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00:08:07  <ljharb>shush: manually, or “don’t install them in the first place”
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00:09:40  <shush>ljharb: Joe installs X, Joe removes X from package.json. Joe wants to be sure X was removed and all the unneeded deps of X from node_modules
00:10:31  <ljharb>shush: oh. Npm does that for you on install.
00:10:36  <shush>Why did Joe remove X from package.json manually? He did. Joe uses git, git removed it from package.json because Joe was checking out an older commit that didn't have the package in package.json.
00:10:41  <ljharb>shush: that’s `npm prune`
00:11:11  <shush>ljharb: It's weird cause I did npm prune and it kept the package. Idk what I did wrong. Anyway, I solved it with rm -rf node_modules && npm i
00:11:14  <ljharb>but you can just npm install
00:11:20  <ljharb>what version of npm
00:11:25  <ljharb>also do you have a lockfile?
00:11:32  <shush>6.4.1
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00:18:08  <patientplatypus>you still there?
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00:27:22  <njund>please help me out with this syntax:
00:27:37  <njund>const someName = props => (...);
00:27:49  <njund>whats the use of that arrow?
00:28:24  <njund>is that like passing values to the context of those ()'s?
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00:31:05  <pdub>njund: look up 'arrow function' and 'ES6 changes', it's a thing that was created as part of ES6 release of ECMAscript (javascript)
00:31:33  <pdub>njund: it's passing "props" variable into the function-- and note that this is defining the function
00:31:59  <pdub>njund: so, 'props' becomes an parameter of the function, and it's assumed that since it has the name props, you'll pass in props as the argument when you use it
00:32:20  <njund>Understood, thank you
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00:38:16  <Wafficus>Hello there, question regarding game dev with Node.js, is it feasible to use over C# with Unity?
00:38:21  <Wafficus>debating a stardew valley type game
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00:41:16  <rom1504>Wafficus: what do you mean "over" ?
00:41:31  <rom1504>like node.js as backend server, and unity as a frontend ?
00:41:52  <rom1504>if so, yes sure why not
00:42:12  <rom1504>seems like a weird choice (why not c# backend), but it would work fine
00:42:16  <DeltaHeavy>rom1504 In place of Ibelieve
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00:42:29  <rom1504>as long as you have both c# and node.js devs
00:42:39  <rom1504>DeltaHeavy: that doesn't make sense
00:42:42  <DeltaHeavy>Somebody in ##javascript was pushing NodeJS instead of C# / Unity
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00:42:46  <DeltaHeavy>That's what I said
00:42:57  <DeltaHeavy>"But it's faster than Ruby and Python"
00:43:06  <rom1504>unity is a tool to make 3D programs
00:43:44  <rom1504>I guess you could hack things to plug node to GUI things but really it could be a huge hack
00:43:46  <Wafficus>yeah I'm only interested in 2D games to be quite honest
00:43:58  <rom1504>still doesn't make sense
00:44:02  <Wafficus>gotcha
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00:44:07  <Wafficus>so stick with C# and Unity it is
00:44:08  <rom1504>Wafficus: do you mean javascript web games ?
00:44:18  <rom1504>this makes sense
00:44:23  <Wafficus>not really, more like on Steam and Nintendo E Shop kind of games
00:44:24  <rom1504>but that's javascript, not node
00:44:38  <rom1504>ok then no
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00:45:17  <rom1504>https://electronjs.org/
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00:45:33  <rom1504>still not nodejs but that's the closest I can think of
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00:54:56  <DeltaHeavy>rom1504 Why that for steam games?
00:56:20  <rom1504>it can be used to make javascript games bundled in an exe application
00:56:39  <rom1504>that's the closest using javascript I can think of to a unity game
00:56:51  <rom1504>now is that a good idea ? prob not
00:57:21  <rom1504>if the objective is performance, use c++
01:02:35  <DeltaHeavy>rom1504 Steam games aren't typically JS
01:02:38  <ThePendulum>say you have a variable 'pets', and then another that are just their names, would you use petNames or petsNames?
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01:03:24  <shinzo>I would be surprised if there isn't already something out there for writing html/js games that can be put on steam, js is like cancer
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01:04:05  <ThePendulum>born in july?
