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13:58:27  <nahamu>My understanding of why Manta keeps the zones up and running is to save the time needed to boot them.
13:58:49  <nahamu>For the joyent branded zones, this makes a lot of sense to me, particularly in their current state.
13:59:37  <nahamu>It would be nice to have LX branded zones in Manta, but that leads to the obvious questions: Which distro's binaries should be in there? Which kernel version should they advertise?
13:59:53  <nahamu>I had a thought last night as I was getting ready for bed:
14:00:31  <nahamu>Unlike booting a zone where you need lots of standard services running, in theory Manta zones need very little running in them.
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14:01:33  <nahamu>What if you could boot an LX branded zone without any distro's tree of files in it, and it sat their waiting for a particular file to appear. (init at some particular path)
14:01:40  <nahamu>s/their/there
14:02:31  <nahamu>To utilize the zone, you clone the appropriate distro tree of files into place and the zone does whatever minimal additional "booting" is needed for either a regular job or an mlogin job to get going.
14:04:35  <nahamu>so Manta could keep a bunch of minimalist LX branded zones running, then when a user specifies an LX based image to use, the filesystem gets cloned into place with ZFS, and the user files get mounted in with hyperlofs, and something kicks off the appropriate process.
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14:05:58  <nahamu>I think this is easier with the LX brand than the joyent brand because we use native tools to set up networking before the Linux binaries start running.
14:06:22  <nahamu>In theory a modified joyent brand tuned for Manta could do something similar for native code as well.
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17:32:01  <bahamat>MANTA-2975
17:32:02  <jinni>https://smartos.org/bugview/MANTA-2975
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