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00:35:16  <zeus>jesusabdullah: Hey, remember helping me out with ECONNREFUSED redis error recently?? Although I haven't changed anything, some how its back on my latest deploy
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00:46:26  <zeus>jesusabdullah: Any idea why my Redis error is back?
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00:47:51  <john__>hi folks, nodejitsu rookie here. It's probably a very basic question but how do you pass arguments to a node app deployed on nodejitsu?
00:48:25  <john__>I tried through the config parameter of package.json but my app doesn't find it...
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00:49:39  <chilts>john__: I know you can set environment variables which your app can read
00:49:44  <chilts>not sure about passing arguments
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00:50:01  <john__>that would work, how do you do that?
00:50:08  <chilts>https://github.com/nodejitsu/handbook#environment-variable-management
00:50:12  <chilts>does that help?
00:50:58  <john__>ahh, that's pretty cool
00:51:05  <john__>yep that will work, thx!
00:51:07  <chilts>:)
00:52:04  <john__>and that handbook will be.... handy! bookmarked!
00:52:10  <chilts>heh
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02:23:27  <sakkaku>anyone getting auth server down for webhooks.nodejitsu.com?
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02:41:50  <panzi>ok, I ported to node-sqlite3, but now I get a different error
02:42:15  <panzi>well
02:42:29  <panzi>jitsu deploy gives me an error, but it seems to work
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03:00:42  <Nodejitsu-Github>[jitsu] blakmatrix created arg_currying_congruity_jul_2012 (+17 new commits): http://git.io/cFrgbQ
03:00:42  <Nodejitsu-Github>[jitsu/arg_currying_congruity_jul_2012] [api] added utile as dependency - Farrin Reid
03:00:42  <Nodejitsu-Github>[jitsu/arg_currying_congruity_jul_2012] [api][dist] required utile as dependency - Farrin Reid
03:00:42  <Nodejitsu-Github>[jitsu/arg_currying_congruity_jul_2012] [api] used utile to determine callback with deploy function - Farrin Reid
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03:37:24  <mappum>I have a feature request: a built-in nginx static server
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03:37:46  <mappum>Users would be able to set a static directory in their package.json, and you guys could serve it
03:38:00  <coderarity>mappum, just serve it yourself
03:38:03  <mappum>Most production node apps use nginx rather than node for the static stuff
03:38:09  <coderarity>mappum, check out ecstatic
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03:38:16  <coderarity>!gh jesusabdullah/ecstatic
03:38:18  <kohai>coderarity, https://github.com/jesusabdullah/ecstatic
03:38:23  <mappum>It puts unneccessary load on node though, and node isn't as good at it
03:38:31  <mappum>404
03:38:53  <coderarity>!gh jesusabdullah/node-ecstatic
03:38:58  <kohai>coderarity, https://github.com/jesusabdullah/node-ecstatic
03:39:00  <coderarity>:P
03:39:20  <coderarity>mappum, if it's a big deal in your app, you should definitely be using a CDN anywaysa
03:39:34  <mappum>thats what i do
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03:39:40  <mappum>that's what made me want it
03:39:56  <mappum>it feels dumb to have part hosted on AWS and part on nodejitsu
03:39:58  <coderarity>i'm not sure if we have plans to integrate with any CDN's in the future
03:40:27  <mappum>:/
03:40:54  <mappum>heh, nodejs.org is served by nginx
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03:42:02  <coderarity>that could be a cool idea though, like just upload a folder to a public cdn for you i guess, kinda like my node-cloudfiles-manager thing did
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03:42:57  <mappum>most people already have the static stuff in /public
03:43:15  <coderarity>then again, not sure why that'd have to be in jitsu
03:43:43  <mappum>it just makes things seem simpler to me
03:43:50  <coderarity>mappum, i don't make these decisions, but is there any benefit to having us host it than doing a CDN?
03:43:56  <coderarity>in fact doing a CDN should be much faster
03:44:34  <mappum>if people want to instantly deploy an app, they don't want to set up 2 services
03:44:45  <mappum>i just mean you would be the cdn
03:44:52  <mappum>idk, maybe you could outsource it to AWS
03:44:57  <mappum>this is just my opinion
03:45:06  <coderarity>mappum, being a CDN is more than just having servers that host static data
03:45:32  <mappum>i respect if thats not the direction you guys want, it just would make me happier :D
03:45:34  <coderarity>mappum, the servers are distributed around the world, so that it's really fast to get to the closest static server
03:45:48  <mappum>right
03:45:49  <coderarity>mappum, i do think we may have plans to integrate with a CDN
03:46:00  <coderarity>mappum, but i don't think there's any plans to host a CDN of our own at the time
03:46:12  <mappum>well i didnt mean you had to do your own
03:46:19  <mappum>just host it somehow off of node
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03:46:44  <coderarity>alright
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03:47:02  <mappum>im also curious how the paid plans will work, they auto scale the node instances, right?