01:04:28  <ThePendulum>In December 1995, soon after releasing JavaScript for browsers, Netscape introduced an implementation of the language for server-side scripting with Netscape Enterprise Server
01:04:31  <ThePendulum>TIL
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01:14:27  <cgi>https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/V7Xw68gxCN/ -- can anyone help me with this error please?
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01:24:20  <ljharb>cgi: i already answered you in ##jacascript. Please don’t cross-post.
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01:24:35  <ljharb>cgi: you need Babel. With jest, you also need Babel-jest.
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01:29:55  <cgi>ljharb, I'm new to this
01:30:15  <cgi>ljharb, npm install --save-dev @babel-jest ?
01:30:55  <cgi>or npm install --dev babel-jest @babel/core
01:31:33  <ljharb>@babel/cli and babel-jest
01:31:38  <ljharb>you’ll also need a .babelrc
01:32:02  <cgi>ljharb, not babel.config.js?
01:32:10  <ljharb>sure, either one.
01:33:43  <cgi>ljharb, what version of js am i writing because of which I need babel?
01:34:30  <ljharb>cgi: it’s not really about versions, it’s just that import/export is ES Modules, and node doesn’t have that support yet.
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01:34:49  <blasen>how to install the saved dev dependencies? --install-dev?
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01:34:52  <ljharb>cgi: but in general you should use babel, precisely so you don’t have to care about what’s supported
01:35:13  <ljharb>earendel: --save-dev
01:35:15  <cgi>ljharb, installed babel-jest, added config - still errors
01:35:45  <ljharb>cgi: at that point then you’ll need to file an issue with jest
01:35:46  <blasen>ljharb: but how to install them when they are saved?
01:35:52  <ljharb>`npm install`
01:36:15  <cgi>now it can't find the functions
01:37:16  <cgi>ljharb, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GYHwGMK7pG/ - I think I am doing some silly mistake?
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01:42:52  <cgi>when one uses a => a+b -- what version of js supports this? ./require()?
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01:49:17  <ljharb>that’s in ES6/ES2015. Supported in node 4+
01:50:17  <cgi>ljharb, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GYHwGMK7pG/ - any ideas on this?
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01:52:29  <cgi>ljharb, that "export" line is causing trouble
01:52:59  <ljharb>cgi: yes for the fifth time. You *can not use that syntax* unless you’re using Babel.
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01:54:29  <cgi>ljharb, I tried to use babel. Let me show the config file
01:55:25  <cgi>ljharb, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/g2BsQcWyyM/ - is there anything else I have to do besides this and npm install --save-dev babel-jest @babel/core @babel/preset-env
01:56:04  <ljharb>nope, there shouldn’t be. But jest has a broken cache system. You might need `jest --clearCache`
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01:57:16  <cgi>ljharb, clearcache gives the same error - can't find those functions
01:57:53  <cgi>ljharb, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XHtJBJdRqW/ - my package.json
01:58:39  <ljharb>cgi: then jest has a bug, and you’ll have to file an issue on its github repo.
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01:59:16  <cgi>Filing now, thanks
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02:50:08  <systemfault>Anyone knows what is the "go to" implementation for a Single Sign-On? (SSO?)
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08:10:19  <blasen>js doesn't have object destructors right? how would you organize an 'expired' object to get garbage collected? im not sure if deleting it from an array creating sparse arrays is a good solution. mutating the array while iterating it? or maybe using maps? weakmaps?
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08:12:52  <blasen>with maps i could give them an id and use that id as map key. and then iterate over the map entries. whatya think
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08:19:27  <blasen>could be an option..hm.
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08:19:51  <blasen>i could delete anything that is marked as expired. right? sounds good.
08:20:08  <blasen>i think i may try this. thx.
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09:55:41  <IniGit>hi does somebody know how to start the Debugger for Chrome extension via `npm run` or `exec()`? Thank you
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09:59:23  <yakiza>Guys i am passing to my node server a javascript object that has a value of div1.outerHTML and on that html escape charactes have been added such as \n \ etc and i cannot render that div back is there a way to avoid that from happening
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10:05:42  <IniGit>soemobody :( ?
