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01:56:52  <hector>MOTD
01:59:44  <coderarity>it's /topic
01:59:56  <coderarity>if you're looking for something in this channel, anyways
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03:05:32  <mdedetrich>hi everybody
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03:12:03  <Sly>Hey, mdedetrich.
03:12:17  <pthoresson>hi, i have a question regarding this error {"bytesParsed":0,"code":"HPE_INVALID_CONSTANT"}
03:12:21  <mdedetrich>I just read this
03:12:23  <mdedetrich>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haesindang_Park
03:12:25  <mdedetrich>I'm like wtf
03:12:55  <Sly>What? You don't like a park full of penises?
03:14:32  <mdedetrich>I love a park full of penisis man
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03:19:35  <mdedetrich>man I never thought I would say that
03:23:15  <Sly>lol
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04:13:55  <jesusabdullah>pthoresson: what context is that in?
04:22:01  <pthoresson>jesusabdullah: calling running server from corona simulator with :send(message), the server is listening as per server.listen(9001, "127.0.0.1");
04:24:31  <coderarity>don't listen on 127.0.0.1, listen on 0.0.0.0
04:24:46  <pthoresson>jesusabdullah: im just do socket.write back with an incremented value. just trying to get my head around socket and mobile, im obviously missing something ;)
04:25:05  <pthoresson>ok, thanks, ill try
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05:56:53  <mikeschinkel>Looking for debugging support on nodejitsu. Is there some way to see console.log() output?
05:57:32  <jesusabdullah>mikeschinkel: jitsu logs app
05:58:06  <mikeschinkel>Is app literal or name of my application?
05:59:12  <mikeschinkel>Nevermind, figured it out. Thanks.
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06:00:02  <jesusabdullah>mikeschinkel: literal :)
06:02:04  <ubacoda>Why does a tcp net connection close straight away? Am I right in thinking that they only run on port 80?
06:03:30  <ubacoda>I guess I should explain what I'm trying to do first.
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06:05:12  <jesusabdullah>ubacoda: we also only do http, not raw tcp
06:05:19  <ubacoda>I have a flash client that used to connect to a tcp server at joyent. Joyent has now recommended that I move over to nodejitsu as they are closing down their no.de accounts. My app is still in development by the way. The code that used to work on my no.de account does not working on a nodejitsu account and I cannot...........
06:05:21  <jesusabdullah>ubacoda: this is because we use an http proxy
06:05:22  <ubacoda>oh
06:05:44  <ubacoda>does that mean that I'm just out of luck?
06:05:48  <ubacoda>What are my options?
06:05:49  <jesusabdullah>you can make tcp connections, you can't listen for them
06:06:16  <jesusabdullah>can the flash client make tcp connections to arbitrary servers or do you need to proxy it?
06:06:26  <jesusabdullah>like, does it complain about cross-site?
06:06:30  <ubacoda>Need a proxy Im afraaid
06:06:37  <ubacoda>Yes, big time
06:06:40  <jesusabdullah>can you use websockets instead?
06:06:51  <jesusabdullah>I've heard of people proxying websockets to tcp connections
06:06:55  <jesusabdullah>it will require some research
06:07:35  <jesusabdullah>another option is to run your http server on joyent directly like you do the tcp server, if we can't meet your needs
06:07:48  <ubacoda>I tried node-amf which is a nodejs amf socket, but ...
06:08:02  <jesusabdullah>I mean, as far as your nodejitsu app proxying raw tcp, you're out of luck unfortunately
06:08:03  <ubacoda>when a function is called it needs to return a value
06:08:16  <jesusabdullah>I'm not familiar with amf
06:08:33  <ubacoda>this causes a problem when trying to access a database because it is asyncronous.
06:08:38  <ubacoda>excuse my spelling
06:08:42  <ubacoda>ok
06:08:53  <ubacoda>I guess I'm stuck then
06:09:21  <jesusabdullah>if you're already running a tcp server on joyent it would seem to me that setting up your webserver with them wouldn't be much of a leap
06:09:30  <jesusabdullah>I hate to turn you away of course, just trying to help you out
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06:10:20  <ubacoda>Yes, I understand. Thank you. I was just hoping to have something to develop on and pay once my app is released. My app could take up to a year to complete. It's rather a big project.
06:10:39  <ubacoda>These beta accounts are very useful for development
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06:10:54  <ubacoda>Anyway...
06:10:58  <ubacoda>thanks for your help
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06:12:08  <jesusabdullah>you're welcome ubacoda
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06:19:18  <mikeschinkel>Is there a way to clear the log? (Sorry for the n00b question, but I learn quick.)
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08:23:09  <Nodejs_user>Hi there
08:23:33  <Nodejs_user>Does anybody help me with my probkem?
08:23:36  <yawnt>sure
08:23:39  <yawnt>what's up ? :)
08:23:41  <Nodejs_user>*problem
08:23:53  <Nodejs_user>ve created an account on http://nodejitsu.com and now I'm trying to confirm it by using instructions in confirmed email message. Bacause I'm behing a proxy I use the follows command at first:
08:23:59  <Nodejs_user>jitsu config set proxy http://[MY_HTTP_PROXY_IP]:[MY_HTTP_PROXY_PORT]/
08:24:13  <yawnt>does your proxy require authentication?
08:24:18  <Nodejs_user>But after the command above I still get an error like this:
08:24:23  <Nodejs_user>info: Welcome to Nodejitsu info: jitsu v0.9.8 info: It worked if it ends with Nodejitsu ok info: Executing command users confirm [MY_USER_NAME] [MY_GEN_CODE] info: Confirming user [MY_USER_NAME] help: For help with this error contact Nodejitsu Support: help: webchat: <http://webchat.nodejitsu.com/> help: irc: <irc://chat.freenode.net/#nodejitsu> help: email: <support@nodejitsu.com> help
08:24:30  <Nodejs_user>no
08:24:36  <yawnt>please.. for more than 3 lines, use gist.github.com
08:24:47  <yawnt>anyway you're the one that opened the issue on jitsu right?
08:24:50  <Nodejs_user>https://github.com/nodejitsu/jitsu/issues/333
08:24:59  <Nodejs_user>yes
08:25:02  <Nodejs_user>it's me
08:25:20  <Nodejs_user>can you help?
08:26:01  <Nodejs_user>Where can see a logs of connection to your server?
08:26:41  <Nodejs_user>Are you still here?
08:26:54  <yawnt>unfortunately right now pretty much everyone is asleep.. as soon as they wake up i'll make sure that your problem is solved
08:27:15  <Nodejs_user>wow. Whre are you from?
08:27:27  <Nodejs_user>I'm working at now :)
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08:27:31  <yawnt>i'm frmo italy
08:27:37  <yawnt>but most people are from the US
08:27:38  <Nodejs_user>Russia
08:27:47  <yawnt>so UTC-7 to UTC-9
08:28:18  <Nodejs_user>are you developer of nodejitsu ?
08:28:35  <yawnt>i've worked on some of their code, yes
08:29:27  <Nodejs_user>I want to use this hosting for my critical project but sone palns dont available now, what's problem?
08:30:04  <Nodejs_user>"These plans will be available for purchase in the next month."
08:30:40  <yawnt>yes, currently it's in free mode
08:30:57  <yawnt>but paid plans will be available pretty soon for business critical applications :)
08:31:21  <Nodejs_user>Is it serious hosting or just for fan?
