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00:10:15  <Sly>Ohai, coderarity. :P
00:10:37  <coderarity>hi
00:10:55  <Sly>What's up?
00:11:19  <coderarity>nothing much
00:11:48  <coderarity>i made burgers yesterday that turned out pretty okay
00:11:51  <coderarity>not amazing, but it was good
00:12:02  <coderarity>next sunday i'll get it right
00:12:12  <Sly>lol
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00:12:34  <coderarity>i spent like 40 minutes just figuring out how to light the charcoal
00:13:32  <coderarity>eventually i was like it was probably way more dangerous than it had to be
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00:14:25  <coderarity>after a while i figured out i had to wait before lighting it, i guess all the gasoline was just burning off before the charcoal was lit
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00:25:31  <Sly>lulz. I can tell my dog is going through his little puberty stage.
00:26:02  <Sly>One minute his bark is really low-pitched and sounds like he's about to tear someone up.. Next minute it's all high pitched like a dog half his size.
00:26:04  <Sly>xD
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00:58:29  <jesusabdullah>Sly: lulz
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01:44:48  <mdedetrich>does nodejitsu support redid?
01:44:56  <mdedetrich>*redis
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01:46:06  <AvianFlu>mdedetrich: we don't host redis, but you can connect to any external db you want
01:46:21  <AvianFlu>`jitsu databases create` will let you provision a free redistogo instance, as well
01:46:41  <mdedetrich>AvianFlu: thank you
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02:14:27  <mdedetrich>I am getting socket hang up errors again
02:18:08  <mdedetrich>also does nodejitsu have a temp directory where we can temporarily store files?
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02:19:39  <AvianFlu>mdedetrich: use fs.mkdir and make yourself one with a relative path
02:19:46  <AvianFlu>on startup
02:20:02  <AvianFlu>or, upload a folder with your app - not empty, though, or it'll get skipped by npm
02:20:34  <ph0n3tic>Question guys, I have a config.yaml file that has info like db connection address, etc. Does jitsu deploy upload that? I get an undefined error when I try to access some json objects from this config file and the app doesn't start up.
02:21:02  <mdedetrich>AvianFlu: also I am getting this ld.so.1: node: fatal: relocation error: file /opt/haibu/apps/3dot/templavent/package/node_modules/socketstream/node_modules/redis/node_modules/hiredis/build/Release/hiredis.node: symbol redisReaderCreate: referenced symbol not found
02:21:19  <AvianFlu>you need to configure redis to not use the hiredis parser
02:21:39  <AvianFlu>ph0n3tic: is it in your .gitignore or .npmignore ?
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02:23:00  <ph0n3tic>AvianFlu: No, it is not in either.
02:24:25  <AvianFlu>ph0n3tic: check the paths you're using, if it's in your app dir it should get uploaded with the rest
02:24:53  <AvianFlu>mdedetrich: you can bundle the redis dependency and remove hiredis, that's one way
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02:27:29  <ph0n3tic>AvianFlu: I mean I know it is finding the file. It just is producing undefined for some reason when pulling this json out of the yaml file(doesn't happen locally).
02:27:51  <AvianFlu>how are you pulling the json out of the yaml file?
02:27:59  <AvianFlu>is there a chance it wouldn't behave the same on smartOS?
02:28:55  <ph0n3tic>I'm doing this:
02:28:59  <ph0n3tic>var config_file = require('yaml-config');
02:28:59  <ph0n3tic>var config = config_file.readConfig('config/config.yaml');
02:29:23  <AvianFlu>okay
02:29:26  <ph0n3tic>So, if the file didn't exist, I'd get a NOENT error. However, instead, config is just an empty json {}
02:29:38  <AvianFlu>that's pretty weird
02:29:53  <AvianFlu>besides the file not getting uploaded somehow, I'm not sure why that would happen
02:30:07  <AvianFlu>maybe do an fs.stat before that call and dump the results
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02:33:26  <russelh15>AvianFlu: Any update on the window error from last night?
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02:33:36  <russelh15>AvianFlu: https://gist.github.com/3688723
02:33:57  <ph0n3tic>AvianFlu: I put in an fs.stat for the config pathname, but it doesnt seem to output. Do I have to use the sync version?
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02:34:30  <AvianFlu>how did you try to output?
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02:36:28  <ph0n3tic>AvianFlu: https://gist.github.com/3695519
02:37:09  <AvianFlu>`jitsu logs` produce anything?
02:37:18  <AvianFlu>russelh15: just a sec, let me look at something
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02:40:36  <russelh15>AvianFlu: Actually, I think I solved that issue on my end
02:40:42  <ph0n3tic>AvianFlu: No luck. My jitsu logs only shows my console.log of the config json object which is {}. The output of fs.stat isn't getting captured.
02:40:48  <russelh15>AvianFlu: I was running 0.6 version of Node
02:40:59  <russelh15>AvianFlu: I did some googling around and came across this link, http://piscisaureus.no.de/nodejitsu/2012-09-05
02:41:02  <AvianFlu>russelh15: that explains it!
02:41:21  <AvianFlu>I'm glad our logs are on google
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02:41:37  <AvianFlu>ph0n3tic: okay, let me look at your code again for a second
02:41:56  <ph0n3tic>AvianFlu: thank you, i really appreciate all this awesome support :)
02:42:00  <russelh15>AvianFlu: Yeh, i upgraded and it did hit that error. Right now it's attempting to start my app. Hopefully I dont get that socket hang error
02:42:36  <russelh15>AvianFlu: Damn, that's exactly the error i got :\
02:42:43  <AvianFlu>russelh15: we're deploying the fix for the server-side socket hang ups in a few hours
02:42:54  <russelh15>AvianFlu: ok cool. thanks.
02:42:58  <AvianFlu>the client-side timeouts are still possible, though, and take about 4 minutes
02:43:02  <AvianFlu>I think the default is 4 minutes
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02:47:11  <AvianFlu>ph0n3tic: you should try logging the output of __dirname
02:47:21  <ph0n3tic>will do
02:47:38  <AvianFlu>actually
02:47:48  <AvianFlu>just use __dirname for the stat
02:47:52  <AvianFlu>see if it helps
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02:48:20  <ph0n3tic>Okay. DOes it matter if I use the regular stat or statsync?
02:48:28  <AvianFlu>not particularly
02:48:32  <AvianFlu>maybe do it sync for sanity
02:48:35  <AvianFlu>and because it's a config file
02:48:53  <AvianFlu>if you're at startup, and it's something you can't start without, it may as well be sync
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02:51:05  <mdedetrich>does the connect middleware for redis hash all keys and values
02:51:14  <mdedetrich>I am trying to figure out if refis is being used or not
02:51:26  <mdedetrich>because my site is working, not sure if its using redis though
02:51:58  <ph0n3tic>yay, sync worked: https://gist.github.com/0785040c897c1fc85828
02:52:26  <AvianFlu>okay, is that just __dirname, or __dirname + '/config
02:52:28  <AvianFlu>'
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02:53:20  <ph0n3tic>that's just __dirname, i'm guessing I should try it with the config file path. one second.
02:56:21  <ph0n3tic>Avian: Okay, __dirname+'/config' https://gist.github.com/3695613
02:58:12  <AvianFlu>well, that exists
02:58:16  <AvianFlu>try to stat your .yaml now
02:58:22  <AvianFlu>see if it's the right size n' stuff
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02:59:32  <ph0n3tic>Okay, one sec.
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03:02:54  <ph0n3tic>AvianFlu: Not exactly sure how to check the size, but here is a comparison of running the stat locally and with jitsu: https://gist.github.com/3695613
03:03:43  <AvianFlu>ah, the modes are different
03:03:46  <AvianFlu>just a sec
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03:11:42  <mdedetrich>AvianFlu: getting a An error has occurred: {"code":"ECONNREFUSED","errno":"ECONNREFUSED","syscall":"connect"}
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03:15:12  <AvianFlu>mdedetrich: try it again, that should be fixed
03:15:27  <mdedetrich>AvianFlu: just did, got an out of memory error
03:15:42  <mdedetrich>AvianFlu: rror: FATAL ERROR: Evacuation Allocation failed - process out of memory
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03:16:34  <mdedetrich>AvianFlu: should i try again?
03:16:34  <ph0n3tic>AvianFlu: So do you think it's a file permissions issue?
03:17:04  <AvianFlu>mdedetrich: yeah
03:17:14  <AvianFlu>you're hitting an issue we're rolling out the final fix for in about two hours
03:17:24  <AvianFlu>it's just cleaning up in the meantime
03:17:30  <AvianFlu>ph0n3tic: potentially, yes
03:17:38  <AvianFlu>but npm should be respecting those
03:17:51  <AvianFlu>and you're just trying to read from it
03:18:17  <ph0n3tic>hmmmm, I'm considering not doing this with yaml haha, this is far too much trouble for a simple config file
03:19:32  <AvianFlu>true
03:19:39  <mdedetrich>AvianFlu: got a An error has occurred: {"code":"ECONNREFUSED","errno":"ECONNREFUSED","syscall":"connect"}
03:19:59  <mdedetrich>AvianFlu: again, would it just be better to wait after the maintanence/
03:20:02  <mdedetrich>*?
03:20:40  <AvianFlu>no, I can get you deployed shortly
03:20:43  <AvianFlu>just give me a second
03:22:45  <sberryman_>AvianFlu: site is down :/
03:23:00  <sberryman_>131.4 is just sitting there waiting for data
03:23:08  <mdedetrich>AvianFlu: let me know when ur done
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03:27:21  <garrettwilkin>i just tried to start my app, and the error message looks like it tried to build socket.io?
03:27:26  <garrettwilkin>seems surprising
03:34:03  <AvianFlu>mdedetrich: give it a shot now
03:34:18  <AvianFlu>garrettwilkin: what's the problem, are you not using socket.io?
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03:34:32  <garrettwilkin>i am using it
03:34:46  <garrettwilkin>but i just thought it was odd that it would build, just because i started
03:34:53  <garrettwilkin>i figured it would have already been built
03:35:06  <AvianFlu>starting your app puts it on a new server
03:35:10  <AvianFlu>which needs the deps
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03:35:52  <harbhub>hey fellas
03:36:15  <harbhub>how do i make sure that a post request made by the client (the client submits a form for instance) is secured?
03:36:28  <harbhub>i.e. that the data transferred cannot be intersepted AND interpretted
03:37:20  <coderarity>HTTPS
03:37:31  <coderarity>nodejitsu supports it
03:37:32  <harbhub>hmm
03:37:34  <harbhub>sweet
03:37:35  <coderarity>just use HTTPS for all your URLs
03:37:44  <harbhub>how do i implement that?
03:37:51  <harbhub>i have an existing site marqueelephoto.com
03:37:57  <harbhub>and i want the contact form to be secure
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03:38:17  <harbhub>i can send you the source code of the site (it is all in one folder, just express with jade template)
03:38:35  <harbhub>or maybe you could give me a gist of how to change from http to https
03:38:45  <coderarity>upload it to github :P
03:38:51  <harbhub>k gimme a sec
03:38:53  <harbhub>:)
03:39:00  <mdedetrich>AvianFlu: still getting An error has occurred: {"code":"ECONNREFUSED","errno":"ECONNREFUSED","syscall":"connect"}
03:39:10  <AvianFlu>well wtf, hang on
03:39:18  <coderarity>harbhub: you don't really have to do anything, just whenever you type a URL, use https instead of http
03:39:32  <harbhub>how?
03:39:41  <harbhub>require('https') instead of http?
03:39:41  <AvianFlu>mdedetrich: what's the app name
03:39:49  <coderarity>harbhub: not on the server, on the client
03:39:54  <AvianFlu>harbhub: no, our balancers will terminate ssl for you
03:39:57  <mdedetrich>AvianFlu: templavent
03:39:59  <AvianFlu>and forward it to your app
03:40:04  <harbhub>don't quite understand
03:40:14  <harbhub>how do i require https on the client side?
