkman>that
14:25:34  <Pinkman>ready check failed
14:25:51  <Pinkman>if i know well, it is beacuse the redisclients arent ready
14:25:54  <Pinkman>am i right ?
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14:38:51  <`3rdEden>Pinkman: sounds a lot like a socket.io issue to me
14:39:22  <`3rdEden>it could be that the RedisStore isn't working with the latest redis client.. idk
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14:45:06  <iam1nsane>the most disappointing thing in the service is logs: "You don't have any application logs yet"
14:45:13  <iam1nsane>not realtime, not even closer
14:45:15  <iam1nsane>...
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15:04:11  <iam1nsane>now logs work
15:04:12  <iam1nsane>wtf
15:04:13  <iam1nsane>really
15:04:19  <iam1nsane>...
15:04:26  <mmalecki>loggly tends to be slow
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15:55:20  <Sly>Everyone doing okay in heree?
15:55:22  <Sly>*here
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16:11:09  <Sly>Anyone need help?
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16:44:04  <kevindente>I'm still getting "Nodejitsu Error (500): Internal Server Error" during the app startup part of a deploy, as I was yesterday
16:44:41  <Sly>kevindente, what's the username/app that you're trying to deploy?
16:44:53  <kevindente>username is kevindente. app is gtp
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16:48:38  <Sly>kevindente, it looks like your app is properly started right now. How long ago was it that you got this error?
16:49:12  <jaha>Sly: got a suggestion for a smaller node email client, your servers dont seem to like nodemailer, cant get an app to start with it, socket timeouts
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16:50:22  <Sly>jaha, uh.. what?
16:50:24  <Sly>O_o
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16:51:12  <kevindente>Sly: about 3 minutes ago. It's running the old version of the app, not the new version I'm trying to deploy
16:51:30  <Sly>jaha, we don't provide any modules other than the standard Node modules when you deploy. Anything else is all dependent upon the developer. If you want to use something other than nodemailer, that's definitely your choice.
16:51:43  <jaha>sorry, nodemailer the npm pkg, email client, its got a 20 meg dep (mimelib) and currently it is practically impossible to deploy anything with a 10+ meg dep on nodejitsu
16:51:51  <Sly>kevindente, strange. I don't see a recent 500 for you. Can you try deploying again while I'm watching the logs?
16:52:10  <kevindente>Sly: I'll do it right now
16:52:10  <jaha>Sly: yea, i was just asking your opinion on a new one that perhaps youve tested with jitsu
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16:52:28  <Sly>jaha, ah. Okay. I was confused on what you were asking about.
16:52:34  <kevindente>Sly: in progress...
16:52:36  <jaha>i tend to do that
16:53:03  <Sly>jaha, I don't personally know any that you could use or have a preference. Perhaps someone in #Node.js can give you some to look into.
16:53:40  <Sly>kevindente, did you get a 500 error with that one?
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16:53:57  <kevindente>Sly: still going. Now says "Starting app"
16:54:22  <kevindente>Sly: OK error
16:54:34  <Sly>Can you gist the complete output for me?
16:54:36  <Sly>http://gist.github.com
16:55:18  <kevindente>Sly: https://gist.github.com/3981509
16:55:57  <Sly>kevindente, okay. I didn't see any 500 error for you.. so I'm not sure why that's showing up. I did get a socket hangup for you, though. One second. Looking into it.
16:56:49  <Sly>kevindente, okay. Try again for me.
16:57:11  <kevindente>Sly: deploying...
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16:58:29  <Sly>kevindente, let me know when it's done or if it throws an error.
17:01:02  <kevindente>Sly: this time I got a "client request timed out". I've already bumped up the timeout to 720000
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17:03:11  <Sly>kevindente, alright. That time I actually got an error for you that was related to your app.
17:03:15  <Sly>kevindente, one minute.
17:04:18  <Sly>kevindente, https://gist.github.com/16a42188fcaac9234b69
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17:04:50  <Sly>kevindente, my guess is that your problem is the same problem as jaha was experiencing with "mime" being, according to jaha, 20MB in size.
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17:05:39  <jaha>mimelib*
17:06:40  <Sly>kevindente, if I were you.. I would do `rm -rf node_modules` in the directory that you have your app in, and then do `npm install` to reinstall what you have in package.json.