08:31:43  <yawnt>i'd use it for business app
08:31:59  <yawnt>actually i'm launchin an app pretty soon and i'll host in on nodejitsu
08:32:10  <Nodejs_user>What do you thing about heroku.com ?
08:32:18  <yawnt>heroku is good if you use ruby
08:32:26  <yawnt>but their nodejs support kinda sucks compared to nodejitsu
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08:32:47  <Nodejs_user>I use nodejs for my backend
08:33:17  <yawnt>i mean.. they don't even have websockets support
08:33:34  <Nodejs_user>Why do they provide the very expensive price? http://www.heroku.com/pricing#0-0
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08:34:17  <yawnt>i don't know, i don't work there.. you might wanna ask in #heroku for explanations
08:34:19  <Nodejs_user>Your prices is very low
08:34:20  <yawnt>:P
08:34:36  <Nodejs_user>Can you ask at some questions more?
08:34:43  <yawnt>sorry?
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08:35:17  <Nodejs_user>I have a couple question about your hosting, do you have a time for asking?
08:35:20  <yawnt>sure
08:35:21  <yawnt>ask ahead
08:35:49  <Nodejs_user>What's about robust, I mean if my nodejs code is down
08:35:57  <Nodejs_user>is break
08:36:13  <yawnt>every app is automatically restarted in case of a crash in your code
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08:36:39  <Nodejs_user>ok, what's about DDos attacks?
08:37:36  <yawnt>i'm not sure about that.. i think it's better if you ask to the devops who manage the infrastructure about that.. so you can have more precise answers
08:38:20  <Nodejs_user>ok I'll ask later. Does the hosting have any trafic limit?
08:38:40  <yawnt>no
08:38:47  <yawnt>not as of now
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08:39:00  <Nodejs_user>in a future?
08:40:05  <yawnt>i don't think so, but i can't tell for sure.. i'm not in charge of those decisions :)
08:40:13  <Nodejs_user>Can I switch to Business Plans after free account without changing my code?
08:40:35  <yawnt>yes
08:40:55  <Nodejs_user>YAHOO!
08:40:59  <yawnt>yahoo?
08:41:06  <Nodejs_user>cool!
08:41:08  <yawnt>haha
08:41:10  <yawnt>:P
08:41:20  <Nodejs_user>sorry for my pure english
08:41:43  <yawnt>no problem, i'm not a native speaker either
08:42:02  <Nodejs_user>How often you sit at the chat?
08:42:24  <yawnt>it depends.. usually around 6-8 hours a day
08:42:36  <yawnt>but there is almost always someone from nodejitsu online
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08:42:45  <Nodejs_user>Is it your job?
08:42:54  <yawnt>i'm a student
08:43:10  <Nodejs_user>realy, how old is you?
08:43:13  <yawnt>19
08:43:40  <Nodejs_user>26
08:43:58  <ubacoda>Quick question. I know MongoDB cloud instances can be connected to but does nodejitsu support mysql database connections too?
08:44:01  <Nodejs_user>Did you go to Russia?
08:44:21  <yawnt>ubacoda: yes, if you have an external provider like MongoHQ for mongo
08:44:31  <yawnt>(or you roll your own solution)
08:44:36  <ubacoda>Can you recommend any to get me started please?
08:45:07  <yawnt>amazon has its relational db as a service
08:45:17  <yawnt>it's called Amazon RDS
08:45:21  <ubacoda>They are really expensive though right?
08:45:36  <yawnt>not really
08:45:36  <wibuni>good morning :)
08:45:39  <yawnt>hai wibuni
08:45:53  <yawnt>ubacoda: also heroku has postgresql if you don't strictly need mySQL
08:46:03  <wibuni>mysql should reach for "normal" apps without much user data ;)
08:46:05  <ubacoda>Oh ok. Thanks. I shall check them out.
08:46:06  <yawnt>i've been using nodejitsu w/ heroku's postgre happily
08:46:42  <yawnt>ubacoda: there is also other stuff, like google's etc.. if you google "cloud sql" it'll give you a ton of services to choose from
08:46:43  <ubacoda>How many concurrent connections do you think it would take to actually cause trouble for a nodejitsu instance?
08:46:51  <Nodejs_user>What is a drones?
08:46:56  <ubacoda>or a db for that matter?
08:47:13  <yawnt>it depends on the app, but i know of application supporting thousands of concurrent websocket connections without problems
08:47:45  <yawnt>Nodejs_user: a drone is a unit of computing power
08:47:47  <ubacoda>Really, that is encouraging. Is that on a paid plan, and if so, what is it called?
08:47:48  <wibuni>Nodejs_user: a drone is an instance with its own userspace, limited to RAM
08:47:53  <wibuni>ah, too slow :D
08:47:57  <yawnt>http://nodejitsu.com/paas/faq.html
08:48:04  <yawnt>here you can find more infos if you need .)
08:48:18  <wibuni>ubacoda: what are you willing to save at the db?
08:48:24  <ubacoda>Thank you very much.
08:48:33  <yawnt>you're welcome :)
08:48:37  <ubacoda>Save? Just user data
08:49:05  <wibuni>what data?
08:49:09  <wibuni>just email, name, ...
08:49:09  <ubacoda>When a user does something in the app, data is sent to the db and save. Kind of like keeping a user state or configuration.
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08:49:34  <ubacoda>No, a lot more. But it will not all be sent at once. Just updated over time
08:49:54  <ubacoda>And the connection doesn't have to be persistent.
08:50:04  <ubacoda>It's actually for a game
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08:50:11  <ubacoda>The state of the game would have to be saved.
08:50:31  <ubacoda>Where players moved objects, what objects are being upgraded, how many credits they have, etc.
08:50:48  <wibuni>hm, you could do a persistent connection within the node process, so you don't have to reconnect each time a user saves
08:51:26  <ubacoda>Yes, that is probably best, huh? I thought as much
08:51:49  <ubacoda>I'm just a little worried about how much stress the server and db can take.
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08:52:05  <ubacoda>I know a lot of games that use PHP servers and are slow as hell
08:52:33  <ubacoda>that's not to say PHP is bad or anything, but when you get to a certain number of concurrent users....
08:52:33  <Nodejs_user>Do I need to embded you logo to use my own domain name?
08:52:59  <wibuni>Nodejs_user: no!
08:53:18  <ubacoda>Anyway, thanks for the help guys. Guess I've got some researching to do.
08:53:46  <Nodejs_user>I've read the faq: < "Yes you can and it does not cost you anything. If you want to be nice you can add a "Powered by Nodejitsu" logo."
08:54:08  <wibuni>Nodejs_user: only "if you want" ;)
08:54:14  <ubacoda>Oh oh, something that just popped into my head but...
08:54:20  <Nodejs_user>thanks
08:54:45  <ubacoda>can nodejitsu connect to a mysql db on a web server for instance, or does it have to be in the cloud?
08:54:56  <yawnt>ubacoda: anywhere that is connected to the net
08:55:06  <wibuni>ubacoda: php is slow everywhere. and with mysql connections it gets even slower ;) no, you should be able to connect to every server in the world ;)
08:55:08  <ubacoda>Great. Thanks a lot.