03:47:10  <coderarity>mappum, yeah
03:47:32  <mappum>is that what the "drones" they refer to are?
03:47:39  <mappum>the number of instances?
03:47:48  <coderarity>yeah
03:48:04  <mappum>ok
03:48:13  <mappum>how does the auto-scale logic work, and do we have any control over it?
03:48:19  <coderarity>not sure yet
03:48:33  <mappum>ok
03:48:35  <mappum>gracias
03:48:39  <coderarity>np
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03:49:57  <mappum>about what? D:
03:50:25  <coderarity>mappum, not really sure, i guess i had a pretty bad dream that i cannot remember
03:50:42  <coderarity>probably about my ex
03:51:13  <mappum>it was about me ddosing the joyent servers
03:51:16  <mappum>in 3...
03:51:17  <mappum>2...
03:51:20  <mappum>1...
03:51:52  <mappum>not really
03:52:06  <mappum>i hope someone checked if their app was up
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04:01:57  <zeus>Can anyone help me out with my Redis Errors? the workaround from jesusabdullah and AvianFlu that worked yesterday is now some how broken?
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04:04:14  <zeus>...
04:04:33  <coderarity>zeus, hi
04:04:48  <zeus>coderarity: Hey, thanks for responding.
04:05:17  <coderarity>zeus, can you gist the errors?
04:06:07  <zeus>coderarity: Not sure if you are aware, but apparently there is issue with Redis where the nested dependencies with hiredis cause wierd issues. They had me move my redis dependencies into the "bundleDependencies" array in my package.json and that fixed the issue a day or two ago, but not is back
04:06:18  <zeus>coderarity: no need for a gist, its one line: An error has occurred: {"code":"ECONNREFUSED","errno":"ECONNREFUSED","syscall":"connect"}
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04:06:51  <coderarity>i'll see what i can figure out
04:06:58  <zeus>coderarity: Ty :)
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04:07:51  <mappum>zeus: just wondering, where do you keep your redis?
04:07:58  <mappum>(as in what service)
04:08:03  <zeus>With nodejitsu
04:08:10  <zeus>and they outsource to redistogo
04:08:15  <mappum>ah
04:08:16  <zeus>(same with Heroku)
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04:18:48  <coderarity>zeus, what's your username?
04:18:57  <zeus>distracteddev
04:19:31  <zeus>coderarity: btw, Do you guys do an npm install on every deploy, or do you simply take the node_modules package as defined in our fs
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04:20:09  <zeus>appname soapbox
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05:02:47  <coderarity>ppcano, you keep quitting and rejoining, might want to check out your IRC stuff
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05:33:13  <zeus>coderarity: Any luck with my redis issue?
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08:32:45  <zeus>Anyone here by any chance?
08:33:50  <ljharb>nope, i'm here intentionally
08:34:07  <zeus>Lol, nice.
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08:35:33  <zeus>I wonder if nodejitsu has a way for me to install phantomjs as a binary.
08:39:24  <jesusabdullah>phantomjs is unsupported
08:39:37  <zeus> crushing :(
08:39:45  <jesusabdullah>that said, if you would like to experiment with getting phantomjs running on nodejitsu somehow I won't get angry or anything
08:39:59  <zeus>Well do I have ssh access into my machine?
08:40:03  <zeus>I mean its just a simple unix binary
08:40:12  <jesusabdullah>No
08:40:17  <jesusabdullah>No ssh access
08:40:21  <jesusabdullah>but you have npm
08:40:31  <zeus>Okay
08:40:41  <zeus>I bet I could just npm up the bin
08:40:42  <jesusabdullah>if you can ship a package that can successfully build phantomjs on npm install
08:40:46  <jesusabdullah>maybe
08:40:49  <jesusabdullah>keep in mind we run SmartOS
08:41:15  <jesusabdullah>Also keep in mind the developer sandbox machines are a bit small for doing anything reasonable with phantomjs
08:41:33  <jesusabdullah>only 256mb slices
08:41:36  <zeus>so how would I get npm to install something into my PATH? npm install -g does that on a workstation, not sure what the equivalent would be in my package.json
08:41:49  <jesusabdullah>Refer to the binary directly
08:41:50  <zeus>Im not doing anything really. Just 1 really important
08:42:07  <zeus>function which all it does is render my app server side. ( all logic and templates are on the front end )
08:42:08  <jesusabdullah>I'm just saying, think about memory requirements here
08:42:12  <jesusabdullah>you may want to do some research
08:42:15  <zeus>Yeha
08:42:24  <zeus>but since you gave me the ticket to experiment
08:42:29  <zeus>I just cant not.