03:40:20  <harbhub>this is my first time using httpS
03:40:27  <coderarity>harbhub: like, if your form is action="/form/submit" change it to action="https://"+location.origin+"/form/submit"
03:40:35  <mdedetrich>harbhub: to do https on nojitsu, you have to pay them for it
03:40:44  <mdedetrich>*nodejitsu
03:40:51  <garrettwilkin>AvianFlu: thanks for the explanation
03:40:54  <harbhub>how much does it cost lol
03:40:56  <mdedetrich>harbhub: doing https on client side is pointless, the certificate will always be invalid
03:41:08  <mdedetrich>harbhub: ask them?
03:41:14  <harbhub>i am lol
03:41:22  <harbhub>my question was to the general chat hehe
03:41:35  <harbhub>but if https on client side is pointless... then what is the point?
03:41:36  <AvianFlu>mdedetrich: it's still using hiredis
03:41:36  <harbhub>o.0
03:41:40  <coderarity>harbhub: nah, you don't have to pay for https
03:42:00  <coderarity>harbhub: i mean, unless you have a custom domain
03:42:07  <mdedetrich>AvianFlu: it shouldn't be, I put in bundledDependancies redid into package.json
03:42:13  <mdedetrich>AvianFlu: it also deployed before
03:42:18  <harbhub>i'm using marqueelephoto.com
03:42:24  <harbhub>that is a custom domain i suppose?
03:42:28  <coderarity>yeah
03:42:34  <harbhub>well
03:42:43  <harbhub>for my real website i guess i dont need https
03:42:44  <AvianFlu>mdedetrich: the drone you deployed to last, it's looping with that error
03:42:54  <coderarity>you need to get a HTTPS certificate for that domain otherwise
03:42:56  <harbhub>since the site doesnt let you send passwords or any valueable info
03:42:56  <AvianFlu>gist your package.json? and/or try to 'start' again?
03:43:12  <harbhub>but my future site will definitely need https
03:43:32  <harbhub>it is good to know that my app logic doesnt change *much* to go from http to https
03:43:47  <mdedetrich>AvianFlu: https://gist.github.com/eb47bc8f1587696c43ba
03:43:48  <coderarity>harbhub: app logic doesn't change at all
03:43:54  <coderarity>harbhub: not on the server side, anyways
03:44:02  <coderarity>harbhub: unless you want to redirect http to https
03:44:16  <AvianFlu>mdedetrich: and you removed hiredis from the local redis in your node_modules/
03:44:17  <AvianFlu>?
03:44:28  <harbhub>what if i want to make the entire app https
03:44:38  <harbhub>every single request secured?
03:44:43  <mdedetrich>AvianFlu: yes
03:44:51  <harbhub>does my app logic change significantly in terms of my views and such?
03:44:52  <coderarity>harbhub: yeah, like i was saying, just redirect people who request through HTTP to HTTPS
03:44:59  <harbhub>okay
03:45:12  <harbhub>thanks for the clarifications guys
03:45:16  <harbhub>you are all the best!
03:45:17  <coderarity>harbhub: hint: host your files on a different app than your application
03:45:24  <mdedetrich>AvianFlu: npm uninstall hiredis
03:45:24  <mdedetrich>npm WARN uninstall not installed in /Users/mdedetrich/3dot/templavent/node_modules: "hiredis"
03:45:30  <harbhub>yes code
03:45:49  <harbhub>that way no one can see my files using firebug?
03:45:51  <coderarity>harbhub: then your static files won't be served over HTTPS, but at least your app logic will have HTTPS
03:46:04  <harbhub>hmm
03:46:08  <harbhub>not sure i fully understand
03:46:10  <coderarity>harbhub: wel, no
03:46:12  <harbhub>so i have two apps
03:46:14  <AvianFlu>mdedetrich: you need to remove it from the package.json of that module
03:46:16  <harbhub>one with the static files
03:46:19  <harbhub>the other is the app
03:46:23  <AvianFlu>I think
03:46:23  <coderarity>yeah
03:46:30  <harbhub>and i make requests for the static files from the static app
03:46:34  <mdedetrich>AvianFlu: remove what?
03:46:45  <AvianFlu>hiredis
03:46:46  <harbhub>well *to the static app *from the actual app
03:46:53  <AvianFlu>from redis' package.json
03:46:55  <coderarity>harbhub: also, for SSL on custom domains, you need a business plan, see http://nodejitsu.com/paas/pricing.html
03:47:00  <harbhub>that is sort of like what i do with IMGUR, right?
03:47:06  <harbhub>imgur hosts my static image files
03:47:11  <mdedetrich>AvianFlu: how exactly do I do this?
03:47:13  <harbhub>and i make requests from my app to imgur to pull them
03:47:17  <harbhub>is that what you mean?
03:47:29  <harbhub>lol business plan for business man
03:47:36  <coderarity>harbhub: no, like, your html, css and stuff on one server
03:47:43  <mdedetrich>AvianFlu: redis isn't even in node_modules
03:47:45  <coderarity>harbhub: and like your socket.io and stuff on another server
03:47:53  <mdedetrich>AvianFlu: its installed globally with socketstream
03:48:00  <coderarity>mdedetrich: did you gist your package.json?
03:48:08  <harbhub>yes code that is what i meant
03:48:15  <harbhub>images are just ONE example of static files
03:48:16  <mdedetrich>coderarity: https://gist.github.com/eb47bc8f1587696c43ba
03:48:17  <AvianFlu>mdedetrich: okay, we've had a misunderstanding then
03:48:25  <AvianFlu>you need to bundle socketstream
03:48:32  <AvianFlu>and remove hiredis from *its* redis dep
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03:48:43  <mdedetrich>bleh
03:48:49  <AvianFlu>I misunderstood where redis was in your app, and I apologize
03:48:51  <mdedetrich>isn't there an easier way to fix this
03:48:52  <harbhub>coderarity: i'm not sure how to set that up with express
03:48:56  <harbhub>since it auto-routes for me
03:48:57  <coderarity>AvianFlu: does he need to bundle redis in the socketstream app too?
03:49:07  <harbhub>how do i route a request for a stylesheet, for instance?
03:49:09  <AvianFlu>coderarity: or, you can figure out that config for him
03:50:05  <mdedetrich>i mean I'm reading this
03:50:06  <mdedetrich>http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12061494/how-to-fix-hiredis-compilation-issue-on-nodejitsu
03:50:17  <mdedetrich>hiredis is an optional dependancy
03:50:47  <mdedetrich>hmm wait
03:50:50  <mdedetrich>hired is does exist
03:50:55  <mdedetrich>hiredis*
03:51:02  <AvianFlu>this is a linker bug
03:51:19  <AvianFlu>an actual bug in the solaris linker that prevents redis from being properly loaded
03:51:27  <AvianFlu>and we need to work around it, but the thing is
03:51:30  <AvianFlu>the compile succeeds
03:51:36  <mdedetrich>right so it isn't an issue on my end?
03:51:40  <AvianFlu>so by default, npm says 'oh cool! the optional dep is there!'
03:51:55  <AvianFlu>mdedetrich: no, except that you'll have to disable the C parser, one way or another
03:52:04  <AvianFlu>this isn't even us, it's a smartOS problem
03:52:17  <mdedetrich>by C parser you mean hired is?
03:52:21  <AvianFlu>we will probably be able to work around it permanently
03:52:22  <mdedetrich>hiredis*
03:52:22  <AvianFlu>yeah
03:52:29  <AvianFlu>but in the meantime, you just can't use hiredis
03:52:30  <coderarity>mdedetrich: you can pass in {parser: 'javascript"} as the last argument in redis.createClient to use the javascript parser
03:52:43  <coderarity>except use matching quotes, lol
03:53:47  <mdedetrich>is this issue going to be fixed in the future?
03:54:27  <AvianFlu>mdedetrich: yeah, we'll find a server-side workaround for it
03:54:27  * alexijoined
03:54:32  <deoxxa>ugh, a linker bug?
03:54:36  <AvianFlu>it's just tricky to deal with linker bugs
03:54:40  <AvianFlu>deoxxa: yes.
03:54:46  <deoxxa>mannn
03:54:48  <deoxxa>that sucks
03:54:49  <harbhub>do i set up the email account marque@marqueelephoto.com in the app or on the DNS?
03:55:00  <coderarity>harbhub: DNS
03:55:06  <coderarity>harbhub: google will host your email for you
03:55:11  <harbhub>ok
03:55:16  <harbhub>thanks
03:55:16  <coderarity><3 google
03:55:20  <harbhub>hehe
03:55:55  <coderarity>can you believe no one else thinks frying oreos is a good idea?
03:56:01  <garrettwilkin>AvianFlu: so when we do jitsu deploy
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03:56:13  <garrettwilkin>is the app "starting" on a new server, and rebuilding?
03:56:20  <AvianFlu>garrettwilkin: yeah
03:56:27  <deoxxa>coderarity: hey i supported that idea
03:56:28  <garrettwilkin>okay so thats why it takes a minute
03:56:36  <AvianFlu>after tonight, your deps will be put together on a different server than your app runs on
03:56:39  <harbhub>what the hell is a drone anyways?
03:56:40  <AvianFlu>for the sake of general sanity
03:56:51  <AvianFlu>harbhub: one "server unit", basically
03:57:00  <coderarity>deoxxa: i'm worried i'm gonna be stuck with like 9 fried oreos and only me to eat it :P
03:57:09  <harbhub>lol code
03:57:09  <AvianFlu>coderarity: careful of eating too many
03:57:17  <deoxxa>coderarity: i'm waiting for the part where you tell me how that's a problem
03:57:18  <AvianFlu>there was once a ballad of the pain that ensues...
03:57:18  <coderarity>i have heartburn medicine
03:57:23  <harbhub>haha
03:57:40  <deoxxa>nothing's stopping you from eating them over the course of a couple of hours
03:57:48  <coderarity>i really don't want to let them get cold
03:57:55  <coderarity>but now that i think about it, that might not be so bad
03:58:02  <deoxxa>temperature schmemperature
03:58:11  <harbhub>how can i make sure my website contact form doesnt get spam?
03:58:26  <mdedetrich>coderarity: does a similar issue with linking exist with crypt?
03:58:28  <mdedetrich>*bcrypt
03:58:42  <coderarity>mdedetrich: no, that's just because you're running out of memory trying to compile it
03:58:53  <mdedetrich>....
03:59:01  <coderarity>mdedetrich: i mean, on the server :P
03:59:14  <mdedetrich>I know
03:59:15  <mdedetrich>ffs
03:59:20  <mdedetrich>now its trying to recompile hiredis
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03:59:43  <mdedetrich>when doing the parser: 'javascript' option
03:59:57  <mdedetrich>I'm going to have to manually delete hires and change the package.json
04:00:07  <coderarity>most likely
04:00:13  <coderarity>it's not that hard
04:00:29  <coderarity>harbhub: you need to add a captcha to your form
04:00:34  * shamajoined
04:00:50  <coderarity>harbhub: google to the rescue: http://www.google.com/recaptcha
04:00:56  <deoxxa>recaptcha is broken
04:01:03  <coderarity>really?
04:01:03  <deoxxa>captcha in general, actually, is broken
04:01:05  <harbhub>it is broken
04:01:20  <harbhub>i was thinking of doing a drag/drop thing
04:01:22  <harbhub>so like
04:01:29  <harbhub>drag the right block to the right spot
04:01:32  <harbhub>if it is there
04:01:35  <harbhub>then submit can go
04:01:37  <harbhub>otherwise
04:01:48  <harbhub>write 'move that block, yo'
04:01:54  <deoxxa>harbhub: i've got a thing set up on a website of mine that just sets a hidden field to a specific value in a setTimeout() deal
04:01:59  <harbhub>think a computer will know to move the block? i dont think so...