08:55:12  <yawnt>you could even host yourself the mysql server in your garage
08:55:16  <wibuni>lol
08:55:18  <yawnt>and nodejitsu would communicate with it anyway
08:55:19  <yawnt>:)
08:55:20  <ubacoda>haha
08:55:28  <yawnt>(yes, done that.. i had a webserver in my bedroom)
08:55:34  <yawnt>proud pentium 3
08:55:50  <ubacoda>Thats good to know. And I know PHP is slow, I just didn't want to offend anyone.
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10:40:19  <yawnt>back
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10:47:23  <deoxxa>FRONT LOL
10:47:29  <deoxxa>i'm so funny
10:47:40  <yawnt>AHHA
10:47:48  <yawnt>I WONDER WHY YOU'RE NOT A COMEDIAN
10:48:27  <deoxxa>because i'm too real
10:48:28  <deoxxa>TOO REAL
10:48:33  <yawnt>TOO WHEEL?
10:48:37  <deoxxa>2 wheels
10:48:39  <deoxxa>i'm a motorcycle
10:48:43  <deoxxa>brrrrrm
10:48:58  <deoxxa>so yeah, motorcycles can't be comedians
10:48:59  <deoxxa>:<
10:49:54  <yawnt>LOL
10:50:00  <yawnt>TELL THAT TO 'CARS' MAN
10:50:04  <yawnt>I HEARD GREAT JOKES THERE
10:50:18  <deoxxa>the only joke there was that they tried to sell tickets to that crappy movie
10:50:27  <yawnt>cars is great
10:50:31  <yawnt>you no dare call it crappy movie
10:50:32  <yawnt>anyway
10:50:38  <yawnt>i'm D/L @ 19 kb/S
10:50:46  <yawnt>I FEEL THE SPEED BRAH
10:52:53  <deoxxa>damn it
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10:53:04  <deoxxa>i was trying to find a picture of some guy in sunglasses with wind coming out of his monitor
10:53:08  <deoxxa>so just imagine that for me, k?
10:53:20  <deoxxa>like thrillhouse
10:53:52  <deoxxa>http://gamedrunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/thrillhouse2.jpg
10:53:57  <deoxxa>that'll do
10:54:06  <yawnt>lol
10:54:13  <yawnt>why do you need that?
10:54:32  <yawnt>this is how i imagine you deoxxa
10:54:33  <yawnt>http://f.cl.ly/items/2T1n0j2Z1C2N2K150i3p/programming.gif
10:56:00  <deoxxa>http://i.imgur.com/Tay2A.jpg << me
10:56:07  <yawnt>o
10:56:08  <yawnt>no
10:56:12  <yawnt>my pic is moar lulz
10:56:16  <yawnt>*PROGRAMMING*
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10:59:32  <Ivshti>Hello, I have been hosting an app on nodejitsu, but running it locally for 20 days or something, and when I tried to deploy it today, I get errors that it cannot connect to the database (alex.mongohq.com)
10:59:56  <yawnt>Ivshti: can i see your package.json? it's most probably an issue with mongodb
11:00:04  <yawnt>paste it here.. http://gist.github.com
11:00:36  <Ivshti>I don't think it is - when I run it locally, it's all OK
11:00:42  <Ivshti>it connects to the database and everything
11:00:50  <Ivshti>and my database was created using jitsu mongodb create
11:01:08  <Ivshti>again, on alex.mongohq.com:10018
11:01:35  <Ivshti>But this is my package.json https://gist.github.com/3851954
11:02:01  <yawnt>yep
11:02:03  <yawnt>it's the mongodb issue
11:02:09  <yawnt>it appears only on SunOS
11:02:18  <yawnt>ok so what you have to do is
11:02:31  <yawnt>into your project directory
11:02:41  <yawnt>cd into node_modules/mongoskin
11:02:54  <Ivshti>yes?
11:03:13  <yawnt>now
11:03:22  <yawnt>edit the package.json
11:03:36  <yawnt>and change the mongodb version to 1.1.7
11:03:46  <yawnt>then run npm install in mongoskin/
11:04:24  <yawnt>tell me when you're done
11:04:25  <yawnt>:)
11:04:59  <Ivshti><= 1.1.7 is what I put
11:05:06  <yawnt>that's fine too
11:05:09  <Ivshti>the default was < 1.2.0
11:05:11  <yawnt>yes
11:05:16  <yawnt>now run npm install in mongoskin/
11:05:23  <yawnt>it should replace the mongodb version with 1.1.7
11:05:26  <Ivshti>I'm done
11:05:30  <Ivshti>now do I deploy?
11:05:37  <yawnt>no
11:05:44  <yawnt>now you go into your main project folder
11:05:48  <yawnt>and in your package.json
11:06:02  <yawnt>you add bundledDependencies: ['mongoskin']
11:06:15  <Ivshti>should I remote the entry in dependencies of mongoskin?
11:06:29  <yawnt>no, i don't think so
11:06:49  <yawnt>now you can run `jitsu deploy`
11:09:07  <Ivshti>it works, thanks
11:09:19  <yawnt>pleasure
11:09:22  <yawnt>if you need anything else
11:09:23  <yawnt>just ask :)
11:10:09  <deoxxa>i need about tree fiddy
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11:15:51  <yawnt>deoxxa: ?
11:16:01  <yawnt>sigh
11:16:04  <deoxxa>(i'm the loch ness monster)
11:16:06  <yawnt>i forgot headphones at home
11:16:09  <yawnt>can't listen to music
11:16:12  <yawnt>MY LIFE IS EMPTY
11:16:16  <deoxxa>eep
11:16:18  <deoxxa>that's harsh
11:16:20  <yawnt>yeah
11:16:25  <yawnt>i'm in the school library
11:16:30  <yawnt>can't do "TUNZ TUNZ"
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11:30:13  <yawnt>*sigh*
11:30:15  <yawnt>my headphones
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11:39:44  <Nexxy>yawnt you can make some!
11:39:56  <yawnt>Nexxy: ;_;
11:40:56  <Nexxy>wat
11:41:16  <yawnt>i need
11:41:17  <yawnt>headphones
11:41:20  <yawnt>*headphones*
11:42:22  <Nexxy>mezzomix is so whack
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12:27:02  <ubacoda> Cannot find module 'mongoose'. Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong during the deploy phase?
12:27:54  <Gottox>forgot npm install?
12:27:59  <yawnt>ubacoda: sure :), you need to add 'mongoose'
12:28:02  <yawnt>to your package.json
12:28:06  <yawnt>in the dependency section
12:28:17  <yawnt>see http://package.json.jit.su for a complete example
12:29:09  <Gottox>whoops, thought this was #node.js :D
12:29:13  <ubacoda>Oh, I was adding it to the engines section. Haha
12:29:28  <ubacoda>Thanks yawnt
12:29:32  <yawnt>ubacoda: welcome
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12:36:26  <sorenso>Hi :)
12:36:33  <yawnt>hi :D
12:36:42  <sorenso>I'm having some problems deploying.
12:36:43  <sorenso>https://gist.github.com/3852285
12:37:24  <yawnt>let's see
12:37:29  <sorenso>I'm totally new to nodejitsu, and need some help :P
12:37:50  <yawnt>can i see your server.js?
12:37:56  <sorenso>Yes, 2 sek
12:38:03  <yawnt>thanks
12:39:21  <sorenso>Here it is: https://gist.github.com/1cdb3192665316ed5a06
12:39:34  <yawnt>sorenso: i can't see it
12:39:37  <yawnt>is it private perhaps?
12:39:44  <sorenso>Hmm, let me check.
