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00:07:23  <harbhub>hey fellas
00:15:54  <jesusabdullah>hey
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00:42:39  <st_luke>yo jesusabdullah AvianFlu, do cnames work instead of setting up a bunch of A records for the nodejitsu load balancers?
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00:45:30  <jesusabdullah>st_luke: actually maybe, do you mind testing?
00:45:37  <jesusabdullah>st_luke: if cnames work we can change our docs
00:45:52  <st_luke>yeah sure
00:45:55  <jesusabdullah>word
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00:47:30  <evilcelery>hi, i'm getting errors trying to deploy an app (error running command deploy, socket hang up)
00:47:50  <jesusabdullah>evilcelery: can you please paste the output of jitsu into a http://gist.github.com ?
00:48:16  <st_luke>jesusabdullah: looks like it works
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00:50:04  <jesusabdullah>sweeeet
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01:27:25  <coderarity>i made hamburgers
01:27:27  <coderarity>yay
01:29:11  <harbhub>hey code
01:29:14  <coderarity>hi
01:29:22  <harbhub>coderarity: lets work on the game?
01:29:28  <coderarity>alright
01:29:31  <coderarity>let's do this
01:29:35  <cronopio>coderarity: you make me feel hungry
01:29:53  <harbhub>mmm burgers
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01:41:56  <harbhub>coderarity: want to work on the game?
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01:46:56  <coderarity>yeah
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01:47:05  <coderarity>i just got on my linux laptop
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01:48:13  <harbhub>sweet
01:48:31  <harbhub>so
01:48:38  <harbhub>lets talk a little bit about the game
01:48:42  <harbhub>then get hacking?
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01:52:33  <jmar777>getting errors on deploy/starts related to bcrypt again
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01:55:00  <sberryman_>AvianFlu: https://500club.golf.teeleader.com/ - sberryman - teeleader-be (waiting.... LB's don't appear to be working)
01:55:24  <coderarity>jmar777: do you have a gist?
01:56:14  <sberryman_>and back
01:56:19  <sberryman_>haha, what in the world :)
01:57:08  <jmar777>coderarity: basically the same error as in this one: https://gist.github.com/85a7c3f02dc82cb47f15
01:57:13  <jmar777>coderarity: jmar777/devsmash
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01:58:15  <jmar777>coderarity: by basically, i mean exactly (might as well remove the ambiguity :)
01:58:41  <AvianFlu>sberryman_: is this happening when you deploy?
01:58:42  <AvianFlu>or randomly
01:58:53  <sberryman_>random
01:59:26  <AvianFlu>okay, this might not be the balancers if that's the case
01:59:28  <AvianFlu>give me a minute
01:59:35  <AvianFlu>the balancer bug was only on new deploys
02:00:19  <coderarity>jmar777: alright i'll look at it and see if i can do anything
02:00:30  <jmar777>coderarity: thanks
02:00:53  <sberryman_>AvianFlu: the LB's return the correct ssl cert so we at least know that part is working :)
02:01:01  <sberryman_>then it just sits there waiting for data
02:01:02  <jmar777>coderarity: i'll lay off the frantic `jitsu apps start`'s for a minute
02:01:29  <coderarity>yeah, that'd help :P
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02:05:12  <AvianFlu>sberryman_: so it just hangs? can you curl -v and see how far it gets?
02:05:45  <sberryman_>i mean it is back now but i can show you the results for when i told you it was down
02:06:19  <sberryman_>AvianFlu: https://gist.github.com/3688421
02:06:51  <AvianFlu>how long did you let it hang for
02:07:25  <coderarity>jmar777: are you using bcrypt as a bundleDependency? that may help
02:07:29  <sberryman_>30 ish seconds
02:07:40  <jmar777>coderarity: just a regular dependency
02:07:43  <sberryman_>i've counted out 70+ seconds before then i got bored
02:08:11  <jmar777>coderarity: do compiled dependencies do well when they're bundled?
02:08:16  <coderarity>jmar777: maybe add "bundleDependencies": ["bcrypt"] to your package.json and deploy again?
02:08:30  <coderarity>jmar777: well, the problem is it's using too much memory to build it
02:09:33  <jmar777>coderarity: if i purchase a baseline plan once that's available, should that resolve these kind of issues?
02:09:41  <jmar777>*kinds
02:13:20  <jmar777>coderarity: tried the bundleDependency, same problem
02:13:34  <coderarity>okay
02:13:44  <jmar777>er... bundleDependencies that is
02:14:19  <coderarity>jmar777: all the drones have the same amount of memory
02:14:40  <jmar777>coderarity: so better plans = more drones, not bigger drones?
02:14:42  <coderarity>jmar777: even a better plan gives you more drones, not more memory r drone
02:14:43  <coderarity>yeah
02:15:04  <coderarity>jmar777: we're working on a build server that will resolve these memory issues with npm
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02:15:54  <jmar777>coderarity: k. so what's my best plan of action right now. i was having this issue last week when i launched, but eventually it "just worked". do i just keep trying?
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02:16:14  <coderarity>jmar777: it may work with a few tries
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02:18:07  <jmar777>coderarity: just did lol
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02:21:16  <harbhub>jmar777: how would you make a simple version of this: a counter for tracking how many points someone puts into health
02:21:25  <harbhub>and one for points in armor, damage, speed, etc
02:21:32  <harbhub>for game logic
02:22:39  <harbhub>hey guys
02:22:42  <harbhub>marqueelephoto.com
02:22:57  <harbhub>anyone know why in full screen mode i cannot click on the 'Contact' link?
02:23:29  <harbhub>it works fine in a smaller window
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02:27:36  <jmar777>harbhub: are you talking browser side or server?
02:28:35  <coderarity>jmar777: in the future you can bundle other dependencies to make npm use less memory
02:29:09  <jmar777>coderarity: k, i'll try and shove some more stuff in there
02:29:16  <jmar777>coderarity: thanks for the help
02:29:22  <coderarity>np
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02:31:03  <harbhub>jmar777: browser side
02:31:14  <harbhub>i.e. in my browser i can change the values
02:31:21  <harbhub>then it updates automatically on the server side
02:31:27  <harbhub>to represent what i set as the values
02:31:27  <harbhub>so
02:31:37  <harbhub>lets say i get 20 points to allocate as i please
02:31:51  <harbhub>and the categories are health, armor, damage, speed, and range
02:32:27  <harbhub>i want the user to choose (in the browser) how many points to put in each category
02:32:29  <harbhub>then
02:32:38  <jmar777>harbhub: well, seems like it's just basic decrement/increment behavior
02:32:43  <harbhub>i want the game to represent those values
02:32:48  <harbhub>yes it is
02:32:49  <harbhub>but
02:33:02  <harbhub>how do you make the server know the value?
02:33:22  <harbhub>and have the value that the user sets as the value of the variable (let's say the health variable)
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02:34:42  <jmar777>harbhub: i would have some sort of a confirmation step after the points are assigned, and then post them all at once. kind of hard to say what to do with the browser-side state though. 100 different ways to go
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02:39:00  <harbhub>well
02:39:03  <harbhub>which way would work for
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02:39:08  <harbhub>automatically updating
02:39:14  <harbhub>where the user does not need to press submit
02:39:19  <jmar777>coderarity: feature request: when jitsu is rewriting the package.json, can it sort (or at least preserve) the key ordering? makes my package.json history look weird :)
02:39:32  <harbhub>so basically, as you assign/takeaway points
02:39:40  <coderarity>i thought it already did
02:39:40  <harbhub>it automatically adjusts o.0
02:40:04  <coderarity>jmar777: you should make an issue on https://www.github.com/nodejitsu/jitsu
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02:44:49  <jmar777>coderarity: will do. i've got literally all my modules in bundleDependencies and it's still having issues, btw
02:45:32  <harbhub>jfiddle is nice
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03:01:50  <katjang>hey harbhub.. how's it going?
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03:03:27  <mdedetrich>lets dance
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03:04:15  <DeathRayDragonL1>Having some trouble figuring out how to push a staging site w/ jitsu
03:04:19  <mdedetrich>oooh
03:04:40  <DeathRayDragonL1>is it possible to specifiy a second subdomain, with a second script?
03:04:55  <mdedetrich>actullay thats not a bad point
03:05:02  <DeathRayDragonL1>Or do I have to package it locally with a second folder and a second package.json script?
03:05:11  <mdedetrich>is there any plan to do deploy's via something like git?
03:05:21  <coderarity>yeah
03:05:28  <st_luke>npm++
03:05:30  <coderarity>DeathRayDragonL1: no
03:05:42  <coderarity>DeathRayDragonL1: need two different apps for two different scrits
03:05:48  <coderarity>scripts*
03:05:52  <DeathRayDragonL1>okay gotcha
03:06:14  <DeathRayDragonL1>what a pity. :(
03:06:32  <DeathRayDragonL1>It'd be nice to be able to run a staging or testing site, and a live site
03:06:37  <mdedetrich>coderarity: is there going to be a git based system for deploying?
03:06:41  <DeathRayDragonL1>and just have different settings
03:06:43  <coderarity>mdedetrich: yeah
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03:07:07  <coderarity>DeathRayDragonL1: yeah, a lot of people have requested that
03:07:12  <DeathRayDragonL1>I C
03:07:23  <DeathRayDragonL1>any plans along those lines?
03:07:38  <coderarity>DeathRayDragonL1: i think we're looking into it
03:07:53  <DeathRayDragonL1>I suppose I could somehow keep different package files in the same folder...
03:07:59  <DeathRayDragonL1>and just change out the names when I need to?
03:08:17  <DeathRayDragonL1>cause I don't want to copy out the folder more than once
03:08:27  <mdedetrich>DeathRayDragonL1: you can just make 2 branches
03:08:30  <mdedetrich>DeathRayDragonL1: in git
03:08:40  <mdedetrich>DeathRayDragonL1: which have differing package.jsons
03:08:41  <DeathRayDragonL1>that's true...
03:08:43  <DeathRayDragonL1>right
03:08:49  <DeathRayDragonL1>smart idea, actually.
03:09:00  <DeathRayDragonL1>and just git checkout the branches
03:09:01  <DeathRayDragonL1>smart
03:09:11  <mdedetrich>does anyone have any idea
03:09:17  <mdedetrich>how much it costs to get a single key replaced
03:09:21  <mdedetrich>in a mac genius bar
03:09:34  <coderarity>mdedetrich: you can replace the key yourself for like 3$ on ebay
03:10:00  <mdedetrich>yeah true
03:10:36  <DeathRayDragonL1>hey mdedetrich, thanks for solving my prob
03:10:40  <DeathRayDragonL1>that was a great solution
03:10:59  <mdedetrich>DeathRayDragonL1: thats fine
03:11:19  <DeathRayDragonL1>coderarity mdedetrich just to be sure, that would work, yes? just swapping out the branch?