08:42:31  <zeus>>.<
08:42:31  <jesusabdullah>You may also want to think about whether you *really*
08:42:34  <jesusabdullah>want this
08:42:38  <zeus>Oh yes I do
08:42:44  <zeus>I need google to be able to search my page
08:42:51  <zeus>thats not a question :)
08:42:57  <jesusabdullah>that's not what I mean
08:43:02  <ljharb>what does phantomjs have to do with that
08:43:14  <ljharb>if you want your site to be crawlable, make it render on the server like a website should.
08:43:15  <jesusabdullah>I mean, using a dom to render pages is pretty heavy duty for a server
08:43:34  <jesusabdullah>it's usually much better to forego the dom server-side for a number of reasons
08:43:43  <zeus>Yes, but I want my cake and eat it too. You don't get a single page load and slick transitions between pages on a server-side redered app
08:44:01  <jesusabdullah>Even so, you may not want to do this dynamically
08:44:02  <zeus>there are a lot of benefits to keeping the app as a single page and designing you app as a simple JSON api.
08:44:03  <ljharb>sure you do. progressively enhance it with pushState.
08:44:07  <jesusabdullah>usually better to cache this sort of thing
08:44:16  <ljharb>zeus: and a lot of disadvantages too.
08:44:23  <zeus>like?
08:44:44  <jesusabdullah>like coming to the point where you're considering using phantomjs to solve this backwards compatibility issue.
08:45:10  <zeus>Whats wrong with using a perfectly reasonable tool to help Google catch up with 2012
08:45:12  <jesusabdullah>but if you do, see if you can use phantom on your dev box as a pre-compile step
08:45:21  <zeus>Already did
08:45:22  <jesusabdullah>What I'm saying is it's not a reasonable tool
08:45:24  <zeus>it works beautifully
08:45:27  <jesusabdullah>Then do that
08:45:30  <zeus>it renders pages in under a second
08:45:37  <jesusabdullah>No, I mean
08:45:41  <jesusabdullah>Pre-render the pages
08:45:44  <jesusabdullah>and serve them statically
08:45:49  <jesusabdullah>don't render them dynamically
08:45:54  <zeus>so render them on a different box
08:46:00  <jesusabdullah>on YOUR box
08:46:00  <ljharb>zeus: also server-side rendering is far faster. thats why twitter's switching back to it.
08:46:10  <ljharb>like 5-100 times faster.
08:46:30  <jesusabdullah>I mean, if this is what you want to do I won't stop you but my professional advice is that it's a fun hack, nothing more
08:46:38  <zeus>Thanks for optimizing the fastest part. You're still making a request, which is the majority of your time
08:47:19  <ljharb>zeus: show me profiling that shows that the request is your slowest part?
08:47:33  <ljharb>otherwise you're just as wrong as i'd be if i said that rendering was your slowest part.
08:47:38  <ljharb>without data, you can't say either way.
08:48:02  <jesusabdullah>It's not even about speed, it's about complexity and maintainability
08:48:07  <zeus>Yeah, but I do because i've been staring at my Google resources page for the last 3 hours while palying with this
08:48:19  <zeus>Thats the beauty, its a set it and forget it system
08:48:25  <zeus>all it does is render a page, and spit out the HTMl
08:48:53  <zeus>but I want to do it statically anyways
08:48:55  <ljharb>but you're not measuring the time to render in the browser.
08:49:06  <ljharb>and that will vary widely based on the client. and most of them won't have as fast a computer as you.
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08:51:46  <zeus>See what I really care about is the time between the user hitting a link inside the page and that page being fully rendered. And if you look at what the two different systems have to do in that time, you will see that the http request far outweighs the time it takes for my app to render that n+1th page
08:52:18  <ljharb>"fully rendered" is including the javascript time. and you're not measuring that on multiple systems.