12:40:39  <sorenso>https://gist.github.com/3852305
12:40:51  <sorenso>I think I hit the wrong button :(
12:40:51  <yawnt>mh
12:40:53  <yawnt>can't see
12:40:57  <yawnt>perhaps gist has issues
12:40:58  <yawnt>use this
12:40:59  <yawnt>pastebin.com
12:41:36  <sorenso>http://pastebin.com/2n093shz
12:41:57  <yawnt>sorenso: show me your package.json too please
12:42:30  <sorenso>http://pastebin.com/S8M441tLhttp://pastebin.com/S8M441tL
12:42:34  <sorenso>http://pastebin.com/S8M441tL
12:42:40  <sorenso>Sorry.
12:42:57  <yawnt>ok so
12:43:09  <yawnt>you need to add dependencies to your package.json
12:43:14  <yawnt>otherwise
12:43:24  <yawnt>node doesn't know where to find modules :)
12:43:41  <sorenso>Ok
12:44:18  <yawnt>wait a sec
12:44:18  <sorenso>Then I need dependencies for cluster and dgram?
12:44:34  <yawnt>no
12:45:08  <yawnt>sorenso: the problem is cluster
12:45:10  <yawnt>you can't run it on jitsu
12:45:22  <sorenso>Ok :)
12:45:46  <sorenso>I tried to search for cluster and nodejitsu problems but couldn't find any.
12:45:54  <yawnt>why would you run it anyway?
12:46:48  <sorenso>I'm not sure. It seems like a good idea to have more processes to distribute to the load over..?
12:47:07  <yawnt>but jitsu already does that
12:47:12  <yawnt>i mean.. it has its own system
12:47:29  <sorenso>Ok, then I'll rewrite this little test module and try again.
12:47:32  <yawnt>also
12:47:40  <yawnt>nodejitsu atm supports http only
12:47:46  <yawnt>so you need to have an http server listening
12:48:25  <sorenso>So a udp server is out of the question here?
12:48:58  <yawnt>yep
12:49:11  <sorenso>Ok, good to know :)
12:49:35  <sorenso>I'm playing around with a server logging concept using udp packages for speed.
12:49:43  <sorenso>And scaling
12:50:17  <sorenso>But thanks for excellent support :)
12:51:08  <yawnt>you're welcome, sorry for the dependencies part.. i read a line wrong and thought it wasn't a core package :(
12:51:34  <sorenso>That's fine :) No, problem.
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13:01:38  <mbalho>sorenso: you shouldnt spend too much time on premature optimization, logging doesnt have that much overhead in node, just ask the voxer team
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13:02:50  <sorenso>mbalho: Ok, good to know :)
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13:07:17  <deoxxa>sorenso: we push thousands of http requests per second at work with just a handful of boxes
13:07:34  <deoxxa>each request being roughly analogous to a log message
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13:13:25  <sorenso>deoxxa: Thanks for the info. All the logging is from php-processes. I want to use UDP due to it's connectionless protocol. If the log server does not respond it will result in all the php-processes waiting for the logserver.
13:13:47  <sorenso>When using TCP.
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14:11:14  <tralamazza>sorenso: waiting or not should not be about tcp or udp
14:12:42  <skieter>Is there a restriction on temporary file storage on nodejitsu?
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15:18:16  <field>has anybody run into problems using socket.io with custom domains?
15:19:07  <field>I keep getting Failed to load resource: the server responded with a status of 500 (Internal Server Error)
15:19:13  <field>http://pictochatty.com/science
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15:24:49  <damien___>hi
15:25:22  <damien___>I have a quick question about confirming my acount. I installed jitsu but it wont let me run the "jitsu users confirm" command in the terminal?
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15:26:10  <field>i don't think anyone from nodejitsu is here unfortunately
15:26:18  <field>i'm waiting around for support too
15:26:24  <damien___>ooh ok, thanks anyway i gues
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15:26:50  <gildean>doesn't help to quit right away tho'
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15:27:18  <gildean>field: your link is working if you're asking about it?
15:27:40  <mmalecki>davidbanham1: what do you mean?
15:27:47  <mmalecki>er...
15:27:48  <mmalecki>eh.
15:27:58  <Sly>lol.
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15:28:05  <mmalecki>davidbanham1: sorry, I meant damien___
15:28:12  <Sly>He already left.
15:28:15  <Sly>Impatience and all.
15:28:38  <Sly>:|
15:28:43  <mmalecki>field: do logs indicate anything?
15:29:10  <field>gildean: if you look at the console from that page, you'll see some socket.io errors
15:29:17  <field>"GET http://pictochatty.com/socket.io/1/?t=1349710069577 500 (Internal Server Error) "
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15:30:33  <gildean>field: but only some fail, while most work?
15:31:11  <field>on my end everything is failing
15:31:24  <field>all of the socket.io requests
15:31:58  <coderarity>only on custom domains/
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15:32:00  <coderarity>?*
15:32:01  <gildean>i get at least two working requs, then a failure
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15:32:23  <coderarity>maybe your app is crashing, if that ^ is the case
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15:33:09  <field>hmm, i wasn't having this problem before i switched it to a custom domain, maybe i'll try switching back and see if it persists.
15:33:36  <coderarity>well, your subdomain still works
15:33:41  <gildean>the custom domain shouldn't matter as i see you're not using wss nor https
15:34:11  <gildean>if you were, then you'd need the certs (if they'd be self-signed)
15:35:18  <gildean>it took me like two hours trying everything when i made a small ws-app to just realize i was missing the self-signed cert for the wss-url, which was on a different subdomain than the webserver
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15:35:25  <field>ah, yeah i think it's an error in my app
15:35:34  <field>thanks for stepping through that with me
15:39:42  <field>seems to work now! http://pictochatty.com/science
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15:46:30  <gildean>field: it needs to autoscroll on new messages
15:46:50  <field>lol, yeah that only works in chrome
15:47:19  <field>it was a 5 hour hackathon project so... needs a lot
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15:52:47  <Sly>Woot. Woot.
15:52:54  <Sly>Going to the fair this weekend. :D
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15:53:52  <Sly>Hey, anoemi.
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16:19:03  <Archien>Is someone here from nodejitsu?
16:19:19  <blakmatrix>Archien: what is up?
16:19:34  <Archien>Great! , wel i'm having a bit of a problem with confirming my acount :(
16:19:54  <coderarity>huh
16:19:55  <Archien>I installed jitsu the way the email sayd. but still it wont see jitsu as a command
16:20:49  <Archien>it keeps returning " jitsu: command not found "
16:21:15  <blakmatrix>what do you get
16:21:19  <blakmatrix>when yo utype
16:21:27  <blakmatrix>`npm -v`
16:21:29  <blakmatrix>and
16:21:34  <blakmatrix>`node -v`
16:21:41  <coderarity>Archien: on windows?
16:21:46  <Archien> npm = 1.1.62
16:21:50  <Archien>no osx
16:22:05  <blakmatrix>node version?
16:22:07  <Archien>node = v0.8.11
16:22:15  <coderarity>good :D
16:22:26  <blakmatrix>do you have the output of your jitsu install i could look at
16:22:32  <Archien>sure
16:22:35  <blakmatrix>do you use zshell?