03:11:40  <mdedetrich>DeathRayDragonL1: yeah it will work
03:11:44  <DeathRayDragonL1>in other words, it's really just the package file that's of concern
03:11:47  <mdedetrich>just make sure that your package.json is tracked
03:11:47  <DeathRayDragonL1>okay cool
03:11:51  <DeathRayDragonL1>right
03:11:59  <mdedetrich>and do git checkout deploy
03:12:02  <mdedetrich>git checkout staging
03:12:03  <mdedetrich>etc etc
03:12:08  <mdedetrich>and jitsu deploy
03:12:13  <DeathRayDragonL1>right
03:12:27  <mdedetrich>tbd, putting the deploy into the .package isn't semantically correct
03:12:31  <mdedetrich>f*tbh
03:12:34  <coderarity>DeathRayDragonL1: yeah, but you've got to change the name/subdomain in each branch's package.json
03:12:35  <mdedetrich>for web applications
03:12:45  <DeathRayDragonL1>coderarity right
03:13:05  <DeathRayDragonL1>git checkout deploy as the live branch is what you mean, yes?
03:13:12  <DeathRayDragonL1>vs git checkout staging
03:13:17  <mdedetrich>honestly the thing that made heroku so popular was git deploy
03:13:27  <DeathRayDragonL1>ah…I see
03:13:54  <mdedetrich>just a pity that heroku doesn't support websockets
03:14:00  <DeathRayDragonL1>btw, I'm using websockets
03:14:10  <mdedetrich>DeathRayDragonL1: thats fine
03:14:15  <DeathRayDragonL1>psyched about nodejitsu's support of that
03:14:18  <mdedetrich>DeathRayDragonL1: I'm also using web sockets, works without problems
03:14:28  <DeathRayDragonL1>Using SocketStream
03:14:39  <DeathRayDragonL1>RPG
03:14:43  <mdedetrich>DeathRayDragonL1: same
03:14:47  <mdedetrich>also using SocketStream
03:14:52  <DeathRayDragonL1>Oh really?
03:14:55  <mdedetrich>yup
03:15:00  <DeathRayDragonL1>Do you ever hang out in the IRC?
03:15:08  <mdedetrich>well I'm on there now
03:15:15  <mdedetrich>not much really happens there though
03:15:36  <DeathRayDragonL1>I'm in there pretty frequently
03:15:43  <DeathRayDragonL1>I'll try and remember now to look for you.
03:15:52  <DeathRayDragonL1>Since it sounds like we're working on similar things.
03:16:40  <mdedetrich>DeathRayDragonL1: also make sure you use stylus and jade
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03:16:44  <mdedetrich>for your templating
03:16:48  <DeathRayDragonL1>ha
03:16:49  <mdedetrich>they are far superior to anything else
03:16:55  <DeathRayDragonL1>I'm not a fan of Jade.
03:17:01  <mdedetrich>what do you use?
03:17:07  <DeathRayDragonL1>Handlebars
03:17:38  <mdedetrich>looking at it now
03:17:47  <DeathRayDragonL1>I've had this discussion w/ people in the Node forums.
03:17:54  <DeathRayDragonL1>It basically boils down to preference.
03:18:09  <mdedetrich>bleh
03:18:10  <coderarity>indeed it does
03:18:11  <mdedetrich>its not dry
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03:18:41  <DeathRayDragonL1>It can be.
03:18:48  <DeathRayDragonL1>As dry as you need it to be.
03:18:58  <DeathRayDragonL1>I like it because it lets HTML be HTML.
03:19:00  <mdedetrich>well it uses raw html tags
03:19:06  <mdedetrich>so its not dry
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03:19:10  <DeathRayDragonL1>It doesn't try to reinvent code that already is code.
03:19:30  <mdedetrich>yeah but you still have to deal with stuff like <div class="rawr">
03:19:34  <DeathRayDragonL1>Hmm…maybe you and I have a different understanding of what DRY means.
03:19:52  <mdedetrich>well an equivalent jade template is like half the code
03:20:00  <DeathRayDragonL1>I like dealing with stuff like that. Again, it's just preferential ultimately.
03:20:15  <mdedetrich>I used to be like that, but then I started working at a company
03:20:31  <mdedetrich>and you have to be as efficient as possible
03:20:45  <DeathRayDragonL1>I work at an agency and have to be efficient.
03:21:01  <DeathRayDragonL1>Sublime text does that.
03:21:04  <DeathRayDragonL1>but i digress
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03:21:15  <DeathRayDragonL1>enough trolling :P
03:21:26  <mdedetrich>I used to use sublime, I use web storm now
03:21:34  <mdedetrich>autocompletion on js is just too much to give up
03:21:39  <DeathRayDragonL1>have't heard of it
03:21:49  <mdedetrich>you heard of intellij?
03:22:23  <DeathRayDragonL1>yeah
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03:22:36  <mdedetrich>its like that but for webdev, web storm is designed for things like node.js
03:22:45  <DeathRayDragonL1>ah interesting
03:22:48  <mdedetrich>it has a really nice environment in terms of starting up node.js servers
03:23:00  <DeathRayDragonL1>hmmm....
03:23:01  <mdedetrich>like setting up environment variables and working with coffeescript
03:23:14  <mdedetrich>it also supports javascript/coffeescript
03:23:17  <mdedetrich>and jade in EAP
03:23:25  <DeathRayDragonL1>cool
03:23:37  <mdedetrich>you might have an issue with highlighting in your tempting languages though
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03:25:42  <mdedetrich>but def have a look at the EAP
03:26:19  <DeathRayDragonL1>"Employee Assistance Program"?
03:26:40  <DeathRayDragonL1>"Early Assessment Practice"?
03:26:42  <DeathRayDragonL1>:P
03:26:49  <mdedetrich>Early Access Preview
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03:33:00  <hiatt>hey, I'm still hitting the 500 error on a deploy pretty regularly, it takes ~3 attempts to deploy an app successfully...
03:33:22  <hiatt>@AvianFlu you helped out the first time I hit this, is it the same issue?
03:34:13  <AvianFlu>potentially, can you gist me what the 500 looks like?
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03:39:49  <hiatt>https://gist.github.com/3688714
03:41:37  <russelh15>I also get an error when trying to deploy, https://gist.github.com/3688723
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03:42:05  <bardu>hi guys
03:42:46  <bardu>unfortunately, a new issues raised for me
03:45:02  <bardu>my app has a CMS for also uploading images to my iriscouch couch, has always worked (and still work on my local machine)
03:46:15  <bardu>however, an error is thrown now on nodejitsu, see the log https://gist.github.com/3688719
03:46:48  <AvianFlu>bardu: where is the uploads dir coming from
03:47:00  <AvianFlu>if it's an empty dir in your app when you deploy, `npm pack` skips it
03:47:05  <AvianFlu>might be the cause
03:47:32  <AvianFlu>russelh15: yours is a windows bug in jitsu we haven't worked out yet
03:47:53  <AvianFlu>hiatt: it's probably the same as last time, gist me your package.json?
03:48:03  <bardu>hmm ... just emptied to save on size
03:48:20  <bardu>will put something in and deploy again
03:49:10  <russelh15>AvianFlu: Is there any way I can do a deploy tonight?
03:50:18  <AvianFlu>russelh15: possibly, when did you install this jitsu?
03:50:22  <AvianFlu>is it a clean install or an update?
03:50:41  <russelh15>about a month ago. i just updated though
03:51:12  <AvianFlu>okay, there's a chance it's an old version of a dep that didn't get updated
03:51:18  <AvianFlu>try uninstalling and reinstalling jitsu
03:51:46  <AvianFlu>there also might be a chance we could roll you back to a working version, but there are only a few versions you can go back before there would be api breakage
03:52:13  <russelh15>AvianFlu: Ok. I'll trying uninstalling and reinstalling
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03:52:59  <AvianFlu>russelh15: we haven't had much time to look into this bug yet, but it's likely to be something simple
03:53:15  <AvianFlu>if neither of those things help, see if you can investigate where the stack trace comes from in jitsu
03:54:01  <bardu>AvianFlu: you saved my day, didn't know that 'npm pack' skips empty dirs, will keep that in mind
03:54:01  <AvianFlu>actually, this is a readline crash, so if neither of those things help I'll look into it
03:54:21  <AvianFlu>bardu: yeah, it's a common pitfall
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03:54:31  <AvianFlu>putting like, !uploads/
03:54:34  <AvianFlu>into your .npmignore
03:54:37  <AvianFlu>might also help
03:55:40  <bardu>AvianFlu: okay, thanks again
03:56:08  <DeathRayDragonL1>n00b question — if it hangs forever on "info: Starting app CivicSeed"
03:56:15  <DeathRayDragonL1>that's not good, right? :D
03:56:42  <russelh15>AvianFlu: Yeh that didn't do the trick. I'll try again in the morning. I'm about to hit the sack. Thanks for your help though. Good night.
03:56:55  <hiatt>@AvianFlu https://gist.github.com/3688789 re: package.json per your request
03:56:56  <mdedetrich>DeathRayDragonL1: well, that depends, do your sockets actually work
03:57:00  <DeathRayDragonL1>I think it's based on some environmental bugs like pointing to the wrong db… ?
03:57:10  <DeathRayDragonL1>great question
03:57:17  <DeathRayDragonL1>ope
03:57:21  <DeathRayDragonL1>it just spat out an error
03:57:28  <DeathRayDragonL1>the sockets work locally, btw
03:57:42  <DeathRayDragonL1>but yeah, it's saying "socket hang up"
03:57:48  <DeathRayDragonL1>so maybe that's a prob...
03:58:00  <AvianFlu>hiatt: do you have a lot of static assets?
03:58:18  <AvianFlu>DeathRayDragonL1: it might be a client-side timeout
03:58:50  <DeathRayDragonL1>AvianFlu — no
03:59:57  <DeathRayDragonL1>well… I actually need to go to bed...
03:59:59  <katjang>russelh15 AvianFlu: that happened to me while using node 0.6.x, once I used 0.8.x it works fine. this is on my mac btw
04:00:04  <DeathRayDragonL1>I'll hit y'all up tomorrow. :)
04:00:24  <DeathRayDragonL1>thx for all the love :P
04:01:01  <AvianFlu>katjang: good to know
04:01:31  <hiatt>@AvianFlu yes and no -- relatively few total assets, but the html file is pretty huge. same for the stylesheet. outside of best practices, do you guys have a size limit?
04:01:56  <AvianFlu>well what's the size of the dir?
04:02:23  <AvianFlu>we don't really have a size limit, but things bigger than 50MB can take a long time to upload and stuff like that
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04:04:10  <hiatt>oh gotcha... also had some downloadable files in public so yeah the dir is 3.1MB...not too bad?
04:04:32  <AvianFlu>no, that shouldn't be a problem
04:04:42  <AvianFlu>just try it again a couple of times, I'll watch as it goes
04:05:01  <hiatt>k, i'll try now.
