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01:27:32  <indutny>jbergstroem: heya
01:27:40  <indutny>jbergstroem: we have quite old OS X servers, right?
01:27:52  <indutny>jbergstroem: I'm collecting data on xcode+lldb versions
01:27:52  <indutny>https://gist.github.com/indutny/b38afd4a2f9cd6277d20a6a1dda84a3e
01:28:01  <indutny>jbergstroem: if you'll have a moment - may I ask you to help me with it?
01:28:25  <indutny>I **suppose** apple locks lldb per major Xcode version
01:28:38  <indutny>but would be great if we could check 8.0 and 7.0
01:28:42  <indutny>or 7.1
01:28:49  <indutny>and corresponding lldb version
02:24:30  <jbergstroem>indutny: 10.10
02:24:37  <indutny>cool
02:24:43  <indutny>what xcode version does it have?
02:24:48  <jbergstroem>indutny: at the moment we have very little control over the toolchain :(
02:24:55  <indutny>heh
02:25:08  <jbergstroem>indutny: we will shortly move into a _much_ better situation
02:25:14  <jbergstroem>indutny: ~1m
02:25:16  <indutny>who sponsors it?
02:25:18  <indutny>:)
02:25:18  <indutny>:D
02:25:22  <jbergstroem>old: voxer
02:25:27  <jbergstroem>new: tba
02:26:09  <jbergstroem>not really secretive, more like a work in progress
02:26:21  <indutny>ok
02:26:23  <indutny>great
02:26:31  <indutny>good news!
02:26:39  <jbergstroem>indeed :)
02:27:29  <jbergstroem>it likely also means we get coverage from 10.9 and up
02:29:21  <indutny>hehe
02:29:24  <indutny>fantastic
02:29:35  <indutny>jbergstroem: so what's xcode version we have right?
02:29:36  <indutny>:)
02:33:48  <jbergstroem>indutny: let me check; i have limited access to macos stuff
02:33:55  <indutny>jbergstroem: thank you!
02:34:06  <jbergstroem>(attempt to check)
02:35:28  <jbergstroem>rod probably gave me access somehow somewhere but i didn't automate it/add it to my credentials ;[
02:36:13  <indutny>aaah
02:36:20  <indutny>jbergstroem: don't worry to much about it then
02:36:23  <indutny>thank you for help
02:36:30  <indutny>I don't want you to spend hours on this thing
02:36:35  <indutny>and waste your time
02:36:38  <indutny>:)
02:37:12  <jbergstroem>indutny: no time wasted
02:37:17  <jbergstroem>just wish i could be of more help
02:37:30  <jbergstroem>indutny: things are looking up for macOs in general
02:37:34  <jbergstroem>(in terms of testing at least)
02:37:46  <indutny>that's really good
02:37:53  <indutny>and builds will be made on newer clang
02:38:00  <indutny>which is great too
02:38:02  <jbergstroem>hopefully we'll be in our new suit in a month or so
02:38:05  <jbergstroem>yeah!
02:38:11  <jbergstroem>have you played around with the thin lto stuff?
02:39:04  <indutny>jbergstroem: a bit
02:39:21  <indutny>seems to be a bit faster on OS X
02:39:31  <indutny>or was I testing just plain old lto
02:39:46  <indutny>https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/7408
02:39:48  <indutny>yeah
02:39:50  <indutny>it was -flto
02:39:59  <indutny>but thin sounds pretty fun too
02:40:02  <indutny>I've read about it
02:40:47  <jbergstroem>i tried linking some boost stuff on linux; was much faster
02:40:57  <jbergstroem>perfromance i couldn't really measure a difference in
02:41:04  <jbergstroem>but i think the main point was linker time spent anyway
02:41:09  <indutny>right
02:41:24  <indutny>it may not provide such huge benefits to node, though
02:41:34  <jbergstroem>not at all likely
02:41:38  <indutny>on mac it was like 10%
02:41:50  <indutny>and I suspect it is none on linux
02:42:04  <jbergstroem>even if it was its not worth the complexity
02:42:28  <indutny>got to run
02:42:29  <indutny>sorry
02:42:30  <jbergstroem>time spent on compiling node globally is negligible
02:42:33  <indutny>will see you in 1-2 hours
02:42:33  <jbergstroem>haha m2
02:42:42  <jbergstroem>i'm off; timezone overlfow
02:42:55  <jbergstroem>cheers
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05:10:37  <thealphanerd>hello from the future :P
05:15:35  <thealphanerd>jbergstroem still seeing BSD 11 failures for v4
05:15:35  <thealphanerd>:S
05:16:35  <indutny>thealphanerd: we are in the past
05:16:37  <indutny>thealphanerd: I'm afraid
05:16:49  <indutny>or no?