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10:20:36  <yakiza>IniGit: its kinda early
10:20:39  <yakiza> w:P
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10:49:41  <Lucifer>Hi is it possible to require() and es6 export?
10:49:58  <Lucifer>I have a dynamic path so I can't use the es6 import
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10:50:17  <Lucifer>Hi is it possible to require() an* es6 export?
10:50:21  <abbiya>given a string, can we find its is javascript ?
10:50:53  <pandem>what
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11:15:07  <grr12314>you can pass it to new Function which will at least check its syntax
11:15:28  <grr12314>it will work if its not using top-level js features like import/export
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12:44:37  <prometh>so, finland's govt resigned in light of debt caused by free education & health care
12:44:55  <prometh>socialist, open source education failed, then?
12:45:24  <Sharaal>abbiya: you can have a look at syntax highlighting tools, some of them have auto detection of the language. but from my experience, it doesn't work that well. What's your use case?
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12:46:12  <abbiya>i was parsing html content to just get the text node's content
12:46:27  <abbiya>was getting script content too, but now solved.
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12:46:32  <pandem>prometh: what
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12:46:55  <prometh>pandem: there's nothing to elaborate
12:47:07  <pandem>your sentence doesnt make a lot of sense
12:47:20  <pandem>nor is it related to node js
12:47:22  <prometh>finland's government collapsed due to socialist debt
12:47:25  <prometh>node.js is open source
12:47:38  <prometh>finland had free education, which ties into software engineering
12:47:53  <prometh>... which is largely built on OSS
12:48:46  <cdunklau>-> socialism -> national socialism -> hitler
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12:48:57  <cdunklau>godwin, discussion over
12:48:58  <pandem>-> trump
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12:49:16  <prometh>trump is a lighter shade of grey when compared to hitler
12:49:29  <cdunklau>ugh can it already
12:49:39  <prometh>cdunklau: i wasn't talkign about national socialism anyway
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12:49:57  <prometh>i was talking about free education and that its "capital of the world" failed miserably, and it sucks
12:50:29  <cdunklau>you made wild links between disparate subjects to justify bringing up irrelevant political bullshit in a tech channel
12:51:06  <prometh>i don't see them as disparate
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12:51:21  <cdunklau>so i just carried that discussion to it's "logical" conclusion by invoking godwin's law
12:51:27  <cdunklau>so yeah, shut up already
12:51:29  <prometh>free education brings in new developers without personal debt
12:51:35  <prometh>cdunklau: watch your mouth
12:51:45  <cdunklau>no thanks
12:51:58  <prometh>ljharb joepie91, perm ban please
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12:52:14  <prometh>;)
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12:57:36  <avu>what cdunklau said
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12:58:41  <prometh>what he said was mentally handicapped
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12:59:39  <avu>literally hitler
12:59:56  <prometh>hitler's gonna kill us all, from the grave
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13:00:43  <prometh>so.. in smart people news, finland's free education backfired
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13:05:11  <pandem>smart people news
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13:13:42  <prometh>yep, as opposed to "everything is nazi"
13:13:58  <prometh>OSS is nazi.
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13:14:51  <prometh>"is"
13:15:12  <prometh>back to smart people news
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13:31:30  <grr12314>how did it backfire prometh?
13:32:57  <prometh>https://www.ft.com/content/6caf99f4-4179-11e9-b896-fe36ec32aece
13:33:07  <prometh>"social care systems" includes education
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13:33:51  <grr12314>well thats paywalled
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13:34:21  <pandem>and the government resigning has nothing to do with education
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13:38:07  <prometh>the country has been losing money for years due to their free stuff
13:38:18  <prometh>the reforms failed to go through, so the government resigned
13:39:15  <prometh>as software continues to replace jobs, free education and universal basic income seem less possible
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13:40:21  <prometh>perhaps this url works: http://fortune.com/2019/03/08/finland-government-resigns-health-care/
13:40:27  <blasen>losing money due to free stuff
13:40:34  <prometh>due
13:40:36  <prometh>d
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13:42:36  <blasen>and..who got the money?