08:52:34  <ljharb>http://engineering.twitter.com/2012/05/improving-performance-on-twittercom.html
08:53:10  <zeus>But twitter is much more complex than my app. It makes a significant number more of queries and computes a significant more amount of logic
08:53:44  <zeus>The other thing I really enjoy is the seamlessness of 1 page load
08:53:51  <zeus>the whole experience seems much less jumpy
08:54:03  <zeus>and coming from a UX background, that is quite a pull for me
08:54:55  <ljharb>you can get that exact same experience with server-side rendering.
08:55:02  <ljharb>use ajax to load the new content, and pushState to change the URL.
08:55:28  <zeus>Your still stuck with the same issue of not being able to index your content? Which is why you suggested this in the first place?
08:55:58  <zeus>Oh, map the server renders to urls, but then
08:56:12  <zeus>just use ajax to litterally pull in whole new pages
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08:56:20  <zeus>Lol.
08:56:29  <ljharb>zeus: yes.
08:56:40  <zeus>My app is litterally full loaded in the first page load. That would require waiting for that ajax request to complete
08:56:40  <ljharb>you can overload it in tons of ways to pull in just the content you need
08:56:48  <zeus>but yeah
08:56:53  <zeus>It can denftly be done on both
08:56:54  <ljharb>but the critical part is that every view has a URL that can be viewed with a hard refresh on that URL.
08:57:07  <ljharb>if you want SEO, thats just something you'll have to deal with
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08:57:19  <zeus>Not really, since I just solved it.
08:58:04  <zeus>And if I implement the caching, which I haven't done yet, then it will be even faster and better for google
08:58:38  <zeus>but jesusabdullah, you are right, I am mainly doing this as a fun hack. But I still think its a perfectly viable one for small apps.
09:00:26  <rvagg1>don't assume that Google hasn't caught up with 2012 btw: http://swapped.tumblr.com/post/23133779276/google-bot-now-crawls-arbitrary-javascript-sites
09:01:07  <ljharb>rvagg1: yet if you search for single-page sites, that haven't implemented serverside rendering, you get no results.
09:01:15  <ljharb>so i assume thats just a limited beta.
09:01:33  <zeus>rvagg1: Defntly heard of this, but I assumed that it might not render an Ember app fully? But perhaps I'm not giving them enough credit
09:01:36  <zeus>Yeah
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09:01:43  <zeus>and also I know they dont now that I think about it
09:02:04  <zeus>because I had my app up for a while before I implemented this solution and All it ever indexed was my static alert boxes and a footer i created
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09:22:20  <lpin>anyone awake at this time?
09:22:33  <zeus>oh hey, jesusabdullah, My redis issues from a few days ago are back :S
09:22:41  <zeus>jesusabdullah: Any ideas?
09:22:49  <zeus>lpin: Sure
09:22:58  <lpin>zeus that linking error?
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09:23:36  <zeus>lpin: yeah, where you need to move the pkgs into bundleDeps
09:23:44  <lpin>i get it aswell, but it's a zombie process in my case, since the app works well
09:23:57  <lpin>yeah
09:24:08  <lpin>works without bundling aswell now
09:24:17  <zeus>Thats what I was thinking
09:24:30  <lpin>that spam thing comes from zombie process i think
09:25:05  <zeus>?? Well no, in my case its actually being output on my http response because I store all my data in redis
09:25:39  <lpin>ok
09:26:35  <zeus>w/e, I'm sure theyll figure it out
09:27:19  <lpin>sure
09:27:58  <lpin>i try to stop my app to see if it is really a zombie
09:29:30  <lpin>there is a zombie in my case
09:29:32  <lpin>100% sure
09:29:58  <zeus>but are you still getting a good connection?
09:30:08  <zeus>and the zombie is just on the side your saying?
09:30:11  <lpin>what you mean?
09:30:21  <lpin>yeah
09:30:48  <zeus>I can't tell if you're trying to say its fucked for you too, or if that the zombie doesn't matter since there is still a good process that can be used
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09:31:19  <lpin>it's just a log issue in my case
09:31:32  <lpin>app works well, but the zombie spam errors in log
09:32:39  <lpin>yours doesn't connect?
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09:37:50  <lpin>just deployed again and redis works, without removing hiredis dep and without bundle
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09:42:57  <lpin>where do you live zeus?
09:43:03  <zeus>Vancouver, BC
09:43:06  <zeus>lpin: You?
09:43:09  <lpin>Italy
09:43:34  <zeus>Nice, work with a guy who just joined us from Milano.