05:16:50  <indutny>ah
05:16:51  <indutny>Chile
05:16:56  <thealphanerd>I'm in singapore
05:17:01  <thealphanerd>It is Tuesday afternoon
05:17:04  <indutny>aaaaah
05:17:09  <indutny>thealphanerd: cheater :)
05:17:11  <thealphanerd>I'm time traveling on Sunday though
05:17:17  <thealphanerd>crossing the international date line
05:17:22  <thealphanerd>and leaving 2 hours after I arrive
05:17:25  <indutny>sounds like fun
05:17:28  <indutny>and jet lag
05:17:28  <indutny>:D
05:17:41  <thealphanerd>Im fighting through it with dim sum so far
05:18:12  <thealphanerd>I stayed up through the entire first first and slept on the second
05:18:13  <thealphanerd>I think if I can make it until midnight without a nap I'll bypass it
05:19:03  <indutny>heh
05:19:08  <indutny>yeah, sometimes it works
05:20:11  <thealphanerd>last time it worked for 2 days
05:20:12  <thealphanerd>then I didn't sleep one day
05:20:13  <thealphanerd>and then I was a fucking mess
05:20:14  <thealphanerd>sorry for the curse
06:01:58  <indutny>thealphanerd: that's fine
06:02:06  <indutny>there are no non-obscene words to describe this state :D
06:02:15  <thealphanerd>:D
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09:45:45  <thealphanerd>jbergstroem failures for osx package machine :(
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11:54:18  <jbergstroem>thealphanerd: hm
11:54:23  <jbergstroem>thealphanerd: i swear i saw a skip on 11
11:54:27  <jbergstroem>let me check
11:54:55  <jbergstroem>you're right. i wonder what changed
11:58:28  <jbergstroem>ah
12:14:58  <jbergstroem>thealphanerd: is it ok if it returns unstable? https://ci.nodejs.org/job/node-test-commit-freebsd/5371/
12:15:15  <jbergstroem>i can't turn the warn from tap stuff (no files found) into "ok"
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13:47:21  <thealphanerd>womp
13:47:34  <thealphanerd>could you echo a tap file that is ok?
13:47:44  <thealphanerd>unstable is reasonable too
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14:38:56  <jbergstroem>thealphanerd: what do you mean with echoing a tap file?
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15:34:24  <mattloring>What is the process for getting access to the smartos jenkins bots? I'm trying to debug the smartos-only errors on https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/9304 and don't have access to a smartos machine
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17:09:11  <Trott>mattloring: https://github.com/nodejs/build/blob/master/doc/process/special_access_to_build_resources.md#temporary-access I guess. /cc jbergstroem rvagg
18:19:08  <jbergstroem>that's the one
18:19:17  <jbergstroem>mattloring: perhaps open an issue in our repo and i can endorse
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18:31:38  <joaocgreis>Hi! Are we having a meeting today?
19:00:52  <mhdawson>I don't see a meeting invite, but I do see it in my calendar
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19:05:07  <jbergstroem>hm
19:05:15  <jbergstroem>i have one scheduled in a week from now; must
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19:05:19  <jbergstroem>must've messed it up
19:06:37  <joaocgreis>no problem doing it next week for me
19:07:22  <jbergstroem>does anyone have anything thats being held up?
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19:09:58  <jbergstroem>michael points out that the conference is next week
19:10:06  <jbergstroem>so it'd probs be pretty rough to get a meeting together
19:10:18  <jbergstroem>if they find an hour perhaps on-site, otherwise in two weeks from now?
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19:30:37  <joaocgreis>either way works for me. I won't be at the conference but no problem if you want to have it there in person, I'll join on hangouts if possible
19:32:34  <jbergstroem>joaocgreis: i won't make it either
19:32:44  <jbergstroem>thealphanerd: just chased down patches for fbsd11/4.x. worth a backport/or?
19:32:49  <jbergstroem>backport/pr?
19:39:02  <jbergstroem>thealphanerd: no failures
19:39:04  <jbergstroem>(test)
19:42:56  <jbergstroem>thealphanerd: https://gist.github.com/jbergstroem/5654c1df0153d39eb56b629fdfdf7f1d
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20:58:46  <wyatt>are we still having a meeting today?
21:27:43  <jbergstroem>wyatt: no; probably not next week either. probably in two weeks. I'll create an issue
21:28:06  <wyatt>sounds good
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22:38:19  <thealphanerd>jbergstroem yes!
23:03:49  <jbergstroem>thealphanerd: ok
23:34:29  <thealphanerd>jbergstroem I'm still seeing red on ci-release for osx-pkg
23:34:32  <thealphanerd>I think fisrock is having the same issue for the 7.2 release
23:35:14  <jbergstroem>thealphanerd: i think rod disabled the bot
23:35:29  <jbergstroem>the worker that was failing
23:36:26  <thealphanerd>ah ok
23:36:27  <thealphanerd>cool
23:36:29  <thealphanerd>👍🏽
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