13:43:54  <prometh>if they're in debt, then it'd likely be central banks
13:44:19  <blasen>the free stuff hasn't been produced by somebody who earned it?
13:44:37  <prometh>what does earn have to do wtih this?
13:45:01  <blasen>if the country pays for something, something earned it.
13:45:25  <prometh>no one earns health care in such a society
13:45:29  <blasen>maybe that's beyond your comprehensive skills.
13:45:59  <pandem>i think reading is beyond his skills
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13:46:11  <prometh>enlighten me
13:46:59  <avu>the "free" in "free healthcare" or "free education" is pure framing bs
13:47:21  <avu>there's nothing free about it, it's just a different model of how it's payed for
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13:47:47  <prometh>it's in free in that it doesn't create massive individual debt
13:47:55  <blasen>jesus. the country is not losing money. they payed for some services. which means somebody earns it.
13:48:17  <pandem>finland is taking debt, but on the other hand so are most other countries too
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13:48:18  <prometh>okay, let's pay for candy... the candy makers will earn it
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13:49:19  <blasen>it was a fair trial to enlighten you. and it was free.
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13:49:22  <pandem>#finnishpolitics
13:49:37  <prometh>free education is related to free software
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13:49:58  <prometh>software replacing human jobs is related to income
13:50:24  <blasen>i will help your argumentation: the problem is it was sweden!
13:50:38  <prometh>but this is too basic to comprehend for you
13:50:57  <pandem>what is not related to node js with that logic?
13:51:10  <prometh>nodejs is software
13:51:37  <pandem>software is related to nasa
13:51:41  <pandem>nasa is related to mars
13:51:48  <pandem>what do you think about colonizing mars
13:51:51  <prometh>software will take us to mars
13:52:10  <prometh>software will replace jobs.. people need money
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13:52:37  <prometh>i can see that you're not interested in the sociological affects of software
13:52:50  <prometh>go back to your antisocial hole.
13:52:57  <blasen>ok.
13:53:03  <pandem>i'm not convinced about your analytics of finnish politics
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13:54:17  <prometh>i'm not a politician, nor am i interested much in politics... but i am interested in the current state of the solution to a future problem, that will be caused by software
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13:55:11  <blasen>i found friedmans approach even better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNffhKX4KC8 enjoy.
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13:55:31  <blasen>he should be on your whitelist.
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13:56:29  <prometh>okay, i'll watch it later
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15:31:59  <cgi>https://www.npmjs.com/package/lru-cache - anyone can tell me why the example on this page does not work ? (n.close function not defined is the error I am getting)
15:33:18  <cgi>This assert fails: assert.equal(cache.get(someObject), 'a value')
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15:36:11  <danneu>isn't close() a method that must exist on the key you set?
15:36:13  <danneu>er, value
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15:37:02  <danneu>so i'm not sure how the readme example could work according to its docs
15:37:28  <cgi>danneu, the example has a problem?
15:38:05  <danneu>well, it might be trying to show you example options rather than a full working example
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15:38:53  <cgi>danneu, n is a string
15:39:04  <cgi>perhaps it needs to be deleted in some way instead of being closed?
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15:39:16  <danneu>String#close doesn't exist
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15:39:29  <danneu>think it'd giving you an example of it being an fd or something
15:39:33  <cgi>danneu, what is the right way to fix that?
15:39:45  <danneu>well, a string doesn't need to have a disposal.
15:39:48  <danneu>it just gets GC'd
15:40:24  <danneu>or maybe you wanted the string to get removed from some other Map upon removal, something like that
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15:40:37  <danneu>but according to the docs the example looks nonsensical on string value
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15:44:09  <cgi>danneu, how does the syntax work on the first line of the example?
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15:44:37  <danneu>the prefix commas?
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15:44:46  <cgi>https://www.npmjs.com/package/lru-cache - var LRRU = ..., options = { ...
15:44:48  <cgi>yes
15:45:03  <danneu>parser skips whitespace til next comma
15:45:23  <danneu>used to be a common way to write js early in node lifespan but quickly fell out of favor
15:45:33  <cgi>and require(xyz), ... is fed to require?