04:02:09  <deoxxa>harbhub: any of those "hey are you a human" things are just a massive usability fail
04:02:10  * ph0n3ticquit (Remote host closed the connection)
04:02:25  <harbhub>deoxxa: so you mean
04:02:27  <deoxxa>but yeah, setting stuff in setTimeout() seems to block out like 99% of spam
04:02:31  <harbhub>the computer fills out the hidden thing?
04:02:33  <deoxxa>yeah
04:02:41  <deoxxa>most spam bots will just submit the form
04:02:42  <harbhub>hmm
04:02:46  <deoxxa>but most people will use a real browser
04:02:51  <harbhub>what
04:03:00  <harbhub>you are saying to include a hidden input
04:03:04  <deoxxa>yeah
04:03:08  <deoxxa>make it empty at the start
04:03:08  <harbhub>and if that is filled out
04:03:13  <deoxxa>yep
04:03:13  <harbhub>which only a comp will do
04:03:18  <harbhub>then set timeout
04:03:23  <deoxxa>no
04:03:23  <harbhub>the shit outta the comp's face
04:03:23  <harbhub>?
04:03:27  <deoxxa>...what
04:03:28  <harbhub>hmm
04:03:33  <harbhub>what do you do
04:03:36  <mdedetrich>coderarity: still getting the issue
04:03:44  <harbhub>if that hidden thing gets filled
04:03:50  <harbhub>how do you react?
04:03:53  <mdedetrich>even with bundled dependancies and highres not exists in node_modules
04:03:56  <mdedetrich>and a change package.json
04:04:11  <coderarity>mdedetrich: so you've bundled socketstream in your package.json, and then in th socketstream package.jon you bundled redis, and then in the redis package.json you removed the hiredis dependency?
04:04:22  <mdedetrich>coderarity: yes
04:04:27  <harbhub>deoxxa: can you give me a gist to better explain?
04:04:40  <mdedetrich>oh wait
04:04:42  <harbhub>deoxxa: i understand that only the comp will fill out the hidden input, then submit
04:04:45  <mdedetrich>its socket stream i have to bundle
04:04:45  <deoxxa><form><input type="hidden" id="derp" name="derp" value="this-is-spam"></form><script>setTimeout(function() { document.getElementById("derp").value = "this-is-not-spam"; })</script>
04:04:46  <mdedetrich>not redis?
04:04:50  <coderarity>yes
04:04:58  <mdedetrich>k, gimme a sec
04:04:59  <coderarity>unless you use redis in your app, then you need both
04:05:19  <deoxxa>harbhub: the opposite. only a real browser will fill the correct value. a silly spam bot will just submit it with whatever was in there at the start.
04:05:40  <harbhub>hmm
04:05:42  <deoxxa>harbhub: of course, someone could target your site specifically, but who does that?
04:05:48  <harbhub>deoxxa: you are smart
04:06:00  <harbhub>deoxxa: so basically i need to test that this works
04:06:03  * deoxxabrushes his shoulders off
04:06:10  <harbhub>because i am putting lots of trust into the browser!
04:06:19  <deoxxa>yeah, sure
04:06:28  <mdedetrich>coderarity: an eta when this will be fixed?
04:06:34  <deoxxa>but you're already trusting the browser to render your stuff or whatever
04:06:36  <harbhub>so you mean the browser will notice the hidden thing
04:06:36  <deoxxa>sooo
04:06:51  <harbhub>and fill it in to be not spam?
04:06:52  <deoxxa>hang on, let me find a blog post or something about it
04:07:00  <harbhub>okay because it is still a bit confusing
04:07:03  <mdedetrich>coderarity: working now btw, thanks
04:07:06  <harbhub>i understand the idea of the hidden input
04:07:16  <harbhub>so PEOPLE will not know it exists, therefore will not fill it out
04:07:51  <coderarity>\o/
04:08:08  <coderarity>mdedetrich: no, there isn't an eta
04:08:40  <mdedetrich>:(
04:08:45  <coderarity>as soon as we can
04:08:54  <deoxxa>how has nobody written about this
04:08:56  <mdedetrich>looks like you guys need more labor
04:09:09  <mdedetrich>*labour
04:09:10  <coderarity>mdedetrich: i mean, it's a smartOS thin
04:09:28  <coderarity>mdedetrich: linker bugs in smartos aren't exactly the most straightforward things
04:09:30  <mdedetrich>yeah I gathered that, then again smartos is sex when it comes to server environment
04:09:38  <mdedetrich>at least for performance/fs/images
04:10:01  <deoxxa>harbhub: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8472/practical-non-image-based-captcha-approaches << first answer
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04:10:15  <mdedetrich>however thanks for the help, I am now so hungry I can eat a horse, so adios for a bit amigos!
04:10:23  <coderarity>that sounds like an awesome stackoverflow
04:10:30  <coderarity>mdedetrich: have fun eating
04:10:42  <mdedetrich>coderarity: I will, feel like having crocodile
04:11:02  <mdedetrich>or kangaroo
04:11:05  <mdedetrich>hmmm decisions decisions
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04:12:40  <mdedetrich>coderarity: oh btw, is there a workaround for the bcrypt issue
04:12:56  <mdedetrich>coderarity: I use that in an application which I haven't deployed yet
04:13:06  <coderarity>bundle your non-compiled dependencies to reduce the memory that jitsu uses
04:13:34  <mdedetrich>lol, what a hack
04:13:48  <mdedetrich>thanks
04:13:51  <harbhub>deoxxa: ohhhhhhhhh
04:13:55  <harbhub>you make a set timeout LOOP
04:14:01  <AvianFlu>the deploy we're doing in 45 minutes is the final fix for the proble
04:14:01  <harbhub>so it keeps calling itself
04:14:02  <AvianFlu>problem
04:14:10  <harbhub>the function antispam keeps getting called
04:14:13  <harbhub>that is sweet
04:14:14  <mdedetrich>AvianFlu: which one?
04:14:20  <AvianFlu>the new build process
04:14:25  <AvianFlu>is the solution for the bcrypt issue
04:14:31  <AvianFlu>and about 10 other persistent problems
04:14:33  <mdedetrich>AvianFlu: oh awesome thanks
04:14:38  <mdedetrich>good work!
04:15:07  <coderarity>oh, right, i forgot that :P
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04:16:31  <harbhub>deoxxa: thanks!
04:16:38  <deoxxa>no problem :)
04:16:46  <deoxxa>i'm a captcha-hater :P
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04:17:09  <deoxxa>every person i can dissuade from imlementing another craptcha solution makes me happy
04:18:08  <harbhub>lol
04:18:10  <harbhub>then be happy
04:18:17  <harbhub>you persuaded me to not use captcha
04:18:30  <harbhub>how would i prevent a DIRECT attack? just curious
04:18:48  <coderarity>i like that
04:18:51  <coderarity>that's awesome
04:18:57  <deoxxa>blocking ips, i guess
04:19:00  <deoxxa>or specific keywords
04:19:06  <Sly>Hm..
04:19:07  <deoxxa>you kind of have to play it as it comes with something like that
04:19:09  <Sly>Did someone ping me earlier or something?
04:19:12  <coderarity>there are websites that collect IP's of bad people i think
04:19:18  <Sly>Came back with a highlight, but don't have the message in scrollback.
04:19:25  <deoxxa>yeah there's a bunch of DNSBL places
04:19:32  <coderarity>Sly: you don't log stuff?
04:19:34  <deoxxa>spamhaus, etc
04:19:41  <Sly>Nah, coderarity.
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04:20:24  <coderarity>Sly: it was probably just jesusabdullah saying lol
04:20:41  * jmar777joined
04:20:44  <coderarity>Sly: about your dog
04:20:53  <Sly>That had to be it, cause I left right after I said that.
04:21:07  <coderarity>i guess it was
04:21:12  <Sly>Thanks for letting me know.
04:21:16  <Sly>Would've bugged me until I found out.
04:21:16  <Sly>xD
04:21:25  <coderarity>:P
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04:22:33  <Sly>lol
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04:36:41  <harbhub>deoxxa: how do i test that my contact form blocks spam bots?
04:36:56  <deoxxa>host it
04:36:58  <deoxxa>check for spam
04:37:07  <AvianFlu>deoxxa: ++
04:37:07  <kohai>deoxxa has 4 beers
04:37:33  <harbhub>lol
04:37:34  <AvianFlu>harbhub: actual spam out in the wild is constantly changing
04:37:39  <AvianFlu>like most security concerns
04:37:42  <jfsiii>jesusabdullah: I had to run earlier so I don't know if I missed a suggestion for my version problem with `jitsu deploy`. Here's my attempt at explaining the situation https://gist.github.com/3695965
04:37:45  <harbhub>hmm
04:37:46  <AvianFlu>you have to watch it live and evolve with it
04:37:51  <harbhub>ok
04:37:55  <harbhub>sounds about right
04:38:03  <AvianFlu>you'll notice one get through and have to be like "oh! look at that!" and fix it
04:38:16  <AvianFlu>nothing quite compares to learning by doing :D
04:38:41  <Sly>Plus..
04:38:47  <Sly>With most of the email spambots I've seen lately..
04:38:55  <Sly>They send shit like "asdfasdfpsozxvoeanfposinfapwoeinfapeoifn <real message> asdfapsdofinasdfpoiansfdpiasdnfpoiansdfpoiasndf"
04:39:45  <Sly>They just randomize text so they can try to get around spam blocks that are targetted towards specific emails.
04:39:47  <st_luke>wondering how much of a masochist I am tonight and if I want to rewrite reprepro in node or if I should just know better and not bother
04:40:16  * SlyGoogles reprepro.
04:40:29  <deoxxa>i get so much viagra and penis enlargement spam to my work email
04:40:57  <deoxxa>if i accepted every single offer to enlarge my penis, i could just about reach to the moon by now
04:40:57  <Sly>Google does pretty good at blocking spam mail, as long as you stick to marking emails as spam.
04:40:58  <st_luke>deoxxa: that's cause your work does crappy spam filtering :P
04:41:13  <Sly>hahahaha. I know that's right, deoxxa.
04:41:16  <deoxxa>and i'd have a house made of viagra
04:41:37  <Sly>I'd be scared to have a house made out of viagra.
04:41:49  <Sly>Some old man come by and pull the wrong one out, and it'd all be over with.
04:42:13  <deoxxa>yeah the bad spam filtering at work is pretty much a joke
04:42:22  <deoxxa>i also get russian bride emails
04:42:29  <Sly>rofl
04:42:40  <deoxxa>i've been thinking maybe they should just be sending the penis spam to the russian brides
04:42:46  <Sly>I usually get the ones that are like "YOU HAVE $$$$$$$$$ IN AN OFFSHORE ACCOUNT! CLAIM IT NOW!"
04:42:47  <deoxxa>seems it'd cut out the middleman
04:42:53  <Sly>"We only need all of your information, and then you can have it!"
04:43:08  <deoxxa>i have one email account that gets nothing but french language spam
04:43:14  <deoxxa>i don't even know how that happened
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04:43:21  <deoxxa>like i literally get nothing but spam in french
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04:43:56  <AvianFlu>LE SPAM!
04:44:09  <Sly>I had a guy to email me trying to phish my Paypal account.. So I sent him an email back with his home address and work phone number.
04:44:12  <Sly>O:)
04:44:53  <Sly>Never sent me anything else.
04:44:56  <deoxxa>i wonder if i could make friends with a spammer
04:45:11  <deoxxa>open an email account that just gets spam
04:45:14  <deoxxa>reply to every message
04:45:20  <Sly>I tried to call his work phone.
04:45:22  <deoxxa>try make contact with a real person
04:45:22  <Sly>He wouldn't answer.
04:45:55  <Sly>I usually don't do that.. but when you start trying to fuck with my money, that's when it gets serious.l
04:45:57  <Sly>*serious.
04:46:07  <Sly>My family or my money. Only two things that'll set me off.