04:05:49  <hiatt>working :). no help there
04:06:12  <AvianFlu>we're rolling out a new build system for modules, it will make all these random failures go away
04:06:17  <AvianFlu>it'll be deployed sometime this week
04:06:27  <AvianFlu>hopefully early in the week
04:06:33  <hiatt>cool, gotta run thanks for the help
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04:10:47  <harbhub>hey katjang
04:10:56  <harbhub>i was just watching game of thrones :)
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04:11:05  <katjang>cool :)
04:11:51  <harbhub>i need a better understanding of database with mongodb, redis, and node
04:11:55  <harbhub>when to use what
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04:36:48  <Sly>Sup with everyone tonight?
04:40:49  <harbhub>hey Sly
04:40:59  <harbhub>just tryin to make a game over here lol
04:41:08  <harbhub>also tryin to make a simple chat app with socketio
04:41:56  <Sly>Nice.
04:42:03  <Sly>I'm trying to get Arch set back up.
04:42:09  <harbhub>Arch?
04:42:13  <Sly>I went retarded earlier and set something in rc.conf that shouldn't have been set.
04:42:16  <Sly>And it bootlooped.
04:42:17  <Sly>-_-;
04:42:30  <Sly>Yeah, Arch. Linux.
04:42:42  <harbhub>hmm
04:42:57  <harbhub>not sure that i can be of much help with that
04:43:28  <Sly>It's alright. That's what #archlinux is for.
04:43:33  <Sly>yawnt was helping a bit last night, too.
04:45:04  <Sly>It wouldn't have been so bad, but I forgot to make a snapshot of it before I shut it down for a reboot. -_-;;
04:45:13  <Sly>So had to reinstall to get around the bootloop, since wouldn't let me into TTY.
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04:48:57  <Sly>lol
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05:26:10  <harbhub>guys
05:26:22  <harbhub>let us all work together on a massive multiplayer online game
05:26:30  <harbhub>we will become rich and get to make awesome code
05:26:42  <harbhub>who is with me?
05:29:10  <st_luke>AvianFlu
05:30:04  <AvianFlu>sup
05:32:44  <st_luke>would you be able to remove the a record for the empirejs domain and just set a cname to empirejs.nodejitsu.com? [0] said the domain is on an account with a lot of other important domains
05:33:07  <st_luke>else I would probably have the login
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05:34:19  <AvianFlu>yeah, I'll take care of it
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05:52:02  <st_luke>AvianFlu: thank you, scholar!
05:52:05  <harbhub>what is the way to change an app that uses express.createServer() to the new format?
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06:08:19  <harbhub>hey coderarity, we need to introduce mfps into our game since it is multiplayer
06:08:32  <harbhub>i.e. different computers will have different frame rates o.0
06:10:51  <Sly>Where's this game at?
06:11:05  <coderarity>harbhub: wait, what?
06:11:27  <Sly>coderarity, he's basically saying don't make everyone lag because of one person not being capable of handling higher FPS than another person.
06:11:31  <harbhub>i'm reading about mutliplayer html5 node socketio games
06:11:33  <Sly>Rather than limiting people to a set framerate.
06:11:35  <coderarity>oh, right
06:11:46  <coderarity>but it's only two people
06:11:55  <coderarity>we can't overthink it :P
06:11:59  <Sly>Where's it at? I'll play. ;D
06:12:01  <harbhub>hehe
06:12:13  <coderarity>Sly: not playable yet :P
06:12:16  <harbhub>i want to make a career by making one awesome massive multiplayer online game mwuahaha
06:12:21  <Sly>Don't care. I'll still play. :x
06:12:23  <harbhub>Sly: you can help us make it
06:12:27  <harbhub>hehe
06:12:36  <coderarity>it's gonna use webrtc stuff for connections, not websockets
06:12:44  <coderarity>we don't got enough bits for websockets
06:12:51  <coderarity>peerconnection stuff is what we need
06:14:06  <harbhub>oh how i long for more bits
06:14:29  <Sly>coderarity, the only thing with letting people connect peer-wise is exposing someone's IP to a possible attacker.
06:14:52  <Sly>Say if someone gets mad at someone in game and has a little skid DDoS tool. A little sniffing, and they could probably (eventually) hit that person.
06:16:49  <harbhub>Sly: did you ever play Shattered Galaxy?
06:16:58  <Sly>Nope.
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06:24:48  <coderarity>Sly: it's just a competition game, not some huge commercial thing :P
06:25:05  <Sly>That makes it even worse. lol.
06:25:17  <coderarity>Sly: no, a game entered into a competition
06:25:24  <Sly>Oh.
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06:35:09  <harbhub>i will be making a commercial game over time, however :)
06:35:28  <harbhub>multiplayer, online, strategy, rpg, and epic are the goals
06:35:39  <harbhub>hey guys
06:35:46  <harbhub>why do people use prototype?
06:35:54  <harbhub>i see stuff like .prototype
06:38:39  <kmiyashiro>umm
06:38:47  <kmiyashiro>because that's how javascript works
06:40:24  <harbhub>but
06:40:26  <harbhub>what is the purpose?
06:40:32  <harbhub>why is .prototype used?
06:40:46  <harbhub>what does it do?
06:40:50  <coderarity>because it makes code a lot easier
06:40:52  <coderarity>a ton of thigns
06:42:26  <Sly>I think of .prototype as turning a function into a class that can be constructed and those properties assigned, just like any other languages.
06:43:00  <coderarity>http://beej.us/blog/data/javascript-prototypes-inheritance/ seems pretty okay
06:45:11  <coderarity>ask not what prototypes can do for you, but what you can do for prototypes
06:46:23  <harbhub>If a property cannot be found in an object, it is searched for in that object's prototype.
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06:47:48  <harbhub>so
06:47:54  <harbhub>a prototype is like a default class
06:48:11  <harbhub>that can have it's default values overrided
06:48:19  <harbhub>by a new instance of it
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06:50:16  <harbhub>prototype is cool
06:50:24  <harbhub>i wonder what i can do for prototype :)
06:52:12  <coderarity>prototypes can have prototypes
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06:55:16  <harbhub>mind blown
06:55:23  <jesusabdullah>this ain't no smalltalk
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07:01:30  <coderarity>omg my little pony grub themes
07:01:33  <coderarity>this is the greatest day of my life
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07:03:43  <lpin>hello everyone
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07:15:14  <harbhub>later all
07:15:17  <harbhub>gonna sleep
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08:54:21  <Sly>Gah. I hate the Dragon commercials.
08:54:24  <Sly>They drag on.. forever..
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08:56:42  <Sly>rofl. Sorry.
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09:06:45  <Sly>yawnt, <3
09:08:57  <jetienne>hi
09:09:17  <yawnt>heya Sly jetienne
09:09:24  <yawnt>how's your arch Sly ?
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09:24:31  <dragon>meanie
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09:53:21  <chakrit>guys, any eta for the paid plans? just curious :)
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10:17:04  <mmalecki>chakrit: very soon
10:19:51  <mmalecki>yawnt: I made bacon!
10:20:02  <yawnt>mmalecki: congrats :D
10:20:10  <yawnt>i made bacon too yesterday
10:20:11  <yawnt>well kinda
10:20:22  <yawnt>i had gnocchi with melted cheese and bacon with onions :)
10:20:32  <yawnt>tasted delicious
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10:21:18  <mmalecki>sounds tasty!
10:21:32  <yawnt>yeah, it's also fast
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10:21:35  <yawnt>took like 5 mins
10:21:46  <yawnt>onions make everything taste better
10:22:01  <mmalecki>yeah. did you put some salt on them or not?
10:22:09  <yawnt>no it was for the sauce
10:22:14  <mmalecki>ah :)
10:22:34  <yawnt>chop onions, olive oil.. wait til they're golden
10:22:35  <yawnt>add bacon
10:22:44  <yawnt>add gnocchi
10:22:51  <yawnt>and cheese that melts with the heat
10:22:51  <yawnt>done.
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10:24:28  <mmalecki>dang, I'm out of cheese
10:25:11  <yawnt>you need cheese that melts easily
10:25:25  <yawnt>http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090610191157/nonciclopedia/images/e/e6/Sottilette_Kraft.jpg
10:25:28  <yawnt>i use this
10:25:38  <yawnt>cheap and tastes kinda sweet..
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10:34:40  <booyaa>gnocchi!
10:34:40  <booyaa>noms
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10:36:31  <ag4ve>where do the res / req prototypes come from that the director router uses?
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10:37:47  <ag4ve>i guess what i want to know is where post data is stored?
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11:15:45  <yawnt>lol
11:16:04  <yawnt>apparently one 16 yo girls called for obama's assassination
11:16:12  <yawnt>and secret services arrived at her house
11:16:16  <yawnt>http://wzakcleveland.com/3482122/the-choice-when-16-year-old-alyssa-douglas-calls-for-the-presidents-assassination-on-twitter/
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11:16:42  <booyaa>yeah secret service have been doing that for ages
11:16:47  <booyaa>even as far back as bbs
11:18:56  <ktk>she got her 15 minutes of fame now
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12:01:24  <ag4ve>yawnt: i can't say that i blame them ... if you get stupid at any age, you should get thumped
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12:28:36  <spey>hi guys! i have deployed an Express 3.x application to Nodejitsu with MongoDB session store (connect-mongodb) but it seems not working. I've got an internal server error on my session test page (http://lunchbunny.nodejitsu.com/session-test) this session test page basically just the session example from Express' GitHub examples.
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12:40:25  <mmalecki>spey: do logs indicate anything?
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12:49:09  <spey>mmalecki: the logs indicating that there is no req.session
12:50:18  <spey>mmalecki: when try to access 'req.session.views' got a type error: cannot read property 'views' of undefined
12:51:00  <spey>mmalecki: working fine locally with the same mongohq database
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14:54:49  <tiloso>hi everyone! i'm getting an error trying to deploy my app: https://gist.github.com/3691298
14:55:08  <tiloso>Do you have any ideas how to solve the problem?
14:55:28  <AvianFlu>tiloso: don't use the hiredis parser, first of all
14:55:32  <AvianFlu>it doesn't like smartOS
14:55:37  <AvianFlu>but also, just try it again
14:56:27  <tiloso>I already tried it ~20 times. How can I avoid using the hiredis parser?
14:58:22  <jmar777>tiloso: i was having a similar issue with bcrypt. i ended up listing all of my modules in "bundleDependencies", and I now have ~25% success rate by just doing `jitsu apps start` after an initial failed deploy
14:59:38  <AvianFlu>jmar777: tiloso: anything where you see 'exit code 7' is actually SIGEMT
14:59:48  <AvianFlu>which is an 'Emulation Trap' from the solaris zone running out of RAM
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15:00:00  <AvianFlu>node-gyp, when compiling, can take up to 180-200MB of ram sometimes
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15:00:10  <AvianFlu>on a 256MB server with an OS running in it, that doesn't really work out so well
15:00:18  <AvianFlu>we're rolling out a build server in the next few days
15:00:24  <AvianFlu>so that this entire problem will go away
15:00:40  <AvianFlu>but in the meantime, bundle your dependencies, and try only installing the compiled ones on the servers
15:00:46  <AvianFlu>tiloso: bundle your redis dep and remove it
15:01:22  <tiloso>I'll try it. Thanks for your help!