15:46:15  <danneu>oh, `var x = 1, y = 2` is same as `var x = 1' var y = 2`
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15:46:53  <cgi>so the ", " is really optional in that example?
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15:47:16  <danneu>yeah, it's not a popular way to create a bunch of variables anymore
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15:47:50  <danneu>it's preferred to declare on each line
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15:48:28  <grr12314>at least when initializing them too
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15:48:33  <cgi> npm install lru-cache --save
15:48:33  <cgi> ==> why is save used on that page?
15:48:54  <grr12314>because the example is old
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15:50:36  <cgi>so the require() part is using global variables like options - to populate and use functions?
15:51:36  <danneu>it's not global, it's just top-level scope. but yeah
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15:52:55  <cgi>I am using jest - and its complaining that options is not defined
15:53:04  <cgi>how does one fix this scope issue?
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15:53:48  <grr12314>define it? you probably copypasted something wrong
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15:54:02  <Natalie>Does anyone else debug nodejs using "Visual Studio 2017"? I'm trying to figure out a way to step past all the the require() code.
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15:55:15  <cgi>grr12314, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KRHcgkPpmW/ - gives me options undefined in jest test run
15:55:31  <kerrang>trying to clear something up, given i'm writing an api client using functions and the module pattern (i'm exposing functions per module rather than in a class or something) then any shared state between my endpoints must be in another module that change it's own state? I'm thinking like the baseUrl and API keys that are initially given by envvars
15:55:47  <grr12314>cgi as i said, you copy-pasted it wrong
15:55:52  <grr12314>you are missing the ,
15:56:20  <danneu>cgi: as i said above, `var x=1, y=2` is same as `var x=1; var y=2`.
15:56:23  <ljharb>cgi: using --save is still fine, to be explicit
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15:56:42  <ljharb>and yes, use one var/const/let per variable.
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15:57:05  <cgi>grr12314, math.js runs in node without causing any issues - I put the commas - same error
15:57:09  <cgi>let me paste the updated code
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15:57:53  <danneu>not sure why it'd be undefined tho
15:58:04  <cgi>https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bXMGYxvsWQ/
15:58:23  <cgi>node math.js -> print's three strings - no asserts fail
15:58:26  <grr12314>cgi you are STILL missing comma
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15:58:45  <grr12314>you added some semicolons that are pointless and equally wrong to the previous version
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15:59:08  <cgi>grr12314, which line needs a ","? Thanks
15:59:09  <danneu>what i meant to show was that you want to declare on each line, not the semis part
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15:59:43  <grr12314>cgi look at https://www.npmjs.com/package/lru-cache where you copy-pasted it from
16:00:27  <grr12314>notice the leading commas that make all declarations a single var statement
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16:01:04  <cgi>grr12314, oh, so i need to do var for every line - just did - it worked thanks.
16:01:08  <grr12314>and after understanding this (for science) fix yours to be separate var statements instead
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16:01:46  <cgi>grr12314, thanks for the help. I started learning JS yesterday. Have a ton to learn.
16:02:31  <grr12314>as to why node didnt complain about undefined vars - it doesnt run in strict mode by default
16:02:54  <grr12314>add "use strict"; to the first line to see it in strict mode
16:03:12  <cgi>perfect!
16:04:23  <grr12314>or --use_strict commandline arg
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16:04:46  <cgi>worked, thanks
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16:04:51  <cgi>grr12314, what linter can i use?
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16:06:13  <grr12314>eslint
16:06:25  <cgi>prettier? :)
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16:20:46  <danneu>prettier fixes various formatting level issues, but eslint can analyze more
16:20:56  <danneu>you can use them both
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16:21:25  <danneu>or, rather, you can use prettier to enforce consistent formatting, and eslint for linting
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16:32:42  <cgi>danneu, thanks!
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16:47:04  <ljharb>cgi: eslint can also be used for consistent formatting. Eslint is a requirement, prettier is optional.
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18:28:34  <patientplatypus>i have an so question: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/55169671/mongoose-model-is-not-saving-not-throwing-error
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19:10:13  <Xano>Hello :) I'm building a small Python app that renders HTML pages and needs to embed some JS, so I'm trying to set up Webpack to produce a compiled JS file I can embed. I'm having problems invoking Webpack correctly, ranging from ENOENT errors when using package.json's "scripts", to my Webpack config not being able to import other packages when calling ./node_modules/.bin/webpack (I presume because the node env does not know about
19:10:13  <Xano>./node_modules).