17:06:56  <Sly>kevindente, then if it fails you'll know that you left something out.
17:06:57  <jaha>Sly: so what can we do to get thses things to deploy? there are a lot of common npms out there with 10+ meg deps
17:07:14  <kevindente>Sly: wait, are you saying that "mime" is timing out the deployment during the npm install?
17:07:39  <Sly>kevindente, no. "mime" isn't being found in another module. Meaning that NPM didn't install it.
17:07:57  <Sly>That's why I said to `rm -rf node_modules` and then `npm install`.
17:08:03  <Sly>Then try to run it locally to see if you left something out in package.json.
17:08:12  <kevindente>Sly: but I've done successful deployments previously. This wouldn't have changed recently
17:08:34  <Sly>kevindente, there may have been a change in the dependencies. You do have a pretty lenient range in your package.json.
17:08:45  <Sly>kevindente, most of the versions I saw in your package.json were '>= 0'
17:08:59  <kevindente>Sly: true
17:09:04  <Sly>kevindente, the code base for those dependencies could have changed.
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17:09:56  <kevindente>Sly: Though it looks like the failing module is connect, which uses "mime", and that uses "~1" as its version.
17:10:11  <kevindente>Sly: OK, I'll try a fresh NPM install and see what happens
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17:16:33  <yawnt>jaha: hey
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17:16:39  <yawnt>how can i help you?
17:17:11  <Sly>kevindente, how's it going?
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17:18:06  <kevindente>Sly: hang on still testing. Seeing a different weird problem
17:18:34  <Sly>kevindente, cool. Just wanted to see if you figured it out. :)
17:19:35  <jaha>yawnt: well just still having problems with deploying anything that has a larger dependency. I know you guys are working on some regression with the build servers or whatnot but I need some immediate solutions because the deployment is constantly failing and taking 5 min each time (my connection here isnt the greatest so upload is slow, but getting a lot of timeouts on app starting stage)
17:20:38  <yawnt>jaha: node_modules isn't uploaded with your app, except if you use bundledDeps.. how big is your application without node_modules? also can i see your package.json and jitsu's full output?
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17:22:39  <Sly>kevindente, just keep me updated.
17:23:50  <jaha>yawnt: https://gist.github.com/3981675, npm pack sze is ~10meg
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17:29:15  <yawnt>jaha: are you compiling less in your code?
17:29:25  <yawnt>or before deploy?
17:30:35  <jaha>node is compiling and im caching
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17:31:43  <jaha>so it compiles on app start
17:32:24  <yawnt>jaha: it'd be better if you compiled that stuff before you deploy..
17:33:25  <yawnt>jitsu has pre-deploy hooks
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17:37:50  <jaha>yawnt: where are the docs on the pre-deploy
17:38:02  <yawnt>jaha: can you paste me the output of `jitsu config get timeout` ?
17:38:47  <yawnt>jaha: https://github.com/nodejitsu/jitsu#jitsu-hooks
17:39:05  <jaha>https://gist.github.com/3981759
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17:40:15  <yawnt>jaha: can you try to increase that number? because your app from what i can see is properly deployed (http://hydrochem.aquilex.com/)
17:40:48  <yawnt>jaha: `jitsu config set timeout <number in milliseconds>` .. you could try with 420000
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17:42:26  <jaha>yawnt: ive tried deploying a couple times since we've been chatting, does the timeout include the uploading time?
17:42:50  <RabidFire>hey guys. does nodejitsu automatically handle graceful restarting of node apps? Or, do we have to handle SIGTERM in our app?
17:43:15  <RabidFire>or, is there some other preferred way of gracefully restarting? :)
17:43:19  <yawnt>RabidFire: forever ensures that your app runs continously
17:43:36  <RabidFire>sure, but it doesn't gracefully shutdown apps, does it?
17:43:46  <RabidFire>my app could be in the middle of a database call
17:44:26  <yawnt>jaha: yes
17:44:38  <kevindente>Sly: Sorry. After I clean node_modules and npm install, my app starts up fine for me. No errors
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17:44:53  <Sly>kevindente, were you able to deploy it?
17:44:54  <kevindente>Sly: Is that error you showed me happening during startup?