09:43:47  <zeus>He told me about your crazy tax laws. Thats some fucked up shit.
09:44:08  <lpin>govern is insame here
09:44:18  <lpin>it has always been
09:44:26  <lpin>but now seriously
09:44:33  <zeus>which isnt? Lol
09:44:56  <lpin>we are the country with highest tax rate in the WORLD
09:45:01  <lpin>i mean wtf
09:45:28  <lpin>we can't have any grown like this
09:45:55  <lpin>growth*
09:46:02  <zeus>lol
09:46:26  <zeus>My favorite part is where they tax you at the average, even if you're below that for your profession.
09:46:57  <lpin>yeah true, crazy
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09:49:46  <lpin>http://www.ansa.it/web/notizie/rubriche/english/2012/07/19/Italy-has-highest-real-tax-burden-world-say-retailers_7207478.html
09:49:56  <lpin>morning yawn
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10:03:47  <rvagg1>is there nodejitsu staff in the house? your signup process isn't working, stuck on 'creating account' then times out
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10:05:17  <Peter___>hi anyone else having problems signing up for an account?
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10:09:10  <rvagg1>yes peter, just seconds before you joined I mentioned it
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10:10:36  <rvagg1>coderarity: you're nodejistu staff? we're just discussing problems signing up, signup form hangs on 'creating account' and eventually times out with a 'try again'
10:12:08  <Peter___>oh ok
10:12:11  <Peter___>thx
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10:49:38  <yawn>hai Leeol2
10:49:41  <yawn>* lpin
10:50:40  <lpin>hey
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11:20:57  <rvagg1>do we have nodejitsu staff alive yet?
11:21:57  <mmalecki>yes
11:22:08  <mmalecki>sup rvagg1?
11:22:44  <rvagg1>hey mmalecki, the nodejistu signup process is broken, "creating account" times out eventually with "Something went wrong on our side. Please try again."
11:23:12  <mmalecki>yeah, got an email already, looking into it
11:23:47  <rvagg1>cool, thanks
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11:34:06  <mmalecki>ok, I know what's up, working on a hotfix
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11:40:57  <mmalecki>rvagg1: please try now. email won't be sent, but your account will be set to 'active' right after creation
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11:51:00  <rvagg1>ok, created account, no password required to sign up though
11:52:06  <rvagg1>and password reset doesn't issue an email either.. so can't log in
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12:03:16  <mmalecki>rvagg1: ok, try password reset now, please
12:03:25  <mmalecki>we were having some problems with our email provider
12:03:51  <rvagg1>ah, ok
12:04:01  <rvagg1>postmark, I can highly recommend them
12:04:55  <rvagg1>no email still from password reset
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12:05:16  <rvagg1>I'm not in a rush btw
12:05:19  <nlognbob>August 1st?
12:05:29  <rvagg1>oh, got an email
12:09:23  <rvagg1>nice, I'm in, cheers mmalecki
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12:47:12  <yawn>NODE_ENV is set to production in nodejs right?
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12:47:17  <yawn>*nodejitsu
12:47:35  <yawn>yep :)
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13:21:13  <yawn>yo coderarity
13:21:23  <coderarity>yawn, sup
13:21:37  <yawn>setup oauth provider with nodejs
13:21:41  <yawn>works like a charm
13:21:41  <yawn>:)
13:21:45  <coderarity>:P
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14:03:08  <kohai>rvagg has 1 beer
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14:28:21  <coderarity>zeus, yo, your app is throwing this https://gist.github.com/94d07c9fa6cb12698c40
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18:26:21  <chimeracoder>I'm getting socket hang up errors… is jesusabdullah's comment on this bug (https://gist.github.com/2030472) still the right way to do this, or has this changed with the fix?
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18:27:00  <chimeracoder>I have a feeling it's a race condition error, since I sometimes get other errors elsewhere when I deploy the same build
18:27:45  <coderarity>chimeracoder, can you gist the complete output of the command you ran?
18:27:53  <chimeracoder>yeah sure
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18:29:07  <chimeracoder>https://gist.github.com/3156673
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18:34:21  <coderarity>chimeracoder, probably not your fault
18:34:26  <coderarity>chimeracoder, try redeploying
18:34:28  <chimeracoder>"yay" :-/
18:34:33  <chimeracoder>haha, okay
18:34:56  <chimeracoder>I've got other build errors as well, so basically I've been working through those and this one just pops up 50-66% of the time, but I guess as long as it works once
18:35:09  <chimeracoder>anyway, that's why I suspect there's a race condition somewhere
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18:36:56  <coderarity>chimeracoder, yeah, that happens sometimes, there's probably a bad server somewhere
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18:40:16  <zeus>Anyone tried running haibu on 0.8?