04:46:22  <Sly>And if the world didn't revolve around money, I wouldn't even care about that.
04:46:28  <Sly>But gotta have it to survive.
04:48:06  <Sly>http://pastebin.com/2qbRKh3R
04:48:07  <Sly>....
04:48:09  <Sly>#troll
04:50:29  <deoxxa>suckers
04:50:30  <deoxxa>mine is 6
04:50:45  <Sly>lol
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04:51:10  <Sly>I know it's a troll, but what's bad is that it has 200,000 views.. So I don't know if there are actually people that take it seriously.
04:51:11  <Sly>rofl
04:52:24  <deoxxa>http://thenextweb.com/insider/2012/09/10/godaddy-goes-down-taking-countless-websites-offline-anonymous-claims-responsibility/ haha
04:52:34  <Sly>Oh yeah. I already saw that.
04:52:39  <Sly>It was the hot topic in here earlier.
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04:52:47  <Sly>For like.. 10 minutes. Then everyone was over it.
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04:59:05  <Sly>I bet the guy that owns GoDaddy about had a heartattack when all of that went down.
04:59:26  <Sly>And Danica Patrick was standing behind him like "Where's my money, bitch?"
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05:05:16  <harbhub>i cant get full screen to work properly
05:05:25  <harbhub>i made a button that when you click it the screen goes full
05:05:26  <harbhub>but
05:05:33  <harbhub>i made another button to cancel full screen
05:05:36  <harbhub>and it doesnt work
05:05:37  <harbhub>o.0
05:05:42  <deoxxa>nodejitsu has full screen now?
05:05:48  <deoxxa>i didn't even know it had regular screen
05:05:57  <Sly>I think he's talking about his game.
05:06:05  <deoxxa>oh
05:06:09  <deoxxa>i guess that works
05:06:34  <harbhub>i'm talking about my website for my photographer friend
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05:06:45  <harbhub>i wanted to add a button to go to fullscreen on click
05:06:46  <Sly>Oh. Why do you need to make a button for full screen?
05:06:48  <harbhub>i got that working
05:06:50  <Sly>Can't your browser do it?
05:06:51  <harbhub>i dont lol
05:06:58  <harbhub>i just wanted to play with it
05:07:02  <Sly>Oh.
05:07:11  <harbhub>i got the function to call fullscreen
05:07:18  <harbhub>but the cancel wasnt working
05:07:33  <Sly>No clue.
05:07:37  <harbhub>yep
05:07:40  <harbhub>not a biggie
05:07:47  <Sly>You'd have to post code before I could help. xD
05:07:55  <harbhub>sure
05:08:35  <deoxxa>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4lvqf79c84 so good
05:09:27  <harbhub>https://gist.github.com/3696089
05:09:32  <harbhub>so the fullscreen button works
05:09:34  <Sly>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btPJPFnesV4 @ deoxxa
05:09:39  <Sly>What I'm listening to on our local radio station.
05:09:40  <harbhub>but the cancel full screen button doesnt work
05:09:47  <harbhub>apparently it is some issue with max
05:09:48  <deoxxa>wwwwwut
05:09:49  <harbhub>mac*
05:10:57  <Sly>Does it throw any errors in console?
05:11:01  <Sly>*in the console
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05:13:48  <Sly>And, to be honest with you.. I don't even see .webkitCancelFullScreen in the dev version of Chrome.
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05:14:56  <Sly>document.documentElement.webkitCancelFullScreen()
05:14:56  <Sly><Sly> TypeError: Object #<HTMLHtmlElement> has no method 'webkitCancelFullScreen'
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05:16:51  <harbhub>nope no errors
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05:17:06  <harbhub>hmm
05:17:09  <harbhub>it was on some website
05:17:13  <harbhub>let me look for the right way
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05:24:03  <harbhub>got it working
05:24:08  <harbhub>Sly: got it working
05:24:12  <harbhub>mozilla hacks ftw
05:27:14  <Sly>Cool deal.
05:28:42  <mdedetrich>does anyone know a good perfect no collision hash that is typically used for web applications (creating a file based on the current time in milliseconds)
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05:31:45  <harbhub>can you console.log from the client side?
05:33:16  <deoxxa>mdedetrich: no such thing
05:33:21  <jesusabdullah>harbhub: sometimes
05:33:30  <jesusabdullah>harbhub: it depends on the browser and which plugins you have loaded
05:33:36  <harbhub>oh
05:33:44  <mdedetrich>deoxxa: I'm pretty sure perfect hash's do exist
05:33:59  <deoxxa>mdedetrich: for a restricted keyspace, yes
05:34:13  <harbhub>what is a restricted keyspace?
05:34:30  <mdedetrich>well a perfect hash can create a hash with any variable length, so they do exist
05:34:48  <mdedetrich>the keyspace is only going to be integers or alphanumeric characters
05:35:01  <deoxxa>that's the...
05:35:05  <deoxxa>bah
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05:35:20  <mdedetrich>deoxxa?
05:41:27  <coderarity>that took an hour
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06:15:24  <mdedetrich>would http://www.adaltas.com/projects/node-sigar/ work on nodejitsu?
06:15:37  <jesusabdullah>probably not but you're welcome to try
06:16:26  <mdedetrich>well what I really want is to just get the mac address of the current machine
06:19:37  <mdedetrich>jesusabdullah: or is there some way to get a unique id for every drone in nodejitsu?
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06:20:08  <AvianFlu>mdedetrich: what are you trying to do?
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06:20:44  <mdedetrich>AvianFlu: are you in the node.js channel?
06:21:22  <mdedetrich>AvianFlu: if you read the recent discussion, it will answer your question
06:21:50  <AvianFlu>mdedetrich: the hostnames in the joyent cloud are uuids, just try to grab it
06:21:54  <mdedetrich>essentially I need to make a unique filename, if app scales horizontally you need to input a unique server id into the hash function (along with current time)
06:22:08  <AvianFlu>there's probably os.hostname() or something like that
06:22:18  <mdedetrich>AvianFlu: thanks, thats perfect
06:22:29  <mdedetrich>AvianFlu: so each drone with have a unique hostname?
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06:23:25  <AvianFlu>yeah
06:24:42  <sberryman_>AvianFlu: we finally got redis to release a new package without hiredis!
06:25:15  <sberryman_>https://github.com/mranney/node_redis/issues/258
06:26:13  <mdedetrich>awesomesauce
06:26:27  <mdedetrich>I wonder why hiredis is such an issue to compile on sunos
06:26:43  <sberryman_>something with the linker
06:26:45  <mdedetrich>well not compile but use]
06:26:47  <mdedetrich>with linker
06:26:48  <mdedetrich>yeah
06:26:57  <mdedetrich>solaris must be doing something very weird
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06:27:52  <sberryman_>wonder how the new build server roll out it going right now
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06:32:00  <mdedetrich>smarts is solaris right?
06:32:10  <mdedetrich>*smartos
06:32:19  <coderarity>yeah
06:32:32  <mdedetrich>that kinda seems weird
06:32:41  <mdedetrich>with the linker bug
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09:02:19  <mdedetrich>anyone here use rackspace cloudfiles?
09:02:46  <spey>hi guys! i still got weird session errors with mongo session on my deployed application the app.js is available here: https://gist.github.com/3691441 and the session test page is here http://lunchbunny.nodejitsu.com/session-test can anyone help?
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09:47:02  * mmaleckitopic: Nodejitsu - Host applications. Keep them up. | Cloud Status: all is well! | Maintenance in progress. Deploys are up. Running apps won't be affected.
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10:30:56  <yawnt>hellow
10:31:15  <mmalecki>yo
10:31:20  <coderarity>h
10:31:22  <coderarity>i
10:31:27  <coderarity>:D
10:31:29  <yawnt>i got into the list of nodester contributors lol
10:31:34  <yawnt>http://blog.geekli.st/post/31303088029/nodester-side-project-to-acquisition-in-18-months
10:31:37  <yawnt>dafuq..
10:31:42  <mmalecki>lulz how
10:31:44  <yawnt>i just submitted some useless bugfixes :P
10:31:50  <mmalecki>haha
10:31:55  <yawnt>oh well
10:32:13  <yawnt>now i can say "hey i was a core contributor in a startup that got acquired by AppFog ©"
10:32:14  <coderarity>too bad no one will use it now :\
10:32:26  <yawnt>thank you coderarity , destroy my good mood
10:32:29  <yawnt>:(
10:33:19  <coderarity>it could be worse, you could have created it
10:33:27  <yawnt>not
10:33:36  <yawnt>if i had created it it would have a test suite
10:33:43  <coderarity>it doesn't have tests?
10:33:45  <yawnt>that's why i stopped working on it in the first place
10:33:47  <yawnt>nop
10:33:48  <coderarity>.... i'm sorry
10:33:51  <coderarity>i didn't realize
10:33:56  <yawnt>don't be
10:34:07  <yawnt>i have just like 3 commits in there
10:34:27  <yawnt>they weren't using stuff like parseInt properly etc
10:34:35  <yawnt>so i fix'd that.. nothing really important :P
10:35:00  <coderarity>hmmm, tests
10:35:03  <coderarity>i have an idea
10:35:12  <mmalecki>EVERYONE DUCK
10:35:18  <mmalecki>HE HAS AN IDEA
10:35:48  * yawntdigs a trench
10:35:51  <coderarity>quack
10:35:57  <yawnt>wai
10:35:58  <yawnt>t
10:36:01  <yawnt>wrong word
10:36:01  <yawnt>lol
10:36:10  <yawnt>no wait
10:36:11  <yawnt>it's right
10:36:12  <yawnt>trench
10:36:18  <coderarity>that's the right word
10:36:19  <yawnt>like WW I
10:36:26  <coderarity>foxhole
10:36:28  <coderarity>is another one
10:36:29  <yawnt>yeah i had a moment of panick when i googled it
10:36:36  <yawnt>and came up with fashion stuff
10:36:38  <yawnt>lol
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10:37:37  <yawnt>right.. foxholes.. that's what they called it in Band of Brothers
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10:38:24  <coderarity>it's kind of different though
10:38:26  <yawnt>http://www.sleepio.com/ <- coderarity
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10:40:05  <coderarity>yawnt: that's a beautiful website
10:40:17  <coderarity>but i'm blessed with being absolutely amazing at sleeping
10:40:52  <coderarity>i get enough sleep, it's just terrible sleep, during the day
10:40:55  <coderarity>i can fix it, but it's hard
10:41:08  <yawnt>you told me you couldn't sleep
10:41:15  <yawnt>ok ( .-.)
10:41:21  <coderarity>yawnt: well, i meant i can't sleep at night
10:41:25  <coderarity>because i was so awake
10:41:29  <coderarity>because i was sleeping during the day
10:41:32  <yawnt>ah i see
10:41:34  <coderarity>that's what I meant, anyways
10:41:41  <yawnt>me too during summer
10:41:46  <yawnt>i just woke up actually
10:41:49  <yawnt>and it's
10:41:57  <yawnt>12:40
10:42:03  <coderarity>that's when i woke up today!
10:42:07  <coderarity>but that's really early for me
10:42:10  <coderarity>so i ended up taking a nap
10:42:14  <yawnt>4 AM?
10:42:15  <coderarity>i usually wake up around 4-5
10:42:27  <coderarity>no, PM
10:42:34  <yawnt>pm?