19:11:08  <Xano>I have a suspicion this is all because I trigger Webpack from within Python and that means it's run in a different environment from my own terminal. I'm looking for any clues, like search keywords, or recommended documentation I can use to find out how to make this work :)
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19:12:48  <GreenJello>Xano, you should probably run webpack separately from your python code
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19:13:25  <Xano>GreenJello, The current subprocess I start is pretty separate, but I presume you mean something else?
19:14:34  <fas3r>How to manage a rollback when dealing with multiple async API calls within the same function ?
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19:15:20  <GreenJello>Xano, I mean not triggering it from python at all
19:15:54  <Xano>GreenJello, So the Python app is the main app generating a static site. The Webpack bit is not something I can easily invoke from outside Python
19:16:08  <GreenJello>Xano, oh, it's a static site generator?
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19:17:09  <GreenJello>then that's fine, you just need to make sure `npm install` has been run in the directory with your package.json, and set the CWD for the webpack process to that directory as well
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19:17:36  <Xano>So I expect my own terminal shell has all kinds of settings npm needs, but I don't know which ones.
19:18:09  <Xano>The Python code creates a new root dir, puts package.json there, sets CWD and invokes npm there
19:19:05  <GreenJello>are you running `npm install` before trying to execute scripts?
19:19:11  <Xano>Oh yeah that's all done
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19:19:18  <Xano>The deps are certainly there
19:19:48  <Xano>Oh, hah. Of course now I've asked here, I try running my Python subprocess (invoking npm) in a shell and voila, npm inherits the required environment.
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19:20:10  <Xano>It's not ideal and doesn't answer my question, but I believe in this particular use case there are no risk.s
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19:21:02  <GreenJello>Xano, pretty much all that matters is PATH, and the CWD
19:21:55  <GreenJello>npm is designed to not depend on environmental things in normal use
19:22:47  <Xano>Could be that the subprocess doesn't have $PATH set. I should try and find out more about that, because cwd was definitely correct.
19:23:05  <Xano>I'll do that then, or continue using a shell (for now).
19:23:12  <Xano>GreenJello, Thanks!
19:23:16  <GreenJello>Xano, it's common to have things modify PATH in your .bashrc or similar
19:23:28  <GreenJello>which your python code won't execute
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19:24:15  <GreenJello>so it's usually different when running something directly from your shell vs some other services running your code
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19:30:03  <Xano>GreenJello, I may have made the totally unfounded assumption /usr/bin would be in any subprocess's $PATH
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19:37:32  <Xano>GreenJello, Thanks again. I appreciate the time you took to run me through this :)
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21:05:20  <patientplatypus>Error: Cannot find module 'fs/promises'
21:05:25  <patientplatypus>what is going on here?
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21:05:38  <patientplatypus>patientplatypus:ì/Documents/patientplatypus.com/forum/back:16:04:53$node --version
21:05:38  <patientplatypus>v10.12.0
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21:16:51  <Unplesantry>wut
21:17:04  <Unplesantry>jsut require all fs
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21:39:40  <ljharb>patientplatypus: don't cross-post; answered in ##javascript. require('fs').promises
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22:30:12  <Natalie>I'm using winston to log to json log files on my server. Right now I'm using json-log-viewer over ssh to view them, but it's not the best interface. Can someone recommend a good gui json log file viewer? I'm looking for either something I can run locally, and point to the ssh connection, or something I can host on the server and access via a web interface.
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22:41:09  <patientplatypus>I have an SO question: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/55173074/async-await-to-an-object-not-assigning
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22:52:40  <ljharb>patientplatypus: again, please do not cross-post. ask in *one channel*.
22:52:56  <patientplatypus>im going to make a bot to reply to this
22:53:41  <ljharb>patientplatypus: with what
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22:55:49  <ljharb>patientplatypus: let me put it another way: if you cross-post again, you won't be able to stay in the channel. your tone in the other channel doesn't give me any reason to be patient.