16:22:40  <blakmatrix>might try rehash
16:23:22  <Sly>Farrin, do you know if `child_process.spawn` buffers STDOUT? I don't see it in `libuv/src/process.c`, but a guy is having trouble getting output from a Python script in #node.js
16:23:33  <Archien>zshell? , rehash ? :' )
16:23:49  <Archien>I' m pretty new to all of this so i havent used many programs yet :(
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16:24:38  <blakmatrix>Archien: if you dont know you probably are using bash haha, you can tell if you type `echo $SHELL`
16:25:07  <Archien>aah eys, bash :D
16:25:13  <Archien>yes*
16:25:22  <Archien>sory bit of a long day X)
16:25:47  <Sly><flexd> Sly: Odd... sys.stdout.write() did nothing either.. what the..
16:25:47  <Sly><flexd> Works fine in the actual script, but still no output hm
16:25:50  * Slyis stumped.
16:26:35  <blakmatrix>Sly: I am pretty sure it does
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16:27:03  <blakmatrix>Sly: though I usually just toString() it before i make the child return
16:27:17  <Sly>https://gist.github.com/59551b61c9eac6f3df68
16:27:20  <Sly>That's the code he's using.
16:27:35  <Sly>And he tried a direct sys.stdout.write() in Python, and it didn't return anything. Ever.
16:27:37  <blakmatrix>Archien: got a gist of your install
16:27:57  <blakmatrix>Archien: oh hey did you maybe forget the '-g' flag ?
16:28:28  <Archien>http://pastebin.com/mcbcYARP :)
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16:28:34  <Archien>i put it in a bin for ya
16:29:52  <Archien>and yes i did the -g :D just like the email sayd hehe
16:31:39  <coderarity>Archien: can you show me `echo $PATH`?
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16:32:11  <Archien> /usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11/bin:/usr/local/git/bin
16:32:28  <blakmatrix>that looks fine
16:32:32  <coderarity>it needs to contain /usr/local/share/npm/bin -- add it to your .bash_profile
16:32:43  <blakmatrix>mine doesnt have that either
16:32:52  <coderarity>blakmatrix: he probably `brew install`d it
16:33:12  <blakmatrix>i never use brew to install node
16:33:12  <coderarity>in any case, that pastebin says that's where it's installed, so you need that in your path
16:33:14  <blakmatrix>:S
16:33:19  <Archien>actualy i didn't use brew for node install :)
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16:33:59  <coderarity>Archien: it's not really relevant, but out of curiosity, how did you install it?
16:34:09  <blakmatrix>Sly: looks liek it only has a message event
16:34:13  <blakmatrix>Sly: http://nodejs.org/api/child_process.html
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16:34:28  <Archien>I installed node with the installer on the website :)
16:34:53  <coderarity>yeah, that could have done it too
16:35:01  <Archien>and the thing is that all of that worked. Cause i followed a tutorial to make a node.js chat app and it works :)
16:35:16  <st_luke>GOOD LUCK JITSUS
16:35:33  <coderarity>in any case, it's all good, just put PATH=/usr/local/share/npm/bin:$PATH in your ~/.bash_profile
16:36:13  <Archien>i have no idea how to do that..sory guys..just trying to learn alot in a short amount of time :(
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16:37:36  <coderarity>Archien: what text editor do you use?
16:37:47  <Archien>coda 2
16:37:59  <coderarity>oh, well
16:38:25  <Archien>sorry i dont use vim ;)
16:39:48  <coderarity>try `open ~/.bash_profile`
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16:41:05  <Archien>ok I dced..I think
16:43:18  <coderarity>hmm, well i said "try `open ~/.bash_profile`"
16:43:52  <blakmatrix>all my globals are in /usr/local/bin
16:44:01  <blakmatrix>i have mac OSx also
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16:44:30  <Archien>ok lets try :D
16:44:37  <coderarity>blakmatrix: i mean, look at line 152 in that pastebin
16:44:46  <Archien>doesnt exist
16:44:47  <blakmatrix>coderarity: I see lol
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16:45:09  <coderarity>Archien: `open ~/.profile` should exit
16:45:20  <coderarity>exist*
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16:46:11  <coderarity>*gasp* I guess none of those exist on a new installation of lion
16:46:15  <coderarity>mountain lion, even
16:46:30  <Archien>lion :) i havent upgraded to mountain lion yet
16:46:39  <coderarity>oh, well, then it might be there
16:46:39  <blakmatrix>you could try running `echo 'export NODE_PATH="'$(npm root -g)'"' >> ~/.bashrc`
16:46:48  <blakmatrix>then `exec $SHELL`
16:46:51  <blakmatrix>then trying again
16:47:02  <coderarity>NODE_PATH won't affect bash
16:47:56  <Archien>does not exist
16:48:05  <Archien>the .profile then , i mean.
16:49:19  <coderarity>hmmm, well blakmatrix has a good way to do it, `echo 'export PATH="/usr/local/share/npm/bin"' >> ~/.profile`
16:49:53  <Archien>ok, did it. and then?
16:50:27  <blakmatrix>Archien: can you try `hash -r`
16:50:58  <coderarity>Archien: try again
16:51:07  <coderarity>with the jitsu
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16:51:11  <Archien>ok 1 sec
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16:51:51  <Archien>env: node: No such file or directory
16:52:01  <Archien>or should i install again?
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16:54:11  <blakmatrix>Archien: https://github.com/yeoman/yeoman/issues/430
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16:54:43  <blakmatrix>looks a lot similar
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16:55:18  <blakmatrix>perhaps if you dont use sudo npm i ... -g it doesnt mak esymlink in /usr/bin/local
16:55:22  <coderarity>Archien: it found the jitsu script :D
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16:55:49  <coderarity>Archien: weird that it didn't find node, though, doesn't `node -v` work?
16:56:30  <blakmatrix>Archien: this was that guys solution "ok so i did a 'brew uninstall node' and then re-installed the node binary, and npm is now at the right spot."
16:57:02  <Archien>but isnt npm at the right spot already? Else my websockets shouldn't be able to work , or am i just completely wrong now X)?
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16:57:26  <blakmatrix>I uess the guy at one point used brew, and that was messing everything up even though he'd since overrided it with the binaries from the website
16:58:11  <Archien>node -v doesnt work anymore :')
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16:58:24  <coderarity>that's what's up, yo
16:58:33  <coderarity>Archien: it's cuz i fail
16:58:41  <Archien>ooh lol X)
16:58:52  <coderarity>Archien: `echo 'export PATH=/usr/local/share/npm/bin:$PATH' >> ~/.profile`
16:59:05  <coderarity>Archien: then restart the terminal
16:59:25  <Archien>did it
16:59:27  <Archien>and now?
16:59:34  <coderarity>try again :D
16:59:39  <coderarity>oh wait
16:59:40  <coderarity>oops
16:59:46  <coderarity>Archien: `echo 'export PATH=/usr/local/share/npm/bin:$PATH' > ~/.profile`
16:59:48  <Archien>im waiting haha
16:59:57  <coderarity>run that, and then restart terminal again
17:00:00  <coderarity>and then it's all good
17:00:12  <Archien>v0.8.11
17:00:13  <Archien>wooho
17:00:21  <coderarity>now jitsu it up
17:00:24  <Archien>So, now should i reinstall jitsu aswel?
17:00:31  <coderarity>nope
17:00:31  <Archien>or just try to confirm?