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17:45:35  <Sly>Yes, kevindente.
17:46:25  <AvianFlu>RabidFire: if the app exits, forever restarts it
17:46:26  <AvianFlu>but if the app exits at a bad time, that's just that
17:47:04  <RabidFire>so, the "Restart" button in the nodejitsu dashboard is connected to "forever restart" I'm guessing
17:47:20  <kevindente>Sly: that time is deployed succesfully. I don't get it
17:47:35  <jesusabdullah>RabidFire: naw, haibu's restart
17:47:41  <RabidFire>aah
17:47:47  <RabidFire>so haibu handles graceful restarts then?
17:47:49  <Sly>kevindente, not sure.
17:48:07  <jesusabdullah>as graceful as a restart can be
17:48:09  <jesusabdullah>I guess
17:48:36  <kevindente>Sly: deploying again just to be sure it wasn't a fluke
17:49:18  <RabidFire>jesusabdullah: my worry is that the app might be in the middle of a request when a restart occurs.
17:49:30  <kevindente>Sly: deploying again just to be sure it wasn't a fluke
17:49:38  <Sly>kevindente, alright.
17:49:48  <jesusabdullah>RabidFire: oh, well, it's up to you to handle anything before the process.exit
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17:50:16  <RabidFire>jesusabdullah: ah, ok, so process.on('SIGTERM', … etc is recommended?
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17:50:33  <RabidFire>jesusabdullah: or is there some other recommended tip from nodejitsu :)
17:50:42  <jesusabdullah>I mean
17:50:53  <jesusabdullah>if you want to do special cleanup on sigterm, then yeah
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17:51:14  <jesusabdullah>probably more useful is the 'uncaughtException' event
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17:52:23  <doubletap>jesusabdullah: i am getting that there are no open connections for mongodb. is there any action you or mongohq might have taken that i should be aware of?
17:53:08  <jesusabdullah>we didn't do anything
17:53:18  <doubletap>ok
17:53:27  <jesusabdullah>if mongohq did anything they didn't tell me
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17:55:10  <doubletap>i just started my app
17:55:22  <doubletap>how many is too many?
17:55:36  <yawnt>that's something you gotta ask monohq
17:55:38  <yawnt>*mongohq
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18:05:40  <doubletap>with the sandboxed mongohq plans, are we registered with our user's from nodejitsu at mongohq?
18:05:56  <doubletap>in other words, can I use my nodejitsu credentials to log in at mongohq?
18:06:38  <yawnt>doubletap: no, mongohq is another provider
18:07:13  <doubletap>i get that but since you guys partner on the db thing, i thought maybe. ok, i will talk to them about migrating my data to a paid plan.
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19:12:09  <ferlores>hi guys, someone around here?
19:13:32  <yawnt>yes?
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19:22:09  <doubletap>migrating from the nodejitsu sandboxed db to the paid mongohq db was so simple and required like 5 clicks and a couple minutes.
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19:23:45  <yawnt>doubletap: awesome ^_^
19:24:21  <doubletap>i agree. thank you nodejitsu and mongohq for creating a great partnership and equally great services.
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19:26:30  <doubletap>I think I asked this question before but I do not remember the answer. Can I deploy a single file instead of the whole package?
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19:29:02  <doubletap>jesusabdullah: Once I get this deploy done, i will be off the nodejitsu sandboxed dbs. Can I deploy a single file instead of the whole package?
19:30:02  <doubletap>must be lunch time.
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19:39:05  <yawnt>doubletap: what do you mean?
19:39:45  <doubletap>i meant if i wanted to deploy only someFile.js rather than everything in the directory, how would i do that.
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19:42:37  <jesusabdullah>unfortunately there isn't a good way to do that doubletap
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19:45:01  <doubletap>jesusabdullah, yawnt: no worries. i just went for it and it worked out :) my db is no longer in the nodejitsu sandbox
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19:47:42  <jesusabdullah>doubletap: congrats! :)
19:48:07  <yawnt>+1
19:49:06  <Altereagle>Is there anyone here that uses jitsu through c9?
19:49:25  <kevindente>Sly: just FYI, if I set --noanalyze deployments and app restarting work fine on my original app (without the cleaned node_modules)
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19:50:38  <gildean>kevindente: maybe installing the dependencies takes too long so the deployment times out on your end?