15:02:19  <AvianFlu>tiloso: there's actually also a config somewhere
15:02:26  <AvianFlu>where you can just tell it to not use the hiredis parser
15:02:31  <AvianFlu>but I don't know where offhand
15:02:40  <AvianFlu>a config in node_redis
15:05:16  <jmar777>AvianFlu: good to know - it had been mentioned a few times that it was memory related, but i didn't know how to interpret that from the jitsu dump
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15:06:05  <jmar777>completely unrelated, but just posted my first "real" blog post on devsmash, which I launched on nodejitsu last week: http://devsmash.com/blog/password-authentication-with-mongoose-and-bcrypt
15:07:13  <jmar777>and yes, i have no shame when it comes to self promotion... :p
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15:10:41  <spey>any suggestions on my problem? I have deployed an Express 3.x application to Nodejitsu with MongoDB session store (connect-mongodb) but it seems not working. I've got an internal server error on my session test page (http://lunchbunny.nodejitsu.com/session-test) this session test page basically just the session example from Express' GitHub examples. The logs indicating that there is no req.session when try to access 'req.session.vi
15:11:29  <spey>..property 'views' of undefined (working fine locally with the same mongohq database)
15:12:19  <AvianFlu>if you see the text 'internal server error' in the browser, it's express' default error handling
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15:12:34  <AvianFlu>and it's probably just some minor misconfiguration
15:12:48  <AvianFlu>jmar777: it's one problem with about 15 symptoms
15:12:53  <AvianFlu>'exit code 7' is one of the common ones
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15:15:30  <yawnt>AvianFlu: you install hiredis
15:15:31  <yawnt>install redis
15:15:33  <yawnt>uninstall hiredis
15:15:38  <yawnt>and add redis to bundledDependencies
15:15:39  <yawnt>it works
15:15:47  <spey>so basically i can see the error message if add app.use(express.errorHandler()); into my 'production' configuration?
15:15:59  <spey>i will try..
15:16:08  <AvianFlu>spey: I believe so
15:16:12  <AvianFlu>but I'm not an express expert
15:16:24  * AvianFludoes systems stuff and an ironically tiny amount of web development
15:16:51  <spey>ok, thanks anyway
15:17:00  <yawnt>spey: cookieParser and bodyParser enabled?
15:17:08  <spey>yes
15:17:48  <spey>https://gist.github.com/3691441
15:20:08  <yawnt> line 32 spey
15:20:11  <yawnt>it's new store
15:20:12  <yawnt>not store
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15:22:12  <spey>ok i will try to change to new store
15:22:20  <yawnt>also
15:22:21  <yawnt>line 3
15:22:23  <spey>but strange why it's working locally?
15:22:34  <yawnt>require('connect-mongodb')(connect)
15:22:41  <yawnt>*require('connect-mongodb')(express)
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15:23:04  <yawnt>no wait
15:23:06  <yawnt>nevermind
15:23:11  <yawnt>just line 32 i think
15:24:12  <spey>ok
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15:34:19  <zzarcon>Hi guys
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15:35:03  <yawnt>mmalecki: ping
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15:40:50  <zzarcon>What are the nameservers nodejitsu?
15:42:02  <AvianFlu>run `host nodejitsu.com`
15:42:14  <AvianFlu>unless you mean the actual nameservers, you can use dig to find those
15:43:46  <yawnt>or AvianFlu too.. custom SSL certs for mah domain?
15:44:40  <zzarcon>where I run 'host nodejitsu.com' ?
15:45:04  <AvianFlu>zzarcon: at a unix terminal
15:45:09  <AvianFlu>if you're on windows, I have no idea
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15:45:22  <AvianFlu>yawnt: we can add them, just email the cert info to us
15:45:30  <AvianFlu>we need the key, the cert, and the ca
15:45:49  <zzarcon>AvianFlu: I'm in Windows... :(
15:46:02  <AvianFlu>zzarcon: so what info do you need
15:46:03  <zzarcon>but thanks for the info!
15:46:09  <AvianFlu>are you trying to set up A records for a custom domain?
15:46:19  <zzarcon>yes
15:46:23  <AvianFlu>dns.jit.su
15:46:27  <AvianFlu>should have a list
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15:46:49  <yawnt>AvianFlu: i have
15:46:49  <yawnt>[yawn@xolotl SSL]$ ls
15:46:50  <yawnt>certrequest.csr urlship-cert.pem urlship-key.pem
15:46:55  <yawnt>do i have to email all that?
15:47:02  <zzarcon>AvianFlu: that list is valid?
15:47:29  <AvianFlu>zzarcon: yes
15:47:31  <AvianFlu>yawnt: yes
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15:49:43  <yawnt>AvianFlu: it's custom made though.. i haven't bought that
15:50:02  <AvianFlu>yawnt: self-signed certs will throw errors in a lot of modern browsers
15:50:06  <yawnt>:(
15:50:07  <yawnt>okay
15:50:09  <yawnt>i'll buy one
15:50:11  <yawnt>suggestions?
15:50:11  <AvianFlu>if you're cool with that, we can still add it
15:50:17  <AvianFlu>they're pretty expensive
15:50:20  <AvianFlu>but go do some googling
15:50:24  <AvianFlu>shop around, as it were
15:50:49  <AvianFlu>we use wildcard certs, which are different and more expensive
15:50:53  <AvianFlu>so I'm not sure what would be best for you
15:51:12  <yawnt>no wildcard
15:51:16  <yawnt>just domain.com
15:51:28  <yawnt>the rest is hosted somewhere else.. eg tumblr
15:54:18  <yawnt>AvianFlu: uh wildcard from 85 / year
15:54:38  <yawnt>esssential (one domain) 21 / year
15:55:20  <AvianFlu>there you go
15:55:23  <AvianFlu>that sounds pretty cheap
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15:55:48  <yawnt>comodo
15:55:52  <yawnt>99.3 browser compatibility
15:56:19  <AvianFlu>there you go
15:56:42  <yawnt>i'll go with the 21 $ one
15:56:48  <yawnt>85 is too expensive
15:56:53  <yawnt>and i don't need wildcards
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16:05:41  <David__>anybody running into a KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS crash when compiling npm modules in os x mountain lion?
16:05:53  <David__>still using 0.6 series
16:05:56  <David__>for node
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16:09:15  <garrettwilkin>just found that winston-loggly tests require the config.json to have an inputName supplied. The error message says that "either inputName or inputToken is required" but its actually trying to test both. If you supply only inputToken it fails. I'm going to test to see that adding inputName to my production config makes the Loggly transport work. If it does, I'll try and submit some documentation pull requests for flatiro
16:09:16  <garrettwilkin>winston-loggly.
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16:21:37  <mmalecki>yawnt: pong
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16:22:38  <yawnt>mmalecki: AvianFlu helped, thanks anyway
16:22:39  <yawnt>:D
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16:31:42  <sberryman>mmalecki: issues trying to retrieve logs using develop.nodejitsu.com "Loggly Error (401): Unauthorized"
16:32:01  <mmalecki>oh dang
16:32:01  <sberryman>also failed using jitsu
16:32:02  <mmalecki>AvianFlu: ^
16:32:16  <sberryman>on a side note, my site is also down
16:32:21  <AvianFlu>???
16:32:30  <AvianFlu>sberryman: randomly, or did you deploy
16:32:36  <sberryman>random
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16:32:43  <sberryman>just got back from starbucks and.... down
16:32:51  <AvianFlu>sberryman: which kind of down
16:33:00  <sberryman>i was checking the logs to see if it was this header error that shows up randomly
16:33:00  <AvianFlu>please give us all the details you can, while we start looking into it
16:33:20  <sberryman>LB connects, sends the correct ssl cert
16:33:35  <sberryman>i set the headers and just sitting there waiting for a response
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16:34:25  <sberryman>currently connecting to 165.225.131.4 (started a timer to see how long it sits there waiting)
16:35:09  <sberryman>at 60 sec so far
16:35:29  <mmalecki>it'll be 120 seconds most likely
16:35:47  <sberryman>just under 90 seconds and got a response
16:36:03  <sberryman>then next request it worked just perfectly
16:36:05  <mmalecki>oh?
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16:36:45  <mmalecki>well, our balancers never experience this kind of lags
16:36:48  <sberryman>https://gist.github.com/3691985
16:37:13  <sberryman>mmalecki: might be that setHeader error i saw yesterday
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16:38:09  <sberryman>by the way i'm getting the not authorized error retrieving logs for all my apps
16:38:31  <mmalecki>yup, we're working on resolving
16:39:31  <AvianFlu>sberryman: the logs should be fixed shortly
16:39:43  <sberryman>thanks
16:39:48  * mmaleckitopic: Nodejitsu - Host applications. Keep them up. | Cloud Status: logs are temporarily inaccessible, we're working on resolving the issue.
16:40:01  <mmalecki>WELL
16:40:06  <mmalecki>FIXED ALREADY, I HEAR
16:40:08  <AvianFlu>sberryman: you're the only person seeing these ssl issues, and I'm not yet sure what would be causing them
16:40:09  <sberryman>ha
16:40:13  * mmaleckitopic: Nodejitsu - Host applications. Keep them up. | Cloud Status: all is well!
16:40:27  <sberryman>confirmed, logs are loading just fine
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16:41:21  <sberryman>mmalecki: https://gist.github.com/3692014
16:41:28  <sberryman>it has to be that stupid setHeader error
16:42:14  <mmalecki>that's possible, I don't know express that well
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16:42:44  <sberryman>i'm using res.redirect
16:42:52  <sberryman>i'm going to drop down to using http
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16:45:02  <sberryman>next(false) stops the handler chain right?
16:45:38  <nathan7>Or not calling next() q=
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16:59:17  <traleigh>Does anyone know how to get bcrypt/node-gyp working on nodejitsu?
16:59:23  <traleigh>I keep getting:
16:59:25  <traleigh>error: npm ERR! bcrypt@0.7.2 install: `node-gyp rebuild` error: npm ERR! `sh "-c" "node-gyp rebuild"` failed with 7
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16:59:47  <TooTallNate>traleigh: post a full error log
16:59:49  <TooTallNate>in a gist
17:00:16  <traleigh>ok
17:00:29  <mmalecki>7 is that mysterious signal...
17:00:39  * hallasjoined
17:00:40  <AvianFlu>SIGEMT
17:00:48  <AvianFlu>traleigh: post your package.json in a gist, would you?
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17:00:53  <mmalecki>I prefer to call it The Mysterious Signal
17:01:10  <AvianFlu>mmalecki: in my book, `Emulation Trap` counts as mysterious XD
17:01:32  <yawnt>lol
17:01:42  <yawnt>"BUT WHAT'S THAT?"
17:01:59  <yawnt>"that, my friend is ... it all began a long time ago..."