17:00:33  <coderarity>just use it
17:00:38  <coderarity>yeah, confirm
17:00:57  <Archien>ITS ALIVE
17:01:00  <Archien>ITSSS ALLIIIVEEEEE
17:01:12  <coderarity>:D
17:01:13  <Archien>Thank you very much :D
17:01:28  <Archien>Took us a while X) and it took me trough a few brainfarts , but it works :D
17:01:49  <blakmatrix>Archien: can you do me a favor?
17:01:53  <Archien>sure
17:02:18  <blakmatrix>Archien: do you see node when you execute `brew list`
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17:02:34  <Archien>yes..
17:02:44  <Archien>but i never..used brew to install it
17:03:38  <blakmatrix>Archien: should probably remove it from brew ... i'm reading everywhere that it cause errors if you install binary elsewhere
17:04:25  <blakmatrix>probably related to why it doesnt finish the symlinks to /usr/bin/local
17:04:43  <Archien>aaah :( sorry I just cant remember every using brew to install it ...
17:05:23  <blakmatrix>its ok
17:05:25  <Archien>how do i delete it from brew :' )
17:05:36  <blakmatrix>`brew remove node`
17:05:44  <Archien>lol that easy huh XD
17:05:47  <blakmatrix>if npm is there too get rid of it too
17:05:47  <Archien>now i just feel silly
17:05:55  <Archien>no list only shows node
17:06:05  <blakmatrix>I'd suggest running a binary reinstall
17:06:44  <blakmatrix>, you can probably remove that extra pathing we just added too lol
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17:06:50  <Archien>lol
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17:07:16  <Archien>Can i first try out if this app will work lol haha. But thanks for the info , il try and do the reinstall later :D
17:07:24  <Archien>Any other favors XD?
17:07:39  <coderarity>blakmatrix: he already fixed it
17:08:24  <blakmatrix>Archien: its ok, the brew node seems to be rather infectious...
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17:09:19  <Archien>ok , once again thanks guys :D have a nice night haha. You cheered up whats left of the night for me :D take care!
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17:45:56  <Neri_the_best>yawnt, Hi
17:46:03  <Neri_the_best>yawnt, are u italian?
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17:46:18  <Neri_the_best>stoke, Hi
17:46:18  <yawnt>yee
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17:46:27  <Neri_the_best>yawnt, can u help me?
17:46:35  <yawnt>sure, what's up
17:46:47  <Neri_the_best>yawnt, I have a problem with jitsu deploy
17:47:01  <yawnt>ok, please paste your package.json and jitsu's output here http://gist.github.com
17:48:51  <jesusabdullah>Neri_the_best: where did you go?
17:49:04  <Neri_the_best>jesusabdullah, in figa, why?
17:49:23  <jesusabdullah>Neri_the_best: I mean: What problems are you having with jitsu deploy?
17:49:54  <Neri_the_best>jesusabdullah, https://gist.github.com/3853859 this is my output
17:50:10  <Neri_the_best>jesusabdullah, I've tried many times
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17:50:53  <jesusabdullah>hmmm
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17:51:10  <jesusabdullah>Neri_the_best: how long does it take between running the command and erroring?
17:51:30  <Neri_the_best>jesusabdullah, 1-2 minutes
17:51:39  <jesusabdullah>How big is your snapshot?
17:51:59  <jesusabdullah>1-2 minutes is a while, that looks like a timeout due to gigantic snapshot from here
17:52:43  <Neri_the_best>jesusabdullah, 8.20 Mb
17:52:46  <jesusabdullah>Neri_the_best: since you asked yawnt if he's italian, does that mean you're italian as well?
17:52:53  <jesusabdullah>hmmm
17:53:00  <jesusabdullah>8.2 mb sounds manageable
17:53:09  <jesusabdullah>is your app open source perchance?
17:53:20  <Neri_the_best>jesusabdullah, yeah
17:53:38  <Neri_the_best>jesusabdullah, nope sry
17:53:49  <jesusabdullah>it's all good
17:53:56  <Neri_the_best>But...
17:53:58  <Neri_the_best>wait
17:54:04  <Neri_the_best>I try to check my package.json
17:54:12  <jesusabdullah>okay
17:54:22  <jesusabdullah>also: how's your internet?
17:55:22  <Neri_the_best>jesusabdullah, so slow
17:55:48  <Neri_the_best>jesusabdullah, but 30 minutes ago i don't have this problem
17:55:59  <Neri_the_best>and the snapshot's size is the same
17:56:11  <jesusabdullah>maybe it was slightly faster 30 minutes ago? This looks like a client-side timeout
17:56:45  <blakmatrix>Neri_the_best: package.json?
17:57:25  <Neri_the_best>blakmatrix, is the same
17:57:29  <Neri_the_best>*it's
17:57:45  <jesusabdullah>Neri_the_best: I don't think you linked us your package.json ?
17:57:55  <Neri_the_best>jesusabdullah, if u want
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17:58:31  <Neri_the_best>jesusabdullah,
17:58:32  <Neri_the_best>https://gist.github.com/3853922
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18:02:27  <jesusabdullah>Neri_the_best: do you need to bundle everything? If not, I'd remove stuff from bundledDeps, it will make your snapshot smaller and more likely to deploy
18:05:09  <Neri_the_best>jesusabdullah, I try to delete node_modules/
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18:07:39  <Neri_the_best>jesusabdullah, now returned a socket hung up
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18:08:48  <jesusabdullah>Neri_the_best: naw, not delete node_modules, remove the "bundledDependencies" field from your package.json
18:08:52  <luney>Anyone familiar with http-proxy alive?
18:10:23  <luney>for my certificate needs in https.createServer i have to pass the CA as an array of the 2 (sometimes 3) certs in the CA bundle. That is the only way to get https.createServer to be recognized as a legit certificate in most other browsers besides chrome
18:10:49  <luney>i don't think http-proxy accepts that CA as an array the same way https.createServer does
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18:11:36  <Neri_the_best>jesusabdullah, socket hung up
18:11:36  <luney>nevermind it does, typo.
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18:12:52  <fooman>quick question about auto scaling -- when a new process is spawned, does it copy the exact instance currently running in memory, or is it equivalent to basically starting the server from scratch like `node server.js` ?
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18:13:40  <jesusabdullah>fooman: the latter
18:13:57  <jesusabdullah>Neri_the_best: sounds like a new error. Can you gist me that one?
18:14:12  <fooman>awesome perfect :) thank you @jesusabdullah
18:15:13  <Neri_the_best>jesusabdullah, wait, now i supper
18:15:55  <jesusabdullah>Neri_the_best: sure thing, we'll be here
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18:17:34  <jesusabdullah>yo question about support: Who do we call if/when someone fucks up their billing?
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18:23:53  <blakmatrix>jesusabdullah: sales
18:23:56  <blakmatrix>lol
18:24:03  <blakmatrix>:(
18:24:25  <blakmatrix>in [0] org structure that position has yet ot be filled
18:24:30  <blakmatrix>so maybe us haha
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18:25:00  <blakmatrix>we'll probably have to be brought up to speed on what is up
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18:35:52  <AvianFlu>jesusabdullah: in what context are you asking
18:36:04  <AvianFlu>"who talks to the angry person" or "who gets them a refund"
18:36:47  <st_luke>jesusabdullah: call josh
18:39:53  <jesusabdullah>st_luke: a'ight
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18:42:20  <st_luke>wait that's you lulz
18:42:53  <jesusabdullah>nuh uh!!