19:50:56  <gildean>just a guess, i have no idea how jitsu works in that case
19:51:29  <gildean>does the server send some info that it's deploying and the client should wait until there's some feedback
19:51:38  <Sly>kevindente, awesome.
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19:55:17  <kevindente>Sly: still a little bit unnerving though. I'd feel more comfortable if I actually understood what was going on
19:55:37  <Sly>kevindente, you and me both. The only thing I saw was that module failing.
19:55:37  <kevindente>gildean: yeah, I don't know enough about what jitsu is doing. Maybe I need to go read the source. ;)
19:57:26  <gildean>or maybe jesusabdullah could tell us more about it
19:57:34  <jesusabdullah>what's your question?
19:57:51  <jesusabdullah>Altereagle: I don't use c9, I hear jitsu works but sometimes it's a pain
19:58:50  <gildean>jesusabdullah: does the server send some intermitten data while deploying, like first acknowledge that it's deploying now
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19:59:07  <gildean>or does it just happen, and if it takes too long, the client times out?
19:59:18  <jesusabdullah>we try to return useful data for sure
19:59:22  <jesusabdullah>sometimes that doesn't work out too well
19:59:32  <jesusabdullah>you can figure out which stage it failed at by looking at jitsu's output
19:59:51  <jesusabdullah>like, if the last thing it says is, "creating snapshot" before error then it failed while creating snapshot
20:00:09  <jesusabdullah>we have a build server that works pretty well but the errors don't propogate quite as well as I would like
20:00:47  <mmalecki>there's this thing about node which surprised me
20:01:05  <mmalecki>it's pretty bad at maintaining long-standing network connections
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20:01:24  <gildean>mmalecki: how's so?
20:01:27  <mmalecki>(if no data goes through)
20:01:46  <mmalecki>gildean: well, those socket hang ups people see, are broken network connections which timed out
20:02:28  <mmalecki>we try damn hard to keep them alive
20:02:34  <mmalecki>but sometimes node just closes them
20:02:34  <gildean>hmm, well it depends on what is used for the protocol in between the client and server
20:02:39  <mmalecki>http
20:03:26  <gildean>ok, well http depends on some data sent or it will close the connection
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20:03:51  <mmalecki>those issues will be soon gone tho :)
20:04:09  <gildean>moving jitsu to websockets or something?
20:04:35  <gildean>or just writing your own message-protocol?
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20:05:53  <mmalecki>adding more data to the protocol
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20:06:21  <mmalecki>as in, more communication between servers and jitsu
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20:30:46  <gildean>mmalecki: just an idea, but the connection between server and jitsu-client could be made with websockets
20:31:15  <gildean>checking the connection status would be trivial and timeouts would happen only if the server or client couldn't actually answer
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20:37:23  <fearphage>i was wondering if i could help with or get someone to take some pull requests from a nodejitsu project
20:38:23  <yawnt>fearphage: what do you mean?
20:38:30  <fearphage>i'd be happy to see them close the pull requests as won't fix as well. anything besides ignoring them would be optimal https://github.com/nodejitsu/node-cloudfiles/pulls
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20:39:03  <fearphage>just seeing if we could get some movement on that project. good pull requests are just sitting around doing nothing
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20:42:06  <fearphage>yawnt: any thoughts or ideas?
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20:43:25  <jesusabdullah>fearphage: I'll ask around, see if I can get someone to review at least some of them
20:43:55  <fearphage>jesusabdullah: sounds outstanding. thank you
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21:02:30  <mmalecki>gildean: that's not a bad idea
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21:06:00  <gildean>mmalecki: yeah i thought so too
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23:01:00  <bengourley>Hello AvianFlu: how's it going? Did you manage to make any sense of the issue I was having with st serving the wrong files?
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23:39:50  <Sly>Everyone doing okay in here? Any problems?
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23:59:04  <mikeumus>Hey Gang, power back on at the casa in Hamilton (central NJ) New Jersey
23:59:11  <mikeumus>and so back to work
23:59:23  <chilts>good stuff
23:59:44  <mikeumus>yeah, signed up for the Red Cross as well, likely be helping in NYC.