10:42:35  <yawnt>wat
10:42:37  <coderarity>yeah
10:42:39  <coderarity>it's really bad
10:42:40  <yawnt>cool
10:42:51  <yawnt>i slept til 3 pm once
10:42:55  <yawnt>like 13 hours of sleep at once
10:43:12  <yawnt>2 am - 3 pm
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10:43:21  <yawnt>but i was really really tired.. hadn't sleep for a week or so
10:43:38  <coderarity>man i hate that feeling
10:43:47  <coderarity>i can't sleep it off in one night, i have to spread it out over 2 nights
10:44:07  <yawnt>i love sleeping
10:44:11  <yawnt>so no problem :3
10:44:26  <booyaa>i need to find out where i read it, but you can only reclaim lost sleep for up to 3 days. so oversleeping on the 4th is pointless
10:44:45  <coderarity>oh really
10:44:45  <yawnt>maybe phisically
10:44:49  <yawnt>not mentally
10:44:49  <yawnt>:D
10:45:03  <yawnt>placebo effect
10:45:14  <yawnt>actually people who sleep 10+ hours a day
10:45:19  <yawnt>are more prone to depression and stuff
10:45:30  <yawnt>so i should start sleeping 7 hours or so
10:45:49  <booyaa>also undersleep has deterimental effect too
10:45:57  <yawnt>yep
10:45:58  <booyaa>you don't repair cells etc
10:46:01  <yawnt>7 hours is enough
10:46:04  <booyaa>that and mental filing
10:46:21  <coderarity>i read a really scary thing about undersleep
10:46:26  <coderarity>now i'm afraid i'm gonna like die
10:46:35  <coderarity>yawnt: really?
10:46:38  <booyaa>coderarity: did you read it in brain pickings?
10:46:43  <yawnt>coderarity: yeah
10:46:49  <coderarity>booyaa: it was a physical pamphlet thing
10:47:06  <yawnt>sleeping is serious shit
10:47:11  <booyaa>true dat
10:47:28  <booyaa>http://www.brainpickings.org/index.php/2012/08/13/the-twenty-four-hour-mind-rosalind-cartwright/
10:47:55  <coderarity>maybe i should sleep only 8 hours a day
10:47:57  <coderarity>at night
10:48:14  <coderarity>i wonder if that'd give me a ton of energy
10:48:17  <mmalecki>coderarity: that sounds like an idea XD
10:48:32  <mmalecki>the thing you don't want to do is interrupting the REM phase
10:48:52  <booyaa>our predecessors prior to the information age used to have two sleeps
10:49:03  <booyaa>often would wake up at midnight have a snack, drink then go back to sleep
10:49:05  <yawnt>mmalecki: totally
10:49:10  <yawnt>that SUCKS
10:49:15  <yawnt>i feel dead when it happens
10:49:16  <coderarity>i can't wake up in the middle of seleep
10:49:25  <coderarity>there can be an ambulance and i won't wake up
10:49:25  <booyaa>the sleeping through the whole night thing is a new thing
10:49:30  <booyaa>heh
10:49:35  * booyaais a deep sleeper
10:49:36  <yawnt>also another thing you shouldn't do
10:49:42  <yawnt>is wake up after 30+ minutes
10:49:51  <yawnt>because that's when you get into deep sleep
10:49:59  <booyaa>i'm also able to sleep in most places, floors, train luggage store
10:50:05  <yawnt>before is okay.. it's a nap.. after 30 minutes it's like you never had it or worse
10:50:05  <coderarity>yeah, me too
10:50:14  <yawnt>booyaa: i can't sleep in stuff that's moving
10:50:19  <booyaa>not the top shelf though that's kinda tricky to climb onto and the train guards get pissed off
10:50:26  <yawnt>when i went to the us i made 36 hours awake straight
10:50:28  <yawnt>:(
10:50:30  <booyaa>oh man trains are my favourite places to sleep
10:50:39  <yawnt>except boats
10:50:40  <booyaa>i struggle to sleep on planes though
10:50:43  <yawnt>i sleep okay on boats
10:50:45  <yawnt>and trains too
10:50:51  <yawnt>but cars and planes?
10:50:53  <yawnt>nop
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10:55:11  <ag4ve>how do i parse json in a flatiron / director app? i've tried JSON.parse(this.req.body) but it fails. i think because sometime before i get to it, the whole 'string' is converted to a key.
10:55:48  <ag4ve>i saw an intro that said there was supposed to be a req.body.js, but that didn't work either.
10:56:27  <coderarity>ag4ve: why is JSON.parse failing? what does the error say?
10:57:56  <ag4ve>http://pastebin.me/9c7119338e0214b998a648072207355c
10:58:44  <ag4ve>coderarity: ^^ is a bit old. i think i was giving invalid json there. i'll paste what i currently have in a sec ... same general thing, but...
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11:02:30  <ag4ve>coderarity: http://pastebin.me/9c7119338e0214b998a64807220a109a
11:07:33  <coderarity>you have like, a huge string as a key?
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11:08:58  <ag4ve>at any rate, i think it's failing becaus for some reason, something's doing "...":"" and turning the whole thing into a key with no value. i could fix the string easy enough, but that just seems very wrong - what is doing this?
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11:14:12  <chakrit>hmm... is req.body a string?
11:16:24  <yawnt>are you using bodyParser ag4ve ?
11:16:57  <ag4ve>no, i thought that was a connect/express thing?
11:17:34  <tralamaz>it's a connect middleware, which express just proxies
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11:18:10  <ag4ve>so, i would need to re-implement it in flatiron / director in order to parse json?
11:18:43  <yawnt>add it in the before array
11:18:49  <ag4ve>ie, director doesn't bring some type of body parser with it?
11:18:59  <ag4ve>ok
11:19:00  <yawnt>before: [ connect.bodyParser() ]
11:19:11  <ag4ve>i guess that makes sense
11:19:39  <tralamaz>union is connect middleware compatible
11:19:45  <tralamaz>so just app.use() it
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11:23:23  <jim_>Quick question: 1 drone = 1 node process running or 1 drone = multiple node processes running, but only 1 listening outside -- bound to port 80?
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11:24:19  <mmalecki>jim_: multiple processes, but only 1 listening
11:24:34  <mmalecki>you can spawn as many child_processes as you want
11:24:43  <jim_>Thanks.
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11:25:45  <deoxxa>as many as i want? HMMMMMMMMMM
11:26:07  <mmalecki>deoxxa: until you run out of memory, obviously :)
11:26:16  <deoxxa>function lol() { child_process.spawn("cat /dev/urandom"); process.nextTick(lol); }
11:26:26  <mmalecki>FALSE.
11:26:33  <deoxxa>almost definitely false
11:26:34  <deoxxa>yeah
11:26:36  <mmalecki>execve() error
11:26:43  <deoxxa>haha
11:27:07  <mmalecki>sorry, the Linux kernel in my head just wouldn't let it go
11:27:26  <jim_>Just how cozy is Nodejitsu with Joyent now? Are you folks going to offer a migration path to Joyent?
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11:28:02  <mmalecki>jim_: migration is easy, just create an account and `jitsu deploy` your application to nodejitsu. did you run into any problems?
11:28:15  <coderarity>ag4ve: it's not in director though
11:28:57  <ag4ve>coderarity: was that a decision or 0tuit?
11:28:58  <jim_>No issues, but what I was asking is a quick/simple path for moving to Joyent from Nodejitsu when/if Nodejistsu is outgrown.
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11:29:38  <coderarity>ag4ve: i mean, check out union for body parser stuff
11:29:45  <jim_>A 'one click' move a running app out of here kind of deal.
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11:30:22  <jim_>I'm a little fuzzy on the relationship between Joyent and Nodejitsu.
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11:30:45  <coderarity>jim_: our servers are joyent servers
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11:31:40  <coderarity>jim_: if you do outgrow nodejitsu we have things for that though
11:31:55  <jim_>Gotchya. What things?
11:32:23  <deoxxa>more jitsus
11:32:38  <coderarity>http://nodejitsu.com/enterprise.html
11:32:54  <coderarity>basically run your own nodejitsu afaik
11:33:27  <mmalecki>or we can scale up to more processes
11:33:32  <mmalecki>and load balance between them
11:33:46  <jim_>Oh yeah? Wacky. So what, license the the Nodejitsu "stuff" en masse?
11:33:52  <coderarity>jim_: i mean, you've got to be pretty big to outgrow nodejitsu
11:33:56  <mmalecki>but if you really outgrow us, we recommend what coderarity said :)
11:34:32  <coderarity>if you're facebook you probably won't fit on the public cloud ;P
11:35:01  <jim_>I use outgrow loosely. The limitation of only being able to listen on port 80, for example, is possibly a real problem for us.
11:35:08  <jetienne>mmalecki: btw are you going to onGameStart workshops ?
11:35:41  <jetienne>http://jsfiddle.net/jetienne/fdywk/ Wanna Learn how to do that ? Come to our 3D Game Workshop at onGameStart !!!
11:35:53  * jetienneis a car sale man this morning :)
11:36:14  <mmalecki>jetienne: not sure, I'm flying in quite late
11:36:45  <mmalecki>jim_: multiport apps are coming
11:36:47  <jetienne>mmalecki: ok. i keep on recruiting then :)
11:36:51  <mmalecki>haha :)
11:36:57  <mmalecki>ask on #node.js
11:37:04  <mmalecki>maybe someone's going to ogs too
11:37:21  <jim_>Good to hear. Are we talking weeks or months away?
11:38:10  <mmalecki>weeks I'd say
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11:55:57  <deoxxa>mmalecki: multiport meaning "things other than http"?
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11:56:28  <mmalecki>deoxxa: that too, yeah
11:56:39  <deoxxa>heh
11:56:39  <mmalecki>but also multiple http servers
11:56:57  <deoxxa>i just did up a system for that at work using seaport and some custom load balancing stuff
11:56:59  <deoxxa>was pretty fun
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11:57:59  <mmalecki>heh, I bet
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11:58:42  <deoxxa>i'm basically building an entire PaaS thing for my own personal use
11:58:49  <deoxxa>and every step of the way, it ends up saving me time
11:59:01  <mmalecki>dude, why not use nodejitsu?
11:59:03  <deoxxa>it's amazingly efficient to break things up into small parts
11:59:17  <deoxxa>because we have contractual obligations to keep all data in australia
11:59:22  <mmalecki>ah
11:59:27  <deoxxa>and yes, i know, the host-your-own thing
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11:59:47  <deoxxa>but there's also some other shitty things at our two largest clients' places
12:00:03  <deoxxa>basically there's about a week of document signing and phone calls to get anything deployed
12:00:20  <mmalecki>deoxxa: bro hug
12:00:21  <deoxxa>i don't even want to think about how long it would take to get something like nodejitsu enterprise approved
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12:06:26  <yawnt>lol
12:06:41  <yawnt>deoxxa: is building AUjitsu
12:06:51  <deoxxa>ha
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12:11:40  <ag4ve>i'm still unable to parse json into an object - something is messing up the json: http://pastebin.me/9c7119338e0214b998a64807220a7875
12:13:37  <ag4ve>if i input '{"a":"b"}' i get: {"[object Object]{\"a\":\"b\"}":""} wtf?
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12:13:58  <coderarity>that's really weird
12:14:12  <coderarity>it must be something in your code
12:17:20  <ag4ve>what the hell, i'm not doing anything yet: https://gist.github.com/3697982
12:18:35  <ag4ve>i mean, it's not even hitting the model....
12:21:06  <coderarity>do you know what the request looks like before it hits the server?
12:21:45  <yawnt>coderarity:
12:21:48  <yawnt>* ag4ve
12:21:57  <yawnt>you can't call json.parse on an object
12:22:05  <yawnt>line 17
12:22:08  <yawnt>and 18
12:22:52  <deoxxa>lol what
12:23:39  <coderarity>ag4ve: what does that json stringify return?
12:24:24  <ag4ve>it's what i've been pasting, this type of thing: {"[object Object]{\"a\":\"b\"}":""}
12:25:10  <coderarity>NOOOOOOOO
12:25:17  <ag4ve>and yawnt is right, it is an object
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12:26:02  <yawnt>yo, can debug code mentally
12:26:04  <yawnt>\m/
12:26:31  <deoxxa>i want to learn how to use broadway
12:26:35  <deoxxa>how do i do this
12:26:42  <yawnt>read broadway?