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18:55:08  <jesusabdullah>huh, new flickr upload ux
18:55:13  <jesusabdullah>looks to be html5ified
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19:28:46  <st_luke>IMPORTANT - Windows Users Migration To Active Directory
19:28:51  <st_luke>thanks, corporate overlords
19:29:55  <coderarity>active directory, oh man
19:30:16  <Sly>Anyone know of a good API list for V8?
19:30:37  <Sly>izs.me is pretty outdated, it seems. They don't even list `ThrowException`.
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19:39:59  <mmalecki>Sly: yeah, sec
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19:40:19  <mmalecki>Sly: http://bespin.cz/~ondras/html/index.html
19:41:47  <Sly>:|
19:41:49  <Sly>That's missing stuff, too.
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19:43:29  <Underbar>Yo, getting 500 when i try to deploy, known problem?
19:43:44  <Underbar>https://gist.github.com/3854487
19:43:54  <yawnt>Underbar: hey, can i see your package.json too?
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19:44:20  <Underbar>can i pm you?
19:44:24  <yawnt>sure
19:44:34  <yawnt>but it'd be better to paste it on a gist first
19:44:34  <yawnt>:)
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19:47:01  <evilcelery>hi, are there any known issues on at the moment? my app's are crashing all of a sudden even though they've been running ok for several days
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19:48:45  <yawnt>evilcelery: hey, appname username?
19:48:58  <evilcelery>my username is powmedia
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19:49:11  <evilcelery>the apps are zootify and zootify-monitor
19:49:16  <yawnt>thank you
19:49:26  <evilcelery>they crashed with redis "Error: Auth error: ERR max number of clients reached"
19:50:40  <yawnt>evilcelery: most probably
19:50:46  <yawnt>you're opening new redis connections on every request
19:50:53  <yawnt>instead of using the same one every time in your code
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19:51:22  <st_luke>does anyone have a favorite caching module for arbitrary data?
19:51:23  <evilcelery>don't think so, i open up 2 clients on app startup and they're used by socket.io with the redisstore
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19:53:00  <evilcelery>now i'm just getting {"code":"ECONNREFUSED","errno":"ECONNREFUSED","syscall":"connect"}
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19:56:50  <yawnt>evilcelery: working on it
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20:03:35  <mmalecki>evilcelery: I restarted those, looks fine now?
20:03:45  <evilcelery>working now yeah
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20:03:56  <yawnt>evilcelery: btw double check your code for connection leaks
20:03:56  <evilcelery>its weird because it's been running fine for around a week
20:04:08  <mmalecki>restart surely closed all connections
20:04:26  <evilcelery>when restarting a server, presumably the redis connections are closed?
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20:04:30  <mmalecki>yeah
20:05:30  <evilcelery>any suggestions on what i should be looking for to detect connection leaks?
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20:08:11  <evilcelery>crashed again, same thing
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20:09:14  <evilcelery>what's the connection limit with the redis instances supplied by nodejitsu?
20:11:39  <mmalecki>evilcelery: do logs indicate anything? maybe app is in a crash loop
20:12:34  <evilcelery>yeah logs are saying Error: Auth error: ERR max number of clients reached (from socket.io)
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20:14:28  <jesusabdullah>evilcelery: is there an indication of what sorts of clients these are?
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20:16:18  <evilcelery>i can't tell from the logs but there are 3 clients created: 2 regular clients and 1 subscription client
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20:19:23  <Nodejitsu-Github>[jitsu] blakmatrix pushed 6 new commits to master: http://git.io/4Lo7XA
20:19:23  <Nodejitsu-Github>[jitsu/master] [feature] ui - yawnt
20:19:23  <Nodejitsu-Github>[jitsu/master] [fix] default - yawnt
20:19:23  <Nodejitsu-Github>[jitsu/master] [fix] typo - yawnt
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20:20:41  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] nodejitsu/jitsu#208 (master - 9113403 : Farrin Reid): The build passed.
20:20:41  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/nodejitsu/jitsu/compare/dfd2b6852d60...9113403ce814
20:20:41  <travis-ci>[travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/nodejitsu/jitsu/builds/2711737
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20:20:50  <yawnt>\ò\
20:20:57  <blakmatrix>heh
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20:23:34  <jesusabdullah>evilcelery: that wouldn't be too many clients I'm sure. Are you certain you're not leaking socket.io listeners?
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20:25:12  <evilcelery>yeah there's only one instance of socket.io that starts up on app startup and they're the only instnaces of redis i"m using
20:28:14  <evilcelery>i haven't had any issues like this over the past week and i've had quite a few more clients connected at once
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20:31:07  <jesusabdullah>I see
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20:31:10  <jesusabdullah>well that's annoying
20:32:43  <jesusabdullah>evilcelery: I did some googling on redis connection limits for redistogo's micro plans, didn't see much
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20:33:02  <jesusabdullah>evilcelery: keep in mind though, those redis instances are fairly small
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20:35:40  <evilcelery>sure
20:35:57  <evilcelery>how are the nodejitsu redistogoplans split between the different apps
20:36:07  <evilcelery>do we get an instance each?
20:37:15  <jesusabdullah>they're not 1:1 with apps, each database you create is a separate database
20:37:33  <jesusabdullah>and you can have n apps connect to a given database, and an app can connect to m databases
20:37:38  <jesusabdullah>not tied to each other at all
20:47:27  <evilcelery>yeah i've got 2 apps connecting to the same redis instance
20:48:16  <jesusabdullah>I see
20:48:24  <jesusabdullah>maybe try separating those evilcelery ?
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20:49:39  <evilcelery>they are separate: one is the main socket.io server and one is a monitor that runs different jobs on intervals
20:50:00  <jesusabdullah>oh, I see, they're supposed to operate on the same db
20:50:12  <jesusabdullah>that makes sense
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20:50:21  <evilcelery>yeah they do
20:50:38  <evilcelery>they're both throwing up this max number of clients error
20:51:02  <jesusabdullah>have you asked the socket.io guys about this? They might know what's causing that
20:53:23  <jesusabdullah>evilcelery: also dig into the redis documentation and see if you can find a way to get client max information from your redis (it appears possible at a cursory glance, possibly even configurable)
20:53:37  <jesusabdullah>evilcelery: you may also want to email redistogo.com and ask them about it if the redis docs fail you
20:54:01  <jesusabdullah>evilcelery: did you say the monitor only runs the redis client and gets the same error?
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20:54:37  <evilcelery>the monitor runs socket.io too but doesn't accept clients
20:54:42  <evilcelery>the error is coming from the same place
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20:57:10  <jesusabdullah>what I mean is: are they max socket.io clients or max redis clients?
20:57:17  <jesusabdullah>like, can you rule out the former?
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21:22:58  <yawnt>Underbar: sure
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21:34:03  <evilcelery>is there a way to tell how many instances of an app you have running?
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21:38:17  <mmalecki>evilcelery: for now it's 1
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21:47:14  <evilcelery>anyone have any feedback on redistogo vs redis4you? I don't understand why redistogo is so ridiculously expensive
21:47:36  <jesusabdullah>evilcelery: I don't know, unfortunately
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21:49:44  <evilcelery>are either of them on joyent cloud near nodejitsu? need to minimise latency
21:51:24  <jesusabdullah>evilcelery: http://www.joyent.com/solutions doesn't look like it, but our datacenter (at the moment) is in us-east-1 so anything in Blacksburg should be close geographically
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22:04:51  <windsurf_>can anyone recommend a mysql module that can connect via ssl? I have my server set up correctly. node-mysql doesn't seem to support it
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22:06:19  <samholmes>what's the difference between shared and dedicated really?
