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19:48:09  <bahamas1010>i made a function in my bashrc called `mbillable` that shows what i'm billed for https://github.com/bahamas10/dotfiles/blob/master/bashrc#L173
19:48:20  <bahamas1010>$ mbillable
19:48:23  <bahamas1010>bahamas10 => using 90 MB (1 GB billable)
19:48:25  <bahamas1010>as you can see i need more data ;)
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19:57:34  <nicholaswyoung>Can anyone report on the status of ruby-manta? It doesn't look like the repo has been updated in 4 months, and I have a few questions about it.
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19:59:19  <mcavage>nicholaswyoung: "marsell" here in IRC is the authority on it.
19:59:46  <mcavage>he's in Australia though, so unclear exactly when he's active. I'll point him at you when he's alive ;)
20:01:00  <nicholaswyoung>mcavage: Thanks. I'm encountering a few snags with my node.js app (not tied to Manta, your help was greatly appreciated!), and I'm considering taking some existing Ruby code and fleshing it out. But the large upload/download warnings in the ruby-manta Readme are kinda scary.
20:01:42  <nicholaswyoung>I know that gems like Fog and the AWS SDK for Ruby do streaming upload/download, and that could be a very useful feature for ruby-manta.
20:01:47  <mcavage>I'm not a ruby person at all, but I believe that's because of the great divide between event machine (or whatever it's called) and not, such that with the sdk as-is you have to buffer all things in memory.
20:02:34  <nicholaswyoung>Yep. That's how the code looks right now. Ruby does have a IO class that can be used for streams, though it's kinda clunky.
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20:04:00  <nicholaswyoung>You're totally right on the "great divide" between EventMachine and the rest of the Ruby world though. It's truly a canyon of epic size.
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20:40:19  <marsell>nicholaswyoung: hullo.
20:40:44  <nicholaswyoung>Howdy. mcavage says you're the expert on Ruby-Manta.
20:41:05  <marsell>Hopefully. :)
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20:41:44  <nicholaswyoung>A few questions: the lib looks kinda barebones at this point, and it hasn't been touched in 4 months. Any plans to improve it, like maybe adding streaming support like Fog and the AWS-SDK for Ruby do?
20:42:26  <nicholaswyoung>That said, I'm only tossing around 100mb files tops, so it might be safe for me to go ahead and use it in production if you think it can reliably work.
20:43:29  <marsell>ruby-manta was meant to be barebones -- that makes it easier to understand.
20:43:33  <marsell>But I might make a streaming version one day. Hard to say.
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20:44:13  <marsell>As you seem aware, if you have the memory in your VM for that, then uploading 100mb should be fine.
20:44:14  <nicholaswyoung>Would you be open to pull requests adding such support?
20:45:17  <nicholaswyoung>Yeah. What I'm unsure of is how many concurrent files I could upload. Because I think I would run out of memory as more uploads surge in.
20:46:01  <marsell>If it maintains API compatibility, and is simple as possible. If not, we probably should go the direction of having two libraries. They could be in the same repo, with some code sharing, if you're so inclined.
20:48:25  <nicholaswyoung>I don't think there would be a need to change the existing API. And streaming shouldn't be too difficult.
20:48:49  <nicholaswyoung>I'm on the fence with a half-completed Node.js implementation and half-completed Ruby sketch, and trying to decide which way to go.
20:49:34  <nicholaswyoung>Though I think it's safe to say that the manta library for Node is the only first-class citizen among API libraries, correct?
20:50:33  <marsell>ruby-manta is supported too, but I suspect that node-manta will be the more frictionless approach.
20:52:58  <nicholaswyoung>Gotcha. Well then, that's the kick I needed. I'll lay off the dreams of writing this system in Ruby, and go forth with Node. It sounds like I'll be doing much less work in the long run.
20:54:44  <marsell>I think that node is simply a better choice overall when shuttling around a lot of network traffic.
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