18:42:59  <chimeracoder>zeus: I think that's what i'm using now
18:43:10  <zeus>chimeracoder: Thanks :)
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18:43:25  <chimeracoder>zeus: well, it's not working yet, so take that for what it's worth ;-)
18:43:45  <chimeracoder>but I don't think haibu + .8 is the problem
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18:45:34  <zeus>chimeracoder: Have you played around with haibu's logging plugin?
18:46:18  <chimeracoder>zeus: No, I'm actually brand new to node.js (and nodejitsu); this is the first time I'm deploying anything
18:46:44  <zeus>chimeracoder: Nice, good luck :)
18:46:49  * chimeracoderis just trying to learn a new stack
18:46:50  <chimeracoder>thanks :-)
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19:07:11  <coderarity>chimeracoder, i wouldn't really call node.js a stack, it's kinda just a thing?
19:07:20  <coderarity>chimeracoder, flatiron is more of a stack
19:07:50  <chimeracoder>sure, but learning flatiron requires learning node.js ;-)
19:08:05  <chimeracoder>or javascript to begin with, for that matter, which I almost never use in my regular work
19:08:14  <coderarity>it's mostly javascript and a few other functions
19:08:21  <coderarity>javascript + io
19:08:43  <coderarity>it's not even necessarily an http thing
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19:10:44  <chimeracoder>haha, true
19:14:25  <russfrank>facebook hackathon!
19:15:17  <AvianFlu>YEAH! Everybody go try to hack facebook, as fast as you can! GO!
19:15:23  <AvianFlu>�wait, what are we talking about?
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19:21:37  <russfrank>haha
19:21:45  <russfrank>i'm at facebook's offices in nyc for a hackathon thing.
19:21:50  <russfrank>its totally exciting.
19:22:32  <coderarity>russfrank, is it super cool there?
19:22:42  <coderarity>do they have a slide?
19:24:51  <yawnt>yoyo
19:24:51  <yawnt>:D
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19:28:51  <coderarity>i'm going to put a slide in my room just so i can say i have a slide where i work
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19:31:41  <yawnt>lol
19:31:48  <yawnt>i have flags in my office
19:31:52  <yawnt>where office == bedroom
19:33:58  <coderarity>my room is mostly just a huge mess
19:34:22  <coderarity>i need less stuff :\
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19:34:30  <zeus>So I have Haibu up and running, how do I fetch my app's logs that are deployed within Haibu?
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19:37:17  <russfrank>coderarity: its super cool.
19:37:23  <russfrank>theres tons of food and shit
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19:46:44  <zeus>coderarity: Have any experience with Haibu? Is there any way to get access to my app's logs? There seems to be a logging plug-in option, but not sure what it does or connect to i
19:46:47  <zeus>it*
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19:49:49  <zeus>Also, how does one keep a Haibu instance running? Can I use forever to keep my Haibu server up?
19:50:00  <coderarity>zeus, yes
19:53:48  <coderarity>zeus, just use the logger plugin, you should see stuff in the console, right?
19:54:04  <zeus>Yes, but not my own apps logs. I just see Haibus logs
19:54:25  <zeus>and habi is lauched with --logger enabled by default it seems?
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19:57:49  <coderarity>not sure?
19:57:59  <coderarity>it says it, but i haven't found it in the code yet
19:58:23  <zeus>Yeah, actually I couldn't find it within the plugins folder either, So i wonder if thats just a stub that's yet to be implemented
20:00:54  <coderarity>it was there at one point? i'm not sure what happened to it
20:01:05  <coderarity>i mean the documentation is still there for it
20:04:58  <zeus>Im guessing it uses forever to spawn my processes, so I just need to figure out where its saving those log files
20:05:10  <zeus>then I can just set up a quick streaming server so I can access them from anywhere
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20:09:12  <coderarity>zeus, could try `forever list`
20:09:35  <zeus>That hits my local forever
20:09:54  <coderarity>zeus, i meant, on the server where you are running haibu
20:10:08  <zeus>Yeah, I mean that as well
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20:11:01  <zeus>haibu doesn't use the regular forever, it uses the forever-monitor, which I guess is the same thing, but without the bin
20:11:08  <zeus>and all programmatic, instead of command line
20:11:15  <zeus>but I think I may be onto something
20:18:23  <zeus>coderarity: Who would be the best person to ask about this?