22:06:34  <yawnt>shared is
22:06:38  <yawnt>1 server - multiple apps
22:06:41  <yawnt>dedicated is
22:06:46  <yawnt>1 server - 1 app
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22:08:33  <samholmes>yawnt: Then why is dedicated more expensive if you get less apps?
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22:09:21  <jesusabdullah>samholmes: yes, dedicated is more expensive because, well, it's dedicated. Better perf.
22:09:32  <yawnt>samholmes: multiple apps doesn't mean you can host multiple apps
22:09:42  <yawnt>you still get 1 app, but computing power is shared with others
22:09:47  <jesusabdullah>samholmes: ^^
22:09:50  <samholmes>I see
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22:10:12  <samholmes>so multiple apps on one server, but you only get one app on that server shared with everyone else.
22:10:23  <samholmes>Can I host multiple apps on my dedicated?
22:10:30  <samholmes>Also, do I get root access?
22:10:35  <yawnt>no root access
22:10:46  <samholmes>How do I install things to my server then?
22:10:52  <yawnt>like what?
22:11:02  <samholmes>Like, what if I need cairo graphics libraries or something
22:11:10  <blakmatrix>programatically
22:11:11  <jesusabdullah>samholmes: we're a platform as a service for node.js apps, not infrastructure as a service.
22:11:12  <samholmes>imagemagick was mentioned.
22:11:25  <blakmatrix>samholmes: that should be on the sstem
22:11:37  <jesusabdullah>samholmes: we have a number of useful binaries and libraries on our boxes, including cairo and imagemagick
22:11:38  <samholmes>sstem?
22:11:42  <blakmatrix>but you'll need to have it as a dependency
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22:11:54  <jesusabdullah>samholmes: if something is missing talk to us, we may be able to make it available
22:11:56  <samholmes>what's sstem?
22:12:03  <blakmatrix>system*
22:12:04  <yawnt>systen
22:12:07  <yawnt>*m
22:12:11  <samholmes>Ah. Lol
22:12:26  <samholmes>So, a lot of what I need should be there.
22:12:47  <samholmes>Do I have npm?
22:12:50  <yawnt>yes
22:13:00  <yawnt>dependencies are automatically fetched
22:13:02  <yawnt>and installed
22:13:09  <samholmes>Some models require a build step in order to install, this still works right?
22:13:12  <yawnt>yes
22:13:14  <yawnt>most of them do
22:13:31  <samholmes>I see
22:13:41  <samholmes>So, scaling is just running multiple apps?
22:13:45  <samholmes>Or is it multiple drones?
22:13:48  <samholmes>What's a drone?
22:14:25  <yawnt>a drone is a unit of computing power
22:14:30  <jesusabdullah>A drone is a wrapped/served application, samholmes
22:14:50  <jesusabdullah>samholmes: we use npm to manage your deps, etc., should work the same as an npm install would
22:15:16  <samholmes>what's wrapped/served mean?
22:16:37  <samholmes>what does*
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22:17:26  <samholmes>nathan7 said he runs multiple processes for a single app for scaling.
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22:17:59  <jesusabdullah>samholmes: you can shell out to worker processes
22:18:15  <samholmes>shell?
22:18:15  <jesusabdullah>samholmes: what I mean by that is that a drone is an app listening on a port
22:18:31  <jesusabdullah>samholmes: y'know, like, spawn a process and communicate with it over stdin/stdout
22:18:38  <jesusabdullah>samholmes: like how you would use imagemagick
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22:20:29  <jeffthink>hey guys - has anyone gotten a meteor app on nodejitsu? I tried using this gist (https://gist.github.com/3169508) but seems that maybe some dependencies have changed in last 3 months…just some direction towards how I might find the dependency info would be great
22:20:40  <samholmes>jesusabdullah: I see. Like I could use dnode to load balance?
22:20:59  <jesusabdullah>samholmes: if you stream your dnode over stdio instead of with tcp, sure
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22:21:33  <jesusabdullah>blakmatrix: jeffthink is asking about getting meteor running on nodejitsu, can you talk with him about it?
22:21:36  <samholmes>I see
22:21:48  <samholmes>so I'd need to pay for each process as a drone then?
22:21:50  <jesusabdullah>blakmatrix: looks like your gist might be out of date
22:21:58  <jesusabdullah>samholmes: each process that is an http server
22:22:10  <samholmes>I think I see
22:22:36  <samholmes>I need to head out for lunch. I'll be back to continue this convo a little more. Thank you for being very helpful and answering all my questions, jesusabdullah. :)
22:22:44  <jesusabdullah>sure thing :)
22:22:59  <blakmatrix>jeffthink: basically you'll have to look at whats bundled, go through each dependencies, and set them to the specific versions in the package.json
22:23:29  <jesusabdullah>jeffthink: meteor made it hard for you by not using package.json :(
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22:25:01  <jeffthink>blakmatrix: yea, this may be a stupid question, but where exactly should I be looking…as jesusabdullah mentions, I'm used to just looking in a package.json
22:26:20  <blakmatrix>jeffthink: thats exactly wher yo ulook, under the modules bundled go through all of them, strip thier version numbers from all the package.json, so you can put them into a master package.json
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22:27:58  <jeffthink>ouch…so, all the node_modules then…I figured there was a file that had the dep versions listed that I was missing :)
22:28:40  <jesusabdullah>you might want to write a tool to automate that process jeffthink
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22:29:08  <jesusabdullah>especially if you plan on doing this more than once
22:30:12  <jeffthink>yup, good point…is a pain that meteor doesn't use a package.json file
22:30:28  <blakmatrix>jeffthink: Yeah I dunno why they dont make it easier
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22:30:58  <blakmatrix>jeffthink: I went in and asked hem at one point waited around for a day and got no response
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22:32:50  <jeffthink>weird…they do make it really easy to deploy to their own server, but for others, not so much…anyhow, if I come up with anything marginally useful to automate, I'll post on github
22:33:46  <blakmatrix>jeffthink: cool, put a link in the comments on my gists if you can
22:33:55  <jeffthink>will do…thanks for the help guys
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23:27:05  <evilcelery>anyone know the webchat irc command for turning off join/leave/nick messages?
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23:27:47  <coderarity>i don't think there is one, but some IRC clients have an option
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23:37:19  <jeffthink>evilcelery: http://i.clintecker.com/disable-irc-msgs.html
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23:38:05  <evilcelery>thanks
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23:44:05  <jeffthink>blakmatrix: think I must be doing something wrong, because am getting error: Error: `/package/server/node_modules/fibers/bin/solaris-x64-v8-3.11/fibers.node` is missing. Try reinstalling `node-fibers`? when deploying…when I have fibers as a dependency
23:44:45  <blakmatrix>jeffthink: you're not bundling it are you?
23:44:57  <blakmatrix>it has to compile on our uild server
23:45:20  <blakmatrix>build*
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23:46:30  <jeffthink>well, I'm bundling meteor app, and from there, trying to deploy it…I haven't gone through and put all dependencies in yet, because I noticed it was failing on the most important
23:47:29  <blakmatrix>can I see your package.json?
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23:48:27  <jeffthink>yup, 1 moment
23:49:56  <jeffthink>blakmatrix: https://gist.github.com/3855672
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