17:02:12  <mmalecki>it actually did
17:02:25  <yawnt>wat?
17:02:27  * benvjoined
17:02:29  <yawnt>really?
17:02:30  <yawnt>lol
17:02:40  <mmalecki>well, SIGEMT was defined long time ago :)
17:02:48  <mmalecki>SINCE IT'S 7
17:02:55  <mmalecki>even SIGKILL is 9 or so
17:03:02  <mmalecki>THAT'S OBVIOUS!!!
17:03:06  <yawnt>...
17:03:35  <yawnt>so funny i forgot to laugh, really
17:03:46  <mmalecki>:(
17:03:55  <yawnt>DON'T WORRY MAN
17:04:02  <AvianFlu>TooTallNate: while you're around, does it seem normal to you that node-gyp often takes 100MB+ of ram while compiling addons that aren't that big?
17:04:03  <yawnt>not everyone can be as funny as kohai
17:04:17  <yawnt>where's kohai ( ;_;)//
17:04:23  <yawnt>i need beers
17:04:27  <AvianFlu>where IS kohai!?
17:04:31  <yawnt>yeah
17:04:32  <AvianFlu>yawnt++
17:04:33  <yawnt>i was saying
17:04:33  <mmalecki>AvianFlu: oh, yeah, exactly
17:04:38  <mmalecki>I forgot to say
17:04:39  <AvianFlu>gimme a minute
17:04:41  <yawnt>where's kohai ( ;_;)// (cit.)
17:04:46  <mmalecki>I wanted to ssh to it
17:04:53  <mmalecki>so I whois'd kohai
17:05:00  * yawntchanged nick to kohai
17:05:00  <mmalecki>and then I realized how stupid I was
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17:05:06  <kohai>:(
17:05:08  <kohai>it's registered
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17:05:40  <AvianFlu>yawnt++
17:05:40  <kohai>yawnt has 15 beers
17:05:44  <AvianFlu>mmalecki: --
17:05:44  <kohai>mmalecki has 116 russian champagnes
17:05:58  <AvianFlu>yawnt: of course the bot's name is registered!
17:06:01  <AvianFlu>what do you take me for!?
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17:06:42  <mmalecki>I no longer like russian champagnes, actually
17:06:51  <mmalecki>!like beer
17:06:51  <kohai>mmalecki likes beer.
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17:11:17  <st_luke>KOHAI
17:11:18  <st_luke>kohai++
17:11:19  <kohai>kohai has 15 beers
17:11:26  <st_luke>kohai is back
17:11:27  <st_luke>npm++
17:11:27  <kohai>npm has 3 beers
17:11:31  <st_luke>npm++
17:11:31  <kohai>npm has 4 beers
17:11:34  <st_luke>give npm all the beers
17:11:43  <st_luke>LONG LIVE NPM
17:12:34  <yawnt>how do i check how many beers i have?
17:12:40  <mmalecki>yawnt: ++
17:12:41  <kohai>yawnt has 16 beers
17:12:43  <mmalecki>like that
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17:13:42  <traleigh>https://gist.github.com/3692214 - full error, with package.json
17:14:05  * yawntthrows a party
17:14:12  <yawnt>yawnt (--) to grab a beer
17:14:19  <yawnt>:D
17:15:05  <AvianFlu>traleigh: first, what are you using forever for?
17:15:56  <yawnt>AvianFlu: yeah well.. i kinda expected it to be registered, but i tried anyway
17:16:09  <yawnt>!like internet
17:16:09  <kohai>yawnt likes internet.
17:16:10  <traleigh>to restart on crashes - it's not really fully stable yet
17:16:13  <yawnt>yay
17:16:15  <yawnt>i have internets
17:18:15  <AvianFlu>traleigh: we're already using forever to keep your app up
17:18:33  <AvianFlu>besides that, though, try bundling most of your non-compiled dependencies
17:18:46  <AvianFlu>anything with bcrypt still needs to be installed regularly, since you're probably not running smartOS locally
17:18:53  <AvianFlu>but the rest, bundle them so they don't need to be installed
17:19:07  <traleigh>ok
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17:21:09  <sberryman>just got a (Error spawning drone: no matching engine found) error when deploying
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17:21:18  <sberryman>sberryman / teeleader-be
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17:22:24  <sberryman>as usual, 2nd try worked
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17:30:41  <sberryman>mmalecki: i was able to get rid of the setHeaders error and I added some more logging to help if it comes up again
17:30:52  <sberryman>so if it crashes again we at least know it wont be that error
17:31:32  <AvianFlu>sberryman: cool
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17:47:27  <yawnt>AvianFlu: jitsu doesn't maintein the package.json layou
17:47:28  <yawnt>:(
17:47:36  <yawnt>*maintain
17:47:44  <yawnt>*layou
17:47:46  <yawnt>*layout
17:47:49  <yawnt>hate you too keyboard >.>
17:48:01  <AvianFlu>yawnt: I'd be very happy to take a patch that changed that
17:48:12  <AvianFlu>I agree that it's silly, but we've had more important things to fix for quite some time
17:48:39  <yawnt>certainly.. i was just saying that in case you didn't know already :P
17:48:49  <AvianFlu>yeah, no, I know :D
17:50:18  <yawnt>AvianFlu: is there a jitsu compiled doc or do i have to read the source?
17:51:35  <AvianFlu>there are docs
17:51:39  <AvianFlu>but read the source, learn some things :)
17:51:46  <mmalecki>there are no docs
17:51:51  <mmalecki>they were removed
17:51:55  <AvianFlu>oh
17:52:02  <mmalecki>thankfully
17:52:18  <yawnt>i suppose it's require-analyzer then
17:52:21  <mmalecki>I hate checking in shit like that
17:53:06  <coderarity>is there an issue?
17:53:25  <coderarity>on https://www.github.com/nodejitsu/jitsu
17:54:01  <AvianFlu>I think there's an old issue about this, yeah
17:55:09  <yawnt>https://github.com/nodejitsu/jitsu/issues/87
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17:57:18  <sberryman>mmalecki: can you try (curl -v https://500club.golf.teeleader.com/) real quick?
17:57:42  <AvianFlu>sberryman: works
17:57:50  <sberryman>thanks, must be something on my side
17:57:53  <sberryman>cant resolve dns :)
17:57:56  <mmalecki>hmm
17:58:01  <mmalecki>I'm getting the same thing...
17:58:03  <yawnt>^
17:58:04  <mmalecki>as sberryman
17:58:08  <yawnt>and i'm using google's
17:58:12  <yawnt>like mmalecki and sberryman
17:58:19  <sberryman>haha, godaddy must be down
17:58:21  <AvianFlu>I don't use google's dns
17:58:33  <mmalecki>we're not using godaddy's DNS
17:58:36  <mmalecki>we use zerigo
17:58:39  <sberryman>i am though
17:58:53  <sberryman>not my day over here :)
17:59:03  <sberryman>can you reach godaddy.com?
17:59:26  <mmalecki>nope, www.godaddy.com doesn't resolve
17:59:31  <sberryman>hahahaha
17:59:33  <sberryman>lovely
17:59:35  <AvianFlu>http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/godaddy.com
18:00:08  <sberryman>guess it is just me + a few others
18:00:25  <AvianFlu>seems like it
18:00:28  <AvianFlu>certain dns providers
18:00:39  <AvianFlu>maybe try to use 'host' and give it a specific dns server
18:00:42  <mmalecki>I got "it's not just you"
18:00:43  <AvianFlu>like 4.2.2.2
18:00:55  <AvianFlu>oh wow
18:00:59  <AvianFlu>now I got 'it's not just you' oto
18:01:00  <AvianFlu>too
18:01:29  <sberryman>so behind the times over there AvianFlu ;)
18:02:40  <sberryman>godaddy dns hosting going down probably takes out a HUGE portion of the internet :)
18:02:45  <yawnt>it's the riot against godaddy
18:02:56  * yawntpulls out the torches
18:03:02  <AvianFlu>I mean, lol
18:03:09  <AvianFlu>I GUESS IT'S GONNA BE ONE OF THOSE MONDAYS
18:03:11  <mmalecki>elephants destroyed their DC, I've heard
18:03:12  <yawnt>lol
18:03:22  <yawnt>mmalecki: democratic party?
18:03:32  <yawnt>sry
18:03:35  <yawnt>republican party
18:03:37  <sberryman>zerigo eh? i was going to use AWS but now i have something else to look at
18:03:38  <yawnt>i always confuse them
18:03:46  <yawnt>like, the logos.. not the parties lol
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18:04:22  <mmalecki>lulz
18:08:47  <yawnt>well fuck you too twitter
18:08:57  <yawnt>"The user email is not retriviable via API"
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18:21:47  <sberryman>quite the monday eh?
18:22:38  <mmalecki>sberryman: you know that kind of the day when you just get to work and know that it's going to be a bad day?
18:23:38  <hallijo>Hi, i'm trying to connect to redistogo and I get this "[09/10 18:15:32 GMT] ld.so.1: node: fatal: relocation error: file /opt/haibu/apps/hallijo/testapp/package/node_modules/redis/node_modules/hiredis/build/Release/hiredis.node: symbol redisReaderCreate: referenced symbol not found"
18:23:49  <sberryman>it is that day.. although your day is technically over isnt it?
18:24:14  <mmalecki>sberryman: devops work day is 24 hours long ;)
18:24:18  <hallijo>Any clue what's going on ?
18:24:21  <mmalecki>also, nope, I just got to work really
18:24:49  <mmalecki>it's easier for me to sleep until 14, fuck around and then get to work when SF and NY are up
18:25:07  <mmalecki>hallijo: hey. please bundle redis dependency and remove hiredis
18:25:35  <mmalecki>that is, add "bundleDependencies": ["redis"] to package.json
18:26:00  <sberryman>are you guys sick of talking about redis yet? ;)
18:26:01  <mmalecki>then edit node_modules/redis/package.json and remove hiredis
18:26:04  <yawnt>we could add redis to errors.jit.su
18:26:05  <yawnt>:3
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18:26:27  <mmalecki>yawnt: if you do that, you're getting a beer at lxjs
18:26:50  <mmalecki>fuck, you're getting 10 beers
18:26:51  <hallijo> "dependencies": { "redis": "*", "websocket-server": "*" } this is what i have , is it incorrect ?
18:27:05  <sberryman>hallijo: that is fine but you also need to bundle it
18:27:05  <mmalecki>nope, this is good, you need another entry tho
18:27:19  <sberryman>i love the reason it hasnt been published yet (https://github.com/mranney/node_redis/issues/258)
18:27:39  <sberryman>ranney is the only one who can publish and he is busy
18:27:59  <hallijo>bundle it meaning ? sorry how thick I am
18:28:20  <AvianFlu>hallijo: you're not thick, you just haven't had to do this before :D
18:28:25  <traleigh>Hey - so, I've bundled a bunch of my dependencies, and removed forever, as suggested. Still getting the same error with bcrypt, though - https://gist.github.com/3692214
18:28:30  <AvianFlu>everybody you'll ever meet was once a noob
18:29:04  <mmalecki>sberryman: gah.