20:18:42  <coderarity>zeus, make an issue on haibu
20:18:51  <zeus>k sounds good
20:18:55  <zeus>thanks once again
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20:54:31  <zeus>coderarity: Finally figured it out. Haibu uses forever-monitor, and it was passing silent: true as a start-up option for its child processes. But then it also emits those stdout and stderr events whenever it recieves them. However, currently it seems that nothing is set-up to listen to those events or do anything about them. I am guessing this is where the missing plugin comes in. A quick workaround for me was to switch silent t
20:54:31  <zeus>o false, but that wouldn't be reccomended if you have more than one app running
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20:58:13  <coderarity>zeus, i bet that plugin is somewhere back in time in git
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20:58:36  <zeus>coderarity: But it must have been removed for a reason?
20:58:58  <coderarity>zeus, maybe? that's why a github issue is a good idea :D
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20:59:58  <coderarity>zeus, hasn't been in there for a few months, maybe search through closed github issues to see if someone has asked before
21:00:48  <zeus>https://github.com/nodejitsu/haibu/issues/119
21:00:50  <zeus>yup :p
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21:02:43  <zeus>coderarity: Is that authToken documentation in the works? Or is there something that replaced that? https://github.com/nodejitsu/haibu/issues/105
21:03:33  <coderarity>auth
21:03:40  <coderarity>authToken should still be there
21:03:47  <coderarity>i don't think anything has replaced that yet
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21:03:53  <coderarity>although it may in the future
21:04:14  <zeus>do I pass in the authToken on haibu startup or something? (looking through the source now)
21:04:33  <coderarity>i don't remember
21:05:55  <zeus>well there is a useraccounts plugin, what is that for then?
21:06:31  <zeus>nvm, it just seems to use unix user accounts to seperate permissions of the different apps and all
21:06:35  <coderarity>zeus, it seems it's the future now
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21:07:09  <coderarity>zeus, hmm, man you're confusing me
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21:07:22  <coderarity>:P
21:07:25  <zeus>coderarity: Lol, its haibu not me!
21:08:07  <zeus>I see the auth-token code still in there, So i'll just use that
21:08:28  <coderarity>sure
21:08:37  <zeus>now I just need to figoure out how to insert my authToken into haibu.config
21:09:23  <Nexxy>gently
21:09:45  <zeus>I like to just ram it in instead
21:09:48  <zeus>force push that shit
21:09:57  * coderaritygiggles
21:10:20  <Nexxy>FORCE PUSH?! WHAT IS THIS SOME SORT OF STARWARS FANFIC?!
21:10:21  <zeus>Found a auth.json.example file lying around in your history
21:10:45  <coderarity>use the `--force` luke
21:10:50  <zeus>lol
21:11:04  <yawnt>im out
21:11:06  <yawnt>bye
21:11:10  <zeus>cya
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21:42:32  <zeus>coderarity: There is no haibu-client CLI is there? (just making sure I'm not blind before I go and write my own)
21:42:43  <coderarity>zeus, no
21:43:24  <zeus>Thanks
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21:47:52  <coderarity>zeus, some day jitsu will be compatible with haibu
21:48:09  <zeus>that would be seks
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21:48:44  <zeus>haibu's client API is so nice and easy, not really needed for the most basic tasks.
21:49:47  <zeus>ssh -n user@host.com 'tail -f -n 200 /root/haibu-server/out.log'
21:50:00  <zeus>is my current tail logging solutions :)
21:52:26  <coderarity>you could `watch 'tail -n 40 /root/haibu-server/out.log'` for no reason
21:52:51  <coderarity>i'm kinda annoyed that `dmesg | tail -f` didn't work
21:53:09  <zeus>lol
21:53:13  <zeus>watch the -f tail. I like it :p
21:53:29  <zeus>too bad os x doesn't have watch (natively at least)
21:53:33  <coderarity>that might do really weird stuff lol
21:54:33  <coderarity>`brew install watch` worked
21:55:22  <zeus>gotta love brew
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22:04:25  <arieljake>hello?
22:04:33  <coderarity>hi
22:04:33  <zeus>Knock knock
22:04:37  <arieljake>howdy
22:04:43  <coderarity>greetings
22:04:48  <arieljake>deploying my first node.js app on nodejitsu
22:04:50  <zeus>salutations!