12:26:56  <coderarity>reading code is an awesome way to learn stuff
12:26:59  <ag4ve>... i'm still not seeing it?
12:27:00  <coderarity>but there's docs too
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12:27:20  <mmalecki>fun fact: https just got helluva faster on nodejitsu, thanks to indutny's patches
12:27:20  <deoxxa>i see
12:27:31  <yawnt>mmalecki: fun fact i really needed https
12:27:36  <yawnt>so i gotta buy indutny a beer
12:27:36  <deoxxa>oh is that the ssl pipe stuff inside libuv mmalecki?
12:27:49  <mmalecki>yawnt: you'll get a chance on lxjs
12:28:06  <mmalecki>deoxxa: nope, two patches, let me link you
12:28:07  <yawnt>mmalecki: wonderful
12:28:09  <deoxxa>oh
12:28:19  <yawnt>deoxxa: y u no coming to lxjs
12:28:21  <mmalecki>here, the ones mentioned in the commit message https://github.com/mmalecki/node/commit/cf80eb29acbf842f6874ea8f07e0eea6b9ebbdee
12:28:25  <yawnt>i should punch you in the face >.>
12:28:29  <deoxxa>i know he was talking about doing all ssl <-> socket stuff inside libuv instead of going into node-land
12:28:44  <mmalecki>I don't think it's implemented yet
12:28:47  <mmalecki>is it, indutny?
12:28:54  <coderarity>if deoxxa is in australia i doubt it's that fun to fly cross-planet :P
12:29:02  <deoxxa>yawnt: too far and bad timing :<
12:29:13  <deoxxa>yawnt: i'm only getting back home on the 24th
12:29:16  <deoxxa>can't leave again so soon haha
12:29:24  <yawnt>wat
12:29:26  <yawnt>where are you now?
12:29:29  <indutny>mmalecki: yeah
12:29:33  <indutny>mmalecki: not in libuv
12:29:40  <indutny>while I thought about it
12:29:43  <indutny>but w/o js
12:29:47  <indutny>I'm still working on it
12:29:51  <mmalecki>indutny: cool, let me know when it is, we'll test in production ;)
12:29:55  <yawnt>i really wanna learn how libuv works
12:30:04  <deoxxa>indutny: my bad, inside node, not libuv
12:30:05  <yawnt>i could to a porting to some other language
12:30:12  <yawnt>eg Node.rb
12:30:19  <yawnt>you could do dirty stuff with blocks :3
12:30:24  <indutny>hahaha
12:30:34  <xerox>http://nikhilm.github.com/uvbook/
12:30:44  <yawnt>yeah i'm reading that one
12:30:44  <yawnt>:D
12:31:02  <deoxxa>yawnt: right now i'm in australia, just going interstate from the 21st-23rd
12:31:03  <coderarity>port it to LISP
12:31:07  <coderarity>or Lisp?
12:31:09  <coderarity>or lisp?
12:31:16  <yawnt>Lisp
12:31:25  <coderarity>right
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12:31:27  <coderarity>port it there
12:31:28  <yawnt>coderarity: yeah well there's clojurescript
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12:31:42  <yawnt>so it isn't really worth it
12:31:44  <coderarity>yawnt: ewww compiles to JS
12:31:51  <yawnt>so what?
12:31:56  <yawnt>it's not like coffeescript or stuff
12:32:00  <deoxxa>ugh, i know this guy who won't stfu about clojure
12:32:01  <yawnt>it's a language
12:32:08  <coderarity>intermediate steps
12:32:09  <deoxxa>keeps saying it's the best thing ever
12:32:15  <coderarity>requires building
12:32:22  <coderarity>weird debugging
12:32:26  <deoxxa>"yeah i'm using node right now, but i think clojure will be big in the next couple of years!"
12:32:30  <yawnt>deoxxa: clojure is really cool
12:32:35  <ag4ve>coderarity yawnt: so, what did i miss with that object?
12:32:37  <yawnt>except the people that work on it
12:32:44  <yawnt>that's total bullshit
12:32:50  <yawnt>they don't accept PR in the main repo
12:32:56  <yawnt>'nuff said
12:33:09  <deoxxa>yawnt: the fact that this guy loves it makes me really scared of it, because he just gets things wrong alllllll the time
12:33:21  <yawnt>you have to fork, generate a patch with git, then submit the patch to their bug tracker
12:33:24  <deoxxa>he's one of those "coffeescript is good" guys
12:33:32  <yawnt>wait a bazillion years to see it reviewed and hopefully approved
12:33:35  <yawnt>it just sucks
12:33:41  <coderarity>ag4ve: what does your request look like? are you curling it?
12:33:51  <ag4ve>yes
12:34:04  <yawnt>deoxxa: nah, clojure is actually quite nice.. give it a shot
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12:34:09  <ag4ve>curl http://127.0.0.1:3000/fr -i -X POST -d '{"a":"b"}'
12:34:22  <coderarity>i see
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12:34:30  <yawnt>ag4ve: that's a string
12:34:33  <yawnt>like
12:34:34  <yawnt>it's wrong
12:34:37  <yawnt>with curl it's like
12:34:44  <yawnt>-d 'value=something"
12:34:57  <coderarity>shouldn't matter
12:34:58  <deoxxa>nah, -d <data> works too
12:35:01  <yawnt>really?
12:35:03  <deoxxa>yep
12:35:07  <yawnt>cool
12:35:08  <coderarity>yawnt: he's sending JSON
12:35:11  <yawnt>oooh
12:35:11  <deoxxa>there's -F for fields
12:35:13  <deoxxa>-F a=b
12:35:16  <yawnt>json
12:35:22  <yawnt>hadn't noticed
12:35:23  <yawnt>my bad
12:35:25  <deoxxa>heh
12:35:42  <yawnt>i'll go swimming in half an hour
12:35:43  <yawnt>\ò/
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12:35:53  <deoxxa>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67ncVESJ6mM i love this track so much
12:36:43  <coderarity>ag4ve: maybe look through and see if any of your middlewares are causing it? try removing the middlewares and see what you get??
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12:36:56  <yawnt>wow
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12:37:02  <yawnt>i didn't know this
12:37:35  <yawnt>irb(main):001:0> burp = ->(a, b) { a+b }
12:37:38  <ag4ve>good point
12:37:39  <yawnt>irb(main):003:0> burp.call 4,5
12:37:44  <yawnt>:o
12:38:20  <coderarity>we interrupt this message for POWER METAL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEUjbBMOUBg
12:38:58  <coderarity>you may continue living now :P
12:39:08  <yawnt>i'm listening to sherlock's soundtrack
12:39:09  <yawnt>(again)
12:39:12  <yawnt>with headphones coderarity
12:39:15  <mmalecki>can't. fall. asleep. must. finish. deploy.
12:39:17  <yawnt>i live my life dangerously
12:39:25  <yawnt>\s
12:39:26  <mmalecki>throw some loud music at me
12:39:35  <yawnt>sure
12:39:36  <yawnt>hold on
12:39:43  <coderarity>loud music?
12:39:45  <coderarity>i specialize in this
12:39:52  <mmalecki>FUCKING LOUD AND FUCKING POWERFUL
12:39:55  <yawnt>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGYjlbSWm3g
12:39:56  <yawnt>mmalecki: ^
12:40:30  <mmalecki>enqueued!
12:40:39  <coderarity>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqI-6xag8Mg
12:40:43  <yawnt>mmalecki: it's a song they sing to little kids when they can't sleep
12:40:51  <yawnt>i wouldn't listen to it if i were you, really
12:41:00  <yawnt>it's like.. the final knockout
12:41:05  <mmalecki>...
12:41:06  <yawnt>if you're sleepy
12:41:08  <yawnt>D:
12:41:18  <yawnt>srsly
12:41:21  <yawnt>gonna get some good music
12:41:22  <yawnt>wait
12:41:44  <coderarity>mmalecki: ^ and also check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYdzxkTwo8A
12:41:59  <yawnt>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3kvZGWNgos
12:42:01  <coderarity>loud music ftw
12:42:06  <yawnt>if you sleep with this one, you're hopeless lol
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12:42:10  <yawnt>slipknot ftw
12:42:27  <coderarity>slipknot's pretty good
12:42:31  <yawnt>yeah
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12:42:56  <yawnt>slipknot + coffee with ice cubes = no sleep
12:43:05  <yawnt>you could keep up for a week lol
12:43:11  <yawnt>espresso obv
12:43:14  <coderarity>i fall sleep to slipknot
12:43:19  <mmalecki>my heart hurts already, I'd prefer to avoid it, actually
12:43:34  <mmalecki>this might be heartburn too tho
12:43:45  <mmalecki>actually, heartburn is more likely
12:45:24  <yawnt>http://dubjs.org/blog/intro
12:45:28  <yawnt>big no no from me
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12:45:46  <mmalecki>god what
12:45:48  <mmalecki>it's like
12:45:49  <mmalecki>php
12:45:51  <yawnt>yeah
12:45:52  <mmalecki>except js
12:46:00  <yawnt>>big no no from me
12:46:05  <mmalecki>and asp too
12:46:23  <yawnt>i wonder what makes people do that
12:46:26  <yawnt>it's useless
12:46:29  <yawnt>like literally useless
12:46:39  <yawnt>the only step forward i've seen in web apps is something like derby
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12:52:55  <yawnt>i'm going to da swimming pool
12:53:07  <yawnt>later fellas
12:53:15  <coderarity>bye
12:53:42  <mmalecki>see you
12:56:44  <deoxxa>wheeee
12:57:33  <deoxxa>lol what, dubjs
12:57:42  <deoxxa>dude can't even spell
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12:59:09  <coderarity>i like to think i can spell, but sometimes i'm just a terrible typist :P
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13:12:20  <yawnt>that was a quick swim
13:12:24  <yawnt>pool was closed
13:12:25  <yawnt>again
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13:19:21  <deoxxa>yawnt: due to...
13:23:01  <yawnt>deoxxa: yesterday they were cleaning it
13:23:08  <deoxxa>so not aids
13:23:11  <yawnt>today winter schedule started
13:23:21  <yawnt>WINTER
13:23:21  <deoxxa>http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/pools-closed
13:23:25  <yawnt>in september
13:23:26  <yawnt>WINTER
13:23:31  <deoxxa>lel
13:23:46  <mmalecki>which reminds me, I wanted to go swimming today
13:23:49  <mmalecki>I have a nearby lake
13:23:53  <mmalecki>which is pretty awesome
13:24:26  <deoxxa>lake's closed due to... influenza?
13:24:39  <yawnt>lol
13:24:43  <yawnt>mmalecki: lake?
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13:24:52  <yawnt>isn't it like cold in poland right now?
13:24:55  <yawnt>i mean, colder than here
13:24:56  <yawnt>:|
13:25:22  <mmalecki>it's like 23 degrees now
13:25:39  <yawnt>:|
13:25:40  <mmalecki>oh wow
13:25:46  <yawnt>and you go swimming with 23 degrees outside?
13:25:49  <mmalecki>google's saying that it's 30
13:25:56  <yawnt>ok 30 is hot
13:26:03  <mmalecki>yawnt: 23 would be good too
13:26:06  <yawnt>:||
13:26:08  <mmalecki>and I'd definitely go swimming
13:26:14  <yawnt>lol
13:26:22  <yawnt>poland is carved from ice
13:26:25  <mmalecki>srsly, that's pretty warm
13:26:40  <yawnt>cool
13:26:49  <yawnt>i love lakes
13:26:56  <yawnt>they're fun to swim in
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14:00:40  <yawnt>lol
14:00:46  <yawnt>i'm using github as my cdn for js scripts
14:00:49  <yawnt>i feel bad
14:01:26  <mmalecki>yes, yes, you should
14:01:39  <yawnt>i submitte a PR to cdnjs
14:01:48  <yawnt>so i won't be using github for long, just for testing
14:01:50  <yawnt>:)
14:03:19  <mmalecki>yawnt: I just made spaghetti with mushrooms and corn
14:03:40  <yawnt>tasty
14:03:45  <mmalecki>and bolognese sauce
14:03:49  <yawnt>wuut?