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23:05:57  <Boobie>You kicked and banned someone for "cross-posting?". Are you actually seriously mentally ill? I'm too afraid to even chat here because of "ljharb". Nobody is ever gonna chat again because of you
23:06:03  <Boobie>All you will do is abuse the users. I mean who even talks to the way you do and treats people that way? What the hell?
23:06:21  <Boobie>The channel is done
23:07:04  <Boobie>You ended the channel
23:09:22  <joepie91>Boobie: they were banned for being generally rude and abrasive, and this is your first and immediately last warning regarding the "mentally ill" remark
23:09:46  <joepie91>those kind of remarks are not welcome here
23:09:49  <Boobie>You're the other guy who ended the channel.
23:10:02  <Boobie>You're on a power trip, and abusing the users. You feel good to remove people
23:10:06  <Boobie>You enjoy it.
23:10:07  <Boobie>Channel over
23:10:42  <joepie91>Boobie: do you have a reason for being here other than complaining about moderation and general doomsaying?
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23:17:02  <satoriprints>is it possible to update all dependencies in package json to latst versions?
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23:17:52  <joepie91>Boobie: since you seem to be ignoring the question, I'll just cut right to the chase: if you have a *genuine* concern with the moderation policy or a particular, then take it up with an op; but if your complaint is "there is moderation at all", then just leave the channel because this is not the place for you... and if you continue spending your time in this channel issuing vague non-actionable doomsaying complaints, then that is going to result in
23:17:54  <joepie91>your removal from the channel
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23:21:31  <Boobie>joepie91, yes I have a reason to be here and I love node.js and I would love to chat about it and I'd participate in many positive conversations, and contribute, and be helpful
23:21:51  <joepie91>good :)
23:21:57  <Boobie>I absolutely love node. But I cannot chat here or get help, because you're going to abuse the users
23:22:07  <Boobie>I've been on IRC for a long time. Nearly 20 years. Since I was a young kid. I've seen a lot of stuff. You and joepie91 are 2 of most abusive people on freenode.
23:22:13  <Boobie>*you and ljharb
23:22:36  <Boobie>So there's nothing to lose if I'm banned. We can't even chat about node because of you
23:23:46  <Unplesantry>Boobie:
23:23:53  <joepie91>Boobie: this is your last warning to stop with the vague complaints and accusations. if you have a concrete issue, this is your chance to bring it up. otherwise, hold your peace.
23:24:02  <Unplesantry>let him stay
23:25:08  <Unplesantry>how do i use node-inspect
23:25:36  <joepie91>Unplesantry: node-inspect is more or less deprecated; you can run Node with one of the --inspect flags now, and connect Chromium dev tools
23:25:47  <Unplesantry>right
23:25:49  <Unplesantry>ok how?
23:26:01  <joepie91>I think it will tell you where to go after you run Node with --inspect
23:26:18  <Unplesantry>shit mine is dockerized
23:26:34  <Unplesantry>let me see in docker logs
23:26:34  <joepie91>it'll also show up on chrome://inspect
23:26:40  <joepie91>ah, no idea how to do that
23:27:21  <rbdr>@satoriprints npm update --save
23:28:05  <Unplesantry>oh so
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23:28:17  <Unplesantry>in dev i use node-dev
23:28:29  <Unplesantry>will that flag work here too?
23:29:04  <joepie91>I have no idea what that is
23:29:33  <Unplesantry>its just node but with refresh listener
23:29:48  <Unplesantry>ok see it
23:30:07  <Unplesantry>Debugger listening on ws://127.0.0.1:9229/b3306833-99c1-4c95-b958-4bf6ae3574e7
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23:30:18  <jaawerth>Unplesantry: you just need to bind the port when you run docker and you should be able to connect chrome devtools to it anyway - you might want to specify the port in your node command so it's predictable. something like `node --inspect="0.0.0.0:9229"` within the docker container, and then when you run docker just add `-p 9229:9229` for example
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23:32:04  <Unplesantry>so it doesnt keep changing?