22:05:02  <arieljake>ive deployed but not getting anything in the browser
22:05:12  <arieljake>how do i access logs?
22:05:21  <arieljake>status is reported as unknown
22:05:24  <zeus>jitsu logs
22:05:36  <coderarity>status is reported as unknown?
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22:05:51  <jesusabdullah>please clarify, arieljake
22:06:03  <arieljake>state == unknown
22:06:08  <arieljake>warn: No logs for DocVisit in specified timespan
22:06:25  <arieljake>data: name state subdomain running snapshot data: DocVisit unknown earphone ---
22:06:38  <coderarity>arieljake, can you run `jitsu deploy` and gist the output?
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22:15:41  <st_luke>does anyone have an android phone?
22:16:33  <tmpvar>yeah
22:17:40  <tmpvar>st_luke, ^^
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22:25:20  <arieljake>sorry for the delay
22:25:21  <arieljake>https://gist.github.com/3157400
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22:36:12  <arieljake>@coderarity, you have a sec to check out the gist?
22:39:20  <arieljake>anyone?
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22:44:46  <arieljake>hey i dont mean to be a jerk, but im at a hackathon and need to get our nodejitsu instance running
22:44:52  <arieljake>anyone who could help that would be great
22:45:30  <AvianFlu>arieljake, that gist looks like it just hasn't finished
22:45:37  <AvianFlu>is it hung like that?
22:45:45  <AvianFlu>how big is your app directory?
22:46:43  <arieljake>yeah
22:46:46  <arieljake>let me check
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22:47:13  <AvianFlu>does it always hang? how many tries has it done this?
22:47:14  <arieljake>oh
22:47:15  <arieljake>i know why
22:47:20  <arieljake>i am uploading node_modules
22:47:31  <arieljake>or does the CLI know to ignore that
22:47:38  <arieljake>its 240MB
22:47:40  <AvianFlu>it won't upload node_modules unless you're using bundleDependencies
22:47:48  <AvianFlu>okay, why's it so big?
22:47:52  <AvianFlu>that's a very large snapshot
22:48:03  <AvianFlu>and would definitely take several minutes to transfer
22:48:07  <arieljake>ok
22:48:15  <AvianFlu>make sure there aren't like, your .psd's or something
22:48:18  <arieljake>ok i deleted stuff
22:48:20  <AvianFlu>make sure you actually need all the data
22:48:25  <arieljake>now its 2-3 mb
22:48:30  <AvianFlu>that should deploy quickly
22:48:33  <arieljake>trying...
22:48:50  <AvianFlu>fairly quickly, at least
22:49:06  <arieljake>is there a list of supported node versions ?
22:49:13  <arieljake>now i get:
22:49:14  <arieljake>Error spawning drone: no matching engine found
22:50:33  <AvianFlu>gist your package.json?
22:50:57  <AvianFlu>we've got 0.4.12 and either 0.6.19 or .20 available right now
22:51:14  <AvianFlu>0.8 will be available sometime in the next week
22:51:24  <arieljake>https://gist.github.com/3157481
22:51:42  <AvianFlu>yeah, just change that to 0.6.x, if you're not using any 0.8-specific features
22:51:48  <AvianFlu>your engines field I mean
22:52:13  <arieljake>so you only support 0.6?
22:53:42  <coderarity>arieljake, yes
22:54:02  <arieljake>ok, thx
22:54:51  <arieljake>it works! thank you very much
22:55:04  <arieljake>if this weekend goes well, i will be switching form heroku to nodejitsu
22:55:08  <arieljake>easier deploy mechanism
22:55:10  <arieljake>thanks
22:55:34  <coderarity>:P
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23:30:31  <Nodejitsu-Github>[node-http-proxy] indexzero created 0.8.2 (+1 new commit): http://git.io/OTmv_A
23:30:31  <Nodejitsu-Github>[node-http-proxy/0.8.2] [refactor] Rewrite tests to use saner vows idioms. Update tests to use latest socket.io - indexzero
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23:31:22  <nlognbob>my logs are 9 hours behind!
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23:35:49  <jesusabdullah>that sucks!
23:36:23  <jesusabdullah>My understanding is that it's a known issue due to loggly having changed their plans on us
23:36:31  <jesusabdullah>that we're working with them to fix
23:37:01  <jesusabdullah>:(
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23:40:02  <nlognbob>give them a kick for me!
23:41:14  <jesusabdullah>oh we shall
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