18:29:09  <st_luke>AvianFlu: WHAT ABOUT BENJAMIN BUTTON
18:29:21  <sberryman>lol
18:29:31  <mmalecki>I mean, just give dtrejo the damned privileges...
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18:29:49  <AvianFlu>traleigh: how many times have you tried?
18:30:05  <mmalecki>that's what I do when I'm too busy
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18:30:36  <mmalecki>sberryman: http://techcrunch.com/2012/09/10/godaddy-outage-takes-down-millions-of-sites/
18:30:57  <sberryman>i just like that i'm not the only one
18:31:07  <traleigh>several. I've also tried it both with and without env: { PYTHON: '/opt/local/bin/python2.7' }, as I'd seen that suggested somewhere by someone seeming to have the same problem
18:31:41  <sberryman>what % of people are going to switch dns providers when godaddy comes back up?
18:31:41  <AvianFlu>you no longer need to set the envs yourself
18:32:03  <AvianFlu>traleigh: tonight, we're rolling out a new build server that will get rid of this problem for good
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18:32:23  <AvianFlu>in the meantime, you can try again so that I can watch it live, and maybe make suggestions
18:32:35  <AvianFlu>but the amount of ram these compilations are taking, there's only so much we can do short of that
18:32:58  <sberryman>build server is going to be an awesome addition
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18:33:37  <sberryman>anonymous is claiming responsibility
18:33:40  <sberryman>assholes
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18:34:24  <mikem_>hi, I'm having trouble deploying that looks like a bcrypt issue. Usually it will deploy, but I've had this issue in the past, and it will suddenly deploy again. any ideas?
18:34:54  <AvianFlu>mikem_ it's the same thing I was just explaining a minute ago
18:35:02  <mikem_>ahh, just jumped on
18:35:03  <AvianFlu>we need to move the compile step off of the drone servers
18:35:11  <sberryman>build server cant come soon enough
18:35:16  <AvianFlu>we're deploying a build server tonight that should make it all go away
18:35:49  * mmaleckitopic: Nodejitsu - Host applications. Keep them up. | Cloud Status: all is well! | Maintenance tonight. Running apps won't be affected.
18:35:53  <yawnt>mmalecki: http://errors.jit.su/
18:35:57  <yawnt>we have a deal now.
18:35:58  <yawnt>:P
18:36:12  <mmalecki>yawnt: cool, hit me up
18:36:20  <mmalecki>if I'm too drunk, just take my credit card
18:36:23  <st_luke>AvianFlu: nice, I'm thinking about making an automated debian PPA in node sometime, you'll have to let me know how things go with the build server
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18:36:51  <AvianFlu>st_luke: save yourself the trouble, the core guys are gonna start doing .deb and .rpm releases
18:37:21  <traleigh>ah, fair enough. I'll give it a shot again tomorrow, then, and see how it goes. Thanks for the help.
18:38:02  <sberryman>yawnt: how does npm uninstall hiredis fix the bundle issue? that doesnt modify package.json for redis does it?
18:38:20  <sberryman>or does npm just take what is already in node_modules when it creates the package?
18:38:36  <ag4ve>how do y'all connect your models to views? i'm using globals but was wondering if there was a better way?
18:38:40  <coderarity>i think it can with like --save
18:39:11  <yawnt>sberryman: if hiredis is installed
18:39:14  <yawnt>redis doesn't install it
18:39:21  <sberryman>yay! godaddy dns hosting is back up
18:39:24  <yawnt>so you trick it into believing there is
18:39:31  <yawnt>then you uninstall it
18:39:35  <mikem_>avianflu: didn't catch everything. Is there anything that can be done before the fix tonight?
18:39:36  <yawnt>and redis is forced to use the js parser
18:41:11  <AvianFlu>mikem_: you can try bundling your non-compiled dependencies
18:41:19  <AvianFlu>it can often make enough room in memory to have it succeed
18:42:16  <sberryman>yawnt: interesting, figured npm install on nodejitsu side would still try hiredis as it is in the package.json for redis but then again it is bundled
18:42:49  <st_luke>AvianFlu: not for node packages, to build .debs for other random shit I have to use a lot
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18:43:12  <AvianFlu>oh
18:44:55  <hallijo>T
18:44:56  <st_luke>so I don't have to do stuff like build a reasonable version of couch when I spin up a new db server
18:45:03  <sberryman>why did you guys go with zerigo over aws route 53?
18:45:29  <hallijo>thx! , this did it npm install hiredis npm install redis npm uninstall hiredis
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18:46:01  <mmalecki>st_luke: bootstrap scripts?
18:46:26  <mmalecki>or compile on one server, tar it up, unpack somewhere else
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18:46:54  <st_luke>mmalecki: even with bootstrap scripts I have to wait for a long compile to finish
18:47:30  <st_luke>ideally I can apt-get install couchdb on debian and get a reasonable version and have it set up properly in the init daemon
18:49:53  <st_luke>if I'm going to compile it and store it in a tarball then I might as well go all the way and set it up properly in a repo for the OS
18:50:40  <mmalecki>sure :)
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18:52:13  <mmalecki>alias "+x"="chmod +x" <3
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18:55:57  <garrettwilkin>still trying to get loggly to work with flatiron
18:56:16  <garrettwilkin>i did get the npm tests with winston-loggly to pass, which is encouraging
18:56:37  <garrettwilkin>i was trying to investigate a bit further, and i find that flatiron.app is undefined
18:56:42  <garrettwilkin>pretty odd, right?
18:56:53  <garrettwilkin>like if i inspect app or app.log they are both undefined.
18:56:59  <sberryman>dns.godaddy.com (finally logged in) and now i get "No domains in list."
18:57:00  <garrettwilkin>that doesn't seem right to me
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18:57:28  <st_luke>jesusabdullah: "you got somethin' there on your jitsu"
18:57:58  <st_luke>garrettwilkin: loggly sucks
18:58:05  <garrettwilkin>lol yea
18:58:11  <st_luke>don't be surprised if something isn't your fault and it's just being crappy
18:58:22  <st_luke>unfortunately :(
18:58:34  <garrettwilkin>st_luke: I've actually seen the logs hit loggly when i use the winston-loggly package
18:58:50  <garrettwilkin>i set up to config, and then actually saw the tests hit my account dashboard
18:59:09  <garrettwilkin>but when i try to replicate it in my flatiron app, it just doesn't work
18:59:18  <yawnt>✓ Twitter login
18:59:23  <yawnt>next up is Github
18:59:34  <yawnt>and i'm seriously considering not using facebook
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19:00:00  <yawnt>btw sberryman .. it was anon which took down godaddy
19:00:01  <yawnt>so it appears
19:00:21  <sberryman>it's great isnt it?
19:00:28  <garrettwilkin>theres a few things i don't understand. Flatiron docs say that the log plugin is there by default… but if i try to use app.log before saying app.use(flatiron.plugins.log); i get an error saying "cannot call method log of undefined"
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19:03:59  <mikem_>since I was having trouble deploying, I activated a snapshot but the application is still down
19:04:06  <mikem_>app: parisunderbelly
19:04:52  <coderarity>mikem_: lemme check it out
19:05:18  <mikem_>thanks
19:06:01  <sberryman>haha, anyone watch the news room on hbo?
19:06:02  * V1changed nick to `3rdEden
19:06:31  <sberryman>https://twitter.com/WillMcAvoyACN
19:06:49  <sberryman>"Much like the Danica Patrick driven stock car they sponsor, GoDaddy's DNS servers have crashed."
19:10:40  <AvianFlu>ahahahahhahahah
19:11:46  <sberryman>it would be really REALLY smart of any DNS provider to provide an "import" button once godaddy comes back up
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19:12:14  <sberryman>i dont want to manually re-create all the records in route 53 :(
19:13:09  <AvianFlu>sberryman: a few have them
19:13:51  <sberryman>this is what i get for using free dns
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19:17:49  <sberryman>do you guys feel like extending the session timeout on develop.nodejitsu.com? :)
19:18:32  <mmalecki>Nodejitsu - Host applications. Keep them up. | Cloud Status: all is well! | Maintenance at 5 AM UTC. Running apps won't be affected.
19:18:35  <mmalecki>ugh
19:18:39  * mmaleckitopic: Nodejitsu - Host applications. Keep them up. | Cloud Status: all is well! | Maintenance at 5 AM UTC. Running apps won't be affected.
19:19:04  <sberryman>9pm pacific?
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19:19:31  <mmalecki>probably? not sure
19:21:11  <st_luke>sberryman: utc === gmt, currently 7 hours ahead of pacific
19:21:36  <sberryman>ah yes, daylight savings
19:21:43  <sberryman>10 pm :)
19:21:45  <yawnt>✓ Github login
19:21:52  <yawnt>productive coding is productive \ò\
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19:24:28  * AvianFlutopic: Nodejitsu - Host applications. Keep them up. | Cloud Status: all is well! | Maintenance at 5 AM UTC. Deploys will be offline for about an hour. Running apps won't be affected.
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19:34:37  <coderarity>mikem_: can you deploy again?
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19:45:01  <Sly>coderarity, <3
19:45:08  <Sly>yawnt, <3
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19:47:29  <st_luke>AvianFlu: ping
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19:49:52  <mikem_>coderarity: just deployed, no luck
19:51:36  <AvianFlu>st_luke: what's good
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19:52:12  <st_luke>is marak on irc somewhere? I want to ask him something
19:52:16  <st_luke>he's hard to get in touch with lately
19:53:12  <st_luke>I saw him at stackhouse last week though, he's got a pretty epic beard going on right now
19:54:42  <yawnt>yo Sly
19:54:48  <Sly>How are you?
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19:55:37  <yawnt>getting a break from coding
19:55:43  <yawnt>watching Elementary
19:55:47  <coderarity>alright
19:58:09  <Sly>Nice.
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20:02:18  <coderarity>mikem_: you hit a weird drone, fixed but can you deploy again?
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20:16:02  <mikem_>coderarity: still doesn't deploy
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20:19:58  <coderarity>mikem_: can I see your package.json?
20:21:04  <mikem_>https://gist.github.com/3693566
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20:23:49  <Sly>coderarity, https://github.com/flatiron/winston/issues/177
20:24:29  <Sly>Not exactly sure how to go about fixing that.
20:25:49  <yawnt>Sly: i'd try buffer.toString
20:26:30  <yawnt>even though console.log should actually call ih
20:26:32  <yawnt>*it
20:26:34  <coderarity>mikem_: add some of those non-bcrypt to bunleDependencies
20:26:35  <yawnt>uhm
20:27:04  <coderarity>mikem_: like jade and underscore and knox
20:27:06  <Sly>Well, I would just clone `cycle` and edit it.. but it doesn't have a `package.json` file in the repo, and it doesn't seem to have any module exports.
20:27:14  <Sly>So that's why I'm kinda stumped on what to do about it.
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20:29:57  <Sly>process.platform == 'win32' on Windows, right?
20:30:07  * Slydoesn't use Windows. xD
20:30:29  <yawnt>yeah win32
20:31:08  <yawnt>Sly: you could get the npm package
20:31:17  <yawnt>push it on your github account
20:31:33  <yawnt>and do a npm install git:// to check if it fixes stuff
20:31:58  <Sly>True, but there won't be any way for me to publish it to NPM without changing it to another name.
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20:32:22  <yawnt>you don't actually need to
20:32:39  <yawnt>you can just edit winston's package.json
20:32:44  <yawnt>and link cycle to your fork
20:32:55  <yawnt>when dscape comes online, you can let him push the updated stuff
20:33:16  <Sly>'link cycle'?
20:33:46  <yawnt>https://github.com/flatiron/winston/blob/master/package.json#L21
20:33:47  <yawnt>becomes
20:34:00  <yawnt>"cycle": "git://github.com/Sly/yourfork.git"
20:34:16  <Sly>Ah, okay. Wasn't aware you could use direct links in NPM.
20:34:21  <Sly>Then again, I haven't really used NPM all that much. xD
20:34:21  <yawnt>yeah you can
20:34:25  <yawnt>np
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20:35:42  <yawnt>that was fast
20:36:03  <Sly>Changing hosts, more than likely.
20:36:30  <Sly>Wow, even this guy's Github repo is out of date. -_-;;;
20:36:39  <yawnt>what guy?
20:36:48  <Sly>The guy that maintains `cycle`.
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20:36:58  <yawnt>douglas crockford?
20:37:02  <Sly>Yeah.
20:37:05  <yawnt>lol
20:37:10  <yawnt>do you know who he is?
20:37:48  * Slyshrugs.
20:37:50  <yawnt>by the way he's not maintaining cycle.. cycle's just a package dscape made with a part of JSON-js
20:37:56  <Sly>Ah.
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20:38:32  <yawnt>he's basically the creator of jslink and json
20:38:39  <yawnt>douglas crockford i mean
20:38:42  <yawnt>*jslint
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20:41:38  <Sly>Well, actually. His repo doesn't have a package.json or anything, but it's the most recent of cycle.js.
20:41:44  <Sly>/ cycle.js
20:41:45  <Sly>/ 2011-08-24
20:41:48  <yawnt>that's because
20:41:49  <Sly>Current one being used from NPM..
20:41:53  <yawnt>it's not a nodejs package
20:41:59  <yawnt>it's just json in javascript
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20:43:26  <Sly>Ah. I see dscape pushed it to NPM.
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20:44:34  <Sly>K, that's a no.
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20:45:07  <dscape>Sly: there is a repo for it
20:45:09  <dscape>crockfords
20:45:14  <dscape>json2 i think
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20:45:23  <dscape>i just published it so i could use it
20:45:23  <Sly>Yeah. I found his repo already.
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20:46:23  <Sly>Yeah. I was confused for a minute. I didn't pay attention to the line that said "maintainer: ****dscape****"
20:46:26  * Slyfacepalms.
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20:46:44  <yawnt>heya dscape :D
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20:49:38  <Sly>Do you think it would be more appropriate to split up Buffer into an array of hex, or just toString it?
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20:53:22  <yawnt>http://www.thenetway.it/perche.html
20:53:26  <yawnt>webdesign made in italy
20:53:27  <yawnt>JAY
20:53:31  <yawnt>*YAY
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21:00:08  <soroush>Can't deploy. Socket hangs up. Please see https://gist.github.com/3693806
21:00:19  <Sly>I think I can fix it without having to mess with cycle.
21:01:07  <mikem_>coderarity: still wont deploy, heres the new package.json https://gist.github.com/3693815
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21:02:31  <Sly>Yeah, nvm.
21:02:58  <coderarity>mikem_: probably need to add more non-compiled dependencies then, i think express, formidable, and connect could be bundled too
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21:05:28  <ag4ve>anyone here use mongo? when i do a find, it returns empty arrays for related schemas. any ideas?
21:05:55  <mikem_>coderarity: ok, deployed, but get the nodejitsu 404 at http://app.parisunderbelly.com/ and http://parisunderbelly.jit.su
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21:09:27  <coderarity>sorensen: you deployed now?
21:09:29  <Sly>You know, yawnt and dscape..
21:09:50  <coderarity>mikem_: what version of jitsu are you on?
21:09:51  <Sly>I just noticed that it's not necessarily a bug. Just an annoyance. I can still add the fix in if you want..
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21:10:46  <JoshRWeinstein>hi all - anyone have experience wrangling with internet explorer?
21:10:53  <dscape>yawnt: :W
21:12:29  <Sly>$ node test
21:12:29  <Sly>info: Test log message. a=a, 0=186, 1=0, 2=0, 3=0, 4=0, 5=12, 6=23, 7=0, 8=0, 9=76, length=10, offset=5576
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21:12:42  <yawnt>Forget ninjas and rock stars, we are an angel funded startup looking for a hard working porn star to join our production.
21:12:43  <Sly>That's what the fix looks like.
21:12:47  <yawnt>what the hell?
21:12:59  <yawnt>this is getting out of control
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21:13:08  <yawnt>first there was ninja, then rock stars, then wizards
21:13:58  <yawnt>dscape: prepare a book title about portuguese recipes.. i'm buying it while i'm in lisbon :P
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21:16:18  <mikem_>coderarity: 0.8.7, I tried deploying again, and didnt work
21:16:41  <coderarity>mikem_: you should update jitsu
21:16:47  <coderarity>mikem_: npm i jitsu -g
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21:19:02  <Sly>https://github.com/flatiron/winston/issues/177 @ dscape
21:21:35  <sberryma_>fucking godaddy
21:23:13  <sberryma_>almost 4 hours now
21:24:27  <coderarity>it's kinda fun, if you think about it
21:24:33  <coderarity>4 hours of DNS breaking fun
21:25:32  <coderarity>there's a 24/7 phone number, you could call them
21:25:38  <yawnt>guy claims he got in with a SQL/LDAP injection + buffer overflow
21:25:56  <yawnt>https://twitter.com/AnonymousOwn3r/status/245261457435004928
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21:26:22  <sberryma_>coderarity: haha, and wait on hold for 24 more hours? :)
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21:27:20  <sberryma_>their ops team must be having fun
21:27:34  <coderarity>yeah
21:27:40  <yawnt>yeah
21:27:46  <sberryma_>i've got my zone setup and ready to go in aws route 53
21:27:53  <sberryma_>just cant switch name servers
21:28:16  <yawnt>https://twitter.com/GoDaddy/status/245213898683318272
21:28:18  <yawnt>lol poor guys
21:29:01  <sberryma_>with sql injection at least the ops guys can point their fingers
21:29:04  <yawnt>no one deserves to work like that on monday
21:30:07  <sberryma_>to top it off it is 82, high humidity and no wind... mac says incoming air is 82 degrees which i call bullshit on
21:30:21  <coderarity>sberryma_: it was 100 a few days ago here
21:30:23  <mmalecki>I really envy them to be honest, ops are probably good guys
21:30:43  <sberryma_>well i don't have AC
21:30:57  <coderarity>sberryma_: at least electricity is cheap
21:30:58  <yawnt>mmalecki: envy?
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21:31:22  <yawnt>isn't envy like 'id like to be in their place' ?
21:31:33  <sberryman>coderarity: i think our bill is around $180/m
21:31:46  <coderarity>sberryman: how many people you live with?
21:31:49  <sberryman>about the same price as cable+internet
21:31:52  <sberryman>3 of us
21:32:01  <sberryman>all work from home
21:32:07  <coderarity>sberryman: ours is like 300$/month and there's 4 of us
21:32:08  <sberryman>too many plasma tv's as well
21:32:15  <mmalecki>yawnt: er, don't envy
21:32:17  <mmalecki>rather
21:32:30  <coderarity>actually it might have been 340
21:32:42  <sberryman>ours goes up quite a bit in the winter
21:32:52  <yawnt>mmalecki: yeah i got it :)
21:32:53  <yawnt>as i said
21:32:58  <yawnt>no one deserves to work that hard
21:33:02  <yawnt>especially on monday!
21:33:11  <mmalecki>but yeah, well, I've had this kind of night too
21:33:22  <yawnt>all around outage?
21:33:25  <yawnt>really?
21:34:08  <sberryman>he's had me raising issues for about 8 hours straight one night
21:34:34  <sberryman>it was pretty awesome, he even built a new feature that night and deployed it
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21:34:49  <sberryman>^ talking about mmalecki
21:36:56  <yawnt>i got a friend of mine
21:37:04  <yawnt>whose startup runs entirely on Godaddy's dns
21:37:11  <yawnt>he's pretty much panicking right now :(
21:37:25  <sberryman>yawnt: that is me as well
21:37:38  <sberryman>i have a reservation system for golf courses
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21:37:49  <yawnt>he has a social game
21:37:55  <yawnt>and it's evening here in italy
21:37:58  <sberryman>none of them have been able to take reservations at the golf course all day
21:37:59  <yawnt>so most people play at this time
21:38:17  <yawnt>and he can't even move the domain because the panel is down and everything
21:38:35  <sberryman>haha, my exact situation
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21:39:02  <sberryman>i was able to get in an export the records and have since created everything in amazon route 53... but the all important step of changing the name server i cant do
21:39:34  <Sly>This is why I host my DNS elsewhere. :x
21:39:39  <Sly>LULZ
21:39:43  <Sly>It's just coming on my local news.
21:39:57  <Sly>And now it's over.
21:40:03  <Sly>Fucks given.. 0
21:40:06  <yawnt>i host dns at cloudflare
21:40:09  <Sly>^
21:40:12  <yawnt>if they can't handle ddos
21:40:14  <yawnt>well, fuck
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21:40:35  <sberryman>yawnt: i thought you said it was sql injection
21:40:45  <sberryman>sql injection + ddos?
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21:41:01  <yawnt>sql/ldap inj + a buffer overflow
21:41:09  <yawnt>hey i'm just telling what the tweet said
21:41:12  <yawnt>a buffer overflow?
21:41:22  <yawnt>godaddy's probably running hardened servers
21:41:26  <yawnt>have fun breaking that
21:41:46  <yawnt>plus fairly recent linux has dep + aslr n
21:41:49  <Sly>Apparently he did have fun.
21:41:50  <Sly>:x
21:41:53  <yawnt>and ubuntu even has an ascii armour
21:42:45  <sberryman>at&t is having fun today too, dropping a ton of my calls
21:43:03  <sberryman>at least siri is working ;)
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21:44:08  <coderarity>brb restart
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21:46:35  <ktk>anyone here used restful? I'm trying to figure out where to hook in for handling the http request when I use resourceful object for CRUD and docs were not really helpful so far
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21:48:31  <sberryman>ktk: restify?
21:50:43  <ktk>eh right
21:50:44  <ktk>sorry
21:51:31  <ktk>I got the sample up, crud works in memory. but I need to get the posted http data and send stuff back there
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21:52:11  <ktk>eh no restful: https://github.com/flatiron/restful
21:52:19  <sberryman>ahhh
21:52:23  <ktk>all those names confuse me :)
21:52:27  <sberryman>well you are on the right channel for help :)
21:52:32  <sberryman>i use restify
21:52:52  <ktk>restify is in the flatiron stack too?
21:53:03  <sberryman>no, it is from a guy working for joyent
21:53:13  <ktk>ah right I had a look at that to
21:53:13  <sberryman>you will have to wait until one of the devs to come on, but they are here all the time
21:53:14  <ktk>too
21:53:23  <ktk>ok tnx will lurk around
21:53:35  <ktk>their stack looks great but it's not really obvious for noobs like me
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21:53:59  <ktk>just got into node a while ago, perl/php/java poisoned past ;)
21:54:44  <sberryman>wooohooo!!! i was finally able to change my nameservers on godaddy
21:55:04  <sberryman>ktk: really smart guys working for nodejitsu
21:55:34  <jesusabdullah>what's up ktk?
21:56:28  <jesusabdullah>ktk: maybe checking out the source for formful is what you want to do? It's quite short, but it shows you how to use multiple routers and such
21:57:03  <ktk>jesusabdullah: ah good point, will do that
21:57:12  <ktk>hij1nx talked me into flatiron last week on a small workshop in zurich :-D
21:57:28  <ktk>the stuff looks fantastic but complexity is not easy to grasp for newbies like me
21:57:58  <ktk>or let's say how the different parts work together
21:58:05  <ktk>pretty sure it's pretty straight forward once I get it :)
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21:59:44  <jbpros>hi there -- I'm getting a "Error running command deploy" followed by "socket hang up" when doing `jitsu deploy`. How can I debug this?
22:00:00  <coderarity>jbpros: hi
22:00:10  <jbpros>coderarity: hey
22:00:16  <coderarity>jbpros: what's your username/app name?
22:00:28  <jbpros>coderarity: jbpros/cukecipes
22:01:04  <jbpros>coderarity: `jitsu logs app cukecipes` does not help.
22:01:35  <coderarity>it's just `jitsu logs` from your app directory
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22:02:16  <coderarity>but you can do it that way i suppose
22:02:26  <jbpros>"error running command logs" :)
22:03:06  <coderarity>jbpros: logs get throttled by loggly atm, so sometimes the logs don't work
22:03:38  <jbpros>coderarity: ok
22:04:52  <jbpros>coderarity: could it be the unconfigured mongoose connection that makes it all fail?
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22:05:22  <coderarity>jbpros: try deploying again
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22:05:39  <ktk>jesusabdullah: tnx for the hint, I think I get the idea with the default handler which I can override. Will try tomorrow and get back here in case I can't get it to work. bedtime here.
22:05:48  <coderarity>jbpros: unconfigured mongoose connection will try to connect to localhost, and it will fail on nodejitsu because there's no mongodb running on the servers
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22:06:19  <coderarity>jbpros: that may or may not crash your app, but in this case it didn't make it that far
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22:06:41  <jbpros>coderarity: http://cl.ly/image/403l0o1q2V1q
22:07:28  <jbpros>coderarity: thanks for the clarification about mongo
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22:08:27  <coderarity>jbpros: can I see your package.json?
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22:09:19  <jbpros>coderarity: https://gist.github.com/3694343
22:12:06  <mikem_>coderarity: still having trouble with deploying parisunderbelly, I updated jitsu to 0.9.8 and get https://gist.github.com/3694347
22:15:42  <coderarity>jbpros: yeah, maybe try bundling some of those non-compiled dependencies, like express and nopt, and give it another shot?
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22:16:10  <jbpros>coderarity: alright, thanks
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22:17:03  <sberryman>what is new in 0.9.8?
22:18:08  <coderarity>sberryman: could look at the commit log, probably important fixes for the most part
22:18:13  <sberryman>just did :)
22:18:18  <sberryman>it was me being lazy
22:18:26  <mmalecki>btw
22:18:34  <mmalecki>"Thank you $%^#@ hackers! Your $%^#$ actions are impacting a small business owner just trying to make a buck!" - comment under that TC article
22:18:42  <mmalecki>> mfw hackers
22:19:23  <sberryman>monday's are not busy golf days, otherwise i would have been screwed
22:19:52  <mmalecki>heh
22:20:06  <yawnt>mh
22:20:11  <yawnt>elementary ain't that great
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22:20:57  <sberryman>hmmm, why wouldnt "sudo npm update jitsu" update to 0.9.8?
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22:21:32  <coderarity>sberryman: i'm not sure it's meant to do that with global things
22:21:39  <coderarity>sberryman: just do `sudo npm i jitsu -g`
22:22:05  <sberryman>hahaha, it was that pesky -g
22:22:19  <sberryman>i've been dumbed down by godaddy today
22:22:22  <yawnt>also
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22:22:31  <yawnt>npm install jitsu@0.9.8 -g works
22:23:58  <sberryman>i want 0.9.9 though
22:24:18  <coderarity>mikem_: you're still running out of memory, you'll need to bundle more dependencies
22:24:48  <sberryman>coderarity: are you guys still going to suggest bundling deps when you have the buildserver up tonight?
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22:24:56  <coderarity>no
22:25:09  <coderarity>it shouldn't run out of memory
22:25:11  <mmalecki>that build server is the best thing since sliced bread
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22:25:24  <sberryman>mmalecki: is that because you wrote it?
22:25:31  <mmalecki>haha, no :)
22:25:46  <mmalecki>it's not like I do everything
22:25:49  <coderarity>sliced bread is prtty sweet though
22:25:50  <coderarity>idk
22:25:53  <mmalecki>I still need time to drink my ass off
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22:26:11  <sberryman>i hate when they don't slice bagels
22:26:20  <mmalecki>oh, yeah, that ^
22:26:32  <sberryman>and trader joes never sells sliced bagels
22:26:45  <sberryman>i always end up cutting the bagel so 1 side is too thick for the toaster
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22:26:57  <coderarity>:\
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22:27:17  <yawnt>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1X2r8coYAQ
22:27:20  <yawnt>this is so great
22:28:22  <sberryman>i didnt realize until recently that so many people listen to music from youtube
22:28:45  <mmalecki>I don't usually do that, but I often link to music like that
22:29:22  <sberryman>and here is ADD kicking in but apple finally added airplay output to the list of devices in the sound pref pane
22:29:34  <sberryman>which is my favorite feature of mountain lion
22:29:52  <yawnt>mmalecki: it helps me concentrate
22:31:30  <sberryman>i think companies should be required to pay for spotify/pandora (or any other music service) + buy really high end headphones for every developer
22:32:38  <sberryman>+ a decent DAC
22:32:56  <yawnt>i can't code with headphones
22:33:12  <sberryman>really?
22:33:12  <yawnt>i mean.. it's okay if i have to listen to movies or stuff
22:33:18  <yawnt>but if it's 6+ hours
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22:33:32  <yawnt>like when i code
22:33:38  <yawnt>i get headaches and other bad stuff
22:33:45  <yawnt>so i just turn on the radio
22:34:06  <yawnt>or a cd.. that doesn't hurt
22:34:26  <sberryman>so just standard speakers
22:34:49  <yawnt>no speakers
22:35:20  <yawnt>i have a stereo
22:35:20  <sberryman>according to steve jobs cd's are a legacy technology
22:35:37  <yawnt>yeah well
22:35:44  <yawnt>i plug the mp3 into the stereo
22:35:46  <yawnt>so no cd
22:35:52  <sberryman>lol
22:36:10  <yawnt>i don't know why.. it just happens when i use heaphones a lot
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22:36:26  <sberryman>yeah, i only really use them when i want to listen to music REALLY loud
22:36:43  <sberryman>most of the time it is airplay to my receiver
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22:41:42  <coderarity>people listen to music on actual speakers?
22:43:07  <yawnt>:(
22:43:10  <yawnt>i feel bad now
22:43:19  <yawnt>I CAN'T USE HEADPHONES
22:43:29  <coderarity>really?
22:43:40  <yawnt>(╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻)
22:43:42  <yawnt>as i said
22:43:49  <yawnt>if i use headphones for like 6+ hours
22:43:52  <yawnt>i get headaches
22:44:07  <yawnt>so movie is fine, mp3 is fine but coding session? that's not
22:44:13  <coderarity>yawnt: do you mean like, over the head headphones?
22:44:16  <coderarity>maybe earbuds are better
22:44:31  <yawnt>no
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22:44:40  <yawnt>like headache because i keep hearing stuff in my ear
22:44:41  <yawnt>*ears
22:44:43  <yawnt>it's too near
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22:46:49  <coderarity>i see
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22:50:54  <jfsiii1>having trouble doing my first deploy: https://gist.github.com/3694522
22:51:38  * tizzo-afkchanged nick to tizzo
22:52:54  <jfsiii1>tried it again: https://gist.github.com/3694531
22:53:01  <jfsiii1>so close
22:56:15  <jfsiii1>^ anyone know what I'm doing wrong or what's going on?
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23:04:56  <jesusabdullah>jfsiii1: say "yes" instead of "no"
23:05:41  <yawnt>lol
23:05:44  <yawnt>haha
23:05:59  <yawnt>btw i'm out
23:05:59  <ag4ve>how do y'all parse posted json in flatiron? JSON.parse doesn't seem to work ... it throws. JSON.stringify looks odd. is there something i should've seen?
23:06:02  <yawnt>cya tomorrow guys
23:06:10  <yawnt>ag4ve: require-analyzer
23:06:49  <yawnt>bb
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23:07:44  <ag4ve>dependency checker?
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23:09:15  <jfsiii1>jesusabdullah: said 'yes' in https://gist.github.com/3694522 (failed). Said 'no' in https://gist.github.com/3694531 (failed differently)
23:10:04  <jfsiii1>jesusabdullah: ^ s/b said `yes` both times
23:13:18  <coderarity>jfsiii1: it's that version field
23:13:32  <coderarity>jfsiii1: try making it "version": "0.0.0"
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23:13:54  <coderarity>jfsiii1: looks like you meant "0.0.1" actually
23:14:48  <jfsiii1>coderarity: I "meant" `0.0.1`. Perhaps it "requires" `0.0.1`?
23:15:06  <coderarity>jfsiii1: yeah, 0.01 is in invalid version number
23:15:27  <coderarity>jfsiii1: if you change that, it should work
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23:16:17  <jfsiii1>codearity: I didn't type 0.01. I typed 0.1.0. Checking other values now
23:17:05  <coderarity>it must have updated your package.json wrong or something, you'll just have to edit package.json and change it back
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23:20:25  <jfsiii1>codearity: continued fale https://gist.github.com/3694717
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23:22:44  <coderarity>:O
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