23:32:34  <jaawerth>it'll only choose a different port if the goto port is already in use, IIRC
23:33:10  <jaawerth>it will change the path after the port but once you bind the port, you can just open chrome://inspect and copy teh URL in there. Though chrome tends to be good about detecting when one of those sockets is open so it might ahctually list it right there
23:33:47  <jaawerth>er, I guess the docker parlance is "publishing" the port, not binding
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23:34:27  <jaawerth>hell, I've run node --inspect on remote servers and opened a local chrome devtools on it by using ssh tunneling on the debugger port
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23:34:44  <jaawerth>mostly just to see if it would work the way I expeccted. it did!
23:35:06  <Unplesantry>ok im in chrome: inspect
23:35:13  <Unplesantry>what now
23:35:18  <Unplesantry>im in devices
23:35:29  <jaawerth>and you exposed the port when you ran docker?
23:35:39  <Unplesantry>k let me do that
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23:38:57  <Unplesantry>0.0.0.0:9229->9229/tcp, 0.0.0.0:8515->3000/tcp
23:39:21  <Unplesantry>but still nothing in devices
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23:40:08  <jaawerth>in the docker output does it still say node is running?
23:40:31  <Unplesantry>yes
23:40:44  <Unplesantry>my api is up
23:41:02  <Boobie>lizardking hijacked a bunch of DNS servers and they're redirecting name resolution from "npmserver" to their trojan npm server
23:41:40  <Boobie>Try doing some investigations on that name
23:41:54  <jaawerth>Unplesantry: hmm so I just tested it by running `docker run --rm -p 9229:9229 -it node:alpine node --inspect-brk=0.0.0.0 -e for (const v of [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]) console.log(v);` and opening chrome://inspect and it showed up automatically
23:42:03  <Unplesantry>so what am i looking for lol
23:42:04  <jaawerth>if it doesn't show in the list you can try entering the URL manually too
23:42:16  <jaawerth>node should have output a URL for you to connect to, which you can copy/paste
23:42:21  <jaawerth>for me it just showed up automatically though
23:42:30  <Unplesantry>showed up in chrome where
23:42:41  <Unplesantry>i think im failing at using chrome
23:42:49  <Unplesantry>not node itself
23:43:09  <jaawerth>like I said, in chrome://inspect - there's a "remote target" section at the bottom that will list any debugger hosts it sees
23:43:28  <jaawerth>if that doesn't work you can try copy/pasting the full inspect url node output for you
23:44:10  <Unplesantry>yeah the remote target section doesnt really have anything
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23:45:36  <jaawerth>it doesn't always auto-detect, which means either the port wasn't exposed right or (also possible) it just didn't autodetect it (it doesn't always) in which case you can try copy/pasting the full inspect URL node should have printed right into chrome's URL bar
23:45:41  <jaawerth>https://nodejs.org/en/docs/guides/debugging-getting-started/#chrome-devtools-55
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23:46:10  <Unplesantry>cant be reached
23:46:22  <Unplesantry>oh
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23:46:45  <jaawerth>that probably means something went wrong with docker publishing the port
23:47:03  <Unplesantry>ERR_DISALLOWED_URL_SCHEME
23:47:07  <Unplesantry>ws://
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23:54:15  <jaawerth>hmm yeah I am not sure how teh URL should be changed tbh - you might just try telling devtools itself to connect to localhost:9229 where it says "open dedicated devtools for node" - if you click that it lets you add host:port combos to watch
23:54:24  <jaawerth>but I would suggest also verifying that docker is actually exposing/listening on the port
23:54:52  <Unplesantry>it is
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23:56:38  <zumba_addict>folks, is there a command which will compare semver which one is higher? Let's say I want to compare 0.0.1.12 and 0.0.1.13. It should return 0.0.1.13 as the higher
23:56:54  <jaawerth>sorry then, I'm not sure why it wouldn't see it - I would try opening that "dedicated node devtools" link and see if you can add localhost:9229 to the list of ntework endpionts for it to try connecting to automatically (if it isn't already listed there)
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23:58:58  <darkSeid>zumba_addict that just sounds like a code kata
23:59:36  <zumba_addict>kinda
23:59:47  <zumba_addict>i'm trying to help one of our developers