14:03:53  <yawnt>bolognese sauce is great
14:03:53  <yawnt>:
14:03:56  <yawnt>:D congrat
14:04:17  <yawnt>isn't it great to cook stuff instead of depending on precooked food ?
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14:04:38  <mmalecki>fuck yeah it is
14:05:15  <mmalecki>fun thing is, I always considered time to be an argument
14:05:24  <mmalecki>turns out I'd spend more time getting to the restaurant
14:05:30  <yawnt>yeah
14:05:35  <yawnt>most recipes are actually quite fast
14:05:42  <yawnt>plus you can do other stuff while waiting
14:06:11  <yawnt>btw
14:06:12  <yawnt>http://www.italyum.com/
14:06:16  <yawnt>i found ths.. it's in english
14:06:40  <mmalecki>lolnice, do want
14:06:42  <mmalecki>yawnt: ++
14:06:43  <kohai>yawnt has 17 internets
14:06:51  <yawnt>it's free, just choose a recipe D:
14:07:01  <yawnt>there's also an iOS app
14:07:05  <yawnt>http://www.italyum.com/italian-recipes/pizza-recipes/pizza-using-fresh-yeast.html#.UE9FLoq_JhE
14:07:08  <yawnt>:D
14:07:34  <yawnt>and there are like images for everything
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14:07:38  <yawnt>so you can't get stuff wrong
14:08:15  <mmalecki>what I'd really want is a site like that hosted on github...
14:09:00  <yawnt>so you can pull request your recipes or open issues?
14:09:01  <yawnt>lol
14:09:08  <mmalecki>yes!
14:09:22  <yawnt>haha
14:09:27  <yawnt>i'm seriously considering it
14:09:35  <yawnt>but i'm not that good at writing
14:09:36  <yawnt>cooking.js
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14:10:18  <deoxxa>fork it, change all ingredients to various cheeses
14:10:23  <yawnt>lol
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14:20:44  <deoxxa>hey yawnt
14:20:58  <deoxxa>when you make spaghetti bolognaise, do you put sausage in
14:21:47  <yawnt>no
14:21:59  <deoxxa>omg
14:22:08  * deoxxashakes head
14:22:13  <yawnt>well sorry
14:22:18  <yawnt>if i cook the original recipe
14:22:21  <yawnt>>:(
14:22:26  <deoxxa>haha
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14:32:35  <jtnt>hey, just poking around; can I deploy direct from github?
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14:33:07  <deoxxa>jtnt: not yet, not officially
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14:33:29  <jtnt>oh, hey deoxxa. thanx.
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14:35:40  <kukkelund>Hello everybody. I'm having trouble with "socket hang up" during deploy
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14:36:57  <kukkelund>Does anybody know how i can fix this?
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14:37:46  <kukkelund>Read on github that this type of error required me to seek support in the IRC channel
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14:39:01  <mmalecki>kukkelund: hey, what's your username and appname?
14:39:25  <kukkelund>username: tomedvardsen, appname: tomedvardsen.no
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14:42:35  <mmalecki>kukkelund: may I see your jitsu log?
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14:43:16  <kukkelund>sure. paste it here?
14:44:02  <mmalecki>nope, gist.github.com please :)
14:44:42  <yawnt>how do i find the code for the enter symbol?
14:44:54  <kukkelund>https://gist.github.com/3699251
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14:46:27  <mmalecki>kukkelund: oh, I see. we're dealing with it as we speak
14:47:05  <kukkelund>Allrighty, then. I'll just try again later:) Thanks!
14:47:22  <mmalecki>kukkelund: it's a matter of 5 minutes :)
14:47:54  <kukkelund>Sweet!
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14:55:20  <hiattp>hey guys. i'm getting a socket hang up error on deploy
14:55:57  <hiattp>https://gist.github.com/3699386
14:56:25  <hiattp>oops, that was the first error. then i deployed again and got:
14:56:29  <mmalecki>working on it
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14:56:47  <hiattp>https://gist.github.com/3699396
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14:59:52  <mmalecki>hiattp, kukkelund: can you guys try now please :) ?
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15:00:53  <hiattp>yep, worked that time thanks!
15:00:58  <mmalecki>hiattp: also, your jitsu appears to be out of data, what's your `jitsu -v`?
15:01:07  <mmalecki>s/data/date/
15:01:29  <mmalecki>(I'm seeing API requests specific to older versions)
15:02:05  <hiattp>yeah its 0.8.8, i had tried updating a few weeks ago and was having all kinds of problems. im up against a deadline right now but i'll update after
15:02:16  <mmalecki>cool :)
15:02:28  <mmalecki>you're missing out on zero-downtime deploys
15:02:47  <hiattp>yeah looking forward to it!
15:02:50  <hiattp>ttyl
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15:14:06  <sreehari>Hi everyone, I'm getting an error, during deployment
15:14:20  <sreehari>This is the log https://gist.github.com/3699511
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15:16:37  <kukkelund>mmalecki, yeah it works now:)
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15:29:08  <yawnt>oh github github
15:29:14  <yawnt>why are you so down during these days
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15:31:44  <yawnt>http://jstherightway.com/
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15:32:52  <booyaa>it's not related to godaddy's dns snafu is it?
15:34:46  <mikeputnam>10:28 < github> [71] We're down for emergency db maintenance. Investigating now. Updates at http://t.co/h0d4bRxu <status.github.com>
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15:36:22  <yawnt>no
15:36:32  <yawnt>even though github's domain is godaddy's
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16:06:06  <st_luke>HAXX
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16:07:53  <mmalecki>dang, I wanted to go swimming today, suddenly, wind
16:12:29  <yawnt>i'm leaving in 20 mins
16:12:43  <yawnt>if pool ain't open i i'm going back with hand granades
16:12:47  <mmalecki>lol
16:13:34  <yawnt>YES
16:13:35  <yawnt>GITHUB UP
16:13:37  <yawnt><3
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16:14:33  <tralamaz>gitorious probably got hammered in the meantime
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16:29:08  <st_luke>hij1nx: nice email
16:29:10  <mprem>confused about your pricing
16:29:48  <mprem>are individua plans and sandbox same?
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16:30:54  <mprem>wondering why both plans are clubbed under individual plans?
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16:39:50  <fooman>does anyone know how I can get PostgreSQL working with nodejitsu? I tried using heroku's hosted postgres solution -- but apparently I need the native c bindings for the pg node module in order to do an SSL connection to heroku
16:40:31  <mmalecki>yawnt: ^
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16:52:11  <fooman>anyone know about postgresql on nodejitsu?
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16:53:25  <AvianFlu>fooman: we have the postgres client lib installed
16:53:27  <AvianFlu>it should work just fine
16:53:58  <AvianFlu>there's a chance a few of the servers are missing it, but it's something we support
16:54:05  <AvianFlu>so if it's failing, we can help you fix it
16:54:13  <AvianFlu>if you're asking before you try, though, go right ahead!
16:54:31  <fooman>yeah it's failing for me. put in a few hours working on it last night and got nowhere
16:54:38  <fooman>let me try against and paste a gist
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16:54:43  <fooman>again*
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16:58:07  <Sly>Good afternoon, everyone. :P
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17:03:22  <jaha>getting an deploy error: readline.js:98
17:03:22  <jaha> var winSize = output.getWindowSize();
17:03:22  <jaha> ^
17:03:22  <jaha>TypeError: Object #<MuteStream> has no method 'getWindowSize'
17:04:13  <AvianFlu>jaha: what node version
17:04:14  <AvianFlu>0.6?
17:05:10  <jaha>0.6.19
17:05:18  <jaha>deploying to 0.6.x
17:05:22  <AvianFlu>jaha: if you upgrade to 0.8, it should fix it
17:05:37  <AvianFlu>it's a windows readline bug of some kind
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17:06:01  <jaha>ok, youre hosting is still 0.6 though right?
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17:06:19  <Sly>yawnt, <3
17:06:33  <AvianFlu>jaha: yes, we are
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17:06:37  <AvianFlu>for at least the rest of the year
17:06:52  <AvianFlu>well, as long as core is still supporting it, we will, and then we'll see
17:07:10  <AvianFlu>as I understand it, they'll continue maintenance patches until the end of 2012
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17:09:15  <fooman>@AvianFlu - postgres does work, i don't know what the heck i was running into last night
17:09:37  <mmalecki>fooman: I think I know
17:09:49  <mmalecki>we removed a batch of servers without some updates recently
17:09:57  <mmalecki>that was it, most likely
17:10:02  <fooman>thank you very much, love the support here. this is what makes me choose nodejitsu over any other provider. i can't get this level of service anywhere else
17:10:09  <fooman>ah gotcha, thank you @mmalecki
17:10:27  <mmalecki>great to hear that :)
17:10:55  <jaha>ditto on the "love of the support"
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17:12:59  <Sly>Ohai, mmalecki.
17:13:03  <Sly>Didn't expect you to be online. :P
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17:13:34  <mmalecki>Sly: why? it's only 7 PM
17:14:03  <mmalecki>except in last 48 hours I slept half an hour or so
17:14:13  <Sly>lol
17:14:45  <Sly>I'm hardly ever around at this time, so I was just shocked to see you here right now.
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17:22:01  <Sly>Mighty quiet in here. :x
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17:26:26  <yawnt>vacj ub vkacj
17:26:30  <yawnt>ehm
17:26:31  <yawnt>back in black
17:26:39  <yawnt>fingers were one key off
17:27:01  <yawnt>that felt good.. swimming <3
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17:44:33  <graeme_f>hey guys, thought i'd try to deploy my wip app but I keep getting "Error running command deploy/socket hang up" or sometimes an out of memory/500 error from the server
17:45:03  <graeme_f>(note: imma nodejitsu beginner :P)
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17:47:33  <graeme_f>oh, it does seem to be running now… i'll investigate further so ignore me for now...
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17:48:30  <AvianFlu>graeme_f: let us know if you keep having problems
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17:48:55  <graeme_f>will do, cheers :)
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18:25:22  <yawnt>nutella and pancakes.. big win
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18:28:05  <thurmda>I just got Marak's email…. Is the hook.io project now dead? Will there be any further development on it?
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18:30:03  <fooman>hey guys. if i am setting up an amazon dynamo db to use with nodejitsu, overall what would be my best choice for an availability zone? northern california or virginia?
18:30:48  <AvianFlu>virginia
18:31:21  <fooman>ok cool, thank you again @AvianFlu
18:31:35  <fooman>saves me a little money too :)
18:32:05  <AvianFlu>thurmda: it's not completely clear, but there will be a maintainer
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18:32:39  <thurmda>Cool
18:33:04  <thurmda>I've had it in production for close to a year
18:34:06  <thurmda>It's been solid but it's always nice to have an active group if you need help.
18:34:19  <AvianFlu>definitely
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18:36:26  <thurmda>Speaking of… I haven't looked at this in a long long while but… I've had a pull request in for winston-syslog https://github.com/indexzero/winston-syslog/pull/3
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18:36:50  <thurmda>any ideas how to prod that along?
18:37:05  <thurmda>Charlie is very busy these days
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18:37:25  <AvianFlu>I can get repo access from him
18:37:31  <AvianFlu>but he's on a plane to china right now, so
18:37:34  <AvianFlu>it'll have to wait a bit :(
18:37:42  <thurmda>no rush
18:37:55  <thurmda>it's been sitting for 7 months , ha
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18:38:47  <thurmda>hopefully someone else fixed the same in another branch… but without those changes it doesn't actually write to syslog
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18:58:22  <graeme_f>right, i'm stumped now, keep getting this (although it did work with an earlier snapshot): https://gist.github.com/44387c5c8d559814035b
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18:58:59  <AvianFlu>graeme_f: I can take a look in a few minutes
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18:59:23  <graeme_f>cool, no hurry AvianFlu, i just can't get any further on the info i have :)
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19:00:18  <graeme_f>oh hang on, more stuff has appeared in my log now
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19:00:31  <graeme_f>i'll have another look
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19:01:53  <graeme_f>but if you do have any pointers as to what "socket hang up" typically indicates when deploying that would be handy :)
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19:13:50  <st_luke>lmao
19:14:02  <st_luke>I love getting called out for openly mocking the project manager during a standup
19:14:09  <st_luke>"what are you, 5?"
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19:14:38  <mmalecki>lulz
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19:16:07  <mmalecki>I'm too lazy to OH that
19:16:10  <mmalecki>AvianFlu: would you?
19:16:29  <AvianFlu>too busy
19:16:44  <mmalecki>GOD DAMN IT, I HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING BY MYSELF
19:16:46  <blakmatrix>graeme_f: this.httpServer.address().port : TypeError: Cannot read property 'port' of null
19:17:31  <mmalecki>THERE.
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19:18:13  <blakmatrix>graeme_f: thats at lib/HttpServer.js:14
19:18:49  <mmalecki>.address() can only be called in/after `listening` callback
19:19:10  <mmalecki>httpServer.listen(port, function () { httpServer.address(); })
19:22:05  <st_luke>mmalecki: lmao
19:22:08  <st_luke>you're blowing up my spot
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19:23:11  <yawnt>http://yeoman.io/index.html
19:23:20  <mmalecki>st_luke: THERE, FIXED
19:23:22  <st_luke>hahaha
19:26:24  <dscape>yawnt: i looked at the video
19:26:28  <dscape>and after 2seconds
19:26:36  <dscape>i felt sick the arrogance of the person on the video
19:26:43  <dscape>with the*
19:26:58  <dscape>unlikely something i would use or inspire any confidence
19:28:02  <yawnt>dscape: i'd just like to know WHY
19:28:21  <yawnt>i've always been skeptical with stuff that provides an all in one solution
19:28:38  <yawnt>am i the only one who likes small tweaked tools that get the job done?
19:28:40  <yawnt>bah
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19:29:50  <yawnt>also i should run a curl against unknown site an sh it? nothx |:
19:31:25  <dscape>i just have a very low tolerance for people who are so much into themselves and so little into changing the world
19:31:30  <dscape>bores me to death
19:31:42  <yawnt>lol
19:31:43  <yawnt>true that
19:32:11  <yawnt>it's funny because you can see he's forcing that behaviour
19:32:39  <dscape>then again, i should probably refrain from making such comments in public
19:32:49  <dscape>whatever, let them be. but i wouldnt use that tool :P
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19:33:02  <yawnt>too late
19:33:13  <yawnt>i got you screenshot'd and uploaded everything to the internet
19:33:18  <dscape>ahah
19:33:29  <yawnt>i want a big red button
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19:33:34  <yawnt>just like the one in the movies
19:33:39  <yawnt>with "to the internet" written on it
19:33:50  <dscape>i guess im screwed then
19:33:55  <yawnt>yeah
19:34:05  <dscape>ill call bruce willis to hijack the trailer you live in
19:34:07  <dscape>and kick your ass
19:34:14  <dscape>before you press the big red button
19:34:23  <mmalecki>dscape: protip, he's coming to lxjs
19:34:28  <graeme_f>@blakmatrix: thanks - so does socket hang up just mean it crashed on startup?
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19:34:49  <mmalecki>dscape: actually, listen!
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19:35:13  <mmalecki>I need a personal cook. I'll kindap him, you'll grab his laptop and delete pictures
19:35:14  <yawnt>mmalecki: the only reason i'm coming to lisbon is to steal the recipes of those dishes dscape keeps tweeting
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19:35:31  <dscape>which reminds me the carbonara is not going to cook itself
19:35:47  <yawnt>dscape: sweet bacon
19:35:52  <yawnt>that's the trick
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19:35:59  <yawnt>and a lot of eggs
19:37:01  <yawnt>actually how do you call the cheek of a pig?
19:37:16  <yawnt>(pig ? pork? after it's been butchered)
19:38:45  <mmalecki>yawnt: I made spaghetti today
19:38:52  <yawnt>\ò/
19:38:56  <blakmatrix>graeme_f: most of the time, it means that the connection was closed as a result of *something*
19:39:01  <mmalecki>with pasta, mushrooms, corn and bolognese sauce
19:39:04  <yawnt>i just made pancakes because i bought nutella
19:39:13  <yawnt>hoya blakmatrix ò/
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19:39:26  <yawnt>mmalecki: try the recipe i gave you
19:39:30  <blakmatrix>ö
19:39:34  <yawnt>i guarantee it's great
19:39:53  <yawnt>the one with ricotta and pine nuts
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19:46:15  <graeme_f>mmalecki: just realised you were talking to me - cheers ;)
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19:54:30  <graeme_f>looks like nodejitsu will be representin' at node dublin
19:54:42  <mmalecki>OH HELL YEAH WE WILL
19:54:56  <mmalecki>expect epic partying with me and AvianFlu
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19:55:44  <graeme_f>can't wait :D
19:55:47  <yawnt>lol
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20:02:21  <st_luke>tmpvar: when's the tmpad kickstarter happening? :D
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20:16:15  <ph0n3tic>Hey guys, I'm trying to create a database with the command : jitsu databases create mongo <dbname>. I get a strange error: https://gist.github.com/3701675
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20:20:03  <blakmatrix>ph0n3tic: that's odd
20:20:17  <blakmatrix>ph0n3tic: does it do it again?
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20:20:39  <AvianFlu>ph0n3tic: what jitsu version
20:20:45  <AvianFlu>you might have to uninstall and reinstall
20:20:58  <blakmatrix>AvianFlu: the jitsu version is in the gist
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20:21:21  <ph0n3tic>yup, even stranger is when i run databases list: https://gist.github.com/3701703
20:21:50  <blakmatrix>ph0n3tic: what do you get when you run `node -v`?
20:22:05  <ph0n3tic>0.8.0
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20:23:09  <ph0n3tic>should I be on 0.8.9?
20:23:24  <blakmatrix>ph0n3tic: try reinstalling jitsu like AvianFlu mentioned `npm remove jitsu -g`,`npm cache clear`, `npm i jitsu -g`
20:23:34  <ph0n3tic>Will do. Thanks
20:23:43  <AvianFlu>sometimes dependency versions can get stuck
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20:34:59  <ph0n3tic>reinstalling it got everything back to normal. thanks!
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20:45:45  <webrover>Hi folks, I'm having some problems deploying my app
20:46:55  <AvianFlu>webrover: which kind
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20:47:21  <webrover>something to do with redis, the hiredis driver.
20:47:35  <AvianFlu>update your node_redis
20:47:39  <AvianFlu>to 0.8.0
20:47:41  <AvianFlu>if possible
20:47:56  <AvianFlu>it removes that parser entirely in favor of a js parser that's significantly faster
20:48:21  <webrover>you mean the redis package ?
20:48:25  <AvianFlu>yep
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20:49:42  <webrover>well, i thought the hiredis package contained drivers in C which was faster, will give it a shot again.
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20:53:20  <bmatschullat>@webrover i would update to version 0.8.1 off node-redis. there is a bug fix with null responses… maybe u step in this bug, too
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21:08:42  <kevwil>is it possible to have an app serve its own SSL? I'd like to experiment with SPDY.
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21:09:40  <kevwil>(re: https://github.com/nodejitsu/handbook#ssl-certificates-for-custom-domains)
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21:11:29  <garrettwilkin>seems like every time i check my app, its not working (?)
21:11:52  <garrettwilkin>i think i picked a rough time to start using nodejitsu
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21:12:29  <garrettwilkin>are the same issues on the other service levels? Or are we on a more experimental version ? Is that way we have stability issues?
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21:16:46  <mmalecki>garrettwilkin: what do you mean by 'not working'?
21:17:10  <garrettwilkin>this is a common one that i get
21:17:15  <garrettwilkin>mmalecki: [09/11 17:08:27 EDT] warn: error raised: Error: listen EACCES
21:17:44  <mmalecki>what port are you trying to listen on?
21:17:50  <garrettwilkin>80
21:18:03  <mmalecki>please listen on port > 1024, like 8000 or so
21:18:09  <garrettwilkin>i connect to a MongoDB on port 27017, but thats hosted remotely
21:18:44  <garrettwilkin>oh.. will nodejitsu redirect port 80 to the port that I'm listening on?
21:18:48  <mmalecki>yeah
21:18:53  <garrettwilkin>ooooh :)
21:19:03  <garrettwilkin>okay great
21:19:14  <garrettwilkin>ill give that a go. I guess I missed that in the handbook
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21:38:52  <garrettwilkin>mmalecki: hopefully my app will run on 8080 on nodejitsu now, based on environment variables.
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21:49:26  <webrover>folks, is it possible to run coffeescript directly using 'coffee' instead of 'node' ? just wondering.
21:50:10  <garrettwilkin>do i need to explicitly stop my app when doing a deploy?
21:50:24  <garrettwilkin>It seems that deploy fails if my app is running, but if I stop it first, it tends to work.
21:51:19  <mmalecki>garrettwilkin: what's your jitsu version?
21:51:26  <mmalecki>webrover: yeah
21:51:39  <garrettwilkin>mmalecki: 0.9.8
21:52:05  <mmalecki>it should definitely work
21:52:19  <mmalecki>that's how zero-downtime works
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21:56:57  <webrover>mmalecki: Thx
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22:09:40  <fooman>is there a way to use private github repos as a dependency? i know git urls are supported, but what if the repo is not public?
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22:14:25  <fooman>anyone know if there a way to use private github repos as a dependency? i know git urls are supported, but what if the repo is not public?
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22:14:36  <blakmatrix>fooman: not that i know
22:15:52  <fooman>ah ok. thanks
22:16:18  <AvianFlu>blakmatrix: fooman: bundleDependencies
22:16:21  <AvianFlu>clone it locally, and bundle it
22:16:23  <AvianFlu>so it uploads
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22:17:02  <blakmatrix>oh yeah, you can bundle it fooman check out http://package.json.jit.su
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22:17:35  <blakmatrix>but downloading it dynamically can prove to be difficult
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23:25:28  <harbhub>hey fellas
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23:37:04  <harbhub>what does rel='canonical' mean?
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23:56:50  <sberryman>just an FYI.. i can't load logs on develop.nodejitsu.com ("No logs found." and before that got a "socket time out" error) but works fine using jitsu from command line
23:56:59  <harbhub>hey coderarity
23:57:02  <coderarity>hi
23:57:10  <harbhub>i'm wondering your thoughts on something
23:57:20  <harbhub>so i have jplayer working in a test app
23:57:27  <sberryman>and they are back
23:57:29  <coderarity>jplayer?
23:57:37  <harbhub>it is a music player
23:57:41  <harbhub>well, an audio player
23:57:44  <sberryman>i should start a 5 minute timer every time i notice something not working before i say anything in here :)
23:57:52  <coderarity>i see
23:57:56  <harbhub>so
23:58:02  <harbhub>it links to the song
23:58:05  <harbhub>and then i have play button etc
23:58:22  <harbhub>for instace
23:58:30  <harbhub>for instance in the demo: http://www.jplayer.org/audio/mp3/TSP-01-Cro_magnon_man.mp3
23:58:38  <harbhub>is the reference link used to get the song
23:58:39  <harbhub>so
23:58:51  <harbhub>i can use a file base to store audio files
23:58:58  <harbhub>and call them in this manner
23:58:59  <harbhub>BUT
23:59:08  <harbhub>i want to upload a song to the file base
23:59:16  <harbhub>then have it appear on the main page
23:59:35  <harbhub>so i want a list of all the songs to show up
23:59:48  <harbhub>from a given location, that updates when new